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but I’m still not convinced much that this is the real OG

Wether you believe it or not, Liquid is much better than OG and they have proven it for the last 4 games by beating them 4-0 straight. The thing about WEU region is that, I dont think that there is a single team that could dominate the region unlike the CN Region and its pretty much like rock paper scissors at this point because Liquid would lose to another team despite beating OG badly



Glad this one pays off
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Secret has become a joke lately. I get it that Yapzor has some big health issues but the team without him is playing so bad that is hard to watch them. Also , Nisha seems to be the last one from that team who still has a higher skill and great mechanics when it comes to Dota. The others ? Maybe are a bit to old for the game ? Second Major in a row without Secret and I'm afraid they won't make it to TI.

Great news for EG tho , as I'm sure they will win the tiebrackers and get that spot to Texas Major.
Yeah, I agree.. Last season pre-TI. Team Secret were the team to beat. They were the unstoppable force that everyone thought that they'd win TI and were one of the betting favorites too. In a way they did live up to the hype as they almost reached the finals. Post TI, Without YapGOD, and not having a stable lineup. They havent been the same at all. Hopefully the team gets back together and stable again just for the sake of high quality DoTA.
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Some amazing Dota games yesterday starting off with EG 2-0'ing Quincy Crew to make it a 3 way tie for the top spot. Team Spirit edging past BetBoom in 3 maps. Fanatic 2-0 T1 and then team Entity reverse sweeping team Secret after Secret wins 1st map convincingly and to end it all, Team Liquid 2-0 OG for the 2nd time in a row.

Secret has become a joke lately. I get it that Yapzor has some big health issues but the team without him is playing so bad that is hard to watch them. Also , Nisha seems to be the last one from that team who still has a higher skill and great mechanics when it comes to Dota. The others ? Maybe are a bit to old for the game ? Second Major in a row without Secret and I'm afraid they won't make it to TI.

Great news for EG tho , as I'm sure they will win the tiebrackers and get that spot to Texas Major.
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Some amazing Dota games yesterday starting off with EG 2-0'ing Quincy Crew to make it a 3 way tie for the top spot. Team Spirit edging past BetBoom in 3 maps. Fanatic 2-0 T1 and then team Entity reverse sweeping team Secret after Secret wins 1st map convincingly and to end it all, Team Liquid 2-0 OG for the 2nd time in a row.
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Has anybody watched Team Spirit and BetBoom series yesterday? That was insane. I lost my bet on the second map so tripled it on the third map. That was unreal, especially on the deciding map. I cannot count how many times its momentum switches sides. In the end, Team Spirit prevailed.

OG losing to Liquid somehow indirectly affected Team Secret. It minimized Team Secret's chances to qualify. Because if OG won, there could've been 2 slots available for Entity, Team Secret, and Team Liquid. And Team Secret already smashed Team Liquid before with 2-0. Now Team Secret will play against Entity whom they already lost earlier. It's a tougher game to them I believe.

I see so instead of just a two way tie breaker, it could be a 3-way tie breaker for 2 slots. Thats literally 66% chance to get one compared to 50% chance so yeah but Liquid was just way better against OG although OG seems to be stomping the other teams. It wasnt even close at all, Liquid totally owned them in both of the map so yeah it was expected
It's just my thought that OG Notail does not like Puppey, its long-time rival. So I was contemplating betting on Liquid on their regular series. But I'm supposed to bet on OG when it comes to the tie-breaker series. Luckily I fell asleep during the 2nd map tie-breaker series with Secret and Entity. I really thought Secret can manage to close the series in the 2nd map. What a heartbreaking loss to Puppey.


In Southeast Asia, newcomer Talon Esports surprisingly secured a slot, endangering T1 or even Fnatic. Currently watching Fnatic and T1. Hoping Fnatic will win in order to seal their slot to Arlington.

I bet to T1 with +1.5 but I guess I need to say goodbye early to my bet because they seems experimenting on there game 2 pick. They pick pudge as pos1 for Gabbi which we all know this hero is frequently use on trolling in Sea pub as carry. I don’t know if they can win this but Fnatic Line up is very solid with TA and Puck as there carry.

They need a good black hole to win this which I don’t if they can manage to execute with this line-up. Smh  Roll Eyes

In fairness, Gabbi manage to use properly Pudge carry from early to Mid game. It's just this kind of hero has an expiration of effectiveness when facing against hard carry like TA. Those last clash on Rosh pit cause them the game because over commit to Roshan Fnatic wipe them out 1 by 1 since they didn't expect that Fnatic will still contest.

It's very enjoyable to watch the game especially to our local caster that very biased on supporting T1.
T1 is choker since before and now they are worst when they replaced 23savage as pos1. No offense gabbi is good carry but he always choke on late game just like what happened on the previous match against Fnatic. Maybe its still good that they lose since Arlington Major will gonna massacre them with this kind of play that they are showing on SEA tournament. GG to your bet. 
I don't like Gabbi either. When T1 announced they are letting go of 23savage I was surprised but when rumors leaked that it was due to his attitude then I was like "okay". There were even rumors that Ana will replace 23savage. But when they announced that Gabbi becomes the permanent replacement, I felt disgruntled because I think they just downgraded the team.  

Regional eliminators are getting more interesting and exciting in their latest stage. I will try to YOLO on Team Aster as LGD may not play seriously.
The odds are close though and LGD bounced back on their last series taking down RNG 2-0. If the odds were more in favor of LGD there could've been value on Aster but it feels like LGD is the better choice since they're also one series win away from forcing a four-way tiebreaker for a major spot but a series loss puts them to a three-way tiebreaker to avoid relegation.
I just have the feeling that LGD was not playing seriously in some of its matches to let the other Chinese teams catch up for a chance in TI. They have already secured in the TI anyway. RNG win or lose is already in the top or 2nd spot. Provided Aster beats LGD and wins over RNG in the tiebreakers, I think 1140 points is enough to join TI, if they lose to RNG then they need at least an 8th finish in Arlington to join TI. But maybe LGD will play seriously against Aster and will take the no-hoper Aster.Aries out.
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IEM Cologne is back with quarter final games tomorrow. I think that Astralis would manage to put an end to MOUZ's great streak so far. [...]
i have Astralis to win in a multi + Liquid to beat Movistar Riders. For single tickets, probably Movistar's Mopoz over 17.5 kills or Over maps Mouz - Astralis.
Riders - Liquid is gonna be a banger, moneyline 1.9 odds for each in some fiat bookies 🔥🔥

I like Astralis to win ML too, currently @ 1.80 issh, It's valuable imo, I don't like the Over maps because I've seen couple of games easily go one side in the IEM, and it's of no extra value imo, because the Over odds is currently 1.85, so I'd rather Astralis to win 2-1 for 3.2+ Odds than the over 2.5 maps because of the difference in the odds.

I definitely like Mopoz 17.5 kills too, but where do you find such options ?
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Team Secret lost and they will not go to Arlington Major 😢 they'll miss their second major in a row. Save Nisha pls ):

Well to be fair, they wouldnt be able to win on the Major either way though. So now we'll have both Nigma and Secret as a top contender on the WEU regional qualifier for the TI1

Got one solid odds from Betboom vs Team Spirit as well
nice win
TS dropped a map once in the entire league, 2.3 odds seemed low after they were 1-0 up, but still a good win

I had to double check the oddds because when I was betting on this, Im pretty sure that two of the Betboom cores are on the top of the networth with 3k gold lead. Well it was a small lead but atleast its a decent odds when the team you bet on is currently leading the game so yeah I took it in a hurry, glad that it pull through



Lets see if Team Liquid is going to get another 2-0 against OG again



Currently 1-0 for Liquid
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Team Secret lost and they will not go to Arlington Major 😢 they'll miss their second major in a row. Save Nisha pls ):

Got one solid odds from Betboom vs Team Spirit as well

https://i.imgur.com/WTKIjVE.png
nice win
TS dropped a map once in the entire league, 2.3 odds seemed low after they were 1-0 up, but still a good win

IEM Cologne is back with quarter final games tomorrow. I think that Astralis would manage to put an end to MOUZ's great streak so far. [...]
i have Astralis to win in a multi + Liquid to beat Movistar Riders. For single tickets, probably Movistar's Mopoz over 17.5 kills or Over maps Mouz - Astralis.
Riders - Liquid is gonna be a banger, moneyline 1.9 odds for each in some fiat bookies 🔥🔥
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IEM Cologne is back with quarter final games tomorrow. I think that Astralis would manage to put an end to MOUZ's great streak so far. It wouldn't be easy for them surely but Astralis still seem a little better to me. However it is really difficult to predict the winner of the Movistar Riders vs Liquid draw. I think they are at equal strength now. I expect both of them to win a map. Maybe Movistar Riders might manage to win this by a small margin.
I think Astralis vs Mouz is a winnable match for both sides, and I honestly think Astralis is one step ahead because they are a more experienced team. Mouz has a young squad. Of course they have good players, but there is no sign of their old squad.
I think Movistar Riders-Liquid will be an easy match for liquid. We can say that Movistar Riders came here flawlessly. They showed an unexpected performance. Liquid, who strengthened their roster with Yekindar, will win the match.
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IEM Cologne is back with quarter final games tomorrow. I think that Astralis would manage to put an end to MOUZ's great streak so far. It wouldn't be easy for them surely but Astralis still seem a little better to me. However it is really difficult to predict the winner of the Movistar Riders vs Liquid draw. I think they are at equal strength now. I expect both of them to win a map. Maybe Movistar Riders might manage to win this by a small margin.
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IHC surprised me. It's strange that they didn't qualify as a team participating in a major. Congratulations to Wings up. They qualified for Melbourne with a good game. In the European qualifier of the tournament entropiq managed to beat heet. The match was very close but entropiq came out victorious. Now it's time for the last match. I'm following the Sprout-Entropiq battle and I see Sprout one step ahead.
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The odds are close though and LGD bounced back on their last series taking down RNG 2-0. If the odds were more in favor of LGD there could've been value on Aster but it feels like LGD is the better choice since they're also one series win away from forcing a four-way tiebreaker for a major spot but a series loss puts them to a three-way tiebreaker to avoid relegation.

This pretty much settles it right. Even if PSG.LGD is trying to give all those points to their fellow teams, they wouldnt want to risk playing in the relegation tiebreaker so I doubt that they will actually lose in this game. Im going to stick with another PSG.LGD -1.5 for this game as well, the last one pay off well though



Got one solid odds from Betboom vs Team Spirit as well

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Ana is back guys! He will stand in for Matumbaman on Team Liquid for Riyadh Masters 2022. There's no known reason for Matu absence but fans are already on seeing Ana play again on competitive scene. He was being seen playing regularly on pubs game with the current patch so maybe he still have the form since Team Liquid is confident to him as Matu substitute.

This will gonna an exciting tournament and I hope that old OG will reunite and form a new team. 🙏

Sauce: https://afkgaming.com/dota2/news/ana-to-stand-in-for-team-liquid-at-the-riyadh-masters-2022
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In fairness, Gabbi manage to use properly Pudge carry from early to Mid game. It's just this kind of hero has an expiration of effectiveness when facing against hard carry like TA. Those last clash on Rosh pit cause them the game because over commit to Roshan Fnatic wipe them out 1 by 1 since they didn't expect that Fnatic will still contest.

It's very enjoyable to watch the game especially to our local caster that very biased on supporting T1.


I can commend Gabbi on his pudge but with that wrong move on the rosh pit, everything turned into mess and that's how quick the table was turned.

Pudge carry should be used to end the game quickly because I've seen too many pudge games and they've mostly lost to those matches. It's not effective for Pudge carry to have the entire game enter to late game.

Well, congrats Fnatic, they're going to Arlington.

Also, TSM is now secured as the 2nd team for The International 2022.
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Regional eliminators are getting more interesting and exciting in their latest stage. I will try to YOLO on Team Aster as LGD may not play seriously.
The odds are close though and LGD bounced back on their last series taking down RNG 2-0. If the odds were more in favor of LGD there could've been value on Aster but it feels like LGD is the better choice since they're also one series win away from forcing a four-way tiebreaker for a major spot but a series loss puts them to a three-way tiebreaker to avoid relegation.

Also, goonsquad is putting up a solid performance so far taking the first map and stopping the alchemist draft from Gladiators.
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In Southeast Asia, newcomer Talon Esports surprisingly secured a slot, endangering T1 or even Fnatic. Currently watching Fnatic and T1. Hoping Fnatic will win in order to seal their slot to Arlington.



I bet to T1 with +1.5 but I guess I need to say goodbye early to my bet because they seems experimenting on there game 2 pick. They pick pudge as pos1 for Gabbi which we all know this hero is frequently use on trolling in Sea pub as carry. I don’t know if they can win this but Fnatic Line up is very solid with TA and Puck as there carry.

They need a good black hole to win this which I don’t if they can manage to execute with this line-up. Smh  Roll Eyes

In fairness, Gabbi manage to use properly Pudge carry from early to Mid game. It's just this kind of hero has an expiration of effectiveness when facing against hard carry like TA. Those last clash on Rosh pit cause them the game because over commit to Roshan Fnatic wipe them out 1 by 1 since they didn't expect that Fnatic will still contest.

It's very enjoyable to watch the game especially to our local caster that very biased on supporting T1.

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In Southeast Asia, newcomer Talon Esports surprisingly secured a slot, endangering T1 or even Fnatic. Currently watching Fnatic and T1. Hoping Fnatic will win in order to seal their slot to Arlington.



I bet to T1 with +1.5 but I guess I need to say goodbye early to my bet because they seems experimenting on there game 2 pick. They pick pudge as pos1 for Gabbi which we all know this hero is frequently use on trolling in Sea pub as carry. I don’t know if they can win this but Fnatic Line up is very solid with TA and Puck as there carry.

They need a good black hole to win this which I don’t if they can manage to execute with this line-up. Smh  Roll Eyes
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OG losing to Liquid somehow indirectly affected Team Secret. It minimized Team Secret's chances to qualify. Because if OG won, there could've been 2 slots available for Entity, Team Secret, and Team Liquid. And Team Secret already smashed Team Liquid before with 2-0. Now Team Secret will play against Entity whom they already lost earlier. It's a tougher game to them I believe.

I see so instead of just a two way tie breaker, it could be a 3-way tie breaker for 2 slots. Thats literally 66% chance to get one compared to 50% chance so yeah but Liquid was just way better against OG although OG seems to be stomping the other teams. It wasnt even close at all, Liquid totally owned them in both of the map so yeah it was expected

Currently watching Fnatic and T1. Hoping Fnatic will win in order to seal their slot to Arlington.

Pulling a sucker safe bet for Fnatic because I have lost decent amount yesterday

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I'm waiting excitedly for the quarter final round of the IEM Cologne tournament to start. There are MOUZ - Astralis and Movistar Riders - Liquid games ahead first. My favourite sides are Astralis and Movistar Riders honestly. MOUZ have been really impressive so far and they still have a chance for the semi finals too of course. However I still see Astralis one step ahead of them. They would be able to get past MOUZ by 2-1. As for the other matchup, I've loved Movistar Riders' performance so far a lot. They even made big difficulties for NaVi. Considering that I think that they can eliminate Liquid also.
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Yup, if they lose against OG they'll join the tiebreaker together with Entity and Secret.

Damn Secret is still alive and kicking. Is it really possible for OG to not play seriously against Liquid in order to further diminish Team Secret's chances of joining the upcoming last majors? OG only needs 1 DPC point and it will be secured to TI already.

Well actually the result for OG vs Liquid wont really affect Team Secret. OG lost the game therefore there will be 2nd-3rd place tiebreaker between OG and Liquid once again, the result wont affect OG at all because they have secured both Major spot as well as TI11 spot

As for Team Secret, they will be playing against entity for the 4th-5th place tiebreaker. Winner of this tiebreaker will be getting the last spot for Major well in this case both teams need it badly to improve their chance for TI11 so this is going to be interesting game on Saturday but I doubt we'll be able to bet on tiebreakers though
OG losing to Liquid somehow indirectly affected Team Secret. It minimized Team Secret's chances to qualify. Because if OG won, there could've been 2 slots available for Entity, Team Secret, and Team Liquid. And Team Secret already smashed Team Liquid before with 2-0. Now Team Secret will play against Entity whom they already lost earlier. It's a tougher game to them I believe.

Regional eliminators are getting more interesting and exciting in their latest stage. I will try to YOLO on Team Aster as LGD may not play seriously.

In South America, regional favorites beastcoast and Thunder Awaken will still battle it out, with the loser in danger of losing the last slot to Infamous.

In North America things are getting more colorful too with regional powerhouse EG and Quincy threatened by nouns.

In eastern Europe, favorites Team Spirit and BetBoom Team are all of a sudden on the brink of elimination with only 1 of them heading to Arlington. Unless NaVi and Outsiders will suffer upsets in their last matches which seem unlikely.

In Southeast Asia, newcomer Talon Esports surprisingly secured a slot, endangering T1 or even Fnatic. Currently watching Fnatic and T1. Hoping Fnatic will win in order to seal their slot to Arlington.

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