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April 21, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
that so bad, i still have some eur Tongue
I think this is bad for the economy in europe but this is good news for americans Tongue
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April 21, 2015, 02:57:38 PM

What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

Why so that tyrants and banksters can control and rob us? Why is it so necessary to have a tyrant controlling us?

What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

I suppose he means negative liberty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty

No i mean voluntarysm, or shall we say anarcho-capitalism. Capitalism has it's structure, it's not total chaos, but without a ruler. Many people would compete with eachother without restrains or regulations.

Everything bad in this world came from regulations and corporative privileges, in true capitalism there would be no restrictions on business.

So you support some kind of night-watchman state?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state

No I support no state. You cannot have a minimal government. Thats like saying to your local car thief to only rob the rear-view window from your car.

Society should be organized by the free market without thug interference: Anarcho-capitalism
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April 21, 2015, 07:04:06 AM
Ive been saying repeatedly for some time that the Euro can and WILL be sacrificed if it'll save the USD, i.e. preserve its GRC status.

You think Cyprus was 'unique'? Try the US and its Fed/FRNs: they are so frikkin Special (Chosen!) that they can print at (divine) will.

The war between the US vs Russia & China is escalating.

It looks more like the US is actually losing if it comes to trashing the Euro. The next move will be to spread the fire of civil war from Ukraine to the rest of Europe...

Just buy bitcoins and move to hong kong, you could have a nice future there.
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April 19, 2015, 04:29:09 PM
Ive been saying repeatedly for some time that the Euro can and WILL be sacrificed if it'll save the USD, i.e. preserve its GRC status.

You think Cyprus was 'unique'? Try the US and its Fed/FRNs: they are so frikkin Special (Chosen!) that they can print at (divine) will.

The war between the US vs Russia & China is escalating.

It looks more like the US is actually losing if it comes to trashing the Euro. The next move will be to spread the fire of civil war from Ukraine to the rest of Europe...
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April 19, 2015, 12:59:02 PM
If European Union collapse EUR drop a lot under USD. If Greece will come out price may be = USD.
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April 19, 2015, 12:53:52 PM
@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.

@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.

Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes.

Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception.

So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line.

If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship?

No the best model is: Freedom. Democracy is just another form of "subtle" slavery.



What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

Do you think freedom for one means that another one has to be a slave? Consequently, instead of action for freedom, you strive to insert yourself amongst the elites by confusing the lowly masses? That is what I call black occultism.
 

Well, there are studies that say if we distributed all the wealth in the world evenly person per person, everyone would be able to live the same life quality the poor class in mexico has. The question is, do you want to live like that in behalf of global equality?

So that is what you want, because you can not see an alternative that is satisfactory for yourself. "Studies" may say that, but think of all the prosperity that the freedom could produce, through capitalism and trade. I think any bit of freedom is positive, and freedom for people in one currently underdeveloped country would produce wealth by its own, not remove what you already have. On the contrary, it will make you richer too.


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April 19, 2015, 12:32:49 PM
@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.

@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.

Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes.

Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception.

So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line.

If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship?

No the best model is: Freedom. Democracy is just another form of "subtle" slavery.



What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

Do you think freedom for one means that another one has to be a slave? Consequently, instead of action for freedom, you strive to insert yourself amongst the elites by confusing the lowly masses? That is what I call black occultism.
 

Well, there are studies that say if we distributed all the wealth in the world evenly person per person, everyone would be able to live the same life quality the poor class in mexico has. The question is, do you want to live like that in behalf of global equality?
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April 19, 2015, 05:32:16 AM
@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.

@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.

Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes.

Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception.

So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line.

If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship?

No the best model is: Freedom. Democracy is just another form of "subtle" slavery.



What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

Do you think freedom for one means that another one has to be a slave? Consequently, instead of action for freedom, you strive to insert yourself amongst the elites by confusing the lowly masses? That is what I call black occultism.
 
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April 19, 2015, 01:52:09 AM

What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

Why so that tyrants and banksters can control and rob us? Why is it so necessary to have a tyrant controlling us?

What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

I suppose he means negative liberty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty

No i mean voluntarysm, or shall we say anarcho-capitalism. Capitalism has it's structure, it's not total chaos, but without a ruler. Many people would compete with eachother without restrains or regulations.

Everything bad in this world came from regulations and corporative privileges, in true capitalism there would be no restrictions on business.

So you support some kind of night-watchman state?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state
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April 18, 2015, 10:14:51 PM

What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

Why so that tyrants and banksters can control and rob us? Why is it so necessary to have a tyrant controlling us?

What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

I suppose he means negative liberty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty

No i mean voluntarysm, or shall we say anarcho-capitalism. Capitalism has it's structure, it's not total chaos, but without a ruler. Many people would compete with eachother without restrains or regulations.

Everything bad in this world came from regulations and corporative privileges, in true capitalism there would be no restrictions on business.
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April 18, 2015, 05:34:49 AM
When democracy was born in ancient Greece it was used to govern
city states with population less than 200 000 citizens.
In the current situation I don't think we (USA, EU)
even have democracy anymore. It's more like plutocracy
with democratic structures.



I agree, it's an oligarchy of the northern EU states that are creating slavery from the peripheral EU countries. It's another autocratic system of colonialism. Now because they can't get anything left out of Africa and Asia they wanna milk the southern European countries. China has now its big foot in Africa and at least is giving some infrastructure and jobs to the Locals..EU autocrats are taking away jobs, economies and sovereignty.. They will be pleased to see Greece selling off its national assets to feed Shoimble and his cronies.. I hope EURO drops more because I live in the Eurozone but Hubby gets paid in usd lol
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April 18, 2015, 05:06:07 AM
That's very smart of you. Just wish , even my bank could have allowed me to do so.
Not possible in m country. Sad

Why it is not possible? If it is not possible through banks, then try some other way around. There are currency exchanges in every nook and corner of India. Many of them won't even ask for any identification as well.
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April 18, 2015, 02:26:13 AM
What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?

I suppose he means negative liberty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty
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April 18, 2015, 02:15:09 AM
When democracy was born in ancient Greece it was used to govern
city states with population less than 200 000 citizens.
In the current situation I don't think we (USA, EU)
even have democracy anymore. It's more like plutocracy
with democratic structures.

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April 18, 2015, 12:51:44 AM
@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.

@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.

Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes.

Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception.

So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line.

If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship?

No the best model is: Freedom. Democracy is just another form of "subtle" slavery.



What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?
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April 17, 2015, 11:33:43 PM

see, every system has it's own problem. You see  China is struggling with it's system. No human right, so much frustration.
County like India is struggling with it's democracy as well.
Middle east countries are also struggling with their kingdom structure.
Everyone is fed up.
We need a rest button.

So no sources, just speculation? I'm not saying there aren't problems. But you have to work with what you have. At the moment that's a form of democracy. Referendums help bring issues to public attention. And to start debates. Far from perfect, but what are you proposing instead? And I mean realistic proposals with what we have now.

We don't need a system. It's the craziest idea to have a system which extorts people and robs their bank accounts or counterfeits money to feed the political parasites.

Or in other more technical words: taxation, bank freeze, quantitative easing, fractional reserve. I like to call these out what they really are.

Great. But that still doesn't say how we get from where we are to there. Try explaining that to the people on the street. Chances are they know little of what you're talking about. Or actually support the system or part of it. That's why I say starting public dialogue like this is important. You can't just tear down what exists now and expect things to suddenly change for the better. You have to take it one step at the time.
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April 17, 2015, 04:08:13 PM
@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.

@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.

Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes.

Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception.

So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line.

If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship?

No the best model is: Freedom. Democracy is just another form of "subtle" slavery.
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April 17, 2015, 04:39:02 AM
The biggest upcoming problem will be the uk referendum in 2017 about leaving the eu.
additionaly grexit + marine le pen as french president...

Gonna be stormy times for europe

europe will face tough years. something that was supposed to bring us wealth is now making us poorer than ever. we citizens can only hope for the best.

Hope is not enough. I recently opened a bank account outside the euro zone that allows me to hold USD balance.

I convert a certain amount of Euro's into USD just in case something bad happens with the Euro. I am prepared.

That's very smart of you. Just wish , even my bank could have allowed me to do so.
Not possible in m country. Sad
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April 17, 2015, 01:52:22 AM

see, every system has it's own problem. You see  China is struggling with it's system. No human right, so much frustration.
County like India is struggling with it's democracy as well.
Middle east countries are also struggling with their kingdom structure.
Everyone is fed up.
We need a rest button.

So no sources, just speculation? I'm not saying there aren't problems. But you have to work with what you have. At the moment that's a form of democracy. Referendums help bring issues to public attention. And to start debates. Far from perfect, but what are you proposing instead? And I mean realistic proposals with what we have now.

We don't need a system. It's the craziest idea to have a system which extorts people and robs their bank accounts or counterfeits money to feed the political parasites.

Or in other more technical words: taxation, bank freeze, quantitative easing, fractional reserve. I like to call these out what they really are.
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