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July 15, 2018, 01:33:28 AM
When I studied at junior high school and learned about evolution theory as Charles Darwin said that the human is from apes. I disagree althought my teacher said that.
I do not want to be equated with apes. And I also rethinking: Why there are still monkeys that are still alive?
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July 14, 2018, 09:43:31 PM

You think there is such thing as a missing link, I proved you wrong, all the ''evidence'' you have against evolution usually consists of fallacies or plain wrong arguments as shown above.

As usual. Now you try to twist things to make it look like I am the one who thinks that there is a missing link.

There isn't any evolution missing link. In zillions of fossils, we haven't been able to find one that we can prove. Lots of talk. Lots of ideas. But no proof.

So, missing-link ideas, along with the rest of the evolution ideas, are simply science fiction.

Or, show us the proof for even one evolution form. Your talk isn't proof. Point us at the proof that is accepted as proof by science, not just places where scientists and quasi-scientists say they have proof without showing it. Or explain it in enough detail that we can see that it is proof.

Can't do it, right?

Evolution is a hoax. And thanks for keeping this thread alive by your lack of proof, while you are willing to talk with no proof behind what you say. More and more people are starting to wake up about the evolution hoax, just because of you. Good job!

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July 13, 2018, 12:01:47 PM

''Yet you fail to recognize that evolution from Creature A to Creature/Missing-Link B has to have thousands or millions of missing links between them to make such a transformation viable. Some of these would have to exist within the fossil record, but we can't find them. Yet, evolution theory doesn't work without them.''

I don't know how can someone keep saying the same shit after I gave him 20 different links to read about it. Some people are just stupid. There is no such thing as a missing link, they are called transitional fossils. A few examples of what you think doesn't exist here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil#Prominent_examples



There you go with the same old crap again. Those fossils aren't transitional fossils because not one of them has the immediate fossil that it transitioned from, or transitioned to, for that matter.

If it is a transitional fossil, where is even one fossil - I mean, literally one... not one group... one - that was the immediately previous form that one of your transitional fossils transitioned from, or one of the direct forms that your transitional fossil transitioned to. Show us one, and prove that it was the ONE that your transitional fossil transitioned from or to.

You can't do it. There aren't any. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Evolution is a hoax.

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''not one of them has the immediate fossil that it transitioned from'' So you want all the millions of fossils one after each other? Do you understand how difficult it is for a fossil to exist?

https://www.quora.com/Why-havent-we-found-the-missing-links-in-human-evolution

Anyways, we can still see how evolution works, shown in the first answer there. Unless of course you think it's a coincidence that the dating numbers and how the fossils look match correctly.

Who, besides you, says anything about an evolution fossil line-up? Just show one fossil that is the direct mutation of another fossil, that's all. Who cares where it came from?

Pick, as an example, some whale fossil that was the direct and immediate, previous ancestor to some other whale fossil. According to evolution theory, you couldn't tell the difference between the two animals from the fossils. Evolution theory says that the mutation would have to be too tiny to tell the difference by looking at the fossil. Even in Punctuated Evolution the difference would be too small to see in a fossil.

Now, if you had two, living whales, you might check their DNA to see the difference... the beneficial mutation. So, why hasn't anyone come up with something that they can prove is a beneficial mutation in a living creature, and not a simple adaptation?

The whole idea of using the fossil record for evolution studies is stupid, since there is no way to tell if a fossil is for-a-fact an evolutionary mutation of some other fossil, since their differences would be so small, and there is no way to check their DNA to make sure.

I don't know who started the idea of checking the fossil record. But if it was an evolutionist who did it, he was ignorant or just plain stupid. If it was a creationist, he was shrewd. Why? The fossil record can't be used on its own to prove or disprove evolution. The whole idea of using the fossil record is a distraction.

So, we are back to where we started. Prove it was evolution and not adaptation or something else. But remember in your proving... remember that it all acts by cause and effect, which means that even evolution - if it exists, somehow - is programmed in by whatever cause the universe in the Beginning. C&E alone show that...

Evolution is a hoax.

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July 13, 2018, 11:36:49 AM

''Yet you fail to recognize that evolution from Creature A to Creature/Missing-Link B has to have thousands or millions of missing links between them to make such a transformation viable. Some of these would have to exist within the fossil record, but we can't find them. Yet, evolution theory doesn't work without them.''

I don't know how can someone keep saying the same shit after I gave him 20 different links to read about it. Some people are just stupid. There is no such thing as a missing link, they are called transitional fossils. A few examples of what you think doesn't exist here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil#Prominent_examples



There you go with the same old crap again. Those fossils aren't transitional fossils because not one of them has the immediate fossil that it transitioned from, or transitioned to, for that matter.

If it is a transitional fossil, where is even one fossil - I mean, literally one... not one group... one - that was the immediately previous form that one of your transitional fossils transitioned from, or one of the direct forms that your transitional fossil transitioned to. Show us one, and prove that it was the ONE that your transitional fossil transitioned from or to.

You can't do it. There aren't any. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Evolution is a hoax.

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''not one of them has the immediate fossil that it transitioned from'' So you want all the millions of fossils one after each other? Do you understand how difficult it is for a fossil to exist?

https://www.quora.com/Why-havent-we-found-the-missing-links-in-human-evolution

Anyways, we can still see how evolution works, shown in the first answer there. Unless of course you think it's a coincidence that the dating numbers and how the fossils look match correctly.
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July 13, 2018, 01:52:36 AM

''Yet you fail to recognize that evolution from Creature A to Creature/Missing-Link B has to have thousands or millions of missing links between them to make such a transformation viable. Some of these would have to exist within the fossil record, but we can't find them. Yet, evolution theory doesn't work without them.''

I don't know how can someone keep saying the same shit after I gave him 20 different links to read about it. Some people are just stupid. There is no such thing as a missing link, they are called transitional fossils. A few examples of what you think doesn't exist here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil#Prominent_examples



There you go with the same old crap again. Those fossils aren't transitional fossils because not one of them has the immediate fossil that it transitioned from, or transitioned to, for that matter.

If it is a transitional fossil, where is even one fossil - I mean, literally one... not one group... one - that was the immediately previous form that one of your transitional fossils transitioned from, or one of the direct forms that your transitional fossil transitioned to. Show us one, and prove that it was the ONE that your transitional fossil transitioned from or to.

You can't do it. There aren't any. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Well, come on you evolutionists out there. What is wrong with the info in that Wikipedia link, above? Check in the same page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil#Fossil_record . What's it saying in this second link? It's saying that the fossil record is so incomplete that it doesn't have a record of evolution in it. Yet, the animals shown in earlier portions of the page say that there are missing links. Since the fossil record is incomplete, how does anybody know that any of the fossils are missing links?

It's all make believe. There aren't any missing links because evolution doesn't exist.

Evolution is a hoax.

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July 12, 2018, 08:01:04 PM

''Yet you fail to recognize that evolution from Creature A to Creature/Missing-Link B has to have thousands or millions of missing links between them to make such a transformation viable. Some of these would have to exist within the fossil record, but we can't find them. Yet, evolution theory doesn't work without them.''

I don't know how can someone keep saying the same shit after I gave him 20 different links to read about it. Some people are just stupid. There is no such thing as a missing link, they are called transitional fossils. A few examples of what you think doesn't exist here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil#Prominent_examples



There you go with the same old crap again. Those fossils aren't transitional fossils because not one of them has the immediate fossil that it transitioned from, or transitioned to, for that matter.

If it is a transitional fossil, where is even one fossil - I mean, literally one... not one group... one - that was the immediately previous form that one of your transitional fossils transitioned from, or one of the direct forms that your transitional fossil transitioned to. Show us one, and prove that it was the ONE that your transitional fossil transitioned from or to.

You can't do it. There aren't any. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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July 12, 2018, 07:17:39 PM

Nice talk but there is no such thing as ''missing links'' It's a classic myth just like ''why are there still monkeys'' You constantly show your lack of education in this matter, as previously shown.

Actually, it is you and other evolutionists who show your knowledge on the subject of evolution. You do it by talking around anything that doesn't match your evolution ideals. This proves that evolution is a religion, and that you knwo it, even though you won't readily admit such to yourselves.

Evolution, being a religion for you, when you try to sincerely present it as fact, makes evolution to be a hoax, a hoax against humanity who doesn't suspect the entire lack of fact regarding everything that is evolution.

You state things like Creature A evolved into Creature C, and we have found the missing link, Missing Link B. So, Creature A evolved to Creature B which evolved to Creature C.

Yet you fail to recognize that evolution from Creature A to Creature/Missing-Link B has to have thousands or millions of missing links between them to make such a transformation viable. Some of these would have to exist within the fossil record, but we can't find them. Yet, evolution theory doesn't work without them.

What if all those missing links are there in the fossil record somewhere? Maybe they are, right? But where? Since they are not visible anywhere, we don't know for sure that they exist. Since we don't know that they exist, we don't know that evolution theory can even be fact. The fact that science is touting something as fact that they don't know is fact, makes evolution scientists to be incredibly uncredible, and...

Evolution is a hoax.

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P.S.   This is fun Cheesy   I have almost never found such a detailed, scientific topic, that is so easy to rebut, as evolution.

''Yet you fail to recognize that evolution from Creature A to Creature/Missing-Link B has to have thousands or millions of missing links between them to make such a transformation viable. Some of these would have to exist within the fossil record, but we can't find them. Yet, evolution theory doesn't work without them.''

I don't know how can someone keep saying the same shit after I gave him 20 different links to read about it. Some people are just stupid. There is no such thing as a missing link, they are called transitional fossils. A few examples of what you think doesn't exist here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil#Prominent_examples

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July 12, 2018, 01:19:40 PM

Nice talk but there is no such thing as ''missing links'' It's a classic myth just like ''why are there still monkeys'' You constantly show your lack of education in this matter, as previously shown.

Actually, it is you and other evolutionists who show your knowledge on the subject of evolution. You do it by talking around anything that doesn't match your evolution ideals. This proves that evolution is a religion, and that you knwo it, even though you won't readily admit such to yourselves.

Evolution, being a religion for you, when you try to sincerely present it as fact, makes evolution to be a hoax, a hoax against humanity who doesn't suspect the entire lack of fact regarding everything that is evolution.

You state things like Creature A evolved into Creature C, and we have found the missing link, Missing Link B. So, Creature A evolved to Creature B which evolved to Creature C.

Yet you fail to recognize that evolution from Creature A to Creature/Missing-Link B has to have thousands or millions of missing links between them to make such a transformation viable. Some of these would have to exist within the fossil record, but we can't find them. Yet, evolution theory doesn't work without them.

What if all those missing links are there in the fossil record somewhere? Maybe they are, right? But where? Since they are not visible anywhere, we don't know for sure that they exist. Since we don't know that they exist, we don't know that evolution theory can even be fact. The fact that science is touting something as fact that they don't know is fact, makes evolution scientists to be incredibly uncredible, and...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

P.S.   This is fun Cheesy   I have almost never found such a detailed, scientific topic, that is so easy to rebut, as evolution.
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July 12, 2018, 12:34:17 PM

But how would you know? All you can do is post links. Since you can't explain them in a concise form yourself, how would you even know that they say anything truthful?

At least the other religions have doctrine that people can understand and explain. Or is it just you who can't explain things?

Evolution is a hoax, even as a religion.

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Nice talk but there is no such thing as ''missing links'' It's a classic myth just like ''why are there still monkeys'' You constantly show your lack of education in this matter, as previously shown.
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July 12, 2018, 12:21:44 PM

But how would you know? All you can do is post links. Since you can't explain them in a concise form yourself, how would you even know that they say anything truthful?

At least the other religions have doctrine that people can understand and explain. Or is it just you who can't explain things?

Evolution is a hoax, even as a religion.

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July 11, 2018, 11:29:36 AM
Yes. Start using your head.

1. Evolution theory evolution is impossible. Google "impossible evolution." The rebuttals to impossible evolution rebut themselves by being filled with assumptions, circular references, and ambiguities.

2. In a previous post I showed an article where mitochondrial DNA for life could not have existed beyond 200,000 years ago, scientifically speaking. The point is that science agrees that it is self-contradictory regarding when the first life appeared. Time to throw the baby out with the bath water.

3. All the supposed missing links in the fossil record, cannot be proven to have been missing links. Why not? Because the jump between any of them would have to be so great that the number of mutations from the before, to the ML, is unequivocally impossible in any form of evolution theory imaginable.

4. All supposed evolution forms that have been found, fit adaptation far easier than they fit evolution theory evolution.

5. In a previous post I showed that some of the smartest evolutionists agree that evolution barely has a leg to stand on, Stephen Gould being one of them.

6. No scientifically provable example of evolution has ever been found.

In other words, evolution as reality is impossible. If thinking evolutionists said that evolution was simply an idea, things would be different. But because they tout evolution as reality when nobody knows that it is...

Evolution is a hoax.

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1) Of course you find what you want if you google your predefined opinion. That’s actually circular logic. You should google evolution and then arrive at your opinion. You like the bible, right? Try google it and words like assumptions, circular references, and ambiguities?

2) So? Google again and find 200.000 articles that will show mtDNA have existed beyond 200.000 years. If you talk about mtDNA-Eve well 200.000 years sounds about right.

3) Of course it cannot be proven, its missing! The rest is just your opinion.

4) Yes it does! Because adaptation is evolution! Any change is evolution!

5) Hmm… now how smart are they really if they don’t believe in their own title? Are they evolutionist if they don’t believe in evolution? Very strange! I’m one of the smartest Creationists Smiley

6) Open your eyes. It’s all around you, trillions and trillions of examples.

In other words, evolution as reality is possible!

Evolution is reality

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July 11, 2018, 11:24:06 AM
I know, I know. You want me to do the research for you. Then you won't accept it anyway.

First, check the Bible to see that folks lived over 900 years in some cases, before the Great Flood, and 400 or more, in some cases, in the first 500 years after. Second, consider that the earth was much more fertile in those days, because devolution didn't have as much time to set in as later years. Next, get out your Excel spreadsheet, and set a woman's average lifespan to 400 years (could have been 600 to 800).

At 20-y-o a woman starts having kids. She has one every year for 400 years, both because sex is fun, and because everything is healthier (less devolution). Now, considering that half the kids were male, and half were female, the approximately 1,600 years before the flood would produce billions on the earth. Do the math, or at least look it up in a search engine.

https://answersingenesis.org/noahs-ark/pre-flood-population/
http://www.ldolphin.org/pickett.html
https://biblescienceguy.wordpress.com/2014/06/18/4-population-growth-how-many-died-in-noahs-flood/ = trillions
https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/32623/what-was-the-population-of-the-world-at-the-time-of-the-flood

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Narr not really. Capable enough to find my own answers.

It’s all assumptions! If and if and if, all the lovely things you complain about in evolution!

Not dealing with all the issues of incest and inbreeding, after all you only have one male and female to begin with, and never mind turning women into nonstop breading machines – for 100s of years at a time, you also surpassed growth percent of a factor 100 vs. any other time in history.

And how about the food for this massive population explosion? All other animals and plants have also just been created, they need time too, to super populate like the humans.

And while this is just in the beginning – few humans and few animals, humans start to build super structures of massive sizes all over the world.  Impressive! Never mind I disregard the Neolithic structures predating 4000 B.C, cause I don’t know how they were build, since no humans where around?
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July 11, 2018, 10:39:50 AM

You forget the major thing about the Bible. And that is, the Bible isn't a scientific text in the terms of modern science. Rather, it is a religious text that uses the terms of an ancient race of people who had different ways of thinking than even their modern counterpart.

For simple example. The way that the Ancient Israel people calculated days and months and weeks was different than the way that we calculate them. It is possible that some Middle East folks still calculate them as did Ancient Israel, even though their governments have adopted the form used in Europe and America. See https://biblethingsinbibleways.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/what-is-the-biblical-day-week-month-year-and-does-it-really-matter/ to see what the "calendar" of Bible times was really like.

The point is, the Bible isn't wrong. Rather, modern science is trying to use it as a measurement in the wrong way.

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EDIT: The real point, again, is that the Bible is an accurate record, and can be used accurately by those who have studied how to use it. Even if evolution wasn't backward in the way it is being applied - the truth is that the longer the time, the greater the chance for deterioration and destruction of beneficial mutations (assuming that there are some) - the Bible is a witness to the things that really happened.

Evolution is a hoax.

''the Bible is an accurate record'' It is not accurate if it's wrong on almost everything, the history taught in the bible is nowhere to be found. Flood? Noah's Ark? Talking snakes? None of those things existed, accurate because you say so? ROFL

https://www.wired.com/2008/12/evolutionexampl/

Slap yourself and wake up.

Since the Bible isn't wrong, it is an accurate record. The scientific methodology that shows what the Bible is, and how it couldn't exist in the form in which it exists, shows the miraculousness of the Bible, and that God made it. So, God and the bible are true, and science is guessing at multitudes of things that are outside of its scope to understand.

The flaws and lies in your link are enormous deceptions. There are as many holes in the points in the link, as there are missing missing-links in the fossil record = possibly millions, but more like billions or trillions.

Evolution is a pure and unadulterated hoax.

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Since the Bible isn't wrong, it is an accurate record'' Literally all history shows that it isn't. No noah's ark anywhere, no indications of a massive flood, no talking snakes or other creatures like demons, no possessions. You keep saying it's accurate, it's accurate on what exactly?
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