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Quote from: tokeweed on November 05, 2016, 02:34:22 AM

Yup, bottom line, that's how I see it too. And no amount of managerial change or player acquisitions will ever be a cure for it. I don't even think Pep will be able to find the answer for United's woes.

Pep's performance in manchester city could still not be judged yet as he had not bring any trophies for them yet however he had suceed in his previous club and if he really suceed in bringing trophies for manchester city then of course manchester city wont release their coach to their rival manchester united so he is not an option for united

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Quote from: bajing on November 04, 2016, 08:38:49 PM

Manchester united has lost their mentality be a champion team it's can look after fergie leave, their performance becoming bad year by year maybe manchester united only can manage by fergie or maybe pep must take to manage manchester united.

Yup, bottom line, that's how I see it too. And no amount of managerial change or player acquisitions will ever be a cure for it. I don't even think Pep will be able to find the answer for United's woes. Maybe it's just one of those things where a club really has to start from scratch again in order to get back to its winning ways. Look at Liverpool, they had the same situation, but they are now in the beginning stages of getting back to be regular contenders at the top of the EPL.

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I think Mourinho just doesn't care much about what is happening in the Europa League competition. He is probably more concerned about his team's bad performance in the Premier League. I guess if United don't qualify for the next year's Champions League this will be a massive fail for him as a manager. With how things are going it would be a miracle for United to finish the season in the top 4 places.

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Quote from: bajing on November 04, 2016, 08:38:49 PM

Manchester united has lost their mentality be a champion team it's can look after fergie leave, their performance becoming bad year by year maybe manchester united only can manage by fergie or maybe pep must take to manage manchester united.

Pep might or might not be the suitablr coach for them as there is no guarantee how will he perform in manchester united however he wont be available for atleast few years ahead because he is bound to manchester city so instead if they dont sack mourinho yet then manchester united should be hoping for some miracle to win the europa league

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 04, 2016, 03:27:50 PM

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2016, 11:10:39 PM

What is going on with Man United? Not only will they lose a good manager, but they will also lose good players if they fail yet again to get in the Champions League. And even if they have all the money to acquire any player, I don't think they will get the players they want after this season if it ends up as another failure. Maybe it's United's turn to become like Liverpool, losing their dominance and just let the cup drought take its course...?

What do you guys think? I would like to hear your opinions.

yeah the situation is almost like liverpool a few years a go when they failed in almost all competition, they get so hard to sign a star player and just sign an average player. Just Coutinho, an average player who became the most successful player who joined liverpool in a hard situation. But now Liverpool seems like back to their best under Klopp. But still not sign a super star. Klopp made a superstars.

There were alot of team that actually performed badly last night however the main highlight seems to be always manchester united. They dont really deserve to be the highlight just because financially they are much better than the other as that doesnt really guarantee their performance of course

MU deserves to be highlighted because they have the best squad among other teams in Europa League but they played like an amateur team. Unlike other teams who played badly but with lower quality squad than MU, that makes sense so no need to be highlighted. MU will be still be highlighted in their future matches imho especially if they keep playing like a sh*t.

Manchester united has lost their mentality be a champion team it's can look after fergie leave, their performance becoming bad year by year maybe manchester united only can manage by fergie or maybe pep must take to manage manchester united.

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Quote from: cazkooo on November 04, 2016, 12:36:44 PM

Quote from: siti25 on November 04, 2016, 08:10:01 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2016, 11:10:39 PM

What is going on with Man United? Not only will they lose a good manager, but they will also lose good players if they fail yet again to get in the Champions League. And even if they have all the money to acquire any player, I don't think they will get the players they want after this season if it ends up as another failure. Maybe it's United's turn to become like Liverpool, losing their dominance and just let the cup drought take its course...?

What do you guys think? I would like to hear your opinions.

yeah the situation is almost like liverpool a few years a go when they failed in almost all competition, they get so hard to sign a star player and just sign an average player. Just Coutinho, an average player who became the most successful player who joined liverpool in a hard situation. But now Liverpool seems like back to their best under Klopp. But still not sign a super star. Klopp made a superstars.

There were alot of team that actually performed badly last night however the main highlight seems to be always manchester united. They dont really deserve to be the highlight just because financially they are much better than the other as that doesnt really guarantee their performance of course

MU deserves to be highlighted because they have the best squad among other teams in Europa League but they played like an amateur team. Unlike other teams who played badly but with lower quality squad than MU, that makes sense so no need to be highlighted. MU will be still be highlighted in their future matches imho especially if they keep playing like a sh*t.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2016, 11:10:39 PM

What is going on with Man United? Not only will they lose a good manager, but they will also lose good players if they fail yet again to get in the Champions League. And even if they have all the money to acquire any player, I don't think they will get the players they want after this season if it ends up as another failure. Maybe it's United's turn to become like Liverpool, losing their dominance and just let the cup drought take its course...?

What do you guys think? I would like to hear your opinions.

yeah the situation is almost like liverpool a few years a go when they failed in almost all competition, they get so hard to sign a star player and just sign an average player. Just Coutinho, an average player who became the most successful player who joined liverpool in a hard situation. But now Liverpool seems like back to their best under Klopp. But still not sign a super star. Klopp made a superstars.

There were alot of team that actually performed badly last night however the main highlight seems to be always manchester united. They dont really deserve to be the highlight just because financially they are much better than the other as that doesnt really guarantee their performance of course

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with upcoming Europe league matches tonight i will pick these matches for bets

Schalke - Krasnodar -- Schalke won last game in Russian so how i dont think they will have problem playing home win Schalke
Fiorentina - Liberec -- Same as up mentioned Fiorentina won away now playing home and they wont take any chances win Fiorentina
Southampton - Inter -- in this game I will play double bet under 2.5 goals and win Southampton, think they can do it and they have good team for this

im happy with my income last night i got 3 out of 4 bets on 3 games
bad was me playing on goals on last game didnt really expect to see 3 goals but you can win all matches all the time

Inter isn't good shape currently after sacked their coach the conditions from them still not change and their positions at the bottom of standings Group K with 3 times loses and very surprising that middle team such as Southampton could beat Inter after seeing this results i'm doubt Inter would go to next round

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Quote from: maxhor on November 03, 2016, 12:05:51 PM

Fenerbahce vs Manchester United I think this clash will be tough for both teams because Manchester United will be away into this match and there is good chance for Fenerbahce to save this match by playing on home ground, I have my bet on Fenerbahce home or draw.

I don't agree that much with such logic. I have a different view because last game before 2 weeks Manchester United won 4-0 so it will be very difficult for Fenerbahce to hold a draw tonight unless Manchester United screws up very badly. I think they can assure another narrow win tonight although when playing away in Turkey is never that easy.

Although it was very risky but it was worth to it to place bet on Fenerbahce +0.5, it won this match with their surprising strategy and took down Manchester United there easily, I really enjoyed this match because my money on it and Fenerbahce made me so happy even more than that.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2016, 11:10:39 PM

What is going on with Man United? Not only will they lose a good manager, but they will also lose good players if they fail yet again to get in the Champions League. And even if they have all the money to acquire any player, I don't think they will get the players they want after this season if it ends up as another failure. Maybe it's United's turn to become like Liverpool, losing their dominance and just let the cup drought take its course...?

What do you guys think? I would like to hear your opinions.

yeah the situation is almost like liverpool a few years a go when they failed in almost all competition, they get so hard to sign a star player and just sign an average player. Just Coutinho, an average player who became the most successful player who joined liverpool in a hard situation. But now Liverpool seems like back to their best under Klopp. But still not sign a super star. Klopp made a superstars.

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I was very doubtful about Manchester United and as expected it lost this match there. I was with Anderlecht got high odds for it when it was on home ground. It played hugely entertained scored 6 goals against Mainz. I enjoyed this encounter to see rain of goals there.

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Quote from: Nahl on November 04, 2016, 03:59:15 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2016, 11:10:39 PM

What is going on with Man United? Not only will they lose a good manager, but they will also lose good players if they fail yet again to get in the Champions League. And even if they have all the money to acquire any player, I don't think they will get the players they want after this season if it ends up as another failure. Maybe it's United's turn to become like Liverpool, losing their dominance and just let the cup drought take its course...?

What do you guys think? I would like to hear your opinions.

i had bad feeling that Manchester United will not dominance anymore at EPL and i think yesterday was poor performance from them and too many mistake from Manchester United players even second goal was happened because of De Gea mistake he didn't do anything when the ball rolled into the wicket and basically Manchester United has been humiliated by Fenerbahce

Yet they said they have the best goalkeeper in the Primer league and probably the best in world too. De Gea just stood there watched that goal go in, that free kick is not too fast to be catch, at least try to jump man~ The only goal from Man United came from Wayne Rooney and they was tried so hard to drop him. Hope Paul Pogba injury isn't serious, they need him in premier league before the international break.

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Manchester United once again failed so badly with very expensive line up Fenerbahce was superb and played very managed game with advantage of home ground, but it was good pick to place bet on over 2.5 goals, this is worry situation for Manchester United to think about their game strategy and they to make more clear mind what they want from this league.

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manchester united is lost once again. I don't know why this situation is hapenning to them. The squad is superbly wonderful, the coach is one of the best coach in this decade. With the super squad and super manager, there is no reason for them to get this bad situation. They should be win this tournament easily, not like this.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2016, 11:10:39 PM

What is going on with Man United? Not only will they lose a good manager, but they will also lose good players if they fail yet again to get in the Champions League. And even if they have all the money to acquire any player, I don't think they will get the players they want after this season if it ends up as another failure. Maybe it's United's turn to become like Liverpool, losing their dominance and just let the cup drought take its course...?

What do you guys think? I would like to hear your opinions.

i had bad feeling that Manchester United will not dominance anymore at EPL and i think yesterday was poor performance from them and too many mistake from Manchester United players even second goal was happened because of De Gea mistake he didn't do anything when the ball rolled into the wicket and basically Manchester United has been humiliated by Fenerbahce

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Quote from: azguard on November 03, 2016, 05:55:17 AM

with upcoming Europe league matches tonight i will pick these matches for bets

Schalke - Krasnodar -- Schalke won last game in Russian so how i dont think they will have problem playing home win Schalke
Fiorentina - Liberec -- Same as up mentioned Fiorentina won away now playing home and they wont take any chances win Fiorentina
Southampton - Inter -- in this game I will play double bet under 2.5 goals and win Southampton, think they can do it and they have good team for this

im happy with my income last night i got 3 out of 4 bets on 3 games
bad was me playing on goals on last game didnt really expect to see 3 goals but you can win all matches all the time

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Quote from: emberbekas on November 04, 2016, 12:51:31 AM

Nowadays, MU has unstable performance and I am affraid if this will continue untill the end of the season.

It will if the coach is still mourinho. at the very least they will ended up as top 7 however that doesnt really a guarantee and it will totally depends on few of their next game ahead, if they cant really win anything at all then it will be a disaster because they wont be able to cover their expenses and all the players wage

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2016, 11:10:39 PM

What is going on with Man United? Not only will they lose a good manager, but they will also lose good players if they fail yet again to get in the Champions League. And even if they have all the money to acquire any player, I don't think they will get the players they want after this season if it ends up as another failure. Maybe it's United's turn to become like Liverpool, losing their dominance and just let the cup drought take its course...?

What do you guys think? I would like to hear your opinions.

I bet a lot good players will refuse to join Manchester United if Manchester United failed to reach Champions League next season. Nowadays, MU has unstable performance and I am affraid if this will continue untill the end of the season. And at the other side, it seems Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool already found their best strategy at EPL and this is the other challenge for MU. But, still plenty of games to be played and I wish MU will find they good strategy and can compete to be the best three in the EPL this season.

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Quote from: DimensionZ on November 04, 2016, 12:31:33 AM

I think it was a mistake to sign such expensive players like Pogba and Ibrahimovich.

It was a mistake to sign pogba and unless you dont know , they got ibrahimovic from free transfer and he is quite good to be honest. Mourinho definitely needs to be sacked as he is the main source of the problem, it was just crazy that manchester united decided to hire him after he was sacked by chelsea

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I think it was a mistake to sign such expensive players like Pogba and Ibrahimovich. It should have been a better idea to clear up the old players from the LVG era and find new young talents that after a couple of seasons will be the backbone of this team. Mourinho is trying to patch up the situation with old and experienced players like Rooney and Ibrahimovicha and evidently it's not working. Martial is inconsistent at best and Rashford is the only impressive young player United have at the moment. Mourinho needs to radically build a new roster or he might be setting himself up for a failure.

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