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Quote from: blue Snow on October 18, 2022, 09:07:02 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on October 18, 2022, 06:00:53 AM

The Eredivisie is definitely more balanced this year, and we've already talked about whether Feyenoord and AZ can keep up with PSV and Ajax in a longer season. It would be nice for us spectors if it was a four-way fight until the end, but it will be difficult if Ajax lose the difficult and intense Champions League games and the whole squad is fitter in the spring.

I was also a bit surprised with them, especially AZ. a week ago that team was on top, but maybe because their concentration is split in the confederation Europa league they can't control and hold the position on top, then lost at home vs Feyenoord. So, I think if AZ and Feyenoord are capable to compete with Ajax and PSV, the competition would be balanced until the last session. We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.

After all, AZ lost to Feyenoord, not some bottom table team. It's painful loss, but not tragedy, they dropped to 4th place, but still just 2 points behind Ajax.
Ajax isn't looking good Champions league, probably they will drop to Europa League, where they can go far. Other 3 clubs also have good chances to go far in Europa and Champions league. In such case, then it's question on squad depth and injuries which can be decisive in title race. Also, big factor will be in what condition players will return after World Cup break. I think it's very likely that it will be big drop of players shape after World Cup.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 18, 2022, 09:07:02 PM

I was also a bit surprised with them, especially AZ. a week ago that team was on top, but maybe because their concentration is split in the confederation Europa league they can't control and hold the position on top, then lost at home vs Feyenoord.

I believe that the problem was not lack of concentration, the opponent was more effective in scoring goals, just see that the opponent scored 3 goals, this overwhelming number of goals shows that Feyenoord was more superior on the field and AZ will need to work hard from now on because the other teams that are below them don't have a big difference in points, if they lose two games it will be enough for other teams to approach them

Quote from: blue Snow on October 18, 2022, 09:07:02 PM

So, I think if AZ and Feyenoord are capable to compete with Ajax and PSV, the competition would be balanced until the last session.

looking realistically I doubt they will be able to keep up with Ajax and PSV, both Ajax and PSV are very strong teams and they score a lot of goals, it is not easy for other teams to compete with Ajax and PSV unless the other teams are bought by some rich and hire good coaches and good players, only then the other teams would be strong and the league would be more competitive

Quote from: blue Snow on October 18, 2022, 09:07:02 PM

We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.

ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions

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Quote from: doomloop on October 18, 2022, 09:40:41 AM

Even right now in Dutch League Ajax and PSV have strong hold and with available sources and financial situation both teams are best in business, but positive thing happened in this season we have four teams at top which are competing, and AZ Alkmaar are doing good job now they lost first match against Feyenoord but still had potential for giving tough competition in remaining season to opponents.

Ajax and PSV are again at the top spots as now Ajax is close to drop from Champions League and PSV is doing good in Europa Cup but these both are giving their best in Eredivisie for going into Champions League in next season now next few rounds are easy for top teams, and we can't expect any change in surely things could be interesting after January when all teams will do play with their strength for having top ranks.

Yeah, I've "traditionally" supported Feyenoord, but only because of close ties (spiritual more than anything else perhaps) to Liverpool, not to mention I loved every bit of the season when Dirk Kuyt lifted the trophy with them with YNWA loud and clear.

But equally enjoy seeing PSV and Alkmaar rough up the slick boys from Amsterdam a bit this season (sorry we had to beat them).

Initially thought I'd go watch Cambuur a lot after their helicopter celebration video I came across haha but couldn't bear watching a game.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 18, 2022, 06:00:53 AM

The Eredivisie is definitely more balanced this year, and we've already talked about whether Feyenoord and AZ can keep up with PSV and Ajax in a longer season. It would be nice for us spectors if it was a four-way fight until the end, but it will be difficult if Ajax lose the difficult and intense Champions League games and the whole squad is fitter in the spring.

I was also a bit surprised with them, especially AZ. a week ago that team was on top, but maybe because their concentration is split in the confederation Europa league they can't control and hold the position on top, then lost at home vs Feyenoord. So, I think if AZ and Feyenoord are capable to compete with Ajax and PSV, the competition would be balanced until the last session. We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 18, 2022, 06:00:53 AM

Quote from: buwaytress on October 17, 2022, 11:06:13 AM

Haven't followed the season much in Eredivisie after giving up on Feyenoord in Europe, but definitely agree that the Alkmaar weirdness does provide for a better season than usual. The weekend was a bit strange though, Freiburg (who have been awesome in Bundesliga) have just been reminded of where they should be same as Alkmaar... I guess as the season wears on we'll see the dust settle and the rightful positions restored.

The Eredivisie is definitely more balanced this year, and we've already talked about whether Feyenoord and AZ can keep up with PSV and Ajax in a longer season. It would be nice for us spectors if it was a four-way fight until the end, but it will be difficult if Ajax lose the difficult and intense Champions League games and the whole squad is fitter in the spring.

Even right now in Dutch League Ajax and PSV have strong hold and with available sources and financial situation both teams are best in business, but positive thing happened in this season we have four teams at top which are competing, and AZ Alkmaar are doing good job now they lost first match against Feyenoord but still had potential for giving tough competition in remaining season to opponents.

Ajax and PSV are again at the top spots as now Ajax is close to drop from Champions League and PSV is doing good in Europa Cup but these both are giving their best in Eredivisie for going into Champions League in next season now next few rounds are easy for top teams, and we can't expect any change in surely things could be interesting after January when all teams will do play with their strength for having top ranks.

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 17, 2022, 11:06:13 AM

Haven't followed the season much in Eredivisie after giving up on Feyenoord in Europe, but definitely agree that the Alkmaar weirdness does provide for a better season than usual. The weekend was a bit strange though, Freiburg (who have been awesome in Bundesliga) have just been reminded of where they should be same as Alkmaar... I guess as the season wears on we'll see the dust settle and the rightful positions restored.

The Eredivisie is definitely more balanced this year, and we've already talked about whether Feyenoord and AZ can keep up with PSV and Ajax in a longer season. It would be nice for us spectors if it was a four-way fight until the end, but it will be difficult if Ajax lose the difficult and intense Champions League games and the whole squad is fitter in the spring.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 17, 2022, 06:56:58 AM

Ajax and PSV overran their opponents and AZ surprisingly lost to Feyenoord, I was expecting a draw.

So now Ajax are top of the table again and the top 4 teams are only 2 points apart, that's still very little, keep it up.

The season seems to be/becomes more interesting than we all thought.

Haven't followed the season much in Eredivisie after giving up on Feyenoord in Europe, but definitely agree that the Alkmaar weirdness does provide for a better season than usual. The weekend was a bit strange though, Freiburg (who have been awesome in Bundesliga) have just been reminded of where they should be same as Alkmaar... I guess as the season wears on we'll see the dust settle and the rightful positions restored.

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Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on October 17, 2022, 02:09:34 AM

because losing to Feyenoord made AZ drop straight to rank 4, did not think that AZ was able to concede 3 goals after having led by 1 goal in the 26th minute through Odgaard's goal.

PSV won 6-1 against utrecht
Ajax won 7-1 against Excelsior

looks like both teams (PSV and Ajax) are really competing hard for the top position of the Eredivisie league.

Ajax and PSV overran their opponents and AZ surprisingly lost to Feyenoord, I was expecting a draw.

So now Ajax are top of the table again and the top 4 teams are only 2 points apart, that's still very little, keep it up.

The season seems to be/becomes more interesting than we all thought.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on October 16, 2022, 04:15:20 PM

You have to check timing and other elements before replying any post because this post was created before start of the match and then surely there was no clue what is going to happen in this match most of the peoples were feeling as league leaders AZ Alkmaar is surely going to dominate this match as they were undefeated team and doing amazing job but Feyenoord done good job and completely outclass them at home which is surely a big success.

I'm aware of those things mate, I just wanted to make a follow up on the argument made by @Ludmilla_rose1995, you see? he made another reply of my response, sometimes we have to make things like that to make this topic more interactive.

Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on October 17, 2022, 02:09:34 AM

because losing to Feyenoord made AZ drop straight to rank 4, did not think that AZ was able to concede 3 goals after having led by 1 goal in the 26th minute through Odgaard's goal.

That makes sense, because Feyenoord is actually much stronger than AZ Alkmaar in terms of team strength. Just like Liverpool, they have just been unlucky this season. You can see the performance of the brand last season, they were even able to finish in 3rd place in the standings.

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Quote from: MAAManda on October 16, 2022, 02:17:24 PM

Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on October 16, 2022, 06:35:50 AM

it's hard to predict whether Feyenoord will win against AZ when the match will take place at home to AZ. although Feyenoord is a strong team, compared to AZ, they have lost 1 time while AZ is still unbeaten. I predict AZ will win with a score of 2-0 in today's match.

Have you seen the results of the AZ Vs Feyenoord match?

Feyenoord won from AZ in the away match with a score of 1 - 3, other than that according to my prediction that this week the standings will be led by Ajax, although PSV won by a big score (6 - 1) from Utrecht, but currently Ajax are also leading the match against Excelsior. Maybe we will see additional goals from Ajax, I predict that the Ajax Vs Utrecht match will end with a score of 5 - 0.

because losing to Feyenoord made AZ drop straight to rank 4, did not think that AZ was able to concede 3 goals after having led by 1 goal in the 26th minute through Odgaard's goal.

PSV won 6-1 against utrecht
Ajax won 7-1 against Excelsior

looks like both teams (PSV and Ajax) are really competing hard for the top position of the Eredivisie league.

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These are pretty shocking results:

Twente 3 - 0 FC Groningen

Twente crushed Groningen, it was an easy win for Twente

PSV Eindhoven 6 - 1 FC Utrecht

in this game also PSV Eindhoven crushed their opponent, honestly Utrecht conceded 6 goals and didn't even have any chance to win or draw in that game

Ajax 7 - 1 Excelsior

Ajax also crushed his opponent by scoring 7 goals, it looks like there were no Excelsior players on the field

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on October 16, 2022, 03:51:17 PM

AZ had become a kind of title favorite for many people in the Netherlands due to the performance and the game shown in recent months. Also in Europe of course. Feyenoord was better and had a good win. But football is so opportunistic, if you play a few matches well you are favorite for the title and if you lose twice then you can't do anything anymore. But the fact that the title race is still completely open is only nice for the football spectators. Ajax lashed out hard and I think there was also a lot of frustration in all those goals.

looking at the current scenario, AZ doesn't have a great chance of being champion,

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Quote from: MAAManda on October 16, 2022, 02:17:24 PM

Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on October 16, 2022, 06:35:50 AM

it's hard to predict whether Feyenoord will win against AZ when the match will take place at home to AZ. although Feyenoord is a strong team, compared to AZ, they have lost 1 time while AZ is still unbeaten. I predict AZ will win with a score of 2-0 in today's match.

Have you seen the results of the AZ Vs Feyenoord match?

Feyenoord won from AZ in the away match with a score of 1 - 3, other than that according to my prediction that this week the standings will be led by Ajax, although PSV won by a big score (6 - 1) from Utrecht, but currently Ajax are also leading the match against Excelsior. Maybe we will see additional goals from Ajax, I predict that the Ajax Vs Utrecht match will end with a score of 5 - 0.

You have to check timing and other elements before replying any post because this post was created before start of the match and then surely there was no clue what is going to happen in this match most of the peoples were feeling as league leaders AZ Alkmaar is surely going to dominate this match as they were undefeated team and doing amazing job but Feyenoord done good job and completely outclass them at home which is surely a big success.

Now with this result Ajax is new leaders and PSV is at second spot Feyenoord at third and after first defeat now AZ Alkmaar now dropped to fourth which is surely not good, but they have ability and quality to fight back hopefully we will have good changes in league table in coming weeks.

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AZ had become a kind of title favorite for many people in the Netherlands due to the performance and the game shown in recent months. Also in Europe of course. Feyenoord was better and had a good win. But football is so opportunistic, if you play a few matches well you are favorite for the title and if you lose twice then you can't do anything anymore. But the fact that the title race is still completely open is only nice for the football spectators. Ajax lashed out hard and I think there was also a lot of frustration in all those goals.

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AZ - Feyenoord was a pretty interesting match. The first half was balanced and the score was 1-1 also. But AZ started to perform really badly in the second half. They had like only one shot in the whole half and Feyenoord started to take control of the match. It was a well-deserved win by 3-1 for Feyenoord for certain. The last time Feyenoord defeated them here was in 2017 so this was an important victory for them mentally also.

Ajax were like they revenged the Napoli loss against Excelsior by a huge 7-1 win. There isn't much to surprise about of course. It is the same about PSV also. There is only a two-point gap between the leader Ajax and the fourth team which are AZ now. It is lovely to follow such rivalry for the title for now but I'm confident that there will be only Ajax and PSV left in this at a point.

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Quote from: MAAManda on October 16, 2022, 02:17:24 PM

Feyenoord won from AZ in the away match with a score of 1 - 3, other than that according to my prediction that this week the standings will be led by Ajax, although PSV won by a big score (6 - 1) from Utrecht, but currently Ajax are also leading the match against Excelsior. Maybe we will see additional goals from Ajax, I predict that the Ajax Vs Utrecht match will end with a score of 5 - 0.

Interesting round with some big results. Ajax after another poor performance in Champions League were really angry today. They destroyed Excelsior 7:1 and returns on the top of table. PSV win against Utrecht were easy too - 6:1. Thing started well for AZ as they scored first goal, but Feyenoord responded them with 3 goals and won game. AZ dropped 1st to 4th place after this game, but everything is so close between Top 4 now.

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Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on October 16, 2022, 06:35:50 AM

it's hard to predict whether Feyenoord will win against AZ when the match will take place at home to AZ. although Feyenoord is a strong team, compared to AZ, they have lost 1 time while AZ is still unbeaten. I predict AZ will win with a score of 2-0 in today's match.

Have you seen the results of the AZ Vs Feyenoord match?

Feyenoord won from AZ in the away match with a score of 1 - 3, other than that according to my prediction that this week the standings will be led by Ajax, although PSV won by a big score (6 - 1) from Utrecht, but currently Ajax are also leading the match against Excelsior. Maybe we will see additional goals from Ajax, I predict that the Ajax Vs Utrecht match will end with a score of 5 - 0.

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a (6-1) win from Utrecht put PSV in 2nd place. while AZ vs Feyenoord was running with a draw (1-1). AZ must win in this match if they want to make distance with PSV, but Feyenoord is not an easy team to beat, most likely a draw will be the final score.

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Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on October 16, 2022, 06:35:50 AM

Quote from: MAAManda on October 15, 2022, 11:58:53 AM

Today we have no matches from AZ, Ajax and also PSV. Of course, with a very low points difference, we'll see changes every week in the Eredivisie.

If we refer to the match schedule, most likely we'll not see AZ Alkmaar at the top of the standings, because they will compete with Feyenoord which is also a strong team in the Eredivisie, Ajax are strong candidates to be at the top of the standings because they will only face Excelsior, LOL .

it's hard to predict whether Feyenoord will win against AZ when the match will take place at home to AZ. although Feyenoord is a strong team, compared to AZ, they have lost 1 time while AZ is still unbeaten. I predict AZ will win with a score of 2-0 in today's match.

Right now we have two matches in progress and both home teams are punishing visitors badly with PSV vs Utrecht after 75 minutes are 4 - 1 and in other match Twente vs Groningen 2 - 0 now nothing change going to happen in these matches and these will be stayed at same rank.

After few minutes we have another big match where current leaders of Dutch League AZ Alkmaar going to host Feyenoord both teams are in good form but in away games Feyenoord in last two games are losing their momentum which is surely going to help AZ Alkmaar which is currently undefeated in this season and going to challenge PSV and Ajax for title race.

After this we have another exciting match, Ajax going to host Excelsior which could be easy for the home team, and they could be regained their second spot in league table after this match.

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PSV done their job, and smashed Utrecht, 4:1 at the moment, could end up worse for Utrecht

and now to AZ with Feyenoord, interesting match, AZ topping the table, I hope they will win today, and stay on top, although that would send Feyenoord six points down to leader
with all said, would play goals on this one, those should be very reasonable to expect, at least 4 goals this afternoon

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Quote from: MAAManda on October 15, 2022, 11:58:53 AM

Today we have no matches from AZ, Ajax and also PSV. Of course, with a very low points difference, we'll see changes every week in the Eredivisie.

If we refer to the match schedule, most likely we'll not see AZ Alkmaar at the top of the standings, because they will compete with Feyenoord which is also a strong team in the Eredivisie, Ajax are strong candidates to be at the top of the standings because they will only face Excelsior, LOL .

it's hard to predict whether Feyenoord will win against AZ when the match will take place at home to AZ. although Feyenoord is a strong team, compared to AZ, they have lost 1 time while AZ is still unbeaten. I predict AZ will win with a score of 2-0 in today's match.

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