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Topic: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? - page 29. (Read 198829 times)

legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1000
The Ethereum price broke below 0.014 bitcoin earlier. But the dollar price is still above $10.0 now.

My instincts are telling me sub 0.01, but I'm hesitant to listen closely to them given the number of unexpected rallies (and whales) this thing has.

It can go sub 0.01 but I'm also hesitant to expect a big drop in terms of fiat, the maximum I can see it fall is $7-8 and that's not a given, clear support is at $10 for now and I don't think it will break unless there are some very bad news.

On the other hand, any kind of good news would create a small rally (it has been very quiet after devcon2 and with plenty of bad news concerning the constant attacks).

My investment on Ethereum is in fiat right now so I'm not concerned at all, I'm not day trading this anymore since it's not very logical. We'll see how it goes in an year or so.

Bitcoin pump will end soon, yes that's right, this is just a pump based on lighting network, segwit and yuan losing power. It will come back down to low 600s soon.
legendary
Activity: 2842
Merit: 1511
The Ethereum price broke below 0.014 bitcoin earlier. But the dollar price is still above $10.0 now.

My instincts are telling me sub 0.01, but I'm hesitant to listen closely to them given the number of unexpected rallies (and whales) this thing has.
hero member
Activity: 1918
Merit: 564
Ethereum has potencial to grow fast i think i need to try this kind of altcoin maybe ethereum will be the next or second in bitcoin in the future..
I saw in the chart that the price of Ethereum is increasing fast in few weeks.. or months.. i hope after i buy it will increase more to make some profit with coin..

It has consumed its potential in my opinion.  It has been pump hard, dump hard then pump hard again.  This price is purely manipulation, the way i see it.  So no for me.  I won't be moving my bitcoin just to buy this token.  There is far more important investment out there than buying into this purely manipulated market. ( not saying they can hardfork ETH anytime they want)
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
Broke below support with long term indicators, such as the 200-day SMA, trending down. I'd have thought whale-tard would have stepped in, but he seems to be conspicuously absent.

The Ethereum price broke below 0.014 bitcoin earlier. But the dollar price is still above $10.0 now.
legendary
Activity: 2842
Merit: 1511
Broke below support with long term indicators, such as the 200-day SMA, trending down. I'd have thought whale-tard would have stepped in, but he seems to be conspicuously absent.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
i wonder how much BTC is hurting ETH? I thought after the hard fork  that everyone would switch, I was totally surprised on what happened afterwards. It almost makes me wonder which one to keep. But, I think ETH will stay on top, but it would help if ETC would go away, but probably won't happen soon.

The ETH is not hurt by the bitcoin. It is hurt by the ZCash. More funds will be diverted into the ZCash in the short term.
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
i wonder how much BTC is hurting ETH? I thought after the hard fork  that everyone would switch, I was totally surprised on what happened afterwards. It almost makes me wonder which one to keep. But, I think ETH will stay on top, but it would help if ETC would go away, but probably won't happen soon.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
If the hard fork second time is successful, then the Ethereum price could rise from the current low levels.
hero member
Activity: 2688
Merit: 540
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Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.

If any coin is to succeed in the long term it needs to be tested for safety and resilience. Trial by fire so to speak. So I'm actually glad that people are performing attacks, it's the only way to find out if the technology stands to survive or not on a larger scale.

Agree with this,  human  attacks  to a certain  technology  could somehow a good  move though  in order to  test a  particular thing  if it  would survive  for  long . In the case of ETH  i could somehow say  that its quite a good coin for me   inspite  of all issues  regarding into it  into the past months and years.
ETH was actually going places before the attacks! Notwithstanding it did not lose all its shine and on the flip side, all these attacks can end up bringing to the fore the doggedness of the coin and people would count that as plus. ETH has been one coin that puts bitcoin on its toes and thus creating keen competition, which presents opportunities for profit making for the traders that are looking at the right pictures.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/58i8e0/update_on_hf_2_and_client_optimizations/?st=iuqn0x15&sh=4621f3c6

Update on HF 2 and client optimizations

Geth developers are working on an optimization that will store a direct on-disk table representing account storage, allowing accounts to be accessed in O(1) leveldb reads instead of O(log(n)) leveldb reads as is the case now. Preliminary tests suggest a 5x speedup in processing account reads if this is done. This is a fairly large change to the client (not quite but almost as complex as journaling) so don't expect it out tomorrow, but it will make a large difference.
Simpler optimizations on the in-memory trie cache are achieving ~30% speedups.
We're looking at simple forms of state tree pruning to allow nodes to reduce their storage size without having to delete the DB and fast sync from scratch. This should increase processing time indirectly.
The main debate in the hard fork discussions is whether to implement EIP 158 with section 2 or with (1c) (there is little value in doing both). The two carry different risks; section 2 is more complex from an in-EVM consensus standpoint, whereas (1c) requires more substantial re-architectures in other areas of geth to implement, as iterating through all accounts is not a use case that needed to be supported in all nodes before.
We are considering adding replay protection, likely either EIP 155 or a simpler trick involving using the upper bits of the tx nonce as a chain ID, but nothing is yet finalized.
hero member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 657
No dream is too big and no dreamer is too small
Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.

If any coin is to succeed in the long term it needs to be tested for safety and resilience. Trial by fire so to speak. So I'm actually glad that people are performing attacks, it's the only way to find out if the technology stands to survive or not on a larger scale.

Agree with this,  human  attacks  to a certain  technology  could somehow a good  move though  in order to  test a  particular thing  if it  would survive  for  long . In the case of ETH  i could somehow say  that its quite a good coin for me   inspite  of all issues  regarding into it  into the past months and years.
ETH was actually going places before the attacks! Notwithstanding it did not lose all its shine and on the flip side, all these attacks can end up bringing to the fore the doggedness of the coin and people would count that as plus. ETH has been one coin that puts bitcoin on its toes and thus creating keen competition, which presents opportunities for profit making for the traders that are looking at the right pictures.

I agree with that. The Ethereum is still quite young. But it has very good community support at the moment.
hero member
Activity: 1134
Merit: 517
Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.

If any coin is to succeed in the long term it needs to be tested for safety and resilience. Trial by fire so to speak. So I'm actually glad that people are performing attacks, it's the only way to find out if the technology stands to survive or not on a larger scale.

Agree with this,  human  attacks  to a certain  technology  could somehow a good  move though  in order to  test a  particular thing  if it  would survive  for  long . In the case of ETH  i could somehow say  that its quite a good coin for me   inspite  of all issues  regarding into it  into the past months and years.
ETH was actually going places before the attacks! Notwithstanding it did not lose all its shine and on the flip side, all these attacks can end up bringing to the fore the doggedness of the coin and people would count that as plus. ETH has been one coin that puts bitcoin on its toes and thus creating keen competition, which presents opportunities for profit making for the traders that are looking at the right pictures.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
BULL RUN until 2030
ethereum has been hacked so many times and failed now its just another useless altcoin ... one guy just keeps insanely buying it up instead of letting it crap its pants and find its real value ... w/e if he wants to lose his bitcoin fortune.

thats exactly what is happening.
I actually do not hold bitcoins for the future but i am just dancing with the current trend of ETH, it is very predictable and if you will play with it you acn easily make money even in a short period of time.
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
ethereum has been hacked so many times and failed now its just another useless altcoin ... one guy just keeps insanely buying it up instead of letting it crap its pants and find its real value ... w/e if he wants to lose his bitcoin fortune.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.

If any coin is to succeed in the long term it needs to be tested for safety and resilience. Trial by fire so to speak. So I'm actually glad that people are performing attacks, it's the only way to find out if the technology stands to survive or not on a larger scale.

Agree with this,  human  attacks  to a certain  technology  could somehow a good  move though  in order to  test a  particular thing  if it  would survive  for  long . In the case of ETH  i could somehow say  that its quite a good coin for me   inspite  of all issues  regarding into it  into the past months and years.

It is better for the Etheruem or the bitcoin to be attacked when it is still young. The related loss will be limited.

that is right. If the Ethereum is attacked when its market cap is just $1 billion, the loss will be smaller.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.

If any coin is to succeed in the long term it needs to be tested for safety and resilience. Trial by fire so to speak. So I'm actually glad that people are performing attacks, it's the only way to find out if the technology stands to survive or not on a larger scale.

Agree with this,  human  attacks  to a certain  technology  could somehow a good  move though  in order to  test a  particular thing  if it  would survive  for  long . In the case of ETH  i could somehow say  that its quite a good coin for me   inspite  of all issues  regarding into it  into the past months and years.

It is better for the Etheruem or the bitcoin to be attacked when it is still young. The related loss will be limited.
hero member
Activity: 2688
Merit: 540
DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.

If any coin is to succeed in the long term it needs to be tested for safety and resilience. Trial by fire so to speak. So I'm actually glad that people are performing attacks, it's the only way to find out if the technology stands to survive or not on a larger scale.

Agree with this,  human  attacks  to a certain  technology  could somehow a good  move though  in order to  test a  particular thing  if it  would survive  for  long . In the case of ETH  i could somehow say  that its quite a good coin for me   inspite  of all issues  regarding into it  into the past months and years.

The ETH is quite good. It is going to fork again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/58i8e0/update_on_hf_2_and_client_optimizations/?st=iulbbti4&sh=44772d5b

Geth developers are working on an optimization that will store a direct on-disk table representing account storage, allowing accounts to be accessed in O(1) leveldb reads instead of O(log(n)) leveldb reads as is the case now. Preliminary tests suggest a 5x speedup in processing account reads if this is done. This is a fairly large change to the client (not quite but almost as complex as journaling) so don't expect it out tomorrow, but it will make a large difference.
Simpler optimizations on the in-memory trie cache are achieving ~30% speedups.
We're looking at simple forms of state tree pruning to allow nodes to reduce their storage size without having to delete the DB and fast sync from scratch. This should increase processing time indirectly.
The main debate in the hard fork discussions is whether to implement EIP 158 with section 2 or with (1c) (there is little value in doing both). The two carry different risks; section 2 is more complex from an in-EVM consensus standpoint, whereas (1c) requires more substantial re-architectures in other areas of geth to implement, as iterating through all accounts is not a use case that needed to be supported in all nodes before.
We are considering adding replay protection, likely either EIP 155 or a simpler trick involving using the upper bits of the tx nonce as a chain ID, but nothing is yet finalized.

legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1127
Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.

If any coin is to succeed in the long term it needs to be tested for safety and resilience. Trial by fire so to speak. So I'm actually glad that people are performing attacks, it's the only way to find out if the technology stands to survive or not on a larger scale.

Agree with this,  human  attacks  to a certain  technology  could somehow a good  move though  in order to  test a  particular thing  if it  would survive  for  long . In the case of ETH  i could somehow say  that its quite a good coin for me   inspite  of all issues  regarding into it  into the past months and years.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.

If any coin is to succeed in the long term it needs to be tested for safety and resilience. Trial by fire so to speak. So I'm actually glad that people are performing attacks, it's the only way to find out if the technology stands to survive or not on a larger scale.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1000
This now is very imposinle is ethereum can move take over and replace bitcoin
all crypto coin and altcoin still need bitcoin to excahage in fiat money
all altcoin not run without bitcoin
maybe 5 year ago etherum can replace position bitcoin

It is not possible for the Etheruem to replace the bitcoin at the moment. It is under attack all the time now.

Actually this will help the network long term but it's getting a little tiresome, let's see how the next fork goes and if there are any upcoming news with Casper. The price doesn't seem to be dropping below $10 anytime soon even with no news and regular attacks.
sr. member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 278
This now is very imposinle is ethereum can move take over and replace bitcoin
all crypto coin and altcoin still need bitcoin to excahage in fiat money
all altcoin not run without bitcoin
maybe 5 year ago etherum can replace position bitcoin

It is not possible for the Etheruem to replace the bitcoin at the moment. It is under attack all the time now.
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