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January 26, 2024, 05:38:18 PM

Yes I think this season is mostly done for Ajax Amsterdam as they are also eliminated from the KNVB Cup and even if I weren't to assert that miracles are not impossible, I think it is impossible for Ajax Amsterdam to catch up with PSV. But I think that PSV themselves are quite shocked after they gave away their first points in the Eredivisie and right after that game got eliminated from the KNVB Cup themselves. This is certainly bad for any plans they had.

I don't know what Ajax Amsterdam is aiming for, but the biggest of all possible goals would be to catch up with Feyenoord. Ajax has one more game to play against them in the Eredivisie and apart from that can only hope for Feyenoord to drop points.
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work.

 They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard. Every team won't want to loose their kept men and every player that's be free are the ones that weren't so solid for the team.

 It's quite expensive to get for a team a high valued player no doubt and Ajax management may not likely be up to the task and it's going to be unsafe to settle for a less standard player. Their inconsistency is unhealthy and they just have to find a way to stop the wins from occuring through a narrow means. The coach is good at what he does but he has to improve himself and the team too, once all the necessary characteristics needed are in place, then it'll be an easy ride for Ajax.
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January 26, 2024, 04:50:23 PM
I am also expecting changes but not too many as just Ajax will be entered into top three with remaining two teams Twente and AZ Alkmaar will be gone to fourth and fifth because other teams have not enough quality and potential to challenge teams which are ruling at top five spots for the years now in next round we will have Feyenoord vs Twente which is surely going to benefit the AZ Alkmaar and Ajax in case of drop points from any team.
Ajax having the worst time in first half of this season, and now it's good time for them to recover and go at their usual spot PSV is clearly having good difference of points which is not easy to recover for any team specially for the teams which are currently at the third and lower spots

I may be a little different from you. I agree and I think everyone also agrees that PSV is in first place and Feyenoord is in second place. Third place will belong to Twente or Ajax. And Alkmaar will get fifth position. But I put Twente in third place because they are quite strong and have a 6 point difference with Ajax. Even though Ajax has shown improved performance compared to the first half of the season, I think Twente is also a strong team to get third place.
Even we still have 16 rounds left in this season and many changes can happen because still injuries or any other problems can bring serious trouble for any team just because of this prediction is surely not easy but as currently things are going from these three teams Twente, AZ Alkmaar and Ajax all can go through for the third spot but for me still Ajax is strong because now in 19th round we have Feyenoord vs Twente which is surely going to be tough match and in case of lost they can go at fourth and difference could be only 3 points and in case of draw they can stay at the third spot but still difference will be cut which will create problems for them so we can't argue about this all now we have to wait for the few more weeks how things will be gone.
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January 26, 2024, 10:39:17 AM
I am also expecting changes but not too many as just Ajax will be entered into top three with remaining two teams Twente and AZ Alkmaar will be gone to fourth and fifth because other teams have not enough quality and potential to challenge teams which are ruling at top five spots for the years now in next round we will have Feyenoord vs Twente which is surely going to benefit the AZ Alkmaar and Ajax in case of drop points from any team.
Ajax having the worst time in first half of this season, and now it's good time for them to recover and go at their usual spot PSV is clearly having good difference of points which is not easy to recover for any team specially for the teams which are currently at the third and lower spots

I may be a little different from you. I agree and I think everyone also agrees that PSV is in first place and Feyenoord is in second place. Third place will belong to Twente or Ajax. And Alkmaar will get fifth position. But I put Twente in third place because they are quite strong and have a 6 point difference with Ajax. Even though Ajax has shown improved performance compared to the first half of the season, I think Twente is also a strong team to get third place.
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January 25, 2024, 05:36:08 PM

They've just got to find a balance and get back to their pace. Their league isn't even as competitive as other European leagues as there are just a few teams that are tough in their play. They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too. The second half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too.

In the second half of the season there are many surprises that occur. For the first time this season PSV achieved a draw in the League after finishing 17 matches with a win. Twente surprisingly lost to NEC. Alkmaar experienced a decline in form and Ajax have rediscovered their best form. There are many changes that will occur in the second half of the season. But I think first and second place will still belong to PSV and Feyenoord. Ajax will probably surpass Alkmaar and they will compete with Twente for third place.
I am also expecting changes but not too many as just Ajax will be entered into top three with remaining two teams Twente and AZ Alkmaar will be gone to fourth and fifth because other teams have not enough quality and potential to challenge teams which are ruling at top five spots for the years now in next round we will have Feyenoord vs Twente which is surely going to benefit the AZ Alkmaar and Ajax in case of drop points from any team.
Ajax having the worst time in first half of this season, and now it's good time for them to recover and go at their usual spot PSV is clearly having good difference of points which is not easy to recover for any team specially for the teams which are currently at the third and lower spots

Yes I think this season is mostly done for Ajax Amsterdam as they are also eliminated from the KNVB Cup and even if I weren't to assert that miracles are not impossible, I think it is impossible for Ajax Amsterdam to catch up with PSV. But I think that PSV themselves are quite shocked after they gave away their first points in the Eredivisie and right after that game got eliminated from the KNVB Cup themselves. This is certainly bad for any plans they had.

I don't know what Ajax Amsterdam is aiming for, but the biggest of all possible goals would be to catch up with Feyenoord. Ajax has one more game to play against them in the Eredivisie and apart from that can only hope for Feyenoord to drop points.
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January 25, 2024, 04:16:19 PM

They've just got to find a balance and get back to their pace. Their league isn't even as competitive as other European leagues as there are just a few teams that are tough in their play. They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too. The second half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too.

In the second half of the season there are many surprises that occur. For the first time this season PSV achieved a draw in the League after finishing 17 matches with a win. Twente surprisingly lost to NEC. Alkmaar experienced a decline in form and Ajax have rediscovered their best form. There are many changes that will occur in the second half of the season. But I think first and second place will still belong to PSV and Feyenoord. Ajax will probably surpass Alkmaar and they will compete with Twente for third place.
I am also expecting changes but not too many as just Ajax will be entered into top three with remaining two teams Twente and AZ Alkmaar will be gone to fourth and fifth because other teams have not enough quality and potential to challenge teams which are ruling at top five spots for the years now in next round we will have Feyenoord vs Twente which is surely going to benefit the AZ Alkmaar and Ajax in case of drop points from any team.
Ajax having the worst time in first half of this season, and now it's good time for them to recover and go at their usual spot PSV is clearly having good difference of points which is not easy to recover for any team specially for the teams which are currently at the third and lower spots
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January 25, 2024, 12:39:30 PM

They've just got to find a balance and get back to their pace. Their league isn't even as competitive as other European leagues as there are just a few teams that are tough in their play. They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too. The second half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too.

In the second half of the season there are many surprises that occur. For the first time this season PSV achieved a draw in the League after finishing 17 matches with a win. Twente surprisingly lost to NEC. Alkmaar experienced a decline in form and Ajax have rediscovered their best form. There are many changes that will occur in the second half of the season. But I think first and second place will still belong to PSV and Feyenoord. Ajax will probably surpass Alkmaar and they will compete with Twente for third place.
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January 23, 2024, 01:08:35 PM

PSV's dropping of point isn't appearing to be as a surprise but I didn't expect it with as small team as Utrecht because PSV played much better in that game, even had more chances much better than Utrecht did, Utrecht was lucky after which they safeguarded their goal. It's okay to drop point at a time because you can't stay 100% throughout the season, PSV still have a very good distance away from the team at the second position with about 10points difference so they are still very safe even with the draw gotten against Utrecht, Ajax's improvement is definitely getting them somewhere before the end of the season.

It's very much possible Ajax gets to the third position on the table because they have been able to maintain a good winning record of which if the still maintain they can get to the third position soon but getting to the first is almost impossible this season.
The Eredivise is competitive no doubt and consistency works very much for the teams there. It's winter season and so the teams ought to brace up to gain enough grounds ahead of post winter break. PSV and Ajax are doing explicitly well in the league as they've been able to keep up with game victories too.
For Alkmaar, they're lagging behind and it's really taking toll on them and their points on the league table too.

 They've just got to find a balance and get back to their pace. Their league isn't even as competitive as other European leagues as there are just a few teams that are tough in their play. They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too. The second half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too.
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January 23, 2024, 12:58:43 PM
PSV Eindhoven had to finally break their good run.By good run, I mean that they lost their winning streak.PSV drew 1-1 away to Utrecht in the league and thus suffered their first point loss in the league.We cannot say that they played better than their opponent because Utrecht played just as well to win.Utrecht stopped their opponent's winning streak and got an important 1 point for themselves and for the other teams in the championship race.
Ajax, on the other hand, have continued their recovery in recent weeks. They had a bad start to the season but they have managed to turn it around with wins in recent weeks. With this win, they have been undefeated for 10 weeks.
Dropping of points were expected so happen it's not surprising for anyone with still they are having good difference of points from second spotted team by 10 points and their consistency and quality is impressive which will keep them at the top and title is surely going to be belonged them in this season, but now we have another interesting talk like Ajax can break into top three which is possible because they are doing impressive performance in last few games and now their difference of points from Feyenoord is also 11 points and from Twente is just 6 points which is currently at the third spot and losing points consistently which is going to be helpful for the Ajax with AZ Alkmaar is also badly struggling which is going to be helpful for the Ajax and most chances we will have them at the third spot and others have to go for the fourth and fifth spots.
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January 23, 2024, 11:00:05 AM
How far it seems that magical Ajax who put nearby to a miracle in Champions League, if that Lucas Moura goal never came they can be played that final.

We are gonna see again some Netherland team making something like that again in the short term? I dont think so, this PSV is really good but not that good.
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January 23, 2024, 09:01:27 AM
This must be their source as I have found some information on ESPN: http://www.espn.com/soccer/report/_/gameId/675480
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Yes, Ajax really had a great run in the 2021/2022 season. However their biggest win streak was only 7 matchesSmiley

Thanks, but it doesn't look like it or I haven't found the sorted function yet.

Anyway, Ajax had their best season in 2020/21 (I think) with a total of 88 points and 102 goals, that season was impressive. But PSV also had 88 points in 2014/15, have they ever had more points?

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January 23, 2024, 04:32:01 AM
PSV dropped points for the first time this season with the draw. Ajax are now slowly getting back into form and have caught up with AZ with another win, if Twente and AZ continue to drop points I don't think it's impossible that Ajax could still finish third after this bad start to the season, would have been unthinkable a few games ago.

Which page did you look at? Two years ago Ajax also had an exceptional season.

This must be their source as I have found some information on ESPN: http://www.espn.com/soccer/report/_/gameId/675480

The record of 17 straight wins also belonged to PSV in 1988. PSV were about to improve this record by reaching 18 wins this time but Utrecht didn't let them. It must be a little sad for the team to miss such record by inches but there is no problem for them anyway. Because Feyenoord are like 10 points behind.  Grin

Yes, Ajax really had a great run in the 2021/2022 season. However their biggest win streak was only 7 matchesSmiley
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January 23, 2024, 04:21:38 AM
I did a quick search and found this. Ok this means PSV Eindhoven can break the record with the next game if they win it. A draw would not break the record if we take the goal difference into account, which would be appropriate to be as precise as possible here. But it is amazing to see these numbers.

PSV dropped points for the first time this season with the draw. Ajax are now slowly getting back into form and have caught up with AZ with another win, if Twente and AZ continue to drop points I don't think it's impossible that Ajax could still finish third after this bad start to the season, would have been unthinkable a few games ago.

Which page did you look at? Two years ago Ajax also had an exceptional season.
PSV's dropping of point isn't appearing to be as a surprise but I didn't expect it with as small team as Utrecht because PSV played much better in that game, even had more chances much better than Utrecht did, Utrecht was lucky after which they safeguarded their goal. It's okay to drop point at a time because you can't stay 100% throughout the season, PSV still have a very good distance away from the team at the second position with about 10points difference so they are still very safe even with the draw gotten against Utrecht, Ajax's improvement is definitely getting them somewhere before the end of the season.

It's very much possible Ajax gets to the third position on the table because they have been able to maintain a good winning record of which if the still maintain they can get to the third position soon but getting to the first is almost impossible this season.
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January 22, 2024, 08:18:54 PM
PSV Eindhoven had to finally break their good run.By good run, I mean that they lost their winning streak.PSV drew 1-1 away to Utrecht in the league and thus suffered their first point loss in the league.We cannot say that they played better than their opponent because Utrecht played just as well to win.Utrecht stopped their opponent's winning streak and got an important 1 point for themselves and for the other teams in the championship race.
Ajax, on the other hand, have continued their recovery in recent weeks. They had a bad start to the season but they have managed to turn it around with wins in recent weeks. With this win, they have been undefeated for 10 weeks.
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January 22, 2024, 03:32:53 PM
I did a quick search and found this. Ok this means PSV Eindhoven can break the record with the next game if they win it. A draw would not break the record if we take the goal difference into account, which would be appropriate to be as precise as possible here. But it is amazing to see these numbers.

PSV dropped points for the first time this season with the draw. Ajax are now slowly getting back into form and have caught up with AZ with another win, if Twente and AZ continue to drop points I don't think it's impossible that Ajax could still finish third after this bad start to the season, would have been unthinkable a few games ago.

Which page did you look at? Two years ago Ajax also had an exceptional season.
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January 22, 2024, 11:14:51 AM
I was seeing more closely the table of position and figured that Utrech is the "tie or draw" team haha, they have 7 draws in this season, only NEC nijmegen has 7 draw also, its quite strange to see two teams in so few games having 7 draws.

I see this after the Utrech draw agains the OP PSV
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January 22, 2024, 04:49:43 AM
For the league, I see PSV already as champions every other team have to battle for 2nd to 4th spot because PSV have been unbeaten in the league and have cemented their spot up there. Well kudos to Ajax as we watch what happens in the next few weeks of game play. They've fought so hard to get to the position they're currently and I'm pretty sure that they'll be in a better position in weeks to come.

I can say that AZ Alkmaar's performance has declined and they have performed poorly in the last few matches. Ajax has a chance to go to the European league next season but I think they will be below Twente. Twente's defeat in the match with NEC cannot be a sign that their performance has declined. NEC is a team in the top 10 and it is natural that they are in good form. At the moment Ajax are doing very well and Twente have only lost once in the last five games so I think the end of the season will belong to PSV and Feyenoord in second place. I'm sure Twente will be able to maintain its position but I don't know how Ajax will perform in the future.
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January 22, 2024, 03:47:25 AM
Today's games had surprising results. Ajax is back to its winning spirit, today once again Ajax won in a game in which they played against RKC who are currently in the last 3 positions of the table with 14 points and have a streak of 5 games without winning, They were a very easy opponent for Ajax, who knew how to take advantage of this game. Ajax managed to score 4 goals and only conceded 1 goal. With this victory, Ajax is in position number 5 and there are only 3 points left for Ajax to reach the team that currently occupies the position that would allow Ajax to remain in European competitions. This is a great achievement for Ajax, who until a few months ago were so far behind in the table that it seemed mission impossible for them to gain access to European competitions.

while Ajax is celebrating their victory and the fact that they are close to the access zones for European competitions, AZ must not be happy about Ajax's victory. This is because AZ drew in their game and with this draw they have 3 consecutive games without winning and are targets of being passed by Ajax if they lose in the next game. Looking at AZ's performance drop, I highly doubt that eventually ajax won't bypass them and take their place. another team that is also not doing well and that must not be looking favorably on this Ajax victory and Twente who lost in their game against NEC

with this defeat twente has 37 points while ajax has 31 points, if twente loses in the next games I believe that ajax could be able to occupy third place at the end of the league. Now it is no longer impossible for this to happen. Now talking about the top, honestly I see PSV as champions, I think it is very difficult for any team to be able to overcome PSV in the table. Feyenoord has been inconsistent at times, which is why I think it is difficult for Feyenoord to become champions, but in football everything is possible, if Ajax managed to get from the bottom of the table to currently be in 5th position, then it is also still possible that some team beats PSV and becomes champion
Ajax won today though against a very easy opponent but we must still credit Ajax for their win because it isn’t easy. Now they’re 3 points away from an European spot and we must commend the team for how they fought through their bad days to getting to top 5.

 Now AZ Alkmaar who’re above Ajax fell to a draw which we all knew would happen because I don’t think AZ will be a big instant for Ajax especially with an European spot in sight. Twente is another team that could come down; with these teams I’m very confident on Ajax getting an European spot for next season.

 For the league, I see PSV already as champions every other team have to battle for 2nd to 4th spot because PSV have been unbeaten in the league and have cemented their spot up there. Well kudos to Ajax as we watch what happens in the next few weeks of game play. They've fought so hard to get to the position they're currently and I'm pretty sure that they'll be in a better position in weeks to come.
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January 21, 2024, 04:57:31 PM
They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too.The second half of the season may likely take different turn in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too.

I predict that the end of the season will belong to PSV who will win the Eredivise. And second place is Feyenoord and third place is Twente. I don't think it can be replaced by another team. Ajax is playing well and is now only 5 points behind AZ Alkmaar and if Alkmaar plays badly in the next few matches then Ajax will replace Alkmaar in 4th place in the standings. Currently, Ajax is showing good performance by recording 4 wins and one draw from the last 5 matches. This is much better than the start of the season where Ajax only got a few wins and I thought their fate would be the same as Lyon in Ligue 1.


clearly PSV will easily win the eredevisie dutch league. because currently the distance with 2nd place feyenord is 10 points. and psv's squad is far more sparkling and complete than feyenord rotterdam's squad. 10points is quite a distance so it will be relaxed and easy for psv to win the dutch league.
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January 21, 2024, 04:00:51 PM
I don't think what happened in the premier league last season can happen here. The level of competition in the premier league is not the same here, so I don't see any chance that PSV will lose the top spot. Despite the big advantage PSV have they are still playing very well and getting more wins. They are not even showing any sign of slowing down.
Today Boussaid's 53rd minute goal for enough for the Utrecht to have steal one point from leaders PSV and also break their 17 matches winning streak with this draw but still I am also having not doubt bout their performance in coming weeks with as they are currently playing most chances they will keep things at the top and not allow any challenger to give them tough challenge Feyenoord is having 10 points difference and in next round they are going to host Twente which is currently at the third spot, but things can go problematic for them in coming weeks which will allow other teams to have better spot but for the top spot in coming 16 matches things are not easy and this year we are going to have PSV as the leaders and winners without any doubt but nothing is surely about next season as we have too many unpredictable things happening in all leagues.
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January 21, 2024, 03:27:31 PM
Today's games had surprising results. Ajax is back to its winning spirit, today once again Ajax won in a game in which they played against RKC who are currently in the last 3 positions of the table with 14 points and have a streak of 5 games without winning, They were a very easy opponent for Ajax, who knew how to take advantage of this game. Ajax managed to score 4 goals and only conceded 1 goal. With this victory, Ajax is in position number 5 and there are only 3 points left for Ajax to reach the team that currently occupies the position that would allow Ajax to remain in European competitions. This is a great achievement for Ajax, who until a few months ago were so far behind in the table that it seemed mission impossible for them to gain access to European competitions.

while Ajax is celebrating their victory and the fact that they are close to the access zones for European competitions, AZ must not be happy about Ajax's victory. This is because AZ drew in their game and with this draw they have 3 consecutive games without winning and are targets of being passed by Ajax if they lose in the next game. Looking at AZ's performance drop, I highly doubt that eventually ajax won't bypass them and take their place. another team that is also not doing well and that must not be looking favorably on this Ajax victory and Twente who lost in their game against NEC

with this defeat twente has 37 points while ajax has 31 points, if twente loses in the next games I believe that ajax could be able to occupy third place at the end of the league. Now it is no longer impossible for this to happen. Now talking about the top, honestly I see PSV as champions, I think it is very difficult for any team to be able to overcome PSV in the table. Feyenoord has been inconsistent at times, which is why I think it is difficult for Feyenoord to become champions, but in football everything is possible, if Ajax managed to get from the bottom of the table to currently be in 5th position, then it is also still possible that some team beats PSV and becomes champion
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