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Quote from: jakelyson on April 16, 2023, 05:47:23 PM

TSM have a chance to win against EG earlier and take a good spot in the ranking but 1 high ground mistake and EG took the lead against TSM and eventually won the third map. EG took their time and hit the late-game timings to win with their peculiar draft. Good job for EG.

Here's the latest ranking for DreamLeague 19.

however TSM is currently in very good form but EG is smarter in the match.
on the other hand what I see is Tundra and Team Liquid. these two teams seem to have a good opportunity and performance to take on and replace EG's position.
although I'm not so sure, I only hope that Nisha can bring the Liquid team to win the DreamLeague 19.
in the next match Team Liquid will face EG and the bookie is Team Liquid's favourite, this is a bit of proof that it is likely that in the next match Liquid will win the match.

and for this match I took the opportunity to odds a map over 2.5
even though Team Liquid is known for playing fast but in my opinion this will be a rather long match because EG is also one of the very good teams capable of bringing the match to map 3.
maybe I'm too brave to take this risk but sometimes the dealer is unpredictable.

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 16, 2023, 08:51:03 PM

Surprising loss from Old.G, giving Puckchamps their first win in this season Div II. They have taken games off of teams and taken the matches into game 3, but never managed to win, until today. Div II WEU is so stacked. Team Secret, Alliance, Hustlers and Old G.

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Team Secret successfully took out Ancient Tribe 2-0 on the back of Armel's impressive performance, they only have two series left and one of the series is still against OG, if they win that in the final week then I think they're likely going back to Div 1.

Old G, on the other hand, got their third loss against a bottom dwelling team like PuckChamp who hasn't got a single win before this series and that means they can't reach the promotion spot anymore.

D2Hustlers are still the only team without a series loss now they're 4-0 after their win against Alliance, they can secure the other promotion spot if they win 2 of their 3 remaining series.

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TSM have a chance to win against EG earlier and take a good spot in the ranking but 1 high ground mistake and EG took the lead against TSM and eventually won the third map. EG took their time and hit the late-game timings to win with their peculiar draft. Good job for EG.

Here's the latest ranking for DreamLeague 19.

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Quote from: jakelyson on April 15, 2023, 12:26:57 PM

Quote from: boyptc on April 14, 2023, 06:04:54 PM

Let's just stop the thought that someone is able to lift the team entirely. Yes, individually, there are talented players that seems to shine out every match but it's not just all about them. Let us not ignore the other players that becomes key based on their plays and momentum. We don't see a pos 5 lifting a team even if he plays the best and it's visible in the eyes of many players.

But sometimes there are players that just become a key component for a team to start winning. Just like what happened to Team Secret last year. They are bad the whole season but they added Reso and suddenly they are playing in the Grand Finals in TI.

I agree with that. Some key players added and the impact is visible with the performance of the whole team.

I'd still say that it's the whole team's effort and performance that makes the game won. I think this is just on my perspective since we've got all have.

It's a team game and that just makes me more impressed to those teams that are balance and shows how good they are in team playing and one of it is being comfortable to each other and as well as the communication.

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Two days has passed for the Group Stage 2 of Dream League. There are still 5 days left but it's just so fun to see the current standings that the remaining teams are.

It doesn't determine yet anything but I think when April 18 matches are done, we'll get to see some shed on who are those teams that will proceed to the playoffs since only 4 of them will proceed there.

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Faze became the last team to qualify for the challengers stage by defeating C9 in the final match.I was expecting faze to come out of these 6 teams and that's what happened.It's bad for them to fall this far, but I think they will recover after this.It should be said that they made an excellent comeback on the Mirage map.13-4 they won the match 19-15 and after that cloud 9 might have already been in a morally collapsed state because this map was the map that C9 chose.I can say that they played well as a team Faze team.The performances of sh1ro and ax1le in C9 were not enough to win.

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Just watched the game between Tundra and Team Liquid. I think Team Liquid is really doing good this year. They needed 3 maps to beat Tundra but you can clearly see that they are dominating in the maps they won.

Will take a risk on Beastcoast winning their match later against TSM.

Quote from: boyptc on April 14, 2023, 06:04:54 PM

Let's just stop the thought that someone is able to lift the team entirely. Yes, individually, there are talented players that seems to shine out every match but it's not just all about them. Let us not ignore the other players that becomes key based on their plays and momentum. We don't see a pos 5 lifting a team even if he plays the best and it's visible in the eyes of many players.

But sometimes there are players that just become a key component for a team to start winning. Just like what happened to Team Secret last year. They are bad the whole season but they added Reso and suddenly they are playing in the Grand Finals in TI.

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Quote from: DevilSlayer on April 14, 2023, 04:15:04 AM

The players of Nigma are now weak. I literally mean it because there are now a lot of young players who are stronger and plays better than them, I know that they won a TI before but this time is different. They are always behind in their respective lanes and Sumail and Miracle cannot lift them anymore because the support players are not that good unlike before. I also saw Miracle struggling in laning stage and that is why they have been eliminated in the DreamLeague. Hoping that Miracle and Sumail should not yet stop playing dota and the Nigma should change the roster by kicking GH and Kuroky. I know that they are the old players but their skill is not that good. For me they are the weakest link in the team Nigma. Look at the top teams nowadays, when they saw a weak link or a player that always been struggling in all stages, they will kick it and replace it with a better player. Still props to them because they won a TI but it is the time for the supports of Nigma to change. If they do it, for sure we will see a drastic performance when they play again.

Let's just stop the thought that someone is able to lift the team entirely. Yes, individually, there are talented players that seems to shine out every match but it's not just all about them. Let us not ignore the other players that becomes key based on their plays and momentum. We don't see a pos 5 lifting a team even if he plays the best and it's visible in the eyes of many players.

But we only see the carries, mid lanes and off laners that are being recognized of lifting teams. Well, they're noticeable but Dota 2 these days are more of a team game. Nigma and its rosters are quite old already but I know that they're trying hard and I'm with you having that opinion that there are other younger talents that they can scout and have them replaced.

They're no longer in their prime and it's sad to accept that when they've got ego issues, likely. However, you can't stop someone's passion over the game just like our very old good guy, Dendi.

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Quote from: Balmain on April 14, 2023, 05:09:46 PM

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Eternal Fire lost their last chance.Eternal Fire lost despite having a close match on the map chosen by aurora.They lost 19-15 on the Mirage map and fell behind 1-0.The second map was the anubis map chosen by EF.EF won the match with a nice comeback on T Side, brought the situation to 1-1 and went to the decider map. I can say that taking the Pistol round on the decider map and detonating the bomb with milliseconds was perhaps the breaking moment of the match.EF did not improve their game much, but if they had solved the bomb there, maybe we could be talking about different things right now.

The return on the Anubis map was very good, they could have won in the inferno map with the momentum they got from there, we can say that Imorr played a lot extra and the comeback was thanks to him. I thought Eternal Fire would lose in this last map as well, as there is usually no winner in the Inferno map. It was like that, when the match went to overtime, it was obvious from their faces that there was no desire left by the EF players, and they could not score any points. Now at the next Major. HF to other teams

To be honest xantares didn't play very well in these qualifiers.There was a need for an extra player but imorr's performance wasn't enough to get the ticket.When xantares doesn't play in the team, maybe there is a mental decline or maybe I'm not sure.This team is actually built on xantares, so we can say that the game order is according to him.If he plays badly, the team has difficulties in winning matches.We see that he didn't perform very well throughout the tournament and EF was eliminated from the tournament.

I think now I believe that Xantares' time has passed. He has become an old school player now and we have seen how good the young players are in this Major qualifiers. As you said, the game is completely based on Xantares and when it is not on that day, there are failures. And I think it affects the mentality of the team, even though he has the best aim in the world, he is a player who gets angry very quickly and has the capacity to make silly decisions when angry.

After the match, these images were talked about a lot. Later they apologized and said that it was not racism. They held one of the team responsible and imposed a fine. Aurora club said that with this money they will donate for the earthquake in Turkey. This is enough in my opinion. Kebab is not racist by the way, it just seems like shit-talks to me.

Monte team made a racist statement to Aurora, I think it's obvious they will be punished.

I don't think Xantares' time has passed.I can say that he will still find a place among the best players, but we can say that he was demoralized in this tournament.While I really expected him to play better day by day, his play in this tournament made the fans and me sad.He has been training more than he has ever done in the team, maybe he couldn't play well with the fatigue of this, of course, we don't know exactly.Xantares is a player with a very good aime and I think he will be in this game industry for at least 2 more years.
What Aurora did is a complete nonsense. Such a thing should not even have been allowed by the organization. It is nothing but bad manners that they did it while no one else has done it until now.

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Eternal Fire lost their last chance.Eternal Fire lost despite having a close match on the map chosen by aurora.They lost 19-15 on the Mirage map and fell behind 1-0.The second map was the anubis map chosen by EF.EF won the match with a nice comeback on T Side, brought the situation to 1-1 and went to the decider map. I can say that taking the Pistol round on the decider map and detonating the bomb with milliseconds was perhaps the breaking moment of the match.EF did not improve their game much, but if they had solved the bomb there, maybe we could be talking about different things right now.

The return on the Anubis map was very good, they could have won in the inferno map with the momentum they got from there, we can say that Imorr played a lot extra and the comeback was thanks to him. I thought Eternal Fire would lose in this last map as well, as there is usually no winner in the Inferno map. It was like that, when the match went to overtime, it was obvious from their faces that there was no desire left by the EF players, and they could not score any points. Now at the next Major. HF to other teams

To be honest xantares didn't play very well in these qualifiers.There was a need for an extra player but imorr's performance wasn't enough to get the ticket.When xantares doesn't play in the team, maybe there is a mental decline or maybe I'm not sure.This team is actually built on xantares, so we can say that the game order is according to him.If he plays badly, the team has difficulties in winning matches.We see that he didn't perform very well throughout the tournament and EF was eliminated from the tournament.

I think now I believe that Xantares' time has passed. He has become an old school player now and we have seen how good the young players are in this Major qualifiers. As you said, the game is completely based on Xantares and when it is not on that day, there are failures. And I think it affects the mentality of the team, even though he has the best aim in the world, he is a player who gets angry very quickly and has the capacity to make silly decisions when angry.

After the match, these images were talked about a lot. Later they apologized and said that it was not racism. They held one of the team responsible and imposed a fine. Aurora club said that with this money they will donate for the earthquake in Turkey. This is enough in my opinion. Kebab is not racist by the way, it just seems like shit-talks to me.

Monte team made a racist statement to Aurora, I think it's obvious they will be punished.

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When we looked at the last games played today, it was hard to see a surprise result.We knew that the remaining teams would fight with their last strength and from what I watched, that's what happened.Forze beat their opponent and secured the spot and got the major ticket.Forze played better as a team.Aurora had a very bad performance from lack1 and norwi and I think that contributed a lot to their defeat.
The BIG-NiP match was perhaps one of the closest matches of the day.Neither team played badly, but with extra performance, NiP was one of the teams that won the ticket by winning both maps.We can say that Rez and headtr1ck's good performance carried his team to the major tournament.

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Quote from: len01 on April 13, 2023, 06:04:43 AM

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I am now watching the tiebreaker match between Aster and Execration, it's still on the first map and it seems that Execration is leading the game. Whoever wins the game will still have a match against TSM. This is quite confusing to me but in Group A, three teams are fighting for the last remaining slot for Stage 2. While on Group B, it's gonna be OG, beast coast and Team Spirit that are fighting for two slots and only one team will be kicked there.

the Aster and Execration matches are interesting matches because if you look at the performance statistics, the two teams have almost the same abilities. but in map 1 Execration dominates this match and in my opinion Aster will surprise Execration through Hero Enigma chosen by the Aster team.
even though in this match both teams are very strong but I prefer Aster who is more experienced in various matches and has performed well in the previous matches. looks like I chose the Aster team in this match.

Well, Execration and Team Aster are out of DreamLeague so they can now focus on the upcoming Berlin Major. And we just have another update from Team Aster and it was broadcasted by Nigma that their mid laner, Sumail is going to stand-in for Team Aster. It was already updated on the page of Berlin major and that's an interesting stand in for someone like Sumail. No doubt about his capacity but knowing that Team Aster is a chinese team, will there be no communication problem on him?

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Nigma galaxy once again announce their greatest comeback which is miracle makes again in the game and many people expecting that the Nigma now makes a good run, yes it is but it will not last long after their match against Talon they really play good and we see unusual games again came from miracle- but after they manage to win the series of 2-0 they face now one of the dominating team which is team liquid they makes them eliminated in the game and the funny thing here is Miracle- becomes now standin again.

Yes. Nigma Galaxy is already out of the DreamLeague.

The comeback of Miracle didn't do any good on them and still, they're out of it. The sets of the teams that qualifies for the Stage 2 of DL was almost done, we still got some tiebreakers waiting ahead.

Talon Esports is also out and I think this make sense because they need to prepare for the Berlin Major. While Execration is on a tiebreaker against Team Aster.

There some pro players to telling that the nigma will only rise up because of the miracle show and some of them is right imagine the nigma can't even manage to win at the Ti if there's no miracle and matumbaman we saw them already with a good play and if you check MC performance once he gets rekt in the game he can't manage anymore to play and also with the decision making of kuro takes too much serious in-game but in draft quite not effective due to having an improper counters.

The players of Nigma are now weak. I literally mean it because there are now a lot of young players who are stronger and plays better than them, I know that they won a TI before but this time is different. They are always behind in their respective lanes and Sumail and Miracle cannot lift them anymore because the support players are not that good unlike before. I also saw Miracle struggling in laning stage and that is why they have been eliminated in the DreamLeague. Hoping that Miracle and Sumail should not yet stop playing dota and the Nigma should change the roster by kicking GH and Kuroky. I know that they are the old players but their skill is not that good. For me they are the weakest link in the team Nigma. Look at the top teams nowadays, when they saw a weak link or a player that always been struggling in all stages, they will kick it and replace it with a better player. Still props to them because they won a TI but it is the time for the supports of Nigma to change. If they do it, for sure we will see a drastic performance when they play again.

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Quote from: dbshck on April 13, 2023, 05:01:31 PM

Quote from: judas on April 13, 2023, 03:47:27 PM

This situation is behind their elimination in the RMR as well. Otherwise they could have at least defeated Aurora today. They had concentration problems at one point again and couldn't prevent an upset by 2-1 at the end.

Yeah must be hard losing 2-1 with two maps going overtime.

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Honestly Aurora weren't playing that impressive. They were even making simple mistakes so I can't call their effort well. Eternal Fire just handed over the victory to them.

Kinda expected from a newer team, but gotta give credit to them too for being able to endure that close match with EF. Also, going the full 30 rounds (14-16) against top-tier teams like G2 and Heroic in previous matches is no small accomplishment.

I agree with you, but EF has been preparing for this tournament for so long and they didn't participate in any other tournaments in order not to represent them.It's sad for the team and their fans to return without a ticket in such a tournament.Yes, their opponent was not an easy opponent.The fact that you stated that they lost to both heroic and G2 with close scores shows this.But I must say that EF has the potential to beat this team.EF beat Astralis comfortably at Vertigo and could have beaten C9, but it didn't happen.They lost 19-16 in a game where they led 9-0.

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Quote from: judas on April 13, 2023, 03:47:27 PM

This situation is behind their elimination in the RMR as well. Otherwise they could have at least defeated Aurora today. They had concentration problems at one point again and couldn't prevent an upset by 2-1 at the end.

Yeah must be hard losing 2-1 with two maps going overtime.

Quote from: judas on April 13, 2023, 03:47:27 PM

Honestly Aurora weren't playing that impressive. They were even making simple mistakes so I can't call their effort well. Eternal Fire just handed over the victory to them.

Kinda expected from a newer team, but gotta give credit to them too for being able to endure that close match with EF. Also, going the full 30 rounds (14-16) against top-tier teams like G2 and Heroic in previous matches is no small accomplishment.

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Quote from: Balmain on April 13, 2023, 04:45:23 PM

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Eternal Fire lost their last chance.Eternal Fire lost despite having a close match on the map chosen by aurora.They lost 19-15 on the Mirage map and fell behind 1-0.The second map was the anubis map chosen by EF.EF won the match with a nice comeback on T Side, brought the situation to 1-1 and went to the decider map. I can say that taking the Pistol round on the decider map and detonating the bomb with milliseconds was perhaps the breaking moment of the match.EF did not improve their game much, but if they had solved the bomb there, maybe we could be talking about different things right now.

The return on the Anubis map was very good, they could have won in the inferno map with the momentum they got from there, we can say that Imorr played a lot extra and the comeback was thanks to him. I thought Eternal Fire would lose in this last map as well, as there is usually no winner in the Inferno map. It was like that, when the match went to overtime, it was obvious from their faces that there was no desire left by the EF players, and they could not score any points. Now at the next Major. HF to other teams

To be honest xantares didn't play very well in these qualifiers.There was a need for an extra player but imorr's performance wasn't enough to get the ticket.When xantares doesn't play in the team, maybe there is a mental decline or maybe I'm not sure.This team is actually built on xantares, so we can say that the game order is according to him.If he plays badly, the team has difficulties in winning matches.We see that he didn't perform very well throughout the tournament and EF was eliminated from the tournament.

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Quote from: execijutiere on April 13, 2023, 02:48:29 PM

Eternal Fire lost their last chance.Eternal Fire lost despite having a close match on the map chosen by aurora.They lost 19-15 on the Mirage map and fell behind 1-0.The second map was the anubis map chosen by EF.EF won the match with a nice comeback on T Side, brought the situation to 1-1 and went to the decider map. I can say that taking the Pistol round on the decider map and detonating the bomb with milliseconds was perhaps the breaking moment of the match.EF did not improve their game much, but if they had solved the bomb there, maybe we could be talking about different things right now.

The return on the Anubis map was very good, they could have won in the inferno map with the momentum they got from there, we can say that Imorr played a lot extra and the comeback was thanks to him. I thought Eternal Fire would lose in this last map as well, as there is usually no winner in the Inferno map. It was like that, when the match went to overtime, it was obvious from their faces that there was no desire left by the EF players, and they could not score any points. Now at the next Major. HF to other teams

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Quote from: judas on April 13, 2023, 03:47:27 PM

Eternal Fire's start to the RMR was really promising in fact. Defeating Astralis that much comfortable and nearly defeating Cloud9 as well. Their performance against Cloud9 was pretty impressive until getting 9-0 ahead against them. After Cloud9 started to win rounds Eternal Fire started to lose their concentration slowly. This has been their main problem so far and they still can't create a solution for this.

This situation is behind their elimination in the RMR as well. Otherwise they could have at least defeated Aurora today. They had concentration problems at one point again and couldn't prevent an upset by 2-1 at the end. Honestly Aurora weren't playing that impressive. They were even making simple mistakes so I can't call their effort well. Eternal Fire just handed over the victory to them.

Unfortunately, this is the case.EF really couldn't improve himself in this regard and he feels the burden of this so much that he has such problems in tournaments.I don't understand how they manage to lower themselves mentally.You are 9-0 ahead and with giving a round, the morale starts to drop and you lose the match when you are so far ahead.It's not going to happen, frankly.Especially in eco and half buy rounds, we lose rounds by not being able to do anything.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on April 13, 2023, 07:47:07 AM

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Yes. Nigma Galaxy is already out of the DreamLeague.

The comeback of Miracle didn't do any good on them and still, they're out of it. The sets of the teams that qualifies for the Stage 2 of DL was almost done, we still got some tiebreakers waiting ahead.

Talon Esports is also out and I think this make sense because they need to prepare for the Berlin Major. While Execration is on a tiebreaker against Team Aster.

There some pro players to telling that the nigma will only rise up because of the miracle show and some of them is right imagine the nigma can't even manage to win at the Ti if there's no miracle and matumbaman we saw them already with a good play and if you check MC performance once he gets rekt in the game he can't manage anymore to play and also with the decision making of kuro takes too much serious in-game but in draft quite not effective due to having an improper counters.

But not anymore, Miracle is out again. Matumbaman is actually a good player and we saw how he contributed to them before and also to Team Liquid where he has transferred but then he's retired and is for good.

I think what's the best for the team is for Kuro to be out and then just lead the team as their coach or analyst and then let another talent gets in for their pos 1, someone who's too fierced yet careful.

They've got all the experiences already but meta and updates are changing and they might have hard time coping up with it.

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