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Quote from: Astargath on April 03, 2019, 03:34:00 PM

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Just for you, I'll repeat it again. What factually exists is adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like. Evolution theory evolution has not been proven.

The funny thing is that loads of evolution thinkers who talk about evolution come right out and admit that there isn't any real evidence for evolution. Of course, they hide these kinds of statements... like at the end of their books.

This is the thing that makes evolution into the hoax that it is... not that a bunch of evolutionists are trying to find some proof of it.

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No, how do you know those factually exist and you are not wrong? You think adaption is a fact, explain why.

Quote from: https://www.thoughtco.com/adaptation-definition-2291692

An adaptation is a physical or behavioral characteristic that has developed to allow an organism to better survive in its environment. Adaptations are the result of evolution and may occur when a gene mutates, or changes by accident. That mutation causes the organism to better survive and reproduce, and it passes on that trait to its offspring. It can take many generations to develop an adaptation.

Note that the definition of evolution is not given in the above quote. This means that the standard definition is to be used. But the standard definition is wrong, because we have no proof of even one animal or plant ever changing into another.

Note, also, that we don't really know of any beneficial mutations. All the mutations that are clearly not beneficial are obvious. But those that look beneficial may have long-term detrimental effects. This means that we don't even know if any mutations are beneficial.

This leaves the development part of the the adaptation description. Development is something that is essentially already programmed in the DNA. Adaptation simply makes certain programming more prevalent, so that the creature involved can adapt to new surroundings or climate, etc.

Seems to me that you don't know about some of the more simple facts of life.

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Right but how do you know adaption is a fact?

If the sum total of adaptation lies in evolution, it isn't a fact. But since it doesn't, go and investigate it so that you can tell me if it is fact or not.

Since evolution is not a fact, but it is portrayed as fact...

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 03, 2019, 03:21:59 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 03, 2019, 11:50:50 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 07:31:40 PM

Just for you, I'll repeat it again. What factually exists is adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like. Evolution theory evolution has not been proven.

The funny thing is that loads of evolution thinkers who talk about evolution come right out and admit that there isn't any real evidence for evolution. Of course, they hide these kinds of statements... like at the end of their books.

This is the thing that makes evolution into the hoax that it is... not that a bunch of evolutionists are trying to find some proof of it.

Cool

No, how do you know those factually exist and you are not wrong? You think adaption is a fact, explain why.

Quote from: https://www.thoughtco.com/adaptation-definition-2291692

An adaptation is a physical or behavioral characteristic that has developed to allow an organism to better survive in its environment. Adaptations are the result of evolution and may occur when a gene mutates, or changes by accident. That mutation causes the organism to better survive and reproduce, and it passes on that trait to its offspring. It can take many generations to develop an adaptation.

Note that the definition of evolution is not given in the above quote. This means that the standard definition is to be used. But the standard definition is wrong, because we have no proof of even one animal or plant ever changing into another.

Note, also, that we don't really know of any beneficial mutations. All the mutations that are clearly not beneficial are obvious. But those that look beneficial may have long-term detrimental effects. This means that we don't even know if any mutations are beneficial.

This leaves the development part of the the adaptation description. Development is something that is essentially already programmed in the DNA. Adaptation simply makes certain programming more prevalent, so that the creature involved can adapt to new surroundings or climate, etc.

Seems to me that you don't know about some of the more simple facts of life.

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Right but how do you know adaption is a fact?

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Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact,
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Evolution and gravity are scientific theorys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) you are confusing it with the word hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis)

To say that evolution and gravity are theories is to say that they are not known to exist factually.

Gravity exists. People use it all the time everyday.

Evolution doesn't exist that we know of.

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Dude read before posting the definition of theory, learn first what is a theory, a law and a hypothesis.

Thank you for your admonition. Do you ever follow your own admonition, yourself?

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Quote from: Astargath on April 03, 2019, 11:50:50 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 07:31:40 PM

Just for you, I'll repeat it again. What factually exists is adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like. Evolution theory evolution has not been proven.

The funny thing is that loads of evolution thinkers who talk about evolution come right out and admit that there isn't any real evidence for evolution. Of course, they hide these kinds of statements... like at the end of their books.

This is the thing that makes evolution into the hoax that it is... not that a bunch of evolutionists are trying to find some proof of it.

Cool

No, how do you know those factually exist and you are not wrong? You think adaption is a fact, explain why.

Quote from: https://www.thoughtco.com/adaptation-definition-2291692

An adaptation is a physical or behavioral characteristic that has developed to allow an organism to better survive in its environment. Adaptations are the result of evolution and may occur when a gene mutates, or changes by accident. That mutation causes the organism to better survive and reproduce, and it passes on that trait to its offspring. It can take many generations to develop an adaptation.

Note that the definition of evolution is not given in the above quote. This means that the standard definition is to be used. But the standard definition is wrong, because we have no proof of even one animal or plant ever changing into another.

Note, also, that we don't really know of any beneficial mutations. All the mutations that are clearly not beneficial are obvious. But those that look beneficial may have long-term detrimental effects. This means that we don't even know if any mutations are beneficial.

This leaves the development part of the the adaptation description. Development is something that is essentially already programmed in the DNA. Adaptation simply makes certain programming more prevalent, so that the creature involved can adapt to new surroundings or climate, etc.

Seems to me that you don't know about some of the more simple facts of life.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 07:31:40 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 02, 2019, 04:44:38 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 03:18:44 PM

Quote from: azkielt on March 28, 2019, 05:37:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:26:44 PM

Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact,
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Evolution and gravity are scientific theorys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) you are confusing it with the word hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis)

To say that evolution and gravity are theories is to say that they are not known to exist factually.

Gravity exists. People use it all the time everyday.

Evolution doesn't exist that we know of.

Cool

What does exist factually, badecker?

Just for you, I'll repeat it again. What factually exists is adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like. Evolution theory evolution has not been proven.

The funny thing is that loads of evolution thinkers who talk about evolution come right out and admit that there isn't any real evidence for evolution. Of course, they hide these kinds of statements... like at the end of their books.

This is the thing that makes evolution into the hoax that it is... not that a bunch of evolutionists are trying to find some proof of it.

Cool

No, how do you know those factually exist and you are not wrong? You think adaption is a fact, explain why.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 03:18:44 PM

Quote from: azkielt on March 28, 2019, 05:37:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:26:44 PM

Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact,
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Evolution and gravity are scientific theorys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) you are confusing it with the word hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis)

To say that evolution and gravity are theories is to say that they are not known to exist factually.

Gravity exists. People use it all the time everyday.

Evolution doesn't exist that we know of.

Cool

Dude read before posting the definition of theory, learn first what is a theory, a law and a hypothesis.

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Evolution process has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Your education system has failed you. The evidence of this is in this thread.

The evolution fictional story has absolutely been promoted. The fact that there is no proof for evolution existing in reality, is that there is no proof after decades of searching for it.

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Quote from: Astargath on April 02, 2019, 04:44:38 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 03:18:44 PM

Quote from: azkielt on March 28, 2019, 05:37:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:26:44 PM

Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact,
Cool

Evolution and gravity are scientific theorys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) you are confusing it with the word hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis)

To say that evolution and gravity are theories is to say that they are not known to exist factually.

Gravity exists. People use it all the time everyday.

Evolution doesn't exist that we know of.

Cool

What does exist factually, badecker?

Just for you, I'll repeat it again. What factually exists is adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like. Evolution theory evolution has not been proven.

The funny thing is that loads of evolution thinkers who talk about evolution come right out and admit that there isn't any real evidence for evolution. Of course, they hide these kinds of statements... like at the end of their books.

This is the thing that makes evolution into the hoax that it is... not that a bunch of evolutionists are trying to find some proof of it.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 03:18:44 PM

Quote from: azkielt on March 28, 2019, 05:37:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:26:44 PM

Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact,
Cool

Evolution and gravity are scientific theorys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) you are confusing it with the word hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis)

To say that evolution and gravity are theories is to say that they are not known to exist factually.

Gravity exists. People use it all the time everyday.

Evolution doesn't exist that we know of.

Cool

What does exist factually, badecker?

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Survival of the fittest shows that evolution is false. How? Since there are multitudes of bad mutations that happen for each good mutation, the so-called fittest is the bad mutations. This means that the bad mutations are destroying the good mutations by survival of the fittest. Bad mutation by their abundance are the fittest.

We are proving this by the few numbers of what appear to be good mutations that we find anywhere in nature. If they happened to be good mutations... how can we tell for sure?... except if we examine many generations of the creatures involved, to see if the changes are good.

We can barely find any beneficial mutations in nature. The best we can do is take life out of nature, and place it in test tubes and petri dishes, and give it "comfortable" living conditions, and watch how it grows unnaturally. This isn't evolution. This is manipulation.

We haven't found any evolution in nature. All we have is stories about what to look for. But we are not finding what the stories suggest should be there.

All the dinosaur bones and digs are producing part of a story. But the story isn't evolution.

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Quote from: azkielt on March 28, 2019, 05:37:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:26:44 PM

Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact,
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Evolution and gravity are scientific theorys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) you are confusing it with the word hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis)

To say that evolution and gravity are theories is to say that they are not known to exist factually.

Gravity exists. People use it all the time everyday.

Evolution doesn't exist that we know of.

Cool

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Quote from: azkielt on March 28, 2019, 05:33:26 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:08:47 PM

^^^ The evolution religion/philosophy
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So the main argument that completely destroy almost all religions in the planet if the people is able to understand it and know what it represent is a religion??

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:08:47 PM

^^^ The funny thing about it is, the evolutionists have billions of years backward. The fact is, the longer the time, the less chance for evolution to have happened. Why? Because those random happenings that destroy evolution become way more abundant with more time, just like the growing evolution would.

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Dude, read what I said about how evolution work or search yourself about how evolution works. And again the random changes are preserved via reproduction if the animal survive and that is because the change is better for the adaptation to the environment and the whole process happens in millions of years, something similar are the atrocities that we humans do to dogs to create the "races", preserving only what we want via reproduction.

Except for the one, little part. Evolution is only a story. Everything that is proven to exist in evolution, fits something else better... like adaptation or simple change, and especially like-begets-like. There is no proof for the main part of evolution, which is, that all life came from a single cell that developed from the inanimate.

So, why would anyone want to research evolution? Evolution is a wonderful science fiction story, but it is absolutely disgusting as the religion it has turned into.

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I also not believe that evolution, but I believe that we humans were made by high intelligent being... Cheesy

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^^^ LOL! It doesn't take much of a scientist at all, to figure out that the odds for the complexity involved in evolution to have happened, would make the 13.5 billion-year-old universe, millions of times too short for evolution to even get going.

And if the universe happens to be only the less than 10,000 years old that the Bible says, evolutionists are the laughingstock.

Either way, evolution is simply a passing philosophy... or for people like af_newbie who are serious about it - a religion.

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''And if the universe happens to be only the less than 10,000 years '' Science already proved it's not using dozens of different methods. - Science never proved such. And they even state it by calling their own calculations "theory." All science has done is to formulate ideas that interpret observations in ways that they want, not in ways that are necessarily factual.

''It doesn't take much of a scientist at all, to figure out that the odds for the complexity involved in evolution to have happened'' That was already debunked and I linked it several times but your alzheimers is affecting you again, http://answers-in-reason.com/religion/mathematical-impossibility-evolution-debunked/ - Again, your debunking has to do with limited, circular thinking. And it is based on old data.

Again, badecker, you can't win, science always wins.

Since your points destroy themselves, there isn't anything to win.

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One of them it's called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating and it's not a theory, even if it was a scientific theory, I know you have no problem believing in gravity, do you? That's a scientific theory too btw.

''Again, your debunking has to do with limited, circular thinking. And it is based on old data.'' Nope, ''the mathematical impossibility'' of evolution is based on old and wrong data as shown in that link and many more.

Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact, used by everyone every day of his life (except for folks on the ISS, of course). Gravity theory is the theory, not gravity fact.

As I said in my previous post. New findings regarding the complexity of life show us that random chance can't bring about evolution in anything near the scientifically accepted age of the universe. But that is only if evolution happenstance worked the way that evolutionist say that it does.

The fact of the matter is that evolutionists have it backward. How? Because they avoid the increase in the things that would destroy evolution, but focus on the things that increase evolution. In other words, the longer you roll the dice, the more chance you have to roll a particular sequence. But the greater the chances that you won't roll that particular sequence at the same time.

Evolution is a complete fantasy hoax.

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''New findings regarding the complexity of life show us that random chance can't bring about evolution'' Where are these new findings, can you link it?

As the post above said, gravity is a scientific theory but I'm sure you know that, you simply ignore it on purpose because it fits your argument, as usual.

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Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:26:44 PM

Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact,
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Evolution and gravity are scientific theorys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) you are confusing it with the word hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis)

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Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:08:47 PM

^^^ The evolution religion/philosophy
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So the main argument that completely destroy almost all religions in the planet if the people is able to understand it and know what it represent is a religion??

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 05:08:47 PM

^^^ The funny thing about it is, the evolutionists have billions of years backward. The fact is, the longer the time, the less chance for evolution to have happened. Why? Because those random happenings that destroy evolution become way more abundant with more time, just like the growing evolution would.

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Dude, read what I said about how evolution work or search yourself about how evolution works. And again the random changes are preserved via reproduction if the animal survive and that is because the change is better for the adaptation to the environment and the whole process happens in millions of years, something similar are the atrocities that we humans do to dogs to create the "races", preserving only what we want via reproduction.

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Quote from: Astargath on March 28, 2019, 05:11:43 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 06:03:04 AM

Quote from: Astargath on March 28, 2019, 04:50:52 AM

Quote from: BADecker on March 27, 2019, 09:47:47 PM

^^^ LOL! It doesn't take much of a scientist at all, to figure out that the odds for the complexity involved in evolution to have happened, would make the 13.5 billion-year-old universe, millions of times too short for evolution to even get going.

And if the universe happens to be only the less than 10,000 years old that the Bible says, evolutionists are the laughingstock.

Either way, evolution is simply a passing philosophy... or for people like af_newbie who are serious about it - a religion.

Cool

''And if the universe happens to be only the less than 10,000 years '' Science already proved it's not using dozens of different methods. - Science never proved such. And they even state it by calling their own calculations "theory." All science has done is to formulate ideas that interpret observations in ways that they want, not in ways that are necessarily factual.

''It doesn't take much of a scientist at all, to figure out that the odds for the complexity involved in evolution to have happened'' That was already debunked and I linked it several times but your alzheimers is affecting you again, http://answers-in-reason.com/religion/mathematical-impossibility-evolution-debunked/ - Again, your debunking has to do with limited, circular thinking. And it is based on old data.

Again, badecker, you can't win, science always wins.

Since your points destroy themselves, there isn't anything to win.

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One of them it's called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating and it's not a theory, even if it was a scientific theory, I know you have no problem believing in gravity, do you? That's a scientific theory too btw.

''Again, your debunking has to do with limited, circular thinking. And it is based on old data.'' Nope, ''the mathematical impossibility'' of evolution is based on old and wrong data as shown in that link and many more.

Now you are starting to sound like notbatman in his flat earth thread. Gravity is not a theory. It is a fact, used by everyone every day of his life (except for folks on the ISS, of course). Gravity theory is the theory, not gravity fact.

As I said in my previous post. New findings regarding the complexity of life show us that random chance can't bring about evolution in anything near the scientifically accepted age of the universe. But that is only if evolution happenstance worked the way that evolutionist say that it does.

The fact of the matter is that evolutionists have it backward. How? Because they avoid the increase in the things that would destroy evolution, but focus on the things that increase evolution. In other words, the longer you roll the dice, the more chance you have to roll a particular sequence. But the greater the chances that you won't roll that particular sequence at the same time.

Evolution is a complete fantasy hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2019, 06:03:04 AM

Quote from: Astargath on March 28, 2019, 04:50:52 AM

Quote from: BADecker on March 27, 2019, 09:47:47 PM

^^^ LOL! It doesn't take much of a scientist at all, to figure out that the odds for the complexity involved in evolution to have happened, would make the 13.5 billion-year-old universe, millions of times too short for evolution to even get going.

And if the universe happens to be only the less than 10,000 years old that the Bible says, evolutionists are the laughingstock.

Either way, evolution is simply a passing philosophy... or for people like af_newbie who are serious about it - a religion.

Cool

''And if the universe happens to be only the less than 10,000 years '' Science already proved it's not using dozens of different methods. - Science never proved such. And they even state it by calling their own calculations "theory." All science has done is to formulate ideas that interpret observations in ways that they want, not in ways that are necessarily factual.

''It doesn't take much of a scientist at all, to figure out that the odds for the complexity involved in evolution to have happened'' That was already debunked and I linked it several times but your alzheimers is affecting you again, http://answers-in-reason.com/religion/mathematical-impossibility-evolution-debunked/ - Again, your debunking has to do with limited, circular thinking. And it is based on old data.

Again, badecker, you can't win, science always wins.

Since your points destroy themselves, there isn't anything to win.

Cool

One of them it's called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating and it's not a theory, even if it was a scientific theory, I know you have no problem believing in gravity, do you? That's a scientific theory too btw.

''Again, your debunking has to do with limited, circular thinking. And it is based on old data.'' Nope, ''the mathematical impossibility'' of evolution is based on old and wrong data as shown in that link and many more.

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^^^ The evolution religion/philosophy is just a story that has been shown to not exist. Why doesn't it exist in reality? The complexity of life shows that life could not come about by accidental mutations in any way we can possibly think up. The odds are simply infinitely against evolution.

The trick to billions of years regarding evolution is, if the evolution story were real, it would take billions of billions of years for evolution to come about randomly. The funny thing about it is, the evolutionists have billions of years backward. The fact is, the longer the time, the less chance for evolution to have happened. Why? Because those random happenings that destroy evolution become way more abundant with more time, just like the growing evolution would.

Evolution is a big fat hoax. But for evolution believers, it is a philosophy or a religion.

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Evolution is no a thing, is not a property of livings things, is a process. And is very simple to understand, things evolve by natural selection, very random small mutations in a species, some goods, some bad, the good ones that are more suitable to adapt to the environment are the ones who are transmitted because the organisms have a small more chance to survive, the bad ones just are discarded because they bring issues to organism and have small chances to survive and transmit the bad mutation in the reproduction. All this plus millions of years and that is evolution, off course if you think that Earth have only like 6000 years and the whole universe is just made for us off course you can't believe in evolution. Personally I would like the christian version of the world that is shown in Supernatural (the TV show), where evolution occurred but guide by God, and he is a bisexual old man who like cats and doesn't care about the world, that sounds more credible than old school religions.

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