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Quote from: passwordnow on July 03, 2023, 03:10:52 PM

Group stages are now done and we've got some tiebreakers for the Bali major Dota 2. There is no longer a SEA representative that's going to continue for the playoffs and that's gonna happen on July 5 starting with the upper bracket then the loser's bracket next.
While some of these teams are already qualified for the TI, it's still a different experience by being serious on this major because there's still the DPC points that other teams should chase and at the same time the prize.

That's expected for the SEA teams since they've been consistently bombing out early aside from Talon who can put up good results on a good day.

Quote from: sunsilk on July 03, 2023, 04:23:11 PM

Still, they've ended being eliminated by Azure Ray through a tiebreaker. I think they haven't noticed the points system when there's Azure Ray beaten nouns 2-0.

If only Bleed won just 1 game against 9Pandas, they're in for the playoffs.

It's also the worst way to get eliminated and on the other tiebreaker match, Blacklist fell short against Shopify.

The playoff bracket is already out, and for the third time, we might see another Team Liquid vs Gaimin Gladiators finals because they're both on the opposite side of the upper bracket and will likely cruise through the upper final.

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Interesting things are happening for Natus Vincere team in CS:GO. There has been a serious level of decline in their performance for a long time. All the things have started with the search of a solid in-game leader. And now they have decided to nearly rebuild the team. Because only s1mple and b1t are kept in the team. The rest of the players have been replaced with international players.

This isn't the kind of an action you would think Natus Vincere would take normally. But this is a big step forward for them. According to the fresh news about the new roster electroNic, Perfecto and npl have been replaced with iM, jL and Aleksib.

They might need some time before playing coherently though. But it feels like this roster will be way better than before.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 02, 2023, 09:17:15 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on July 02, 2023, 07:43:51 PM

As for shopify rebellion, they no longer have a match today so their fate is in the hands of these three remaining teams. Blacklist, Execration and IG.

If there's a team that gets a 2-0 for this upcoming last day, there will be a tie breaker with them. But lucky if all of these teams gets 1-1, they are secured on low bracket for the playoffs.

The bad part for those three teams is two of them are facing each other, while Execration will only get a map at best against Team Spirit because Team Spirit needs a 2-0 as well to force a tiebreaker for the upper bracket spot.

Exe is now eliminated and Team Spirit goes to the lower bracket.

Quote from: ralle14 on July 02, 2023, 09:17:15 PM

Also good to see Bleed Esports crawling their way up and might even have a chance at a top 4 finish in their groups.

Still, they've ended being eliminated by Azure Ray through a tiebreaker. I think they haven't noticed the points system when there's Azure Ray beaten nouns 2-0.

If only Bleed won just 1 game against 9Pandas, they're in for the playoffs.

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Group stages are now done and we've got some tiebreakers for the Bali major Dota 2. There is no longer a SEA representative that's going to continue for the playoffs and that's gonna happen on July 5 starting with the upper bracket then the loser's bracket next.
While some of these teams are already qualified for the TI, it's still a different experience by being serious on this major because there's still the DPC points that other teams should chase and at the same time the prize.

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Quote from: boltz on July 01, 2023, 07:03:59 PM

I think this is the first major where EG is really doing bad ...like this bad : 0-1-5. That is their record right now in Bali Major and if they manage to find a way to get good drafts and get out of their comfort picks , I don't think they will have great chances at TI. Same goes for Shopify as this 2 teams are like twins because whenever a team is doing bad , the other will follow Grin

...I guess they still share the same EG blood after all.

I guess the health problem that their captain had at the start of the tournament really affected the team as well.

Also good to see Bleed Esports crawling their way up and might even have a chance at a top 4 finish in their groups.

Quote from: sunsilk on July 02, 2023, 07:43:51 PM

As for shopify rebellion, they no longer have a match today so their fate is in the hands of these three remaining teams. Blacklist, Execration and IG.

If there's a team that gets a 2-0 for this upcoming last day, there will be a tie breaker with them. But lucky if all of these teams gets 1-1, they are secured on low bracket for the playoffs.

The bad part for those three teams is two of them are facing each other, while Execration will only get a map at best against Team Spirit because Team Spirit needs a 2-0 as well to force a tiebreaker for the upper bracket spot.

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Quote from: boltz on July 01, 2023, 07:03:59 PM

I think this is the first major where EG is really doing bad ...like this bad : 0-1-5. That is their record right now in Bali Major and if they manage to find a way to get good drafts and get out of their comfort picks , I don't think they will have great chances at TI. Same goes for Shopify as this 2 teams are like twins because whenever a team is doing bad , the other will follow Grin

...I guess they still share the same EG blood after all.

I even thought that they'll perform better than beastcoast. But this is what the unexpected comes in every tournament and in TI, we'll never know which team that shall be out too early. And then, there will always be the ones that should be out.

As for shopify rebellion, they no longer have a match today so their fate is in the hands of these three remaining teams. Blacklist, Execration and IG.

If there's a team that gets a 2-0 for this upcoming last day, there will be a tie breaker with them. But lucky if all of these teams gets 1-1, they are secured on low bracket for the playoffs.

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Quote from: boltz on July 01, 2023, 07:03:59 PM

I think this is the first major where EG is really doing bad ...like this bad : 0-1-5. That is their record right now in Bali Major and if they manage to find a way to get good drafts and get out of their comfort picks , I don't think they will have great chances at TI. Same goes for Shopify as this 2 teams are like twins because whenever a team is doing bad , the other will follow Grin

...I guess they still share the same EG blood after all.

yeah, they are at their lowest in this tournament. They are now out of the competition since they are sitting at the bottom of Group B with a record of 0-3-5. At least for SR, they won against IG yesterday so they still have a chance to qualify for the lower bracket.

Quote from: boltz on July 01, 2023, 07:03:59 PM

Meanwhile , Quest is most likely the team who only a few of us believed in them but they are currently leading Group B and already qualified for upper bracket and if they somehow win this Major or at least get top 3, they will have a real chance for TI qualifiers as top 3 gets around 600 DPC points and will accumulate a total of 732 ( 500 for top 3 and they already have 232 dpc points ). And same goes for Nouns but I don't see them having a blast Major like Quest.

It is too early to tell. It is still the group stage and mostly, teams step up when they are on the bracket. For now, I am sure some good teams are still gauging up the competition.

Quest can be good, but they have a lot of good teams to deal with in order to finish top 3. At how they are performing, they can at least finish top 8, which guarantees them 300 dpc points. Hopefully they finish higher because we all like to see new teams qualify for TI.

As for nouns, they have fallen the rank. They are now bottom 2 with 1-3-3. It is still possible that they finish in a tie breaker, but it is very slim.

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I think this is the first major where EG is really doing bad ...like this bad : 0-1-5. That is their record right now in Bali Major and if they manage to find a way to get good drafts and get out of their comfort picks , I don't think they will have great chances at TI. Same goes for Shopify as this 2 teams are like twins because whenever a team is doing bad , the other will follow Grin

...I guess they still share the same EG blood after all.

Meanwhile , Quest is most likely the team who only a few of us believed in them but they are currently leading Group B and already qualified for upper bracket and if they somehow win this Major or at least get top 3, they will have a real chance for TI qualifiers as top 3 gets around 600 DPC points and will accumulate a total of 732 ( 500 for top 3 and they already have 232 dpc points ). And same goes for Nouns but I don't see them having a blast Major like Quest.

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Quote from: Wapfika on June 30, 2023, 06:30:33 AM

It's very tough for teams on Group B to have a dominance or to qualified. I think betting on Draw result is still the best pick for all matches if you want to be in profit on group stage.

I’m having the time of my life betting on both team to score or +1.5 on under dog teams since last tournaments. First round group stage is always like a this that full of tie matches because team are typically measuring each other fo the strategy that will work. The next stage is more on sweep especially the quarter and semi finals since the team usually familiar on each team strategy and how to counter them.

I’m surpised how GG manage to come back and win the last tournament against BB. Now they are already back with their perfect form since they are already dominating again their group. I will go draw on most of matches that will not involved GG. This is the key to be profitable on Dta2 bettin in my ipinion.

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Quote from: Wapfika on June 30, 2023, 06:30:33 AM

What really surprised me is the assignment of team on Group Stage. Most of the team on Group A are those team that didn't participate/early knock out on previous Dreamleague tournament while Group B are those team that dominate the Dreamleague and go to the second stage of the tournament. Group B teams are very strong while Group A will surely be dominated of Team Liquid since the majority of teams there is weak.

It's very tough for teams on Group B to have a dominance or to qualified. I think betting on Draw result is still the best pick for all matches if you want to be in profit on group stage.

The same can be said for Group A in terms of making it out of the groups because the teams from 2nd to 6th are only a few wins apart, aside from Team Liquid.

The teams in Group A still prefer to split a map win, so it's a good time to ride on the 1-1 trend until it falls, while in Group B, the 2-0's might be the better option since the top three teams (Quest, BetBoom, and Gaimin) won't settle with a draw.

Quote from: boltz on June 30, 2023, 06:22:37 AM

This Major is actually fun to watch but not fun to gamble and I'm glad I don't have any spare money right now to bet in this Major because most likely I would have lost all my money haha. Hard to guess drafts , new teams that I didn't have a single game from them even if I know the players and a lot of other factors that makes this major very hard to guess on gambling.

These best of 2s are difficult to read since a couple of teams are falling off and the odds are becoming less valuable after experiencing the same format on DreamLeague a few weeks ago.

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Quote from: boltz on June 30, 2023, 06:22:37 AM

Quote from: rdbase on June 30, 2023, 06:14:54 AM

Bali Majors keeping everyone with indepth play of dota2 before the next huge tournament begins for the Riyadh Masters next month?
This seems just as big for the esports community as Wimbledon is for the tennis world in the summertime. Cool

This Major is actually fun to watch but not fun to gamble and I'm glad I don't have any spare money right now to bet in this Major because most likely I would have lost all my money haha. Hard to guess drafts , new teams that I didn't have a single game from them even if I know the players and a lot of other factors that makes this major very hard to guess on gambling. Besides GG and Liquid who already have low odds , no other team is performing on high level and we can see trows from 9pandas at 1.02 odds and other shady games Grin

. Even the viewers on twitch are mad but the views are so low when we have Major in Asia or NA because most of the viewers are from Europe and Russia.

You're right , summer major always had a special place in Dota 2 community but I would have prefer to have it in Europe.

What really surprised me is the assignment of team on Group Stage. Most of the team on Group A are those team that didn't participate/early knock out on previous Dreamleague tournament while Group B are those team that dominate the Dreamleague and go to the second stage of the tournament. Group B teams are very strong while Group A will surely be dominated of Team Liquid since the majority of teams there is weak.

It's very tough for teams on Group B to have a dominance or to qualified. I think betting on Draw result is still the best pick for all matches if you want to be in profit on group stage.

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Quote from: rdbase on June 30, 2023, 06:14:54 AM

Bali Majors keeping everyone with indepth play of dota2 before the next huge tournament begins for the Riyadh Masters next month?
This seems just as big for the esports community as Wimbledon is for the tennis world in the summertime. Cool

This Major is actually fun to watch but not fun to gamble and I'm glad I don't have any spare money right now to bet in this Major because most likely I would have lost all my money haha. Hard to guess drafts , new teams that I didn't have a single game from them even if I know the players and a lot of other factors that makes this major very hard to guess on gambling. Besides GG and Liquid who already have low odds , no other team is performing on high level and we can see trows from 9pandas at 1.02 odds and other shady games Grin

. Even the viewers on twitch are mad but the views are so low when we have Major in Asia or NA because most of the viewers are from Europe and Russia.

You're right , summer major always had a special place in Dota 2 community but I would have prefer to have it in Europe.

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Bali Majors keeping everyone with indepth play of dota2 before the next huge tournament begins for the Riyadh Masters next month?
This seems just as big for the esports community as Wimbledon is for the tennis world in the summertime. Cool

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Quote from: rdbase on June 29, 2023, 07:52:05 AM

^^
Just was looking to see if there were any tournaments in dota going on before the next one begins on July 11th and did notice there was the Bali majors.
Got up too late so to see any of the actions but according to @boltz it seemed like a long battle went on.
Will probably see which the next matches are and might put in a small bet later on today for this tournament.

2 hours and 16 minutes was the game between GG and Quest and somehow Quest did a mega creep comeback and won the game with 81k networth difference and a lot of rapiers were on the ground at some point Grin

which simply made the game very awesome to watch but very stressing for the players even if they all had buybacks all the time.

Too bad the Major is really up in the morning like 5AM here in my country and I cannot wake up at that hour just to watch dota and them also be able to work in the noon but last 2 series can be watchable as the hour is ok for Europe as well.

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It's unusual to see EG already down 0-4 against teams they shouldn't be losing two games in a row while beastcoast is doing okay against the tougher teams in the other group.

The SEA teams are already sitting at the bottom as well and I think they're the first few teams to get eliminated unless they go 2-0 in one of their two series tomorrow.

Nouns and Quest with a surprisingly good start, as I thought they were only good to win a map each series.

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^^
Just was looking to see if there were any tournaments in dota going on before the next one begins on July 11th and did notice there was the Bali majors.
Got up too late so to see any of the actions but according to @boltz it seemed like a long battle went on.
Will probably see which the next matches are and might put in a small bet later on today for this tournament.

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What a game we have in Dota 2 right now with GG and Quest fighting in Bali Major with first map being already over 105 minutes which is beyond crazy for this patch. I'm watching and Chen has double rapier on him with full carry items and his damage is over 1k hahaha Shocked

. This game might go towards 130 minutes and if we have 2 hours game ...in a PRO MAJOR , it will go down in history book as one of the longest game in Dota 2 Pro history.

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I believe it all depends on the venue these tournaments take place is the defining factor to the amounts of these prize pools. And of course the sponsorships who the Saudis are probably funding it in someway or another just for the exposure of the esports fans around the globe who will be tuning in to watch this numbering in the millions.
So of course they will be having local hotels, airlines and product lines be flashing their corporate presence during the timeouts and the technical delays.

Last week I had noticed Sportsbet.io had a slot featuring a CS:GO team they have been a shirt sponsor of for a few years now.
So I decided to give it a try.
Here are the screenshots I had took during my gameplay:

Of course this team member had just signed a deal to join up with Furia Grin

It was really fun as you get to choose an open box experience. I walked away with some profit but it was really fun.

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Quote from: rdbase on June 27, 2023, 07:34:50 AM

Riyadh Masters has a huge prize for 1st place and looking at the liquidpedia for DOTA2 the prize pool for the entire tournament is a whooping $15 million.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2022 - $4,000,000 total
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2023 - $15,000,000 total spread among places 1-20

That arabian money is really serious into Esports now.

From $4 million to $15 million is a big step up, it's almost close to the prize pool of the previous TI, and they have a better prize distribution for the lower placements.

It might even beat the prize pool of this year's TI since Valve mentioned they're moving away from the battle pass system that we're always expecting in the middle of the year, but they still plan to release an update that will fund the prize pool.

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Riyadh Masters has a huge prize for 1st place and looking at the liquidpedia for DOTA2 the prize pool for the entire tournament is a whooping $15 million.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2022 - $4,000,000 total
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2023 - $15,000,000 total spread among places 1-20

That arabian money is really serious into Esports now.

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