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Quote from: ralle14 on October 27, 2022, 12:20:29 PM

Quote from: rdbase on October 26, 2022, 07:13:32 AM

Looking at the odds last night, they have Team Aster the favorites by a wider margin against Team Liquid which is surprising.

I honestly think it's accurate since Team Aster took down decent teams so far and they came out on top against Team Liquid in the upper bracket. There might be some value on the side of Team Liquid but I still lean heavily on Team Aster to advance here since most of the remaining teams are from Group B.

That is right. Team Aster 2-0 Team Liquid in the first round of the Upper Bracket. That is probably why they are heavily favored in this match. But personally, I think it will be different this time. They had plenty of rest and time to study their opponents. I believe Team Liquid can disappoint the fans of Team Aster. It is amazing how resilient Team Liquid was in their last match against Thunder Awaken, and they can carry that over to their next match. I think Team Liquid will do anything just to keep Matu playing and if ever, give the best match before he retires. They will not give an easy match to Team Aster.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on October 26, 2022, 09:44:34 AM

Team secret is the best balance team right now and all of the hard work of puppey will come up to the TI champ for this upcoming bet I will go for all in team secret.

I couldn't agree more, they're pretty much set up for the grand finals but we'll see if they made enough changes to beat Tundra this time.

Team Secret and Tundra are the most consistent teams in this TI. They have finished on top of their group and never lost a game in Upper Bracket. They are going strong in this TI. It is possible that whoever loses in this match will come back from the lower bracket and get their revenge in the Finals. The advantage of coming from the Lower Bracket is they will have more games going to the Finals. They will be warmed up before entering the Finals. We've seen a lot of this comeback before.

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Quote from: rdbase on October 26, 2022, 07:13:32 AM

Looking at the odds last night, they have Team Aster the favorites by a wider margin against Team Liquid which is surprising.

I honestly think it's accurate since Team Aster took down decent teams so far and they came out on top against Team Liquid in the upper bracket. There might be some value on the side of Team Liquid but I still lean heavily on Team Aster to advance here since most of the remaining teams are from Group B.

Quote from: Peanutswar on October 26, 2022, 09:44:34 AM

Team secret is the best balance team right now and all of the hard work of puppey will come up to the TI champ for this upcoming bet I will go for all in team secret.

I couldn't agree more, they're pretty much set up for the grand finals but we'll see if they made enough changes to beat Tundra this time.

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Quote from: ralle14 on October 25, 2022, 08:18:19 PM

Quote from: rdbase on October 24, 2022, 05:02:01 AM

Thought Team Spirit was going to get farther in the competition but it looks like Team Secret is the team to beat.
Team Liquid from what I watched of them on and off against OG looks like a solid contender out of the four remaining teams in the tournament.
So just Aster and Tundra with those teams left to compete for next weekend.

I also didn't expect so many top teams to crumble but at the same time, the first few days of the playoffs were so weird since the production wasn't set up properly based on the feedback of the players, and potentially that could've influenced the unexpected amount of upsets.

So far, Team Secret is definitely the expected team to win it all and it's interesting to see that the other two teams came all the way from the last chance qualifier. The one-week break is unusual though, I feel like it could ruin the momentum of Team Secret but it'll help the lower bracket teams to recuperate after the tough series they've been through.

Team Spirit is getting too much confident with their gameplay and become part of the lower bracket afaik there's a trash-talk from Yataro god that he says he don't know what boom is and imagines they are kicked out in the game the defending champion is gone for me Team secret is the best balance team right now and all of the hard work of puppey will come up to the TI champ for this upcoming bet I will go for all in team secret.

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Looking at the odds last night, they have Team Aster the favorites by a wider margin against Team Liquid which is surprising.
Team Tundra are slight favorites against Team Secret seem about right.
These are the playoffs to see who will face each other off in the finals so they should be close.
They can be viewed to see if they deviate closer to the start date over the weekend:
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Quote from: rdbase on October 24, 2022, 05:02:01 AM

Thought Team Spirit was going to get farther in the competition but it looks like Team Secret is the team to beat.
Team Liquid from what I watched of them on and off against OG looks like a solid contender out of the four remaining teams in the tournament.
So just Aster and Tundra with those teams left to compete for next weekend.

I also didn't expect so many top teams to crumble but at the same time, the first few days of the playoffs were so weird since the production wasn't set up properly based on the feedback of the players, and potentially that could've influenced the unexpected amount of upsets.

So far, Team Secret is definitely the expected team to win it all and it's interesting to see that the other two teams came all the way from the last chance qualifier. The one-week break is unusual though, I feel like it could ruin the momentum of Team Secret but it'll help the lower bracket teams to recuperate after the tough series they've been through.

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Quote from: rdbase on October 24, 2022, 05:02:01 AM

Thought Team Spirit was going to get farther in the competition but it looks like Team Secret is the team to beat.
Team Liquid from what I watched of them on and off against OG like like a solid contender out of the four remaining teams in the tournament.
So just Aster and Tundra with those teams left to compete for next weekend.

but for me team secret and team liquid are very strong opponents for tundra esports and team aster.
i saw how to play team secret when against TA didn't even give a chance to win even for a draw.
and i also saw the last game of team liquid against TA when liquid was very fast to conquer TA not exceeding 34 minutes. even though usually every dota 2 game takes 34 minutes more but team liquid doesn't need to take long.
and the possibility that team secret and team liquid will meet in the grand final later

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Quote from: Trofo on October 20, 2022, 11:46:20 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on October 18, 2022, 07:12:14 PM

Tough road for EG in the upper bracket they'll likely face LGD in the next round while Tundra, Aster, OG, and Liquid have the easier path to reach the upper final and lock in third place.

The first set of lower bracket matches are looking deadly though as it's a best of one and the only teams that seems like a clear favorite to me are Fnatic and Team Spirit since Boom looks inconsistent and Fnatic is used to playing the lower brackets.

Well it ended even tougher than expected with them loosing with clean 2:0 against Thunder Awaken, nobody has seen this one coming except strongest TA supporters maybe. And Team Secret continued with good performances and took care of LGD. EG vs. LGS can still happen but in lower bracket if they pass their current opponents and they are big favorites to do so. I wouldn't be suprised if we get lower bracket champion from one of these 2 teams.

Team Spirit also lost and they are out of competition, much sooner than I thought. Good thing I did not have money on my Sportsbet account, would have lost it all on DOTA today Grin

Thought Team Spirit was going to get farther in the competition but it looks like Team Secret is the team to beat.
Team Liquid from what I watched of them on and off against OG looks like a solid contender out of the four remaining teams in the tournament.
So just Aster and Tundra with those teams left to compete for next weekend.

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Quote from: Trofo on October 20, 2022, 11:46:20 AM

Well it ended even tougher than expected with them loosing with clean 2:0 against Thunder Awaken, nobody has seen this one coming except strongest TA supporters maybe.

It's also been said that they've got the advantage by picking who they want to face on the upper bracket and they ended up losing with that choice they've made, too sad for EG. If they don't learn the lesson of being beaten by TA then they should also not be confident against beastcoast tomorrow, another SA team. Last TI, it was a continuous pick of Storm for Abed. During their two matches with TA, they still have picked SF for our boy Arturo and I think if that match got into 3rd game, they'll probably still pick for SF for him. Grin

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Quote from: ralle14 on October 18, 2022, 07:12:14 PM

Tough road for EG in the upper bracket they'll likely face LGD in the next round while Tundra, Aster, OG, and Liquid have the easier path to reach the upper final and lock in third place.

The first set of lower bracket matches are looking deadly though as it's a best of one and the only teams that seems like a clear favorite to me are Fnatic and Team Spirit since Boom looks inconsistent and Fnatic is used to playing the lower brackets.

Well it ended even tougher than expected with them loosing with clean 2:0 against Thunder Awaken, nobody has seen this one coming except strongest TA supporters maybe. And Team Secret continued with good performances and took care of LGD. EG vs. LGS can still happen but in lower bracket if they pass their current opponents and they are big favorites to do so. I wouldn't be suprised if we get lower bracket champion from one of these 2 teams.

Team Spirit also lost and they are out of competition, much sooner than I thought. Good thing I did not have money on my Sportsbet account, would have lost it all on DOTA today Grin

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Tough road for EG in the upper bracket they'll likely face LGD in the next round while Tundra, Aster, OG, and Liquid have the easier path to reach the upper final and lock in third place.

The first set of lower bracket matches are looking deadly though as it's a best of one and the only teams that seems like a clear favorite to me are Fnatic and Team Spirit since Boom looks inconsistent and Fnatic is used to playing the lower brackets.

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Well , I've lost my bets placing them on Talon as I had faith 23 Savage can finally have it's own game to shine but it got blocked by Entity in the elimination games.

After what I saw today I do think Secret , Tundra , Aster and LGD are the strongest teams in tournament and one of these 2 should also win TI ...but lower bracket games should decide this in the next days.

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Place a bet on Team Spirit for the late matches yesterday and managed to get the map 2 correct. Beast coast won the 1st map and it seems that most of the outcomes lately have been the split wins for maps.
Disappointing to see PSG-LGD do so bad losing to Boom.
That was the last day of the final group stages so we are now into the playoffs. Upper brackets and lower brackets have been set.

You can bet on these matches today here:
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Quote from: boltz on October 17, 2022, 03:33:15 AM

It seems PSG.LGD has breached the COVID protocols and they got penalized in games by reducing both picking and banning time ?? :O. This is huge for the deep games when they need extra time to re-think strategy but with time being reduce , they will have to move faster or they end up by random Gyrocopter like Spirit did Grin

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But it did not stop them from sweeping 2 of their matches. They got an easy picking against Boom and RNG defaulted on their second game because of Covid issues as well.

Quote from: boltz on October 17, 2022, 03:33:15 AM

Also , Somnus for RNG is sick and he's being isolated right now ... man...this is not what I've expected from day 3.

I think the whole team of RNG is now sick with Covid. I wonder how this will affect them in the next stage of the tournament. It is clear it already affected them today. They dropped 6 games in today's matches. They were at the top yesterday and now are in the lower bracket. It is a bad day for the Chinese teams.

Quote from: boltz on October 17, 2022, 03:33:15 AM

EDIT 1 : and now problems for Liquid Matu ?? what is going on ? Sad

I am not aware of this issue. What is the problem with Matu? He performed very well in their last match today against Boom Esports. They even swept the match 2-0. If there is any issue or problem with Matu, it is not evident. He was dominating in that game.

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It seems PSG.LGD has breached the COVID protocols and they got penalized in games by reducing both picking and banning time ?? :O. This is huge for the deep games when they need extra time to re-think strategy but with time being reduce , they will have to move faster or they end up by random Gyrocopter like Spirit did Grin

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Also , Somnus for RNG is sick and he's being isolated right now ... man...this is not what I've expected from day 3.

EDIT 1 : and now problems for Liquid Matu ?? what is going on ? Sad

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This might be the reason why for the lack luster performance from PSG-LGD from the beginning of the international so far.
I don't think they will recover their dominance going into the next stage.
Especially with the penalties received and players getting demotions.

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All of the Chinese teams seem to have a nearly perfect day 2 only dropping one map at the very least. We might see the first four teams tomorrow that could potentially go to the upper bracket since three of the last four series from Group A are scheduled for day 3.

Earlier I saw this bad news for PSG.LGD posted on Reddit as they'll be receiving a penalty (reduced draft time and dire/radiant side selection) in all their day 3 games due to failing to report their covid test in time.

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Quote from: rdbase on October 16, 2022, 05:34:10 AM

Quote from: boltz on October 15, 2022, 08:46:43 PM

Day 2 is about to begin ! Who's awake with me from EU at this hour hehe ? Hoping for a great day of Dota 2 games and patiently waiting for team Secret game but also EG and Tundra.

Regarding PSG ...I don't know man ...this is not their meta...

Wasn't awake to watch the earlier matches but from the posts on here looks like PSG-LGD have found their groove back into this tournament with a 2-0 start for today.
For me I just got up to catch the end of map1 of Boom Esports vs BetBoom.
Looking like Boom will win, but not too familiar with these teams so don't know if it will end in a draw.
Like so many that Team Spirit have had in their previous matches so far end up as their result.
Think they only had one 2-0 victory in the tournament but that was against Entity.

You should watch some of the highlights Grin

Entity...so solid! I won't sleep on this team when they play and they have a game in about 15 minutes against FNATIC. Also , they hold Aster on rosh for almost 4 minute during the kite and manage to complete a huge comeback that won them the game Shocked

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Quote from: boltz on October 15, 2022, 08:46:43 PM

Day 2 is about to begin ! Who's awake with me from EU at this hour hehe ? Hoping for a great day of Dota 2 games and patiently waiting for team Secret game but also EG and Tundra.

Regarding PSG ...I don't know man ...this is not their meta...

Wasn't awake to watch the earlier matches but from the posts on here looks like PSG-LGD have found their groove back into this tournament with a 2-0 start for today.
For me I just got up to catch the end of map1 of Boom Esports vs BetBoom.
Looking like Boom will win, but not too familiar with these teams so don't know if it will end in a draw.
Like so many that Team Spirit have had in their previous matches so far end up as their result.
Think they only had one 2-0 victory in the tournament but that was against Entity.

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Yep. I've spoke way to earlier about them as they just went and demolished OG with a clean victory of 2-0. Even more , OG didn't even gather 15 kills in both games against PSG.LGD so this tells us that PSG has a big package of drafts and strategies ready to be tested on TI when OG needs the same heroes every game in order to function on high level. Grin

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Quote from: boltz on October 15, 2022, 08:46:43 PM

Regarding PSG ...I don't know man ...this is not their meta...

It is too early in the tournament, let's see as the tournament progresses if they will be able to recover from their bad start. They are currently playing against OG. This is a good measurement of how far they will go in this tournament since OG is one of the teams they might face in the latter part of TI. If they can beat or at least take a draw from OG, then they still have a decent chance to make it to the upper bracket. It will look bad for them though if they lose against OG since there are few teams left that they could beat.

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