Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 20. (Read 108173 times)

^^^ God tells us in the Bible that He did creation in a very non-random way. No random. So, even if you don't believe in the Bible, random is just a guess.

It wasn't universe C&E, either. Why not? Because God, being outside the universe... who knows what it was? If He had used universe C&E, he would not have been outside the universe. So, we only know that God is the cause. Scientists from the early 1900s called God The Great First Cause. The universe was the effect, and C&E continues on to this day. That we can tell, God only used cause to create.

What does this have to do with evolution? There aren't any billions of years that we know of. No time to make evolution theory work until we prove the billions of years.

Why no billions of years since science seems to clearly have found evidence of such? Because we don't know when the observations that we make, observations of our universe, are the results of math and physics that are different than what we have today. We can only guess, basing our guesses on writings from ancient nations... or pottery, sometimes. And those things aren't nearly far enough back to fit evolution theory evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

God could have made the universe any way he wanted and that cause cannot be tracked back ever because it's random, therefore everything else is also random since the first cause of everything is caused by a random cause (god) You are so stupid that you don't even realize your own argument self defeats.

^^^ What? You haven't figure out that science barely has anything that they know. You can tell by all the volumes of paperwork they spew out about theories.

C&E are definitely science things. But they are common-man things as well. No wonder you are having such a difficult time. You won't accept stuff that is right in front of you.

God used something other than the C&E of this universe to create the universe. Whatever that stuff was, it was a cause. But of itself it isn't universe C&E.

Btw, the reaction was the effect of the action cause.

We are back to the same old shit that was already debunked several times. C&E doesn't exist in Science. Only newton's 3rd law exists which states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. ''Cause and effect'' is something you made up to try and justify your beliefs, then again, you also claim God doesn't need C&E and at the same time you think there is no randomness but god himself has to be random, otherwise he would be affected by Cause and Effect.

^^^ Come on, now! You know that C&E shows us that there isn't any random.

Evolution is a hoax.

Well, considering you are a random person who claims to know for a fact that god exists, it's quite hypocritical to say what you said, don't you think?

^^^ While I don't agree with you, at least you are showing us one important thing. Because a bunch of people who are supposed to know that there aren't any 100% facts, still state that evolution is a fact...

Evolution is a hoax.

Question is fairly easy, you keep talking about facts, can you tell me one fact? As far as I know nothing is ever proven 100% and science in ''fact'' doesn't like using the word fact because of that reason.

^^^ Well of course I can. How long are you going to wait?

Can you tell me one thing that is true with an 100% certainty? I'll wait here.

Well, it seem s that this debate can't evolve...
The problem is that science can't fight against religion, as believer won't accept anything that will deny their believes.
So, it's a waste of time.

^^^ Now that you have agreed with yourself like 100 times that a scientific theory doesn't mean that it's not true, let's state clearly what a scientific theory DOES mean. A scientific theory means that we don't know if it is true or not. And to clarify, the theory is real. The thing we don't know about is the object of the theory.

If some scientists happen to hold that BB theory is the best scientific theory, so what? All they are agreeing to is that they don't know. There are probably millions of potential science theories that they could think up. The fact that they have placed BB into theory status, only says that they don't know if its true or not.

Now, if you happen to want to go and worship scientists' thinking rather than finding out what is true and real, have at it. All I did regarding BBT is show you how it disproves itself. If there were scientists looking at my explanation, they could continue to hold BBT as a scientific theory, or they could go on to more productive things. Up to them.

And regarding you, since you don't refute the things that I showed regarding how BBT proves itself wrong, but rather go into some kind of a spiel about science theories, shows that you would rather maintain the stupidity status of not knowing, rather than finding out what is true and real.

Actually nope, as explained like 100 times, a scientific theory doesn't mean it's not true and also as explained 100 times you can never know anything with an 100% certainty so it's meaningless to talk about ''facts''
The FACT is that scientists still hold the big bang as the best theory and you keep saying they are proving more and more the theory to be wrong yet that's simply not true and you never provided any evidence of such because you are a fucking liar.

^^^ As usual, you are mistaken in many ways. Science doesn't do (hold) anything. Only scientists do that. This means that scientists might hold that BB is true, but the fact that they know it is a theory is a simple way to see that they do not know that it is true. If they tell you it is true, it is from lack of knowledge. When you add the part that I have shown you as to how BBT proves BB doesn't exist, then we see that BB is a hoax right along with evolution... the non-BB stealing away some of the credibility of ETE.

Since I showed you the Epic of Gilgamesh already, why don't you do us the favor of finding some more written evidence of the Flood. Oh, that's right. I almost forgot that you don't know how to do research... or accept it as fact when it is prove true.

''Except that the way that BB proves itself to be wrong, is the same way that it proves the start of the creation story in Genesis to be right'' Science still holds the big bang as the general theory of how the universe began to exist so I don't know where you heard we even started to prove the big bang is wrong.

''There are cave drawings that we scientifically term as prehistory, around the world, that depict the Flood'' You mean there are some drawings somewhere that depict some flood? That's it? A global flood and all you have is a painting somewhere? People knew how to write it in the bible but didn't know how to write about it anywhere else? LUL.

For example, certainly you have heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh, yes? There are cave drawings that we scientifically term as prehistory, around the world, that depict the Flood.


However, thank you for such easy questions to answer. And actually, your questions help any reader who is really interested to focus his research a little better. So, thanks for the help, because my points are often too brief for the avid student.

''this active nation that is miraculously doing what no other nation has ever done'' What is this even supposed to mean?
''When you check out the importance of tradition in this nation, scientifically, you will find that scientifically, their stuff has to be accurate. '' What exactly can you test scientifically? Are we testing how important tradition is? What are we testing, give specifics, your talk is useless blabber.
''the facts that science is indirectly proving the creation story by nullifying its own Big Bang'' Even if the Big Bang was proven to be inaccurate that won't prove creation, that's a fallacy, thinking that disproving one option automatically makes the other the truth.
''shown to be accurate in the Bible'' Like what? Talking snakes? People coming back from the dead? What has ever been proven to be accurate in the Bible?
''Nations all around the world have records of a worldwide flood'' Exactly the opposite, no other race has records of that flood, history books never talk about a flood.

Actually, if you research it, you will find that there are aspects of the human genome that show that humans are so radically different than any monkeys, that there is no way that humans could have ever come from monkeys... or any other animals... even if evolution were completely true.

I actually believe that it enters the belief of the person, some believe that we come from evolution through the monkey, others that we come by the big ban, and in my case I am a fervent believer in the creationist theory of God the Heavenly Father.

Although the monkeys are very similar and have characteristics similar to ours, I think they are only classified as wild animals that often is hard to domesticate, because they will remain wild.

There are many scientists who defend evolutionary theory through the monkey, and have pictures of possible evolutions, which, I think I do not think we come from a monkey, the human being has a much more privileged brain and is also right , which is far above what a monkey can develop.

In this case you can. How? By checking out this active nation that is miraculously doing what no other nation has ever done... nationally coming back from the dead after 2,000 years of silence. When you check out the importance of tradition in this nation, scientifically, you will find that scientifically, their stuff has to be accurate.

And this is only the start. There are things like fulfillment of prophesies, the facts that science is indirectly proving the creation story by nullifying its own Big Bang, no proof for evolution, and all kinds of other things that have been shown to be accurate in the Bible. Often its the hidden discoveries - hidden because when they are discovered, science wants to hide them - that are showing the bible to be true more and more. Nations all around the world have records of a worldwide flood. Standard science wants to ignore them.