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Topic: Everyone loses money when the market is down right? - page 24. (Read 22173 times)

full member
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Not everyone loses money in decreasing market because there are some ways to make money like margin trading probably.
That's right,  but only few have knew about it and mostly new comers will loss as they do selling their coins at this stage. They aren't have enough knowledge on how to strategies during this season and only expert will margin trading.
jr. member
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Most people lose money but not everyone
sr. member
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If the market down and you have invested ofcoarse we will lose our money. But here's the good news even you lose some money you can invest more and the market up and you will earn more profit than the profit that you expected.
full member
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Does anyone know if its possible an altcoin price to be down every single hour in a 24 hour period?  Like imagine you bought coin at 1 dollar.  Then look at the price and it not once hit above 1 dollar?  Because if thats the case, then isn't it impossible to make any money that day right? 
hero member
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Nothing lasts forever
There are days when BTC and altcoins keep dropping every single hour but then this doesn't happen for a long time and at the end of the say the price gets stable or at least it recovers a bit. It never happens that a coin is keeping on going down continuously unless it is a shitcoin which is about to get trashed. The only time to make profit in such situations is when the coin recovers slightly. It's better to wait until the coin hits the bottom. Buy more at that price and wait for the right time to sell.
hero member
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No not everyone is losing money, some people make money when they short Bitcoin when the market is going down. And some people take this opportunity to buy Bitcoin and altcoin at a low price. When market recover, they will make some profit.
Not all the people are angry about the market. Some are still able to earn or make some good money and this is a good thing, creating a sought of optimism in the market. Besides, the recent surge in the monetary value of Bitcoin was another reason why people started investing so much again.

And speaking about earning when the market is down, so yes this is also possible in case the initial cost of investment is low than the current price at which you trade in the market. There are many possible ways in crypto market.
member
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Everyone loses their money is correct but not everyone who lose their money is at loss.

There are still a trader who can still manage to get profit in this bear market, as you can see on CoinMarketCap, there are always 1-5 coins in the biggest gainer who inclined more than 30% in this bear market, you just need to dig up and research it.
full member
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I think more than 60% of crypto trader loss money now, i also been loss much money more than 70%. I have no idea again and i just hold all my coins, i still trust crypto and will be bullish again in next year. Learn from this crash and make greater trading strategy to avoided big loss is best thing to do now.
hero member
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Yes, they loses their money when the market down because they all panic and just sell it what they want. But if you hold it and be patient they will not loosing their money
Right.You will only lose your money if you are in a panic selling instead of patiently holding your coins in times of dips.And if you doubt gaining profit in trading too with this down market,then you can try other alternatives like participating in signature and bounty campaigns.You can also gain a decent income here as long as it is not a scam one.
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So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money?  Example let say this.  You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips.  Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it.  Now the market goes down every single day.  First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour?  Or is that impossible?


Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this?  Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit.  But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money?  Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit.  However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.


Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems?  Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down?  Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now.  But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.


So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down?  And almost everyone makes money when the market is up?  Because if btc goes up, the alts follow.  BTC drops, everything follows.  Its like there is zero skill at all almost.   Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others.  Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc?  Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.


So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago.  So where is the skill here?  Its basically when to sell and when to buy right?  However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money?  Because isn't almost everyone losing money?  The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy.  Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.


Who is making any money now when the market is down?  The ppl who are selling?  Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before.  Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well?  I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems?  The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here?  I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc.  Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing.  Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money.  Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe.   That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc.  However, the thing is the public does win.  And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money.  But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again.  However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.



So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses?  Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak.  But eventually they win back the average joes money.  But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time.  Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes.  Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing.  If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning.  I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time.  But no matter what, someone has to win.  Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor.  Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading.  Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc.  But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses.  Thus that is where the skill comes in.  So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid?  I mean if market is down, who is making any money?  Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius.  Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.



Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this?  I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it.  But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market.  There doesn't seem to be any skill in it.  Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting?  Thanks.
You can see that the market is constantly falling, the price of both bitcoin and altcoin have been falling dramatically in the past few days, although bitcoin prices have recovered slightly but the prices of altcoin are falling sharply. Therefore, I believe that at the time of trading you should limit your trading and wait for bitcoin to stabilize.
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Yes, they loses their money when the market down because they all panic and just sell it what they want. But if you hold it and be patient they will not loosing their money
jr. member
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Yes,everyone lose money when the market it down.But technically some are losing their principal and some are losing some percentage of the profits.If someone is holding bitcoin bought at $5k is still not losing if the price falls from$7,000 to $6500.Where as of anyone bought bitcoin ast $6900 will be is losses .In crypto markets HODL is the keyword for making profits
member
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Market is in deep. If anyone can identify the market behaviour he will earn money. In that position also. Before tha dump he will trade and buy in deep. That is the strategy of dumping market. Before that youshould observe the market behaviours. If not you will lose more. There are many market prediction sites and channels in the crypto world. You can observe those also. If you no well you can face any dump of the market.
newbie
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In a downtrend market in cryptocurrency, majority of the people lose their money in the market. Their are quite some people that makes money in a downtrend market. If you short bitcoin on bitmex or any other altcoin, you would be making good money
newbie
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Other thing is this.  You say these coins get pumped regardless of the market.  If that is the case and btc and everything goes down, wouldn't that mean if you do this, you buy the coin when its pumping, then sell it off when it starts to dump.  Then you immediately sell it for usdt?  Because if you sell it for btc and keep btc, and btc keeps dropping, then you don't make any money.  Thoughts or comments on this?
No, this sent the case. Yeah this is right that there are so many people who lost money in hard times but this downfall didn’t hurt so many others as well. People are welcome bitcoin even if it is down because they know when it is down, it is more towards themselves. They found it near them and then no other option than to buy this classic coin. This let them sell at high price and earn money.
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So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money?  Example let say this.  You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips.  Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it.  Now the market goes down every single day.  First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour?  Or is that impossible?


Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this?  Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit.  But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money?  Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit.  However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.


Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems?  Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down?  Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now.  But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.


So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down?  And almost everyone makes money when the market is up?  Because if btc goes up, the alts follow.  BTC drops, everything follows.  Its like there is zero skill at all almost.   Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others.  Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc?  Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.


So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago.  So where is the skill here?  Its basically when to sell and when to buy right?  However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money?  Because isn't almost everyone losing money?  The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy.  Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.


Who is making any money now when the market is down?  The ppl who are selling?  Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before.  Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well?  I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems?  The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here?  I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc.  Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing.  Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money.  Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe.   That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc.  However, the thing is the public does win.  And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money.  But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again.  However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.



So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses?  Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak.  But eventually they win back the average joes money.  But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time.  Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes.  Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing.  If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning.  I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time.  But no matter what, someone has to win.  Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor.  Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading.  Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc.  But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses.  Thus that is where the skill comes in.  So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid?  I mean if market is down, who is making any money?  Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius.  Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.



Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this?  I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it.  But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market.  There doesn't seem to be any skill in it.  Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting?  Thanks.
I do not think so, if you trade plan and always follow the market, if the market drops you will be able to timely processing and exchange USDT or USD to be able to preserve capital and profit. I believe that at this time you should only short-term investment and always have to keep track of the bitcoin price to be able to handle any situation that may occur in time.
sr. member
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The market is going down that will also have trading, it is important you know where you are right and what to do. Selling at the right time will help you cut losses and make a profit. Nothing is bad, just know how to use and have a strategic head with investment.
newbie
Activity: 154
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When prices in the market decrease, those who make the investment only guess that they may face losses. But the investors do not sell at that time. Rather, they hold and sell if they increase. There are very few people who accept losses and sell that time even if the price decreases.
legendary
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Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody
Don't see why everyone is angry about the current market, this gives us another chance to buy in cheap and make massive gains, but everyone here is in panic mode.

People are nervous because the bear market is overextending. When it falls down sharply you are prepared for it. Like in January and February, everybody saw the need for a correction and we all anticipated at least 50% discount on BTC. But when it hit the bottom of 6k twice it really looked like the market was slowing down and getting ready to stabilize. SInce then we've been trading in a very small range of 2000 USD and want to see the trend finally change. We've been in a confirmed bull market from May to December 2017 (7 months), and are now 8 months in the bear market. About time.
legendary
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When we do talk on general sense for most people/traders/investors when we do see a decline of prices on the entire market then loses would depend on where or what spot we do able to get in.If it do able to break that point lower that price then its considered as loss but there are still who are even reaching nearly on break even side neither they do hold up their coins for long term but still on the profit side although profits is gradually decreasing as the market goes down.On the other side some people panic but some wise ones do see this as an opportunity.
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