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April 24, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
^^^ While I don't agree with you, at least you are showing us one important thing. Because a bunch of people who are supposed to know that there aren't any 100% facts, still state that evolution is a fact...

Evolution is a hoax.

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Well, considering you are a random person who claims to know for a fact that god exists, it's quite hypocritical to say what you said, don't you think?
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April 24, 2019, 10:49:12 AM
^^^ While I don't agree with you, at least you are showing us one important thing. Because a bunch of people who are supposed to know that there aren't any 100% facts, still state that evolution is a fact...

Evolution is a hoax.

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April 24, 2019, 02:04:07 AM
^^^ Well of course I can. How long are you going to wait?

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Question is fairly easy, you keep talking about facts, can you tell me one fact? As far as I know nothing is ever proven 100% and science in ''fact'' doesn't like using the word fact because of that reason.
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April 23, 2019, 11:51:10 PM
^^^ Well of course I can. How long are you going to wait?

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April 23, 2019, 06:18:57 PM
^^^ Now that you have agreed with yourself like 100 times that a scientific theory doesn't mean that it's not true, let's state clearly what a scientific theory DOES mean. A scientific theory means that we don't know if it is true or not. And to clarify, the theory is real. The thing we don't know about is the object of the theory.

If some scientists happen to hold that BB theory is the best scientific theory, so what? All they are agreeing to is that they don't know. There are probably millions of potential science theories that they could think up. The fact that they have placed BB into theory status, only says that they don't know if its true or not.

Now, if you happen to want to go and worship scientists' thinking rather than finding out what is true and real, have at it. All I did regarding BBT is show you how it disproves itself. If there were scientists looking at my explanation, they could continue to hold BBT as a scientific theory, or they could go on to more productive things. Up to them.

And regarding you, since you don't refute the things that I showed regarding how BBT proves itself wrong, but rather go into some kind of a spiel about science theories, shows that you would rather maintain the stupidity status of not knowing, rather than finding out what is true and real.

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Can you tell me one thing that is true with an 100% certainty? I'll wait here.
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April 23, 2019, 04:35:17 PM
Well, it seem s that this debate can't evolve...Smiley
The problem is that science can't fight against religion, as believer won't accept anything that will deny their believes.
So, it's a waste of time.
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April 23, 2019, 03:18:36 PM
^^^ Now that you have agreed with yourself like 100 times that a scientific theory doesn't mean that it's not true, let's state clearly what a scientific theory DOES mean. A scientific theory means that we don't know if it is true or not. And to clarify, the theory is real. The thing we don't know about is the object of the theory.

If some scientists happen to hold that BB theory is the best scientific theory, so what? All they are agreeing to is that they don't know. There are probably millions of potential science theories that they could think up. The fact that they have placed BB into theory status, only says that they don't know if its true or not.

Now, if you happen to want to go and worship scientists' thinking rather than finding out what is true and real, have at it. All I did regarding BBT is show you how it disproves itself. If there were scientists looking at my explanation, they could continue to hold BBT as a scientific theory, or they could go on to more productive things. Up to them.

And regarding you, since you don't refute the things that I showed regarding how BBT proves itself wrong, but rather go into some kind of a spiel about science theories, shows that you would rather maintain the stupidity status of not knowing, rather than finding out what is true and real.

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April 23, 2019, 12:33:04 PM
^^^ As usual, you are mistaken in many ways. Science doesn't do (hold) anything. Only scientists do that. This means that scientists might hold that BB is true, but the fact that they know it is a theory is a simple way to see that they do not know that it is true. If they tell you it is true, it is from lack of knowledge. When you add the part that I have shown you as to how BBT proves BB doesn't exist, then we see that BB is a hoax right along with evolution... the non-BB stealing away some of the credibility of ETE.

Since I showed you the Epic of Gilgamesh already, why don't you do us the favor of finding some more written evidence of the Flood. Oh, that's right. I almost forgot that you don't know how to do research... or accept it as fact when it is prove true.

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Actually nope, as explained like 100 times, a scientific theory doesn't mean it's not true and also as explained 100 times you can never know anything with an 100% certainty so it's meaningless to talk about ''facts''
The FACT is that scientists still hold the big bang as the best theory and you keep saying they are proving more and more the theory to be wrong yet that's simply not true and you never provided any evidence of such because you are a fucking liar.
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April 22, 2019, 05:00:46 PM
^^^ As usual, you are mistaken in many ways. Science doesn't do (hold) anything. Only scientists do that. This means that scientists might hold that BB is true, but the fact that they know it is a theory is a simple way to see that they do not know that it is true. If they tell you it is true, it is from lack of knowledge. When you add the part that I have shown you as to how BBT proves BB doesn't exist, then we see that BB is a hoax right along with evolution... the non-BB stealing away some of the credibility of ETE.

Since I showed you the Epic of Gilgamesh already, why don't you do us the favor of finding some more written evidence of the Flood. Oh, that's right. I almost forgot that you don't know how to do research... or accept it as fact when it is prove true.

Cool
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April 22, 2019, 03:54:47 PM
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April 18, 2019, 10:18:31 AM
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April 18, 2019, 07:39:20 AM

''We have the eye witness reports'' How do you know they are real? We cannot go back in time to verify them, can we?


But you can prove them out by using the scientific method on them, and then by:
1. Placing the correct interpretation on the results shown by the scientific method;
2. And proving them by the pleasure or pain that follows.

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How exactly? You can't measure or experiment with eye witnesses, where do you even start, are you just gonna ask someone if he knows someone that knows someone, etc until god? How can you test the bible for authenticity? You can't.

In this case you can. How? By checking out this active nation that is miraculously doing what no other nation has ever done... nationally coming back from the dead after 2,000 years of silence. When you check out the importance of tradition in this nation, scientifically, you will find that scientifically, their stuff has to be accurate.

And this is only the start. There are things like fulfillment of prophesies, the facts that science is indirectly proving the creation story by nullifying its own Big Bang, no proof for evolution, and all kinds of other things that have been shown to be accurate in the Bible. Often its the hidden discoveries - hidden because when they are discovered, science wants to hide them - that are showing the bible to be true more and more. Nations all around the world have records of a worldwide flood. Standard science wants to ignore them.

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''this active nation that is miraculously doing what no other nation has ever done'' What is this even supposed to mean?
''When you check out the importance of tradition in this nation, scientifically, you will find that scientifically, their stuff has to be accurate. '' What exactly can you test scientifically? Are we testing how important tradition is? What are we testing, give specifics, your talk is useless blabber.
''the facts that science is indirectly proving the creation story by nullifying its own Big Bang'' Even if the Big Bang was proven to be inaccurate that won't prove creation, that's a fallacy, thinking that disproving one option automatically makes the other the truth.
''shown to be accurate in the Bible'' Like what? Talking snakes? People coming back from the dead? What has ever been proven to be accurate in the Bible?
''Nations all around the world have records of a worldwide flood'' Exactly the opposite, no other race has records of that flood, history books never talk about a flood.
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April 17, 2019, 08:11:15 AM
I actually believe that it enters the belief of the person, some believe that we come from evolution through the monkey, others that we come by the big ban, and in my case I am a fervent believer in the creationist theory of God the Heavenly Father.

Although the monkeys are very similar and have characteristics similar to ours, I think they are only classified as wild animals that often is hard to domesticate, because they will remain wild.

There are many scientists who defend evolutionary theory through the monkey, and have pictures of possible evolutions, which, I think I do not think we come from a monkey, the human being has a much more privileged brain and is also right , which is far above what a monkey can develop.

Actually, if you research it, you will find that there are aspects of the human genome that show that humans are so radically different than any monkeys, that there is no way that humans could have ever come from monkeys... or any other animals... even if evolution were completely true.

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April 17, 2019, 07:31:07 AM
I actually believe that it enters the belief of the person, some believe that we come from evolution through the monkey, others that we come by the big ban, and in my case I am a fervent believer in the creationist theory of God the Heavenly Father.

Although the monkeys are very similar and have characteristics similar to ours, I think they are only classified as wild animals that often is hard to domesticate, because they will remain wild.

There are many scientists who defend evolutionary theory through the monkey, and have pictures of possible evolutions, which, I think I do not think we come from a monkey, the human being has a much more privileged brain and is also right , which is far above what a monkey can develop.
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April 17, 2019, 12:58:12 AM

''We have the eye witness reports'' How do you know they are real? We cannot go back in time to verify them, can we?


But you can prove them out by using the scientific method on them, and then by:
1. Placing the correct interpretation on the results shown by the scientific method;
2. And proving them by the pleasure or pain that follows.

Cool

How exactly? You can't measure or experiment with eye witnesses, where do you even start, are you just gonna ask someone if he knows someone that knows someone, etc until god? How can you test the bible for authenticity? You can't.

In this case you can. How? By checking out this active nation that is miraculously doing what no other nation has ever done... nationally coming back from the dead after 2,000 years of silence. When you check out the importance of tradition in this nation, scientifically, you will find that scientifically, their stuff has to be accurate.

And this is only the start. There are things like fulfillment of prophesies, the facts that science is indirectly proving the creation story by nullifying its own Big Bang, no proof for evolution, and all kinds of other things that have been shown to be accurate in the Bible. Often its the hidden discoveries - hidden because when they are discovered, science wants to hide them - that are showing the bible to be true more and more. Nations all around the world have records of a worldwide flood. Standard science wants to ignore them.

Cool
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April 16, 2019, 04:25:32 PM

''We have the eye witness reports'' How do you know they are real? We cannot go back in time to verify them, can we?


But you can prove them out by using the scientific method on them, and then by:
1. Placing the correct interpretation on the results shown by the scientific method;
2. And proving them by the pleasure or pain that follows.

Cool

How exactly? You can't measure or experiment with eye witnesses, where do you even start, are you just gonna ask someone if he knows someone that knows someone, etc until god? How can you test the bible for authenticity? You can't.
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April 15, 2019, 05:14:24 PM

''We have the eye witness reports'' How do you know they are real? We cannot go back in time to verify them, can we?


But you can prove them out by using the scientific method on them, and then by:
1. Placing the correct interpretation on the results shown by the scientific method;
2. And proving them by the pleasure or pain that follows.

Cool
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April 15, 2019, 03:42:22 PM

Well, thanks for proving me wrong. I thought that I was wrong. But since you have proven me wrong, I am right.

Two major reason why Evolution has not been proven true are:

1. Nobody can track the DNA of plants or animals over the many thousands of years it would take to see if even one of them changed into another, and probably, nobody will ever be able to;

2. We can date pottery back to between 4500 and 5000 years. But back beyond that we don't know for a fact that the methods we use are the methods that will work on things back then. Math, itself, might have been different back beyond 5000 years, as might have been the physics of the universe. Everything we use as proof might have acted differently back then. We simply don't know.

When we don't know, and know that we don't know, yet say that we do know, that's when the hoax comes into being.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

You forgot to add:

3. Nobody can time travel therefore anything that happened in the past cannot be proven ever (unless it's the claim that god existed and performed miracles in which case, yes, it can somehow be proven)


2. How would math be different 20.000 years ago, you are just talking nonsense, if that's your argument, then everything could have been different at any given time, then we might as well just give up.

Well, well, well. You are starting to get the picture a little. Since we don't know how math and physics might be different a little, or the same for that matter, we obviously don't know that the earth or universe are billions of years old, or that they are even 20,000 years old.

Since we know that we don't know these things, yet we proclaim that we know these things that we know we don't know...

Evolution is a hoax... and you agreed.

Cool

So we don't know those things but somehow we know a supernatural amazing being existed and performed miracles and not only that but he created the entire universe. Good one.


We have the eye witness reports of God being faithful to His Word. So, since God said it, it's true.

On the other hand, we have scientists NOT being faithful to their word. They prove that they don't know, but then they say that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''We have the eye witness reports'' How do you know they are real? We cannot go back in time to verify them, can we?
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April 15, 2019, 03:14:41 PM

Well, thanks for proving me wrong. I thought that I was wrong. But since you have proven me wrong, I am right.

Two major reason why Evolution has not been proven true are:

1. Nobody can track the DNA of plants or animals over the many thousands of years it would take to see if even one of them changed into another, and probably, nobody will ever be able to;

2. We can date pottery back to between 4500 and 5000 years. But back beyond that we don't know for a fact that the methods we use are the methods that will work on things back then. Math, itself, might have been different back beyond 5000 years, as might have been the physics of the universe. Everything we use as proof might have acted differently back then. We simply don't know.

When we don't know, and know that we don't know, yet say that we do know, that's when the hoax comes into being.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

You forgot to add:

3. Nobody can time travel therefore anything that happened in the past cannot be proven ever (unless it's the claim that god existed and performed miracles in which case, yes, it can somehow be proven)


2. How would math be different 20.000 years ago, you are just talking nonsense, if that's your argument, then everything could have been different at any given time, then we might as well just give up.

Well, well, well. You are starting to get the picture a little. Since we don't know how math and physics might be different a little, or the same for that matter, we obviously don't know that the earth or universe are billions of years old, or that they are even 20,000 years old.

Since we know that we don't know these things, yet we proclaim that we know these things that we know we don't know...

Evolution is a hoax... and you agreed.

Cool

So we don't know those things but somehow we know a supernatural amazing being existed and performed miracles and not only that but he created the entire universe. Good one.


We have the eye witness reports of God being faithful to His Word. So, since God said it, it's true.

On the other hand, we have scientists NOT being faithful to their word. They prove that they don't know, but then they say that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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April 15, 2019, 12:56:26 PM

Well, thanks for proving me wrong. I thought that I was wrong. But since you have proven me wrong, I am right.

Two major reason why Evolution has not been proven true are:

1. Nobody can track the DNA of plants or animals over the many thousands of years it would take to see if even one of them changed into another, and probably, nobody will ever be able to;

2. We can date pottery back to between 4500 and 5000 years. But back beyond that we don't know for a fact that the methods we use are the methods that will work on things back then. Math, itself, might have been different back beyond 5000 years, as might have been the physics of the universe. Everything we use as proof might have acted differently back then. We simply don't know.

When we don't know, and know that we don't know, yet say that we do know, that's when the hoax comes into being.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

You forgot to add:

3. Nobody can time travel therefore anything that happened in the past cannot be proven ever (unless it's the claim that god existed and performed miracles in which case, yes, it can somehow be proven)


2. How would math be different 20.000 years ago, you are just talking nonsense, if that's your argument, then everything could have been different at any given time, then we might as well just give up.

Well, well, well. You are starting to get the picture a little. Since we don't know how math and physics might be different a little, or the same for that matter, we obviously don't know that the earth or universe are billions of years old, or that they are even 20,000 years old.

Since we know that we don't know these things, yet we proclaim that we know these things that we know we don't know...

Evolution is a hoax... and you agreed.

Cool

So we don't know those things but somehow we know a supernatural amazing being existed and performed miracles and not only that but he created the entire universe. Good one.
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