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Quote from: Joca97 on February 04, 2023, 05:24:51 PM

Another mistake by AZ and they had a great chance because now we have a derby between Feyenord and PSV. It would be good if PSV would win in this match to make the league even more intense. I think there will be lots of goals between this two teams and i would honestly play both teams to score

AZ definitely dropped important points, but as you write, PSV's game today against Feyenoord is important. The Ajax game has already started, let's see if AJax can win the game or lose important points again. Also Twente lose points in this round... The Winner of this round it's definitly Ajax.

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Quote from: Sirait on January 30, 2023, 02:59:09 AM

Quote from: MoonOfLife on January 29, 2023, 10:45:18 PM

I wouldn't say it was a bad result for Feyenoord. Because Twente is not a weak team. Despite being fifth in the points table, this team's performance is very good. As if they have lost only three matches this season. I would say the results were expected. As both the teams are strong enough, it is natural for such matches to be drawn. Even though this match is a draw, Feyenoord is 2 points ahead of Alkmaar in second place in the table.

twente is a tough team, even though Feyenoord had led the match with a score of 1-0 in the first half. It was clear that the two teams were evenly matched in this match. but Feyenoord is lucky because Alkmaar if it ends in a draw, so that Feyenoord's position at the top of the standings has not changed.

Twente has been performing quite consistently. Looking at this team, I think their main goal is to draw the match. Twente's defense is very strong. And Twente have the strongest defense in the Eredivisie league. They have conceded just 12 goals this season. It is very difficult to win against such a team.
I'm glad we don't see Ajax dominating this season. Ajax and PSV are slightly behind. Feyenoord and Alkmaar seem the most likely to win the title.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 04, 2023, 03:51:09 PM

AZ only played a draw today. The important games for the championship are tomorrow. With a win against PSV, Feyenoord could pull away a bit, but I think it's more likely to be a draw, which Ajax could use to make up some points, but Ajax also have to win first.

Another mistake by AZ and they had a great chance because now we have a derby between Feyenord and PSV. It would be good if PSV would win in this match to make the league even more intense. I think there will be lots of goals between this two teams and i would honestly play both teams to score

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 04, 2023, 03:51:09 PM

AZ only played a draw today. The important games for the championship are tomorrow. With a win against PSV, Feyenoord could pull away a bit, but I think it's more likely to be a draw, which Ajax could use to make up some points, but Ajax also have to win first.

It would be great if it did become a draw but of course when it comes to PSV anything can still happen now.
The advantage of playing at home must be put to good use by Feyenoord in this match because if they draw or even lose this match they still can't get away, otherwise PSV will put pressure other than AZ.
The difference in points is still very small now for them so if they really want to be safe then 3 points is the right price.

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AZ only played a draw today. The important games for the championship are tomorrow. With a win against PSV, Feyenoord could pull away a bit, but I think it's more likely to be a draw, which Ajax could use to make up some points, but Ajax also have to win first.

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The Excelsior win must provide Ajax some momentum from now on. They really needed it after leaving so many weeks without a win. They were quite away from the league leader as well.

But Feyenoord's losing points on the same week was a big luck for Ajax. The gap is 5 points now. There are two teams between as well of course. I expect this title race to be very competitive until the end of the season. This has been what I wanted for a long time actually. It is better to see some race among a couple of teams rather than seeing one of them dominating. Ajax will need to work very hard to take their lead back.

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As suspected, Feyenoord and Twente played out a draw and Ajax won for the first time in a long time and made up some ground in the table. What a crazy game at Utrecht and AZ, with a total of 10 goals.

In the next round Feyenoord and PSV play each other, so it could easily be a draw again.

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If you look at the result of the Excelsior - Ajax match, you see 1-4 and you think it was an easy victory. I have seen the summary with accompanying analyzes and it was not that easy. In fact, at halftime Excelsior should have scored at least 4 goals. So it was actually another bad match, but this time Ajax had luck on its side. They have also had a lot of bad luck, so it may be a good time. But Twente could also have beaten Feyenoord if it had managed to take advantage of a great opportunity 5 minutes before the end. The best papers for Feyenoord, and an advantage that AZ was unable to win this competition round.

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 29, 2023, 10:13:11 AM

Yeah, there we go. Feyenoord dropping points at a time when they need statements of intent, now leaving the door open for Alkmaar (what?) to sit atop the league, if they win and Eindhoven takes what they'll feel is a possible victory at Feyenoord next game.

Couldn't have been an easier debut for Heitinga in the end, though must be nice to see Kudus, Tadic and Klaasen on target.

yeah, Feyenoord was up and that should not be lost points, but in the end, Ajax is now on -5, with Feyenoord having a match with PSV, could become really tight from next weekend

that is what I meant with Feyenoord is not mentally prepared to win in series, they haven't connected several wins this season, and Ajax can win ten in series easily, and that would be a game changer, hopefully not going to happen

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Quote from: MoonOfLife on January 29, 2023, 10:45:18 PM

I wouldn't say it was a bad result for Feyenoord. Because Twente is not a weak team. Despite being fifth in the points table, this team's performance is very good. As if they have lost only three matches this season. I would say the results were expected. As both the teams are strong enough, it is natural for such matches to be drawn. Even though this match is a draw, Feyenoord is 2 points ahead of Alkmaar in second place in the table.

twente is a tough team, even though Feyenoord had led the match with a score of 1-0 in the first half. It was clear that the two teams were evenly matched in this match. but Feyenoord is lucky because Alkmaar if it ends in a draw, so that Feyenoord's position at the top of the standings has not changed.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on January 29, 2023, 06:20:47 PM

Don't know what to think about Feyenoord draw with Twente. From perspective of leaders, it's bad result. But on the other hand, it's away game with team which also have ambitions to fight for title, so, draw maybe isn't that bad result.

I wouldn't say it was a bad result for Feyenoord. Because Twente is not a weak team. Despite being fifth in the points table, this team's performance is very good. As if they have lost only three matches this season. I would say the results were expected. As both the teams are strong enough, it is natural for such matches to be drawn. Even though this match is a draw, Feyenoord is 2 points ahead of Alkmaar in second place in the table.

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Perhaps a bit short-sighted, but Schreuder has left Ajax and suddenly Ajax is able to score many goals and the away match at Excelsior is easily won. John Heitinga was a trainer of the 2nd team, and now seems to be taking over the task. But one swallow makes another summer. The top Twente Feyenoord has ended in a draw, so that all teams remain relatively close to each other in this way, so it remains exciting. Especially Sparta has a dream season with a 6th place. Last year still playing football in the fight against relegation.

It happens often that after change of coach, team wins in first game. But only time will tell did change helped them. Heitinga is hired as temporarry coach, but if he will do well, maybe they will keep him until end of season. Finally they won and scored some goals, but usually such games after manager change isn't indicator of something.
Don't know what to think about Feyenoord draw with Twente. From perspective of leaders, it's bad result. But on the other hand, it's away game with team which also have ambitions to fight for title, so, draw maybe isn't that bad result.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 29, 2023, 11:19:00 AM

AZ Alkmaar 5 - 5 FC Utrecht

this was a game that gave me a big headache, I watched this game and honestly, I kept asking myself: what the hell is going on in this game? when one team scored the other scored a goal in a row, and it was like that until the game ended, I was already thinking that I could lose money if I kept a lot of bets, so I decided to cancel my bet

in just one game AZ Alkmaar conceded 5 goals, even before choosing them for my parlay I thought many times about putting them on but then I put them on my parlay thinking that they were facing a very difficult game, but I didn't imagine that AZ Alkmaar would have conceded so many goals and wouldn't have been able to leave the game with a victory, but I'm happy that despite AZ Alkmaar having tied I'd leave this game with a profit

I knew the match will yield many goals and that was the reason I played G-G and over 2 which gave me 3 odds. Eredivisie is a goal-producing league so I'm not surprised to see matches ending with 2-2 goals and above. Even a slight observation of the goals scored by the top 5 teams in the standing can tell that teams involved in the competition a so eager to score. I'm still surprised to see ajax in the 4th position but yet the highest goal-scoring side in the tournament.

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Perhaps a bit short-sighted, but Schreuder has left Ajax and suddenly Ajax is able to score many goals and the away match at Excelsior is easily won. John Heitinga was a trainer of the 2nd team, and now seems to be taking over the task. But one swallow makes another summer. The top Twente Feyenoord has ended in a draw, so that all teams remain relatively close to each other in this way, so it remains exciting. Especially Sparta has a dream season with a 6th place. Last year still playing football in the fight against relegation.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on January 29, 2023, 04:57:47 AM

Quote from: Docnaster on January 29, 2023, 04:04:35 AM

Ajax is well known for the Eredivisie title. They remain the most successful with about 36 titles followed by Feyenoord's 24 titles. But I think it will be a big mouth to say that they will overthrow Feyenoord in this season's Eredivisie title race when the title leaders are already 7 points ahead of them. In the table. But I believe Ajax may assume the 4th position today after winning Excelsior because I don't think Twente will have a win against Feyenoord today

Ajax really needs to win again today, Twente and Feyenoord smell a bit like a draw but we will know soon.

Feyenoord is having an unbelievable season this year, while PSV and Ajax don't have the form they had last year, so everything remains exciting, the last few years almost nobody except Ajax and PSV had a chance to win the title.

You are right, myself I am beginning to have cold fits about Feyenoord, they are dropping points at a very risky time. is now 5 points from Ajax and 2 points from their closest contender AZ Alkmaar. Feyenoord is gradually missing a foot in the door of winning the Eredivisie this season . Though the beginning looked different , we know the usual nature of the Eredivisie top 4. It is now easy to predict how the table will be after Ajax wins against Excelsior and Feyenoord drew against Twente.

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AZ Alkmaar 5 - 5 FC Utrecht

this was a game that gave me a big headache, I watched this game and honestly I kept asking myself: what the hell is going on in this game? when one team scored the other scored a goal in a row, and it was like that until the game ended, I was already thinking that I could lose money if I kept a lot of bets, so I decided to cancel my bet

in just one game AZ Alkmaar conceded 5 goals, even before choosing them for my parlay I thought many times about putting them on but then I put them on my parlay thinking that they were facing a very difficult game, but I didn't imagine that AZ Alkmaar would have conceded so many goals and wouldn't have been able to leave the game with a victory, but I'm happy that despite AZ Alkmaar having tied I'd leave this game with a profit

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Yeah, there we go. Feyenoord dropping points at a time when they need statements of intent, now leaving the door open for Alkmaar (what?) to sit atop the league, if they win and Eindhoven takes what they'll feel is a possible victory at Feyenoord next game.

Couldn't have been an easier debut for Heitinga in the end, though must be nice to see Kudus, Tadic and Klaasen on target.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 29, 2023, 04:04:35 AM

Ajax is well known for the Eredivisie title. They remain the most successful with about 36 titles followed by Feyenoord's 24 titles. But I think it will be a big mouth to say that they will overthrow Feyenoord in this season's Eredivisie title race when the title leaders are already 7 points ahead of them. In the table. But I believe Ajax may assume the 4th position today after winning Excelsior because I don't think Twente will have a win against Feyenoord today

Ajax really need to win again today, Twente and Feyenoord smell a bit like a draw but we will know soon.

Feyenoord are having an unbelievable season this year, while PSV and Ajax don't have the form they had last year, so everything remains exciting, the last few years almost nobody except Ajax and PSV had a chance to win the title.

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Quote from: casperBGD on January 28, 2023, 07:21:03 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 27, 2023, 06:52:48 PM

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IMO, Feyenoord is not stable enough to win title in the end, although I would like to see them on top

So, which team would you back now? IMO, none of teams from leading group aren't looking very stable. Maybe AZ have best results recently, but I still wouldn't count on them in the long run. This round Feyenoord will have another big test, this time they will face Twente away.
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still think that PSV or Ajax will won the championship
and closer to thinking that Ajax will do it, despite the current draw strike, Feyenoord can easily go several matches without a win, and they will probably do that sooner than later, all that Ajax needs is to stay in the loop within this distance and connect wins in a row (and they certainly can do that), and everything is back to "normal" for them

as you said, Feyenoord is facing Twente tomorrow, and that is a chance for all competitors, in case they fail to win

Ajax is well known for the Eredivisie title. They remain the most successful with about 36 titles followed by Feyenoord's 24 titles. But I think it will be a big mouth to say that they will overthrow Feyenoord in this season's Eredivisie title race when the title leaders are already 7 points ahead of them. In the table. But I believe Ajax may assume the 4th position today after winning Excelsior because I don't think Twente will have a win against Feyenoord today

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 27, 2023, 04:02:09 PM

It's a damn shame that Ajax failed to win even this game, which was totally within scope of them winning and they were really on the way to getting an easy win against a team that shouldn't have been a problem for them at all. To consider that they have gotten yet another tie means that there is something wrong with the team that is beyond just the roster and the manager.

Maybe it is a few psychological reasons behind it, maybe the team doesn't feel the confidence they used to feel and they do not want to lose games but they do not feel like they could become a great team either, and that causes them to feel more at ease with a tie, and work harder when behind, but not work hard to win it.

Ajax had always been a big risk to my betting slip. They lose in matches that are supposed to be a must-win for them. there are indeed a few psychological reasons behind it but it is a complete reverse of your approach because all I saw was a play that is mechanized by a high degree of overconfidence. They just lose that opportunity of kicking off Twente from the top 4 and I'm having a cold fit on whether they are still in for the Eredivisie title race.

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