Topic: Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread - page 20. (Read 15944 times)

Ajax are in a rebuilding phase and yea even if they’ve narrow victories, these victories are very much appreciated as ot helps them clim up the log. Yes they are out of the Cup which could have also helped them secure Europa League spot but I think this will give them more room to focus on the conference league and probably the domestic league so as to get up the ladder. I'm pretty sure they'll qualify for the UCL next season.

 It’s strange why most clubs don’t care about cup matches because the funds alone from these cups can help the club recruit more players and also the gifts of qualification to European competitions is one that every clubs wants. But in this Ajax case I think right now the team is rebuilding and wouldn’t be medical this much competition hence the need to get eliminated and set their focus right.

It was truly a very surprising result. It wasn't even the final match in the domestic cup. USV Hercules really isn't a team I've ever heard of. I even had difficulty finding their information on the internet. I think this is the most surprising defeat I've had at the start of this year or this season in football. I watched several matches with results that were completely unpredictable but not as surprising as Ajax's defeat to a third division team in their league.

USV Hercules are an amateur league team you know so it was really unbelievable that Ajax lost to them.   

I understand that Ajax are having a tough season and trying to recover by getting wins in the Eredivisie for a while. However this still can't be an excuse for a big team of Netherlands like Ajax to be eliminated by an amateur league team. Just how can you be this bad? It is a really embarrassing loss and they can't explain this to their fans of course. I can't even follow Ajax's coach changes anymore. I thought there was another person but I realized that John van 't Schip was in charge.

To be honest, I was surprised by Ajax's defeat. At first I thought because it was a local cup so Ajax only fielded second tier players to play. And they will prepare their main players for the league. But after I saw the match report it turned out that Ajax fielded most of their main squad. This is a worry in my mind about Ajax's chances of gaining a place in the Champions League next season. If Ajax appears inconsistent like this, it will certainly be difficult to get second place at the end of the season

Ajax were eliminated from the cup match and yes they might have played so bad but I think it was then they were having a poor form. Now their main focus is on getting an European spot next season and I think it’s pretty cool they were eliminated. I don’t think the players don’t care; I feel they were playing bad and as a result had a bad result but their media outlets would make it look as if the players aren’t interested, because why won’t you be interested in additional money for the club when you win such cup??

 Now they’re at the conference cup and I believe they’ll fight to win that in order to avoid whatever maybe at the end of the tournament the Eredivise league. They’ve to maintain top performance and be consistent in their winning streaks,  they have to continue with that form so as to qualify for the UCL next season.

This is really confusing because most of the teams want to win cups so it's domestic or other no matter right now Ajax is facing troubling time so if they are going to have win in Conference Cup this could be good for their future and teams confidence as well because this win will give them good booster and things will be good for the next season even currently nothing is predictable how they will play in this cup and what will be result, but they need to give their best with their run in Eredivisie is also good, and they can achieve some good results in coming days which will increase their performance and consistency which is surely going to help them for having better results in near the end of this season.

Its ok but i cant believe how the new Manchester United owners still wants him, yesterday game he show again the win against Aston Villa was pure luck and a trance of skills in some players like Garnacho.

I thin Ajax can press to get him again. But well seems like that is not possible.

But why would they not care about cup matches when we are talking about the most important domestic cup and at the same time we are talking about professional soccer players who have been dreaming about winning titles for their whole lives? I don't buy this story because I read that quite often that players would not care about winning the cup. I understand that in the Premier League there are several cups and some of them not as important as the FA Cup, but this one cup in the Netherlands is the most important cup there is. I don't understand why the players wouldn't care.

Most teams do not care about cup matches. I think Ajax is one of them. Ajax is normally a much higher quality team than Hercules, but they may have had to face this painful result because they did not care much in the Cup match. While they were eliminated from the cup, Hercules had already gone to celebrate a victory.

I think yes, ETH is trying to build his CV but he’s quite unfortunate that all these are happening right now. Yes, he’s achieved a trophy on his first season here in Manchester, but how he takes on this season is pretty bad. Yes, some bad decisions and most of all some players indiscipline is making him have a bad time. And if he doesn’t get things right here at Manchester I don’t think he’ll be considered a prolific coach, as this is one major club he’s coaching after coaching Ajax and winning the league quite a number of times.

 Ajax who did pretty bad when ETH left are now getting their foot especially afterwards starting the season very poorly; now they’re battling it out for an European spot and yes, the dream is alive amd could be a reality. It requires players dedication and some key signings to help boost this team. AZ Alkmaar won’t be able to maintain good form for a while and could even fall when football resumes.

Ajax which is best in Eredivisie and have good and solid squad as well having the worst time in early rounds of this season due to few changes which happen in last year, but now they are already on development and having good recovery while they are doing good then result is matters not how coming even they are winning by small margin it's not problem but good thing now they are winning and having good chance of fight back as well after break most chances we will have them on level which is surely they deserve and also capable of having things for this at the top we have no chance with PSV and Feyenoord are doing amazing stuff but AZ Alkmaar and Twente are medicore teams which can give Ajax place for the jumping.

Both are losing points consistently and after break we will have first game between these two which will cut the difference of points for the Ajax and things will be surely on better level for the Ajax who is going to visit G A Eagles after the break for their first game.

He won't be leaving Manchester United anytime soon, yesterday I saw this news:


source: https://www.instagram.com/p/C1cDLs8ovRk/

In my opinion he is looking at Manchester United as a great challenge that if he manages to overcome and obtain good results, then this would make him greatly increase his CV as a coach, until today the relevant team he coached was Ajax who He won the Eredivisie many times, at Bayern he was coach of the B team, that doesn't count much. while now he has a great chance to shine in a big team, unfortunately he is making some very bad decisions, he sent Ronaldo and De Gea away and went to hire goalkeepers who make mistakes that De Gea didn't make, he went to put a striker who played many games in the premier league and didn't score a goal. These errors have not been corrected on his part. We'll see when the transfer market opens if he will make good hires this time

about ajax, I think that currently they are doing well, they have no chance of becoming champions this season, but they still have a chance, even if it is a very small chance of finishing in position 3 or 4, I highly doubt that managed to finish in position number 2, but it is still not impossible, all they need to do is get good players on the market, if they don't sign good players then they risk finishing in position 5 and next season they will also be in a terrible position , they won't win anything next season if they don't sign now

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In my opinion, the most interesting game in the next round will be Twente's game against AZ, both teams are in a good position in the table and with some comfort, but there is only a difference of 1 point between both teams and both teams should be looking at the third position, if one of the teams wins that game, then they will be further away from the other, which would cause the other team to start playing under pressure. In my opinion, twente will come into this game as favorites to win, they are better than AZ in my opinion, but AZ should not be underestimated, they could get a draw in this game, both teams only managed to get 2 wins in the last 5 games. It will be interesting to see what the outcome of this game will be.

Yes except for the games against Heerenveen and Vitesse Arnheim, all of the games were won by narrow means indeed. That is quite uncommon for Ajax Amsterdam as they are known for beating their opponents big time in the Eredivisie. But I think they appreciate every positive result regardless of whether it was close or not. But what I did not expect was the loss in the KNVB Cup against USVB Hercules. They lost a backdoor to get into the Europa League if they can't make it through their domestic league.

Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard.

 Every team won't want to loose their kept men and every player that's be free are the ones that weren't so solid for the team. It's quite expensive to get for a team a high valued player no doubt and Ajax management may not likely be up to the task and it's going to be unsafe to settle for a less standard player. Their winning consistency is good but they just have to find a way to stop the wins from occuring through a narrow means. The coach is good at what he does but he has to improve himself and the team too, once all the necessary characteristics needed are in place, then it'll be an easy ride for Ajax.

I also agree with what you said. The success of the coach is also determined by the style of play that suits the club being coached. I mean I believe Ten Hag certainly has the style of play he wants and he was a successful coach at Ajax. This could indicate that perhaps Manchester United players have not been able to maximize the style of play that Ten Hag wants. If that is the case then the purchase of some new players would certainly be one of the quickest answers to this problem.

It's very possible that retuning to his former team will do him more good than when he stays in Manchester united where the results keep going from bad to worse and it's looking everyday like he isn't fit at all for the job, it could be very possible at Manchester united there are factors which are not aiding his ability to work optimally.

But in his first year in Manchester united he did turned out well from the results he had and it did made people stayed optimistic about the future of Manchester united with him but with time it appear that the environment was no longer in his favourite Nas the players were not getting comfortable with his style which now resulted to series of internal crisis, obviously the players no longer got comfortable with his tactics and style, but back then at Ajax's it seems these were the same thing he did and achieved good results so I think he was understood better at Ajax's than did in Manchester united, these are contributing factors to the success of a coach.

For Erik ten Hag this was a step for growth, returning would mean admitting defeat. I see that every time after defeats he continues to believe that he can achieve good results with Manchester United, he is ready to work, but faith alone is not always enough. A draw with Liverpool and a victory over Aston Villa is a good result, so maybe there is hope, but his goal - the Champions League zone is still far away.

I don't know if Ajax has struggled in the relegation zone. Maybe I was lucky to be able to see Ajax when their performance was good and began to improve their ranking little by little. Eredivise has entered the holiday period so we can wait for Ajax's performance after the holidays end. To be honest I saw Ajax performing badly in the last few matches a few weeks ago but I never paid attention to the position in the standings at that time and saw Ajax who was in the relegation zone,

Ajax Amsterdam went through hell at the beginning of the season. They got caught up in this negative cycle that with every loss they lost self-confidence and started doubting themselves like barely ever before. It was looking so bad for them that in the meantime I thought they could end up fighting the relegation zone if they don't turn things around quickly. But in the end they are a top class team and we could see it when they started their winning streak.

Difference occurred in every season and we should expect blame Ajax for starting the season in this critical shape. There's big difference for managers to handle mediocre team and elite clubs, I've attracted to football and I easily talk about the club's that will win marches. If Manchester United board sacks Erik Ten Hag, it means they're desperate, but they should also focused on other clubs that are doing poorly and they have their coach at their side. Erik Ten Hag was doing exceptionally brilliant when he was the manager for Ajax but a lot of things changed when the analysis carried out doesn't work.