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December 21, 2023, 03:53:45 PM
I think we don't have topic about KNVB cup, so will post here. Huge upset happened today. Ajax got kicked out by 4th division (!!!) club USV Hercules after loss 3:2. I think it's not even professional club. Didn't saw what happened there, Ajax made comeback from 2:0 to 2:2, but Hercules somehow scored 3th goal on additional time.
Other interesting result is that AZ won vs Hardenberg from 3rd division only after extra time.
While best game of round between PSV and Twente got postponed because of waterlogged pitch.
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December 21, 2023, 03:40:38 PM
PSV's form currently in the eredivisie is on another level as they are So good this season that they not only occupying the top position on the table but they are also giving a very large point difference to the second position and others who are Also behind them and hoping to probably make it to the top of the table before the season ends.

Their performance in the UCL isn't that bad but then I think because the competition back here in the eredivisie isn't that high enough it has almost not affected their performance in the UCL, they did well in the UCL and were able to get pass the group stage to the round of sixteen where they currently are looking very promising but then their first opponent is Dortmund which isn't a weak team either. Ajax's current improvement is really a good one because they have some level of consistency along side with their improvement.
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December 21, 2023, 03:18:02 PM

Ajax has returned to consistency after being slumped in the degradation zone and has now managed to approach the top four of the standings, and is targeting the Europa League qualification zone. The difference of 8 points still makes sense to reduce, considering that there are still a lot of matches left in the future. The challenges ahead are clearly tougher, therefore they need to add troops to avoid a decline in performance again, the January transfer window could be a solution to maintain consistency.

Now Ajax can shift its focus completely to domestic competition, after being eliminated early in the Europa League and only being able to finish in third place in the standings. The only way to appear again next season is to finish in the top four, even though you have to go through the qualifying route. It's quite tough for Ajax, but what's more important now is that they managed to be consistent and survive the degradation zone.
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard. Every team won't want to loose their kept men and every player that's be free are the ones that weren't so solid for the team.

 It's quite expensive to get for a team a high valued player no doubt and Ajax management may not likely be up to the task and it's going to be unsafe to settle for a less standard player.Their winning consistency is good but they just have to find a way to stop the wins from occuring through a narrow means. The coach is good at what he does but he has to improve himself and the team too, once all the necessary characteristics needed are in place, then it'll be an easy ride for Ajax.
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December 21, 2023, 04:08:35 AM
Eredivisie is competitive YES, but always have the problem of being monopolized by one or two teams every year, and that make not so fun to watch the battle for title, like now, PSV is already the champion only a miracle or a big missfortune can change that.
Anyways the Netherlands teams always show a good level on europe.

I also think that way. The Eredivision would be boring if the champions were the same club. This is the same as Ligue 1. But I think the battle for places 2 to 5 is still fun to watch. I love it when teams like Twente, Feyenoord and Ajax compete for a place in the Champions League. They are very competitive. But as you said, only a miracle can make PSV fail to win the title this season. Ajax has performed well in the last few matches but it looks like they will not get second place this season because I think Feyenoord is playing quite well this season.
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December 20, 2023, 02:21:58 PM
Eredivisie is competitive YES, but always have the problem of being monopolized by one or two teams every year, and that make not so fun to watch the battle for title, like now, PSV is already the champion only a miracle or a big missfortune can change that.

Anyways the Netherlands teams always show a good level on europe.
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December 20, 2023, 12:10:46 PM
They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too.The next half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too

Ajax has performed quite well in the last 5 matches. They were able to achieve 4 wins and one draw. This is a very good result after their poor performance some time ago. If they continue to be consistent in maintaining this kind of performance, I am sure they will be able to finish even in second place at the end of the season.

PSV has been too extraordinary this season. I think they are the only club in Europe's top big league that has wiped out all the wins without drawing or losing. No one doubts they will lift the Eredivise trophy this season.
The Eredivise is competitive no doubt and consistency works very much for the teams there. It's winter season and so the teams ought to brace up to gain enough grounds ahead of post winter break. PSV and Ajax are doing explicitly well in the league as they've been able to keep up with game victories too. For Alkmaar, they're lagging behind and it's really taking toll on them and their points on the league table too. They've just got to find a balance and get back to their pace. Their league isn't even as competitive as other European leagues as there are just a few teams that are tough in their play.

 They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too.The next half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too.
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December 20, 2023, 11:55:50 AM
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Ajax has performed quite well in the last 5 matches. They were able to achieve 4 wins and one draw. This is a very good result after their poor performance some time ago. If they continue to be consistent in maintaining this kind of performance, I am sure they will be able to finish even in second place at the end of the season.

PSV has been too extraordinary this season. I think they are the only club in Europe's top big league that has wiped out all the wins without drawing or losing. No one doubts they will lift the Eredivise trophy this season.
Ajax has returned to consistency after being slumped in the degradation zone and has now managed to approach the top four of the standings, and is targeting the Europa League qualification zone. The difference of 8 points still makes sense to reduce, considering that there are still a lot of matches left in the future. The challenges ahead are clearly tougher, therefore they need to add troops to avoid a decline in performance again, the January transfer window could be a solution to maintain consistency.

Now Ajax can shift its focus completely to domestic competition, after being eliminated early in the Europa League and only being able to finish in third place in the standings. The only way to appear again next season is to finish in the top four, even though you have to go through the qualifying route. It's quite tough for Ajax, but what's more important now is that they managed to be consistent and survive the degradation zone.
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December 20, 2023, 09:53:22 AM
Ajax has performed quite well in the last 5 matches. They were able to achieve 4 wins and one draw. This is a very good result after their poor performance some time ago. If they continue to be consistent in maintaining this kind of performance, I am sure they will be able to finish even in second place at the end of the season.

PSV has been too extraordinary this season. I think they are the only club in Europe's top big league that has wiped out all the wins without drawing or losing. No one doubts they will lift the Eredivise trophy this season.

Even if Ajax can maintain their performance it will be very difficult to reach third place, Feyenoord are also playing very consistently and will probably finish second, PSV have played an outstanding half of the season so far and will probably not lose many more games after the break.

To fight for third and fourth place, Ajax needs to be consistent in maintaining their best form of play which has begun to be shown.

I think Ajax can achieve this with the third place, but more will not be possible this season, PSV and Feyenoord are too consistent and Ajax is not stable enough.
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December 20, 2023, 12:15:09 AM
PSV are still unblemished going into the Christmas break, Ajax have also improved a little and have the best result in their last 5 games behind PSV, but are still 8 points behind AZ, Ajax need to continue their current form into next year's spring, then they could still be in contention for third or fourth place.
Having not been defeated since the start of the season until the last match, a convincing win over AZ Alkmaar means that PSV Eindhoven will beat Feyenoord like last season with a point difference of up to 10 points.
Ajax has started to improve, but is still not as stable as it was under Erik ten Hag's coaching.
To fight for third and fourth place, Ajax needs to be consistent in maintaining their best form of play which has begun to be shown.
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December 19, 2023, 10:44:25 PM
They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too.The next half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too

Ajax has performed quite well in the last 5 matches. They were able to achieve 4 wins and one draw. This is a very good result after their poor performance some time ago. If they continue to be consistent in maintaining this kind of performance, I am sure they will be able to finish even in second place at the end of the season.

PSV has been too extraordinary this season. I think they are the only club in Europe's top big league that has wiped out all the wins without drawing or losing. No one doubts they will lift the Eredivise trophy this season.
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December 19, 2023, 01:59:18 PM
Yesterday was really a feast of football.We saw a lot of goals in the matches and frankly they were all exciting.Twente failed to defeat Rotterdam who were down to 10 men. In the 45th minute Rotterdam, who were down to 10 men, managed to hold on to the match with goals from penalties in the second half.Twente could have even won the match if they hadn't managed to score in the last minute.
Feyenoord managed to beat their opponent Heracles with 4 goals away from home.We cannot say that the opponent was not very effective.Despite being away, Feyenoord dominated the match and won a comfortable victory.
Ajax started to recover slowly.Ajax hosted PEC Zwolle at home.Ajax managed to go 2-0 ahead with Brobbey's goals and left the match with a draw.They had a chance to win the match but they could not take advantage of it.It would have been better for them if they had won this match.Losing points in these matches is a bad result for them if they want to finish in the top 3.
In the most important match of the day, PSV, the favorite candidate of the championship, almost showered AZ Alkmaar with goals.PSV, who did not even give the opponent the opportunity to play, managed to win the match with a very beautiful football.PSV, who increased the difference to 3 in 16 minutes, did not give the opponent any opportunity.We can easily say that AZ Alkmaar played as if they were playing away throughout the match.
The Eredivise is competitive no doubt and consistency works very much for the teams there. It's winter season and so the teams ought to brace up to gain enough grounds ahead of post winter break. PSV and Ajax are doing explicitly well in the league as they've been able to keep up with game victories too. For Alkmaar, they're lagging behind and it's really taking toll on them and their points on the league table too. They've just got to find a balance and get back to their pace. Their league isn't even as competitive as other European leagues as there are just a few teams that are tough in their play.

 They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too.The next half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too
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December 18, 2023, 02:36:08 PM
Yesterday was really a feast of football.We saw a lot of goals in the matches and frankly they were all exciting.Twente failed to defeat Rotterdam who were down to 10 men. In the 45th minute Rotterdam, who were down to 10 men, managed to hold on to the match with goals from penalties in the second half.Twente could have even won the match if they hadn't managed to score in the last minute.
Feyenoord managed to beat their opponent Heracles with 4 goals away from home.We cannot say that the opponent was not very effective.Despite being away, Feyenoord dominated the match and won a comfortable victory.
Ajax started to recover slowly.Ajax hosted PEC Zwolle at home.Ajax managed to go 2-0 ahead with Brobbey's goals and left the match with a draw.They had a chance to win the match but they could not take advantage of it.It would have been better for them if they had won this match.Losing points in these matches is a bad result for them if they want to finish in the top 3.
In the most important match of the day, PSV, the favorite candidate of the championship, almost showered AZ Alkmaar with goals.PSV, who did not even give the opponent the opportunity to play, managed to win the match with a very beautiful football.PSV, who increased the difference to 3 in 16 minutes, did not give the opponent any opportunity.We can easily say that AZ Alkmaar played as if they were playing away throughout the match.
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December 18, 2023, 11:33:57 AM
Yeah, PSV machinery seems unstopable right now for the Eredivisie teams, yesterday they destroy easily the 4 best team in the league with a contudent 4-0 AZ doesnt stand a chance against them.

I hope they can still do this amazing season and also i hope they can get a good result in Champions League, not easy task
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December 18, 2023, 10:28:45 AM
PSV are still unblemished going into the Christmas break, Ajax have also improved a little and have the best result in their last 5 games behind PSV, but are still 8 points behind AZ, Ajax need to continue their current form into next year's spring, then they could still be in contention for third or fourth place.
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December 18, 2023, 09:28:22 AM
Would you say that Alkmaar can compete with PSV this season? I think no one can beat PSV this season and almost 100% they will win the Eredivise league this season. Maybe now we can talk about places 2, 3 and 4. Ajax's draw in the last match means they are now 8 points behind Alkmaar in fourth place. One place in the Champions League has definitely belonged to PSV. We just have to talk about 1 more place that will be contested by Feyenoord, Twente and AZ Alkmaar.
I am not following Eredivisie so closely and I am impressed with PSV Eindhoven performance. They didn't miss any points after 16 rounds, they received as low as 6 goals and scored 56! Their last game was against AZ Alkmaar, which is among the top teams, yet they destroyed them with 4 goals to nothing!
It is rare to see such good record even in lower leagues with a classically dominant team. The only negative point is that their performance didn't follow in UEFA Champions League although they were able to qualify second.
With 10 points difference from Feyenoord and way more from the other teams and since almost half of the season was played, I am pretty sure they will win the league before many rounds. What left to know is which team will join them in UEFA Champions League next season, and whether Ajax Amsterdam will pick a European competition spot or not.
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December 18, 2023, 09:18:41 AM
What a bad performance yesterday from Az Alkmark in european competitions, this only makes a bad image of the league in europe, and losing some important points in the anual ranking of UEFA. For luck PSV is doing great, and Ajax yesterday at least secure a spot in Conference.
AZ players already came to this game without motivation, even if they won, they wouldn't be able to stay at the top and with the goal they conceded and then got a red card, everything got worse for them, but it's very strange to see that in this group they finished in third place, and in my opinion the only strong team in that group was Aston Villa, the rest of the other teams were weak, which in their leagues are not in the top position and are not big leagues and even so AZ did very poorly in this group. I agree with you, they are giving a bad image of Eredivisie teams in European competitions. Fortunately, PSV is managing to do well in the Eredivisie and in European competitions, they managed to move to another stage in the European Champions League, which puts more money in PSV's wallet.
Even I am feeling completely different from you but still I am counting this game as one of the interesting in this round because AZ Alkmaar is having bad time they lost their last game in Conference League and their performance in this league is also not good in last few matches as they lost 8 points and now having chance to drop on fourth spot with Twente is also going to visit Sparta Rotterdam which is also one of the interesting matches in this round with after this round we will have 25 days winter break, so mostly teams will try to keep things on high note before this break so most chances PSV will win and go on break with undefeated in this season's first half.

There is no doubt things will be not easy for the both teams but currently PSV is surely having good depth into their team and their players are doing impressive job which giving them win after win and most chances they could be claim title before end of this season due to big difference of points due to the worst time of Ajax which was struggling and now trying to fight back for the top flight.

the game ended with PSV's victory, I must say that I already expected PSV to win this game, I had no doubt about that, but I must say that I was very surprised by the ease with which PSV scored 4 goals and beat the game, this just shows how PSV has no opponent capable of beating them this season, with this victory the difference in points between PSV and Feyenorrd remains 10 points, this is because Feyenoord also won in a game against Heracla, it's funny that Feyenoord Feyenoord's game against Heracles ended with 4 goals scored by Feyenoord and without conceding a goal, there is no doubt that the same thing is happening as last season, just with reversed roles

Last season Feyenoord was the top team and PSV the second team, this season the roles are reversed. PSV is at the top while Feyenoord is in second place. Speaking of PSV, I saw the draw for the European Champions League, they will play against Dortmund, in my opinion they are an accessible opponent for PSV, I think it will be a good chance for PSV to beat Dortmund and move on to another stage, of course. As the game will be in February next year, there is still a lot to be done until then and Dortmund can improve a lot to the point where they can beat PSV with some ease. Anyway, PSV's next games in the league are games against weak teams, so I see them winning all the games that are coming
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December 18, 2023, 05:59:51 AM
What an impressive record by PSV so far! Winning all of their 16 matches in the Eredivisie is a really work that deserves to be appreciated very much. They are playing really differently this season and we see that in the Champions League also. They have qualified for last 16 phase you know and their group wasn't an easy one for them on paper.

Especially thanks to Sevilla's horrible performance PSV were more comfortable. They got a point from Arsenal too. The fans and board both must be really happy with this performance level this season.  Smiley

When it comes to Ajax their progress after that horrible start is impressive. But their job is still going to be difficult in climbing to top 3.  Sad
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December 18, 2023, 04:52:45 AM
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Also expected Ajax to win. When they equalized and took the lead, I thought they would scored more, but again I was wrong. Zwolle scored again to make it 2-2.

+1
expected a win from Ajax, but they managed only to get a draw
nevertheless, Ajax is playing good, especially compared to what they were playing at season start

PSV won easily against AZ, and they are challenging a season with all wins, if they continue this way
moreover, they are killing everyone with 3-4 goals, there is no 1:0 wins for them
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December 18, 2023, 04:51:28 AM
I agree, Ajax is one of the best in Eredivisie and also in Europe as well now they are coming out of their bad time and their winning streak is getting long which is clearly indicating now things can take positive turn, and they will be at their best in next half of this season which will give them spot into top four with PSV and Feyenoord both are impressive and most chances they will keep momentum but AZ Alkmaar or Twente can give space.

I also think if they continue to keep winning after winning then they will have a lot of potential to get second place at the end of the season. Among the teams in the Eredivise, Ajax is indeed one of the best. For this season, no one will doubt PSV's extraordinary performance with 15 wins without ever drawing or even losing. For Feyenoord, Az Alkmaar or Twente they are also very strong this season but if Ajax finds their form again then I think Ajax is stronger than these 3 teams.
Ajax is really proving their selves to be a team that is ready and can possibly make it back to the top of the top four again this season, their performance lately is really brilliant a d they just keep winning and climbing back to the top of the table, a performance most persons didn't expect to see from them this season because they have already performed so poorly earlier.

I was even of the opinion that Ajax will basically be avoiding relegation and not think of getting to top four but with their recent performance and consistency they can dare to get to the top of the table. PSV and feyanoord are two tough teams this season in the eredivisie who wouldn't give ajax that opportunity to be at the top of the table but currently ajax is at the fifth position on the table making it very possible to get to the top with little to almost no stress.PSV is currently having so much dominance this season , in their last five games they won all which is the highest on the table currently.
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December 18, 2023, 02:50:37 AM
Alkmaar has shown a little below-average performance in the last five matches in my opinion. Of course, almost all the people expected better performance from them. And I don't think they will actually be able to go anywhere near the first position. Just for context, and they are in the 4th position and the point difference between them and the team in the first position of the table is 12. So yes things are looking tough for them and at the same time PSV looks like running away with things.

Would you say that Alkmaar can compete with PSV this season? I think no one can beat PSV this season and almost 100% they will win the Eredivise league this season. Maybe now we can talk about places 2, 3 and 4. Ajax's draw in the last match means they are now 8 points behind Alkmaar in fourth place. One place in the Champions League has definitely belonged to PSV. We just have to talk about 1 more place that will be contested by Feyenoord, Twente and AZ Alkmaar.
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