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Quote from: mv1986 on February 20, 2022, 05:50:27 PM

Quote from: casperBGD on February 20, 2022, 04:00:00 PM

Ajax won 0:1, but those are the games when you show your championship aspirations, win every time, no matter is that 0:1 or 0:4
PSV and Feyenoord won as well, and Utrecht played good match against Vittesse, draw in the end 1:1, but solid football

will be interesting to see PSV and Ajax in Europe, PSV is playing re-match in Isreal, will be a tough one

Yes I don't think it can be expected that Ajax will give away a couple of games this season and since Ajax and PSV already played against each other, there won't really be any chances for PSV to catch up with Ajax anymore. I would say that even though it is only four points, these four points seem to be a lot more than they would under normal circumstances. Ajax just keeps delivering week after week and I guess it is more likely that PSV might be demoralized soon and maybe even lose another game when Ajax keeps on winning.

Even though in the last 2 matches this club has been quite good in performance, but it is certain that Ajax will be very favored because indeed they will only play against lower teams but it will still be very difficult for PSV because they will play against Heerenveen who incidentally they are currently at. mid-table although their performance is not good enough now.
I think this is decisive for PSV because indeed if they want to compete well enough they will inevitably have to win this match.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 21, 2022, 07:54:32 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on February 21, 2022, 06:00:26 AM

Quote from: Ebede on February 20, 2022, 08:42:05 PM

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Ajax is like Bayern

agree, and PSV is as Dortmund, they can win title here and there, but we all know which team is the best
it is hard to be always on top, but these two teams are usually there, and they miss some seasons, but both are playing best when needed

Ajax is playing Benfica on Wednesday, and that is a really important match for them, to mark their spot in next CL round

Yes, you could compare it like that in the Eredivisie, PSG in France, Bayern in Germany and here in Austria with Salzburg, these teams are far superior to the other league rivals except for a few seasons. I'm curious about the game against Benfica and how Ajax will then fare against Go Ahead Eagles at the weekend, or whether they might have a slip-up in the league, financially the game against Benfica is probably more important.

In the table you can see that PSV has lost the most points in the last 5 rounds of the TOP4.

Well we have seen the first leg now, which Ajax isn't probably too happy about.

Regarding the league, this season Ajax is even more crazy than Bayern to a certain degree but there is also a crazy anomaly which I mentioned months ago. Considering that Ajax conceded only five!!! goals, it is actually weird that they already dropped points in five games. 3 ties and 2 losses with 5 conceded goals after 23 games, that shows how efficient their opponents must have been. Usually you would expect no points dropped at all with a statistic of 70 to 5 goals after 23 games.

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Quote from: casperBGD on February 21, 2022, 06:00:26 AM

Quote from: Ebede on February 20, 2022, 08:42:05 PM

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Ajax is like Bayern

agree, and PSV is as Dortmund, they can win title here and there, but we all know which team is the best
it is hard to be always on top, but these two teams are usually there, and they miss some seasons, but both are playing best when needed

Ajax is playing Benfica on Wednesday, and that is a really important match for them, to mark their spot in next CL round

Yes, you could compare it like that in the Eredivisie, PSG in France, Bayern in Germany and here in Austria with Salzburg, these teams are far superior to the other league rivals except for a few seasons. I'm curious about the game against Benfica and how Ajax will then fare against Go Ahead Eagles at the weekend, or whether they might have a slip-up in the league, financially the game against Benfica is probably more important.

In the table you can see that PSV has lost the most points in the last 5 rounds of the TOP4.

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Quote from: Ebede on February 20, 2022, 08:42:05 PM

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Ajax is like Bayern

agree, and PSV is as Dortmund, they can win title here and there, but we all know which team is the best
it is hard to be always on top, but these two teams are usually there, and they miss some seasons, but both are playing best when needed

Ajax is playing Benfica on Wednesday, and that is a really important match for them, to mark their spot in next CL round

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Quote from: Alisha-k on February 20, 2022, 11:12:13 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on January 20, 2021, 05:56:21 AM

Ajax still the strongest club in Eredivisie, the club had 34 Eredivisie trophies. when I look at the picture they never lose in all tournaments and still the favorite champions in this session. by the way, they defeated the rival Feyenoord 1-0 last weekend.

Ajax all the way. They hold an impressive record which the others find hard to beat. Psv and AZ Alkmaar are also another set of interesting clubs to put your money on but can't compare Ajax.
Ajax are a club who regularly give goals see their game against Willem 2, how it was a mauling of sorts. The opposing side did not even have a chance at possesing the ball, not shots on target. They where completely at mercy of Ajax.

I was a bit surprised you mentioned my post in 2021, at that time Ajax is my favorite, but for this year (2022) I choose PSV. I know it's hard to even Ajax always won and has achievement win 10 a row, but PSV still has a chance. Moreover, only 5 points difference, and the game still many that possible Ajax will get slip if the player is unguarded plus the number of matches they have played, Champions League and etc, that make break concentration each player.

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Quote from: dre1982 on January 20, 2021, 05:41:14 AM

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My favorite club is Ajax. Grin

Ajax is like Bayern they don't want to know if they are at home or away once they catch you, you will be beaten. They are good, always in the form. They sit first at the table with 57 points from 23games no doubt they will win their league I see no team stopping them not even PSV.

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Quote from: casperBGD on February 20, 2022, 04:00:00 PM

Ajax won 0:1, but those are the games when you show your championship aspirations, win every time, no matter is that 0:1 or 0:4
PSV and Feyenoord won as well, and Utrecht played good match against Vittesse, draw in the end 1:1, but solid football

will be interesting to see PSV and Ajax in Europe, PSV is playing re-match in Isreal, will be a tough one

Yes I don't think it can be expected that Ajax will give away a couple of games this season and since Ajax and PSV already played against each other, there won't really be any chances for PSV to catch up with Ajax anymore. I would say that even though it is only four points, these four points seem to be a lot more than they would under normal circumstances. Ajax just keeps delivering week after week and I guess it is more likely that PSV might be demoralized soon and maybe even lose another game when Ajax keeps on winning.

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Ajax won 0:1, but those are the games when you show your championship aspirations, win every time, no matter is that 0:1 or 0:4
PSV and Feyenoord won as well, and Utrecht played good match against Vittesse, draw in the end 1:1, but solid football

will be interesting to see PSV and Ajax in Europe, PSV is playing re-match in Isreal, will be a tough one

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 20, 2022, 04:35:32 AM

Apart from the weather, I think Willem II played very defensively, even though they also played in the 4:3:3 formation, but certainly very defensively and let Ajax do the playing, hence the high possession of Ajax. But I didn't see the game, so this is just a guess on my part. The statistics with corner kicks and goal kicks would confirm it.

Yep, at first I felt they wanted to play with a counterbalancing style from Ajax considering the formation they did, but indeed this is a big mistake and actually I think their formation with a defensive strategy is actually not very suitable but they played quite well by placing almost all of their players when attacked by ajax.
Pretty good defense and strategy but it's a shame they had to lose by a narrow score

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Quote from: blue Snow on January 20, 2021, 05:56:21 AM

Ajax still the strongest club in Eredivisie, the club had 34 Eredivisie trophies. when I look at the picture they never lose in all tournaments and still the favorite champions in this session. by the way, they defeated the rival Feyenoord 1-0 last weekend.

Ajax all the way. They hold an impressive record which the others find hard to beat. Psv and AZ Alkmaar are also another set of interesting clubs to put your money on but can't compare Ajax.
Ajax are a club who regularly give goals see their game against Willem 2, how it was a mauling of sorts. The opposing side did not even have a chance at possesing the ball, not shots on target. They where completely at mercy of Ajax.

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PSV vs Heerenveen PSV win or over 2.5 goals and why i dare to pick this option because PSV had made 10 goals from 3 matches so they were clearly on fire

Feyenoord vs Cambuur Feyenoord win

Twente vs Go Ahead Eagles Twente win

Utrecht vs Vitesse both teams to score or draw

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on February 19, 2022, 04:40:23 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on February 19, 2022, 04:22:37 PM

A late goal gave Ajax a narrow 0:1 win today. Ajax had an overwhelming 73% of the ball, but they scored in minute 81 to extend their lead. PSV and Feyenoord now have to follow suit to stay in the race for the title, even though it is almost hopeless to challenge Ajax for the title.

Ajax indeed only just won, but those victories also suffered. At one point I even saw a ball occupied for Ajax of 75% against 25% of Willem 2. It will make little difference to Ajax that they hadn't won big. It was also very bad weather at Willem 2 in the Netherlands, it was not that easy. And another disallowed goal. Ajax is by far the strongest team in the Netherlands, and that goal difference is also impressive.

Apart from the weather, I think Willem II played very defensively, even though they also played in the 4:3:3 formation, but certainly very defensively and let Ajax do the playing, hence the high possession of Ajax. But I didn't see the game, so this is just a guess on my part. The statistics with corner kicks and goal kicks would confirm it.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 19, 2022, 04:22:37 PM

A late goal gave Ajax a narrow 0:1 win today. Ajax had an overwhelming 73% of the ball, but they scored in minute 81 to extend their lead. PSV and Feyenoord now have to follow suit to stay in the race for the title, even though it is almost hopeless to challenge Ajax for the title.

Ajax indeed only just won, but those victories also suffered. At one point I even saw a ball occupied for Ajax of 75% against 25% of Willem 2. It will make little difference to Ajax that they hadn't won big. It was also very bad weather at Willem 2 in the Netherlands, it was not that easy. And another disallowed goal. Ajax is by far the strongest team in the Netherlands, and that goal difference is also impressive.

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A late goal gave Ajax a narrow 0:1 win today. Ajax had an overwhelming 73% of the ball, but they scored in minute 81 to extend their lead. PSV and Feyenoord now have to follow suit to stay in the race for the title, even though it is almost hopeless to challenge Ajax for the title.

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Quote from: mv1986 on February 13, 2022, 03:03:43 PM

It is almost ridiculous to be honest how Ajax is performing in the Eredivisie. Another 5-0 to their books, now making it 69 to 5 goals, lol. That must certainly be a record in the history of the league after 22 games. Scoring more than 3 goals per game and conceding one all 4.4 games Cheesy

If the Ajax goal machine continues like this, they could possibly score a total of 100 goals this season. You can't imagine it when you think about it, 100 goals scored and maybe only 10 scored, that would be a record that would be hard to break in the future.

Quote from: Pulsar77 on February 13, 2022, 03:43:11 PM

There were some great games this week. Firstly, PSV played against Vitesse in an away game and obliterated them by 5-0. Vitesse were one of the decent teams of this season too but PSV didn't care about it even a little. They needed this win so bad and this score must have boosted their morale a lot now. And Ajax answered them in the same way by beating Twente by a huge score like 5-0 again. S. Haller had a great day by making a hat-trick. It is really delightful to watch when Ajax and PSV play like this.

PSV and Ajax are playing very good football at the moment, but I am curious to see how PSV will cope with the double burden, this Thursday UEFA Conference League and on Sunday the league game.

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There were some great games this week. Firstly, PSV played against Vitesse in an away game and obliterated them by 5-0. Vitesse were one of the decent teams of this season too but PSV didn't care about it even a little. They needed this win so bad and this score must have boosted their morale a lot now. And Ajax answered them in the same way by beating Twente by a huge score like 5-0 again. S. Haller had a great day by making a hat-trick. It is really delightful to watch when Ajax and PSV play like this.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 13, 2022, 11:04:49 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on February 13, 2022, 10:35:04 AM

Quote from: Koal-84 on February 12, 2022, 03:33:38 PM

PSV go ahead and after 70 minutes it's already 0:4 for PSV. Well, if PSV go ahead, Ajax will probably follow suit and win their game. Feyenoord should also win to keep up with PSV. It remains exciting.

Yes but I would say that every game now is like a little preliminary match ball for Ajax. If PSV fails one more time and Ajax wins, it is going to be tough for PSV to catch up again as Ajax has one game less. I am still blown away by Ajax' goal statistics this season...

Exactly, PSV must not lose any more games if they want to become champion, the direct duels has been lost by PSV. The game Ajax vs. Twente has just started, and it's still 0:0 but Ajax has a possession of almost 70% and is overwhelmingly superior, I think Ajax will win the game.

It is almost ridiculous to be honest how Ajax is performing in the Eredivisie. Another 5-0 to their books, now making it 69 to 5 goals, lol. That must certainly be a record in the history of the league after 22 games. Scoring more than 3 goals per game and conceding one all 4.4 games Cheesy

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Quote from: casperBGD on February 13, 2022, 02:58:20 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on February 13, 2022, 11:04:49 AM

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I think Ajax will win the game.

good thinking, they won 5:0, there is no short of goals, when Ajax is playing good football
I would like to see more interesting race for title, but I really cannot see any team in Ere that could fight Ajax this season, they are good, but far down from what Ajax is currently playing, would like to see Ajax holding strong in Europe too

The first 3 of the Eredivisie have all won their games, PSV and Ajax both 5:0 also Feyenoord won the game 2:0. For 2nd place it will be exciting but as you wrote I don't think PSV or Feyenoord have a real chance to win the title. Ajax is simply too strong this year, unless they have problems in the league after the Champions League games.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 13, 2022, 11:04:49 AM

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I think Ajax will win the game.

good thinking, they won 5:0, there is no short of goals, when Ajax is playing good football
I would like to see more interesting race for title, but I really cannot see any team in Ere that could fight Ajax this season, they are good, but far down from what Ajax is currently playing, would like to see Ajax holding strong in Europe too

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Quote from: mv1986 on February 13, 2022, 10:35:04 AM

Quote from: Koal-84 on February 12, 2022, 03:33:38 PM

PSV go ahead and after 70 minutes it's already 0:4 for PSV. Well, if PSV go ahead, Ajax will probably follow suit and win their game. Feyenoord should also win to keep up with PSV. It remains exciting.

Yes but I would say that every game now is like a little preliminary match ball for Ajax. If PSV fails one more time and Ajax wins, it is going to be tough for PSV to catch up again as Ajax has one game less. I am still blown away by Ajax' goal statistics this season...

Exactly, PSV must not lose any more games if they want to become champion, the direct duels has been lost by PSV. The game Ajax vs. Twente has just started, and it's still 0:0 but Ajax has a possession of almost 70% and is overwhelmingly superior, I think Ajax will win the game.

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