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newbie
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When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
It wont fail, a queue will form and pay back investors. The scheme will not just "Fail", eventually people might end up having to wait to get paid. I don't know what will happen. We will see. This is the reason we only kept it at 10% and plan on bumping required confirmations to around a day. So people will have to wait a day to get returns.
I don't know how this will pan out, It will be interesting. But I will try to keep the system within its own limits so there is funds to pay back to all investors.

Ok, if you will increase number of confirmations to 1000 this will take much more time, and maybe never happens. But you still control investing address, have it private key, right?

Like I said earlier. For TODAY, EASTER, and the GRAND OPENING/Launch.
We will leave it at 10 confirmations. After today we will push that number up alot more. We have been estimating around 2500, that should be around 24h for investors to get a return.
Please answer my question about who controls investing address. Is it trustless system or not?
Yes, I control the private keys for the payout address. The entire system is automatic and I will be leaving shortly for Easter stuff...
When I get back (Tonight) I will probably bump the confirmations up so payouts wont be as fast.


So this is possible scam without big difference from other ponzi schemes Smiley. What will prevent you from dump this coins and leave when this coin will get some value on exchanges?

This isn't anything like other ponzis. For one, yes is very similiar to a ponzi. But a ponzi by definition uses new investor funds to pay out old investors. We have wealth creation built into this system, so its not using any investor funds to pay out the next person. So by definition this is NOT a ponzi.
But we can call it that for simplicity sake.
I have zero reasons to dump the premine and run away from this coin. Zero reasons. The premine hasn't moved, there is still 19k in the wallet. 2k of which needs to be paid out. 1k for OC miner supvnova adding us.
Another 1k for the next pools. We will use alot for promotional giveaways to get people interested etc. Shoot me your address Ill send you 10 coins so you can start getting more too.
It is zero loss on your part because you can keep sending in and getting more free coins without ever having to have paid a nickel for any of them.
Your right. There is a certain amount of trust involved which I understand.
I intend on building this trust with everyone once you see I am here to stay. (eTRUST)
But again, don't take my word for it stick around and just see.

newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
I will leave the max buyin at 250, and confirmations at 10 for today. We will slow it down later tonight though.
So please, before you are sending in. Double check the buy ins and do not go over/under them.
Happy Easter and Happy Mining!
Before the amounts/confirmations change I will post and tweet about it. All changes that are made from here on out I will give everyone a heads up in advance and post about updates and news on the threads and twitter.
full member
Activity: 156
Merit: 100
When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
It wont fail, a queue will form and pay back investors. The scheme will not just "Fail", eventually people might end up having to wait to get paid. I don't know what will happen. We will see. This is the reason we only kept it at 10% and plan on bumping required confirmations to around a day. So people will have to wait a day to get returns.
I don't know how this will pan out, It will be interesting. But I will try to keep the system within its own limits so there is funds to pay back to all investors.

Ok, if you will increase number of confirmations to 1000 this will take much more time, and maybe never happens. But you still control investing address, have it private key, right?

Like I said earlier. For TODAY, EASTER, and the GRAND OPENING/Launch.
We will leave it at 10 confirmations. After today we will push that number up alot more. We have been estimating around 2500, that should be around 24h for investors to get a return.
Please answer my question about who controls investing address. Is it trustless system or not?
Yes, I control the private keys for the payout address. The entire system is automatic and I will be leaving shortly for Easter stuff...
When I get back (Tonight) I will probably bump the confirmations up so payouts wont be as fast.


So this is possible scam without big difference from other ponzi schemes Smiley. What will prevent you from dump this coins and leave when this coin will get some value on exchanges?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
It wont fail, a queue will form and pay back investors. The scheme will not just "Fail", eventually people might end up having to wait to get paid. I don't know what will happen. We will see. This is the reason we only kept it at 10% and plan on bumping required confirmations to around a day. So people will have to wait a day to get returns.
I don't know how this will pan out, It will be interesting. But I will try to keep the system within its own limits so there is funds to pay back to all investors.

Ok, if you will increase number of confirmations to 1000 this will take much more time, and maybe never happens. But you still control investing address, have it private key, right?

Like I said earlier. For TODAY, EASTER, and the GRAND OPENING/Launch.
We will leave it at 10 confirmations. After today we will push that number up alot more. We have been estimating around 2500, that should be around 24h for investors to get a return.
Please answer my question about who controls investing address. Is it trustless system or not?
Yes, I control the private keys for the payout address. The entire system is automatic and I will be leaving shortly for Easter stuff...
When I get back (Tonight) I will probably bump the confirmations up so payouts wont be as fast.
full member
Activity: 156
Merit: 100
When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
It wont fail, a queue will form and pay back investors. The scheme will not just "Fail", eventually people might end up having to wait to get paid. I don't know what will happen. We will see. This is the reason we only kept it at 10% and plan on bumping required confirmations to around a day. So people will have to wait a day to get returns.
I don't know how this will pan out, It will be interesting. But I will try to keep the system within its own limits so there is funds to pay back to all investors.

Ok, if you will increase number of confirmations to 1000 this will take much more time, and maybe never happens. But you still control investing address, have it private key, right?

Like I said earlier. For TODAY, EASTER, and the GRAND OPENING/Launch.
We will leave it at 10 confirmations. After today we will push that number up alot more. We have been estimating around 2500, that should be around 24h for investors to get a return.
Please answer my question about who controls investing address. Is it trustless system or not?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
It wont fail, a queue will form and pay back investors. The scheme will not just "Fail", eventually people might end up having to wait to get paid. I don't know what will happen. We will see. This is the reason we only kept it at 10% and plan on bumping required confirmations to around a day. So people will have to wait a day to get returns.
I don't know how this will pan out, It will be interesting. But I will try to keep the system within its own limits so there is funds to pay back to all investors.

Ok, if you will increase number of confirmations to 1000 this will take much more time, and maybe never happens. But you still control investing address, have it private key, right?

Like I said earlier. For TODAY, EASTER, and the GRAND OPENING/Launch.
We will leave it at 10 confirmations. After today we will push that number up alot more. We have been estimating around 2500, that should be around 24h for investors to get a return.
full member
Activity: 156
Merit: 100
When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
It wont fail, a queue will form and pay back investors. The scheme will not just "Fail", eventually people might end up having to wait to get paid. I don't know what will happen. We will see. This is the reason we only kept it at 10% and plan on bumping required confirmations to around a day. So people will have to wait a day to get returns.
I don't know how this will pan out, It will be interesting. But I will try to keep the system within its own limits so there is funds to pay back to all investors.

Ok, if you will increase number of confirmations to 1000 this will take much more time, and maybe never happens. But you still control investing address, have it private key, right?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Max buyin has been increased to 250. 5 seems a bit to small?
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
@BinPool up and launch - http://etrust.binpool.com/

Spread hash on our pool.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Great idea, but 20k premine. I will keep my eyes on it, but I have bad anticipation.
Shoot me your address. I'll give you 10 coins free from the premine. I said we will use it for promotions, bounties and giveaways.
I intend on keeping my promises.
Everything is transparent.
member
Activity: 108
Merit: 10
Great idea, but 20k premine. I will keep my eyes on it, but I have bad anticipation.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Amazing, the irst guaranteed ponzi Grin Let's see where this ends up...
Yes, Thats what I was aiming for. After seeing everyone lose on the other sites I decided I would see what will happen if we created a ponzi that didn't end, and always paid.
So we made this coin. we had been talking about it for a while.
The reason we are taking 80% is to keep enough funds in the ponzi to ALWAYS pay out HOWEVER.
After a while the funds WILL DRY UP. At which point a queue will form for investors and they will get paid off as the blocks move, IF the funds dry up.
This is why we have the max buyins set at only 5, we need to test the limits before we can see how much % we can payout, and max buyins. It will take time to tweak it.
For today though we are leaving it at 10 confirmations (Happy Easter), soon we will be putting that number a bit higher so investor have to wait around 1 day to get returns.


I see you guys are taking this like an experiment and aren't afraid about it. Sounds good. But people will lose interest...

I'm not trying to treat this like an experiment. I just want to keep the system within its own bounds so EVERYONE gets paid. I don't want people to lose money.
And if I have to tweak the settings to keep people from losing I will. As it sits now its pretty impossible for people to lose. And I don't think funds will dry up. We re only leaving it at ten confirmations for a little bit today to show everyone its working and paying out. We will be pushing up the req. confirmations over 1000 later because the idea was for people to invest, and within a day they will get paid back. Requiring more confirmations is an easy way to make investors wait to get a decent return.
Like I said, we are not trying to treat it like an experiment, but in all honesty, I can't leave the system alone without tweaking it and expect it to stay within its bounds and always have funds available to pay out.
For this reason we will change what we need until we find a "sweet spot" that works well, and keeps funds in the wallet so everyone gets paid out. It should be quite a while before the funds start diminishing but we will see. I'm not trying to experiment, I'm just trying to make sure everyone gets paid...
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
Amazing, the irst guaranteed ponzi Grin Let's see where this ends up...
Yes, Thats what I was aiming for. After seeing everyone lose on the other sites I decided I would see what will happen if we created a ponzi that didn't end, and always paid.
So we made this coin. we had been talking about it for a while.
The reason we are taking 80% is to keep enough funds in the ponzi to ALWAYS pay out HOWEVER.
After a while the funds WILL DRY UP. At which point a queue will form for investors and they will get paid off as the blocks move, IF the funds dry up.
This is why we have the max buyins set at only 5, we need to test the limits before we can see how much % we can payout, and max buyins. It will take time to tweak it.
For today though we are leaving it at 10 confirmations (Happy Easter), soon we will be putting that number a bit higher so investor have to wait around 1 day to get returns.


I see you guys are taking this like an experiment and aren't afraid about it. Sounds good. But people will lose interest...
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
Calling us a scam as we get out feet off the ground is simply not the way to do things.
We will try to make sure everyone gets paid, if the funds start to dry up, then we will push up the number of confirmations required. Lower the max buy in, or perhaps only accept a certain amount of TX daily. We will do everything we can do keep the system within its bounds so EVERYONE GETS PAID. It's also a good system for distribution because POS can become lopsided to only the large holders.
Right now, Everyone will win. There is plenty funds available for everyone to tap into.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
It wont fail, a queue will form and pay back investors. The scheme will not just "Fail", eventually people might end up having to wait to get paid. I don't know what will happen. We will see. This is the reason we only kept it at 10% and plan on bumping required confirmations to around a day. So people will have to wait a day to get returns.
I don't know how this will pan out, It will be interesting. But I will try to keep the system within its own limits so there is funds to pay back to all investors.
full member
Activity: 156
Merit: 100
When amount of 'invested' coins will reach 4000, balance of investing address will start decreasing. If all mined coins will be sent to paying address, it ballance will start drowning very fast and pyramid will fail in a few days.
Fair ponzi scheme is intersting thing itself, but, because dev saying ' guaranteed 10% return every day.' this is scam.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Amazing, the irst guaranteed ponzi Grin Let's see where this ends up...
Yes, Thats what I was aiming for. After seeing everyone lose on the other sites I decided I would see what will happen if we created a ponzi that didn't end, and always paid.
So we made this coin. we had been talking about it for a while.
The reason we are taking 80% is to keep enough funds in the ponzi to ALWAYS pay out HOWEVER.
After a while the funds WILL DRY UP. At which point a queue will form for investors and they will get paid off as the blocks move, IF the funds dry up.
This is why we have the max buyins set at only 5, we need to test the limits before we can see how much % we can payout, and max buyins. It will take time to tweak it.
For today though we are leaving it at 10 confirmations (Happy Easter), soon we will be putting that number a bit higher so investor have to wait around 1 day to get returns.
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
Amazing, the irst guaranteed ponzi Grin Let's see where this ends up...
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
I don't know if it'll ever be profitable, but so far is quite entertaining  Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Please look at the min and max buyins prior to sending in the coins. Someone just sent in 285, Max buy-ins will be pushed up, but until we find out what an "Average number" of coins users have, we are leaving it at five for now.
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