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Quote from: blue_hurricanger on September 05, 2022, 01:38:45 PM

The latest HLTV ranking is out! Check out pic below for the top 10 HLTV.
Faze took the #1 spot from Navi, #2 for now. Navi is at #1 but doing piss-poor at stage round, just barely made it to the playoff round. Now Faze is at #1, the same curse again to Faze in stage round in group B?

Also, Liquid is at #3! A nice surprise since I have a soft spot for Liquid as I've posted before from the old roster Stewie, NAF, Twistzz, Nitro, Elige. This time, Liquid at #3 with NAF, Nitro, Elige, Yekindar, oSee tho. Interesting to see Vitality at #4 with +3 from the last ranking.

Group A matches this and last week for the ESL Pro League Season 16 had huge impacts of the world ranking. FaZe reached #1 without even playing a game, only by NaVi losing 3 matches they managed to pull ahead. The week was pretty terrible for me, lost a lot of bets on NaVi. As a long term follower of NaVi I expected much more from them. The mirage map vs Vitality was super close, could have ended either way and then NaVi would have won 2:0, was an unlucky day Sad

And vs NiP seems the nerves were not holding up. Both have the matches should have been a clear win for NaVi. So far they are still not in a bad position, their round difference is good and they should be able to recover later in the tournament. Group B matches for the are starting today, with the first match being FaZe vs FTW which has odds of 1.02 - 1.04 for FaZe winning, makes almost no point to even bet on this game. The BIG vs Outsiders match today seems much more close and has decent odds with 1.75-1.8 for BIG to win. For me this is the best match today to try and recover my NaVi losses. And tomorrow the match G2 vs BIG should be interesting with G2 likely winning.

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Quote from: ralle14 on September 06, 2022, 07:57:38 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on September 06, 2022, 02:02:01 PM

Its going to be either Navi or BetBoom against Outsiders at the finals but either way, Outsiders would have win the game against any of these two. They kinda deserved to win the qualifiers though as things have been going out of their way ever since the Russia declared war against Ukraine, they were banned from some tournaments because of it because they are Russian and VP was owned by a Russian company or something

I agree, with the clean and consistent performance from Outsiders it's looking like a battle for second place but I do hope Navi wins so the odds would be a bit better heading into the grand finals.

At this point we all know that Outsiders will win this qualifiers. It is the comeback that they can give after failing to get the invitation to TI thru dpc points. I am betting for Navi too because I think they can give a better series against outsiders in the finals.

I am just curios that there is no offer for handicap in stake. Do you know any bookies that offer map handicaps?

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 06, 2022, 02:02:01 PM

Its going to be either Navi or BetBoom against Outsiders at the finals but either way, Outsiders would have win the game against any of these two. They kinda deserved to win the qualifiers though as things have been going out of their way ever since the Russia declared war against Ukraine, they were banned from some tournaments because of it because they are Russian and VP was owned by a Russian company or something

I agree, with the clean and consistent performance from Outsiders it's looking like a battle for second place but I do hope Navi wins so the odds would be a bit better heading into the grand finals.

Quote from: arallmuus on September 06, 2022, 02:02:01 PM

Its pretty lame that I searched some bookies and they were not offering Outsiders -1.5 against Navi so I decided to take the winner option and parlay it with some other game. Glad that it paid off

I had the same experience, it's weird to see the CIS qualifiers only have the series winner market while the SA qualifiers had more markets.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 06, 2022, 02:02:01 PM

Its going to be either Navi or BetBoom against Outsiders at the finals but either way, Outsiders would have win the game against any of these two. They kinda deserved to win the qualifiers though as things have been going out of their way ever since the Russia declared war against Ukraine, they were banned from some tournaments because of it because they are Russian and VP was owned by a Russian company or something

Its pretty lame that I searched some bookies and they were not offering Outsiders -1.5 against Navi so I decided to take the winner option and parlay it with some other game. Glad that it paid off

Outsiders is now waiting at the grand finals. But Betboom and Navi, all of these three are now good with their secured spots for the last chance qualifier.
I agree with you that Outsiders deserve to get that spot but they're waiting if they'll get the slot for the grand finals. Renaming the team into Outsiders from being VP is actually a good move by its management and that made them still participate from most Valve events despite the issue about Russia-Ukraine war.

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Group B matches are going to start in the ESL Pro League tomorrow.

It seems very tough to predict the result of Outsiders - BIG especially. Because these are quite close teams recently. BIG have a really big drop in their effort these days and this caused them to lose many matches. Outsiders are also not as good as before now. BIG are favoured but I will still not prefer a side to bet on. Instead I'm thinking of something different if I decide to make bets on the matches. I might combine FaZe's 2-0 win against FTW and G2's 2-1 win against MIBR. Total odd is 3.54 after this and it is quite attracting. Grin

The reason why I think G2 would lose a map is that they are still not a very reliable team after the transfers.

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Quote from: boltz on September 06, 2022, 10:16:01 AM

VP smashed NaVi 2-0 and they are in the finals for TI qualifiers.

Its going to be either Navi or BetBoom against Outsiders at the finals but either way, Outsiders would have win the game against any of these two. They kinda deserved to win the qualifiers though as things have been going out of their way ever since the Russia declared war against Ukraine, they were banned from some tournaments because of it because they are Russian and VP was owned by a Russian company or something

Its pretty lame that I searched some bookies and they were not offering Outsiders -1.5 against Navi so I decided to take the winner option and parlay it with some other game. Glad that it paid off

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Na'Vi are back being the source for memes when it comes to Dota2. This mean have nothing to do with the old team of Na'Vi and at this point they should simply disband and give a chance to fresh gamers who are grinding daily in order to get a chance because no one wants to see NoOne and MidOne playing dota again...they have no skills left in them.

VP smashed NaVi 2-0 and they are in the finals for TI qualifiers.

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Looking at the CIS region or EEU for Dota 2, there are now two teams that are guaranteed with the last chance qualifier. Although both of them are waiting for their match at the upper bracket, but they're guaranteed the slot now whether they win or lose.

Still, they're fighting for the TI2022 slot but that's already a guarantee to them for the last chance qualifier.

The teams are Outsiders and Na'Vi. Speaking of Outsiders, I think that they really are pushing and showing that they really deserve a slot after Fnatic took their slot after a deficit in very tiny amount of point.

While on the South America region, Infamous and Tempest are guaranteed for the last chance qualifier slots.

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Quote from: blue_hurricanger on September 05, 2022, 01:38:45 PM

The latest HLTV ranking is out! Check out pic below for the top 10 HLTV.
Faze took the #1 spot from Navi, #2 for now. Navi is at #1 but doing piss-poor at stage round, just barely made it to the playoff round. Now Faze is at #1, the same curse again to Faze in stage round in group B?

Also, Liquid is at #3! A nice surprise since I have a soft spot for Liquid as I've posted before from the old roster Stewie, NAF, Twistzz, Nitro, Elige. This time, Liquid at #3 with NAF, Nitro, Elige, Yekindar, oSee tho. Interesting to see Vitality at #4 with +3 from the last ranking.

Thank you for the update mate!

Vitality are the most attention getting team in top 10 obviously. But this is no surprise for any of us. They have improved their performance too much after their transfer move for Spinx in the end. They even finished a group in which there is NaVi also as the leader. Of course there is still a huge point difference among the first two teams and the third team in the ranking. But it is still good to see there are some changes in the ranks near FaZe and NaVi. By the way the reason why NaVi lost their lead must be related to their poor performance in the ESL Pro League so far. Depending on FaZe's effort things might change once again.

Great work by Liquid too! Just look at their ranking development in the recent years. It is an insane recovery indeed.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 05, 2022, 08:37:58 AM

It was a really dangerous day for NaVi indeed. They could have even been out of the tournament if Spirit defeated Vitality. This was quite probable normally as Vitality didn't need any win after guaranteeing their lead in the group. This is a big lesson for NaVi I hope. They have s1mple also but there is something different with their team play recently. I wonder how they weakened this much suddenly.

Group B matches are going to start in only two days. FaZe are the absolute favourite team to finish the group as the leader of course. But I won't be 100% sure of it after seeing how bad NaVi did in the group stage. Grin

Outsiders have been dropping down in the ranking for some time. However I still see them a very dangerous opponent for every team in the group. We shouldn't forget that OG defeated FaZe in Blast Premier not much time ago. Outsiders are not much different than OG. G2 might be eliminated in this stage already by finishing it in the 4th position I assume. They need to make a big improvement after their poor performance in Blast Premier.

The latest HLTV ranking is out! Check out pic below for the top 10 HLTV.
Faze took the #1 spot from Navi, #2 for now. Navi is at #1 but doing piss-poor at stage round, just barely made it to the playoff round. Now Faze is at #1, the same curse again to Faze in stage round in group B?

Also, Liquid is at #3! A nice surprise since I have a soft spot for Liquid as I've posted before from the old roster Stewie, NAF, Twistzz, Nitro, Elige. This time, Liquid at #3 with NAF, Nitro, Elige, Yekindar, oSee tho. Interesting to see Vitality at #4 with +3 from the last ranking.

Quote from: Pulsar77 on September 05, 2022, 12:19:52 PM

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G2 jumped up to #9, +1 from the last ranking so don't worry about G2 falling out of the top 10 HLTV. They're improving since the last roster change with jks and Hooxi. You know, it always took time for CSGO pro players to form into a team and train strats. For m0nesy, I think I remember there was a clause in the contract where Navi is the first one to buy back m0nesy if he decides to part away with G2. So yeah, Navi pretty much can receive m0nesy back.

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Quote from: ralle14 on September 04, 2022, 10:53:51 PM

The odds on Navi vs BetBoom seem a bit off, from my view Navi should be the favorites but they faced a decent opponent on their first series in the qualifiers.

Also, I got lucky earlier and caught Navi to win @2.02 and now it seems like the odds are much closer but I still think it shouldn't be this high though.

I thought BetBoom would win the game especially after they won the 1st map but Im glad that I decided to go with over 2.5 maps though. Classic bet as usual but it works again. As for tomorrow, I kinda think that Outsiders -1.5 against Navi would be a good option considering that Outsiders seems to be much better than the others EEU regions teams though

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Quote from: Balmain on September 05, 2022, 10:02:10 AM

... When the group B matches start, my favorite will be FaZe. The other Favorite is G2, let's see, the last transfers were just starting to adapt. M0nesy and Niko are already doing what they have to do. How much it will balance the others is what matters. Hooxie doesn't give me much confidence as an IGL, but maybe he can recover, he will test himself in this group again.

m0nesy is the best player of G2 at the moment. NaVi must be really unsatisfied with losing him to G2 from their Junior team. He was like the future of NaVi however they can still convince him to sign in the future depending on how much happy he is at G2 or some other team maybe. NiKo is the second best with a 1.22 rating and Hunter follows him right after by a slight gap. However we need to see the same effort from jks and HooXi as well. I know that they are newly adapting to the team. There were some positive signs in their match against Vitality for example.

However they still need to be well-prepared before the group matches start. G2 are nearly staying out of top 10 in the world ranking. They don't deserve this. I still doubt the new transfers but it'd be lovely if they surprise every person who thinks the same as me.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 05, 2022, 07:52:10 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 05, 2022, 07:09:39 AM

In DOTA 2, the eastern European and South American qualifiers started already. The Outsiders so far showed their hunger as they scored 2-0 in their last 2 games. In the next 24 hours, the Outsiders and NaVi will clash for the finals in the upper bracket. While both teams are not yet qualified for TI, they are at least already secured for their trips to Singapore for the last chance qualifiers. I can't wait for the other regions to start.

This should be in Outsider's bag. These guys are killing it on their past tournaments and also this regional qualifiers. I'm rooting for them to win their bracket since they had a hard time all these past few months because of the restrictions imposed on their original organizations due to the Russo-Ukraine war. They lagged behind a lot of teams when it comes to tournaments ever since those restrictions were imposed, and they are now playing catch up with other teams. I think they deserve to secure that TI spot more than anyone in their region.

They are one of the top teams on there Division including Team Spirit. Actually they beat TS many times on there regional tournaments before which means this qualifiers is easy for them to win since TS is the only team that can match them toe to toe while NaVi rarely give them a close fight. I think they really got this spot and the main reason that gives them this hunger to win is the recent error on announcements about the last team who will qualified in TI.

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We have come to the end of group A in EPL. Vitality finished top of the group without any defeat in this group. Navi and Fnatic teams also secured themselves to qualify for the playoffs. We watched a very competitive group. With the transfer of Vitality Spinx, they became a very dominant team. Spinx was the best transfer they could have made and I think they are very satisfied now. When the group B matches start, my favorite will be FaZe. The other Favorite is G2, let's see, the last transfers were just starting to adapt. M0nesy and Niko are already doing what they have to do. How much it will balance the others is what matters. Hooxie doesn't give me much confidence as an IGL, but maybe he can recover, he will test himself in this group again.

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It was a really dangerous day for NaVi indeed. They could have even been out of the tournament if Spirit defeated Vitality. This was quite probable normally as Vitality didn't need any win after guaranteeing their lead in the group. This is a big lesson for NaVi I hope. They have s1mple also but there is something different with their team play recently. I wonder how they weakened this much suddenly.

Group B matches are going to start in only two days. FaZe are the absolute favourite team to finish the group as the leader of course. But I won't be 100% sure of it after seeing how bad NaVi did in the group stage. Grin

Outsiders have been dropping down in the ranking for some time. However I still see them a very dangerous opponent for every team in the group. We shouldn't forget that OG defeated FaZe in Blast Premier not much time ago. Outsiders are not much different than OG. G2 might be eliminated in this stage already by finishing it in the 4th position I assume. They need to make a big improvement after their poor performance in Blast Premier.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 05, 2022, 07:09:39 AM

In DOTA 2, the eastern European and South American qualifiers started already. The Outsiders so far showed their hunger as they scored 2-0 in their last 2 games. In the next 24 hours, the Outsiders and NaVi will clash for the finals in the upper bracket. While both teams are not yet qualified for TI, they are at least already secured for their trips to Singapore for the last chance qualifiers. I can't wait for the other regions to start.

This should be in Outsider's bag. These guys are killing it on their past tournaments and also this regional qualifiers. I'm rooting for them to win their bracket since they had a hard time all these past few months because of the restrictions imposed on their original organizations due to the Russo-Ukraine war. They lagged behind a lot of teams when it comes to tournaments ever since those restrictions were imposed, and they are now playing catch up with other teams. I think they deserve to secure that TI spot more than anyone in their region.

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In DOTA 2, the eastern European and South American qualifiers started already. The Outsiders so far showed their hunger as they scored 2-0 in their last 2 games. In the next 24 hours, the Outsiders and NaVi will clash for the finals in the upper bracket. While both teams are not yet qualified for TI, they are at least already secured for their trips to Singapore for the last chance qualifiers. I can't wait for the other regions to start.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 04, 2022, 06:16:28 PM

Quote from: edgycorner on September 04, 2022, 06:10:08 PM

NIP shuffled their playstyle and it paid off.
I wasn't expecting Rez to pickup awp, but he plays it so much better than pricetag.

Navi fails like a Tier 3 random faceit mixer when their opponent shuffle their deck by not following their usual gameplay.
Anyways, Navi still made it and they clearly didn't deserve it lol

No more Pro League until Wednesday now Cry

Navi was too confident on their setup. What NiP did on most of their T side on Overpass was to show the bomb on the radar then wait for a long time before making the play. Perfect attention diversion on some rounds but when Navi realized this, NiP just went on to play their normal setup, and it's too late. Rez is awesome on that awp and I agree that he can switch roles, but he's too good of an entry fragger and he trades very consistently with the rifle. While electronic popped off on that map, rez just styled on him and his teammates for the most part.

If Navi could just prove that they're the current top 1 by adapting to NiP's setup but nah. They had other plans I guess Cheesy

Once Navi knew they had already passed the group stage thanks to Vitality winning Spirit 2-0, trying to win the next map Overpass meant little to them. That's the main reason for the slow to adapt NIP's shuffles, guys. Both Vitality and Navi are under the gg.bet's banner so a favorite in-house, perhaps.

Tho yeah, have to give NIP credit too for trying their best despite knowing every kind of effort they made in Overpass's going to be futile. Shame that NIP can't make it past the group stage and sit out of the ESL Pro League. Hope the other group will be less complicated than group A. Group B will start on Wednesdays with teams: Faze, G2, BIG, Outsiders (ex-Virtus.pro lineup with Jame and co), MIBR, and FTW. Faze and G2 easily took one playoff spot each, the 3rd and last one for Group B might be a tough fight between Outsiders, BIG, and MIBR.

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The odds on Navi vs BetBoom seem a bit off, from my view Navi should be the favorites but they faced a decent opponent on their first series in the qualifiers.

Also, I got lucky earlier and caught Navi to win @2.02 and now it seems like the odds are much closer but I still think it shouldn't be this high though.

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Quote from: edgycorner on September 04, 2022, 06:10:08 PM

Quote from: blue_hurricanger on September 04, 2022, 04:10:17 AM

Navi vs NIP will be an interesting match. Navi wasn't in their top form, I agree with you on that. Navi lost to Endpoint 2-0 while NIP won 2-0. Does this mean NIP at the upper hand against Navi? Or does Navi keep hiding its strats and just want to pass the group stage rounds before being forced to reveal their strats for payoff rounds?

NIP shuffled their playstyle and it paid off.
I wasn't expecting Rez to pickup awp, but he plays it so much better than pricetag.

Navi fails like a Tier 3 random faceit mixer when their opponent shuffle their deck by not following their usual gameplay.
Anyways, Navi still made it and they clearly didn't deserve it lol

No more Pro League until Wednesday now Cry

Navi was too confident on their setup. What NiP did on most of their T side on Overpass was to show the bomb on the radar then wait for a long time before making the play. Perfect attention diversion on some rounds but when Navi realized this, NiP just went on to play their normal setup, and it's too late. Rez is awesome on that awp and I agree that he can switch roles, but he's too good of an entry fragger and he trades very consistently with the rifle. While electronic popped off on that map, rez just styled on him and his teammates for the most part.

If Navi could just prove that they're the current top 1 by adapting to NiP's setup but nah. They had other plans I guess Cheesy

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