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legendary
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GPG is cool too but what about just a Secp256k1 signature like the original trezor does? You know, on the "sign and verify" tab of wallet.trezor.io?

Oh, I thought you were talking about GPG all the time, my bad. Touchscreen works great, I don't have to use a lot of pressure - it feels just like a smartphone. On the video you might notice some black lines, this issue has been already reported here. My hand was shaking a bit, I'm not used to recording using only one hand. Before making this video, I have changed my PIN and decided to use different passphrase. It was difficult for me to type in a passphrase because I usually hold the device in my hand, it is much more comfortable.

Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuhDUj4JqGk&feature=youtu.be

Well it wasn't the answer I was hoping for but it is the answer to my question. Thank you.

For anyone who doesnt feel like watching the whole video, the trezor model T does not appear to improve upon the message signing capabilities of the original trezor in any way.

Message me a bitcoin or monero address. Which ever you prefer.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3132
GPG is cool too but what about just a Secp256k1 signature like the original trezor does? You know, on the "sign and verify" tab of wallet.trezor.io?

Oh, I thought you were talking about GPG all the time, my bad. Touchscreen works great, I don't have to use a lot of pressure - it feels just like a smartphone. On the video you might notice some black lines, this issue has been already reported here. My hand was shaking a bit, I'm not used to recording using only one hand. Before making this video, I have changed my PIN and decided to use different passphrase. It was difficult for me to type in a passphrase because I usually hold the device in my hand, it is much more comfortable.

Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuhDUj4JqGk&feature=youtu.be
legendary
Activity: 1722
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Hm. I guess I'm a bit interested in your appraisal of how the touch screen feels when you use it. Is it responsive? Is it too responsive? Does it ever fail to receive intended commands, go off when you didn't intend to, or on buttons you didn't intend to push? Stuff like that.

Unfortunately, it seems that there is an issue with communication between TREZOR device and software. Wallet created by TREZOR works great but both Electrum and trezor-agent, which I need to use GPG, don't detect my wallet. We have to wait for someone to check the code and tell us whether it's a TREZOR or a software fault. Does anyone here also can't use Electrum? It just hangs after choosing to scan for any hardware wallet.

GPG is cool too but what about just a Secp256k1 signature like the original trezor does? You know, on the "sign and verify" tab of wallet.trezor.io?
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3132
Hm. I guess I'm a bit interested in your appraisal of how the touch screen feels when you use it. Is it responsive? Is it too responsive? Does it ever fail to receive intended commands, go off when you didn't intend to, or on buttons you didn't intend to push? Stuff like that.

Unfortunately, it seems that there is an issue with communication between TREZOR device and software. Wallet created by TREZOR works great but both Electrum and trezor-agent, which I need to use GPG, don't detect my wallet. We have to wait for someone to check the code and tell us whether it's a TREZOR or a software fault. Does anyone here also can't use Electrum? It just hangs after choosing to scan for any hardware wallet.

I am almost certain that this screen will be one more point of possible failures, also it's more pricey than the old screen.

I have ordered T model instead of regular one because of newer hardware and SD-card slot that could be the  main reason why this model will probably be able to hold many more wallets when they become supported.

The device is really convenient but as you mentioned there might be some problems with the touchscreen. So far, I have seen only one report where user was able to type but holding, which is needed for example to confirm sending transaction or wiping the device, wouldn't work. By the way, did you get your device? Which batch were you in?
full member
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I am almost certain that this screen will be one more point of possible failures, also it's more pricey than the old screen.

I have ordered T model instead of regular one because of newer hardware and SD-card slot that could be the  main reason why this model will probably be able to hold many more wallets when they become supported.

It would be great if they would refresh the old model with SD-card slot and newer CPU but without touch screen.
Thy will probably take that path next if this model becomes burden with screen failures.


legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
Here you go. [...]

Thanks, I'll try to make a video for you tomorrow. Where do you want me to upload the video? Are you okay with Youtube? Is there anything else you would like to see? It will be much easier to include everything in one video.

Yes youtube would be great.

Hm. I guess I'm a bit interested in your appraisal of how the touch screen feels when you use it. Is it responsive? Is it too responsive? Does it ever fail to receive intended commands, go off when you didn't intend to, or on buttons you didn't intend to push? Stuff like that.

Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3132
Here you go. [...]

Thanks, I'll try to make a video for you tomorrow. Where do you want me to upload the video? Are you okay with Youtube? Is there anything else you would like to see? It will be much easier to include everything in one video.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
Also I would really like to see a video showing what the process is like for digitally signing a longish document on the trezor model t. Or does the model t still have a character limit on digitally signed text? As far as I can surmise, the ability to digitally sign a long document like a standard legal contract is the only real advantage over the original trezor. I would be willing to send a five dollar tip to anyone who makes this for me.

Also I would be interested to know If anyone has any other reasons why the model t is preferable to them over the original. Yes, I am searching for a reason to buy a new toy!

I received my TREZOR T yesterday (thread). I can do this for you, please PM me an example document if you have one. I still haven't set up GPG for my TREZOR but it will be a good chance to do so Smiley

Here you go.

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legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3132
Also I would really like to see a video showing what the process is like for digitally signing a longish document on the trezor model t. Or does the model t still have a character limit on digitally signed text? As far as I can surmise, the ability to digitally sign a long document like a standard legal contract is the only real advantage over the original trezor. I would be willing to send a five dollar tip to anyone who makes this for me.

Also I would be interested to know If anyone has any other reasons why the model t is preferable to them over the original. Yes, I am searching for a reason to buy a new toy!

I received my TREZOR T yesterday (thread). I can do this for you, please PM me an example document if you have one. I still haven't set up GPG for my TREZOR but it will be a good chance to do so Smiley

Does anyone know if there is any way to build custom transactions? I want to control exactly which addresses are used as inputs and I want to control what address the change is going to. Mostly though, the change address is the important part, so that I don't inadvertently link my addresses together.

TREZOR does not support coin control, yet. As far as I know from their Telegram and Reddit, it is a planned feature. Right now, you can control your coins using Electrum. If you don't want to link your identities, you should use different accounts.

Also typing it on the screen is probably less secure. Easier for someone to see where you are placing your thumbs. Or does it scramble it on there too?

Using built-in screen is much more secure because you type everything (passphrase, PIN, seed words) on the device itself, keyloggers can't do any harm. PIN scrambles every time you power on the device. Who use their hardware wallet in a public place anyway?

With modell T you can type the passphrase on the trezor touchscreen instead on the computer keyboard.

Actually, TREZOR asks you whether you want to type it on the device's screen or on host's. I can post a photo with that screen if you want.

If anyone has any questions regarding TREZOR model T, please visit my thread since I will be checking it more often.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 3507
Crypto Swap Exchange
Would you describe how a standard transaction would take place?
Do I have to plug it into a PC? Do I need extra software?

It's very easy to use. Google chrome is enough. Also you can use paired with your mobile device.
basic advantage of Trezor wallet is where you can use it and with it malware infected pc.
I am very satisfied with Trezor, I'm just sorry about it right after i am buy this wallet they relase new improved version.
sr. member
Activity: 588
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Would you describe how a standard transaction would take place?
Do I have to plug it into a PC? Do I need extra software?

read !
https://doc.satoshilabs.com/trezor-faq/
hero member
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Also I would really like to see a video showing what the process is like for digitally signing a longish document on the trezor model t. Or does the model t still have a character limit on digitally signed text? As far as I can surmise, the ability to digitally sign a long document like a standard legal contract is the only real advantage over the original trezor. I would be willing to send a five dollar tip to anyone who makes this for me.

Also I would be interested to know If anyone has any other reasons why the model t is preferable to them over the original. Yes, I am searching for a reason to buy a new toy!

With modell T you can type the passphrase on the trezor touchscreen instead on the computer keyboard.

It's easier to use the number pad. I can probably type it twice as quickly with the number pad. Also typing it on the screen is probably less secure. Easier for someone to see where you are placing your thumbs. Or does it scramble it on there too?

It is not about the pin, but the second passphrase for logging into different accounts.

If your seed is compromised and somebody installs a keylogger on your computer, your coins are gone.

legendary
Activity: 1722
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Also I would really like to see a video showing what the process is like for digitally signing a longish document on the trezor model t. Or does the model t still have a character limit on digitally signed text? As far as I can surmise, the ability to digitally sign a long document like a standard legal contract is the only real advantage over the original trezor. I would be willing to send a five dollar tip to anyone who makes this for me.

Also I would be interested to know If anyone has any other reasons why the model t is preferable to them over the original. Yes, I am searching for a reason to buy a new toy!

With modell T you can type the passphrase on the trezor touchscreen instead on the computer keyboard.

It's easier to use the number pad. I can probably type it twice as quickly with the number pad. Also typing it on the screen is probably less secure. Easier for someone to see where you are placing your thumbs. Or does it scramble it on there too?
hero member
Activity: 964
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Also I would really like to see a video showing what the process is like for digitally signing a longish document on the trezor model t. Or does the model t still have a character limit on digitally signed text? As far as I can surmise, the ability to digitally sign a long document like a standard legal contract is the only real advantage over the original trezor. I would be willing to send a five dollar tip to anyone who makes this for me.

Also I would be interested to know If anyone has any other reasons why the model t is preferable to them over the original. Yes, I am searching for a reason to buy a new toy!

With modell T you can type the passphrase on the trezor touchscreen instead on the computer keyboard.
legendary
Activity: 2646
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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
Also I would really like to see a video showing what the process is like for digitally signing a longish document on the trezor model t. Or does the model t still have a character limit on digitally signed text? As far as I can surmise, the ability to digitally sign a long document like a standard legal contract is the only real advantage over the original trezor. I would be willing to send a five dollar tip to anyone who makes this for me.

Also I would be interested to know If anyone has any other reasons why the model t is preferable to them over the original. Yes, I am searching for a reason to buy a new toy!
When I get mine I will let you know - but it has not arrived yet.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
Also I would really like to see a video showing what the process is like for digitally signing a longish document on the trezor model t. Or does the model t still have a character limit on digitally signed text? As far as I can surmise, the ability to digitally sign a long document like a standard legal contract is the only real advantage over the original trezor. I would be willing to send a five dollar tip to anyone who makes this for me.

Also I would be interested to know If anyone has any other reasons why the model t is preferable to them over the original. Yes, I am searching for a reason to buy a new toy!
full member
Activity: 135
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Zettel-Dolphin
Does anyone know if there is any way to build custom transactions? I want to control exactly which addresses are used as inputs and I want to control what address the change is going to. Mostly though the change address is most important so that I don't inadvertently link my addresses together.

Good question. I would love to know that myself.
newbie
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Ordered my first TREZOR! I'm looking forward to try it. Thank you guys for awesome project!  Wink
newbie
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Wow great project
newbie
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Got my Batch 1 TREZOR T Smiley Did a small first look with an unboxing and comparison to a Trezor One... Thinking of doing a bigger video comparing both

https://youtu.be/gUfm4IZ7icc
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