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legendary
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July 23, 2018, 12:19:12 PM
Signature in the Cell and Intelligent Design


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/244136-2018-07-23-signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design.htm
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0723081033-origin-of-life.jpg



A question that never ceases to fascinate is that of how life originated, and how and why it has progressed as it seems to have. The official story and de rigueur explanation is that that life came about through spontaneous generation from seawater. Believing this is the mark of an Advanced Person, whether one has the slightest knowledge of the matter. In academia researchers have been fired and careers ruined for questioning it. If you doubt that scientists can be ideological herd animals, as petty, intolerant, vindictive, and backstabbing as professors, read Heretic, by the PhD biotechnologist and biochemist Matti Leisola, who fell on the wrong side of the herd. Ths establishment's continuing effort to stamp out heresy looks increasingly like a protracted desperatoon.

The other, more intuitive view of life is that of Intelligent Design. When one sees an immensely complicated system all of whose parts work together with effect and apparent purpose, such as an automobile or a cell, it is natural to think that someone or something designed it. There is much evidence for this, certainly enough to intrigue those of open mind and intelligence. Those of a philosophic bent may note that Freud, Marx, and Darwin are equally relics of Nineteenth Century determinism, and that Darwin wrote when almost nothing was known about much of biology. Note also that the sciences are tightly constrained and limited by their premises, unable to think outside of their chosen box.  Others, wiser, wonder whether there are not more things in heaven and earth.

The theory of ID is seen by the official story as a form of biblical Creationism of the sort holding that the world was created in 4004 BC. This is either wantonly stupid or deliberately dishonest.  There is of course no necessary connection between ID and Buddhism, Islam, or the Cargo Cult. There are scientists who are not proponents of ID but simply see that much of official Darwinism does not make sense or comport with the evidence. Some IDers are Christians, which does not affect the validity, or lack of it, orf what they say. To judge by my mail, many people have serious doubts about the official explanation without being zealots of anything in particular.

(For what it is worth, I am myself a complete agnostic. Faith and atheism both seem to me categorical beliefs in something one doesn't know. ID certainly provides no support for the existence of a loving Sunday School god, given that in almost all places and all times most people have lived in misery and died in agony.)

To me, though, things look designed. By what, I don't know.

Two difficulties affect the presentation of ID to the public.  First, most of us have been subjected to thousands of hours of vapid "science" programs and mass-market textbooks. These tell us  that doubters must be snake-handling forest Christians with three teeth. The second is that following the argument requires more technical grasp than most have. Trying to explain the question to a network-news audience is hopeless and makes those attempting it seem foolish.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/fred-reed/signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design/.


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Your a hoax.
legendary
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July 23, 2018, 11:23:35 AM
Signature in the Cell and Intelligent Design


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/244136-2018-07-23-signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design.htm
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0723081033-origin-of-life.jpg



A question that never ceases to fascinate is that of how life originated, and how and why it has progressed as it seems to have. The official story and de rigueur explanation is that that life came about through spontaneous generation from seawater. Believing this is the mark of an Advanced Person, whether one has the slightest knowledge of the matter. In academia researchers have been fired and careers ruined for questioning it. If you doubt that scientists can be ideological herd animals, as petty, intolerant, vindictive, and backstabbing as professors, read Heretic, by the PhD biotechnologist and biochemist Matti Leisola, who fell on the wrong side of the herd. Ths establishment's continuing effort to stamp out heresy looks increasingly like a protracted desperatoon.

The other, more intuitive view of life is that of Intelligent Design. When one sees an immensely complicated system all of whose parts work together with effect and apparent purpose, such as an automobile or a cell, it is natural to think that someone or something designed it. There is much evidence for this, certainly enough to intrigue those of open mind and intelligence. Those of a philosophic bent may note that Freud, Marx, and Darwin are equally relics of Nineteenth Century determinism, and that Darwin wrote when almost nothing was known about much of biology. Note also that the sciences are tightly constrained and limited by their premises, unable to think outside of their chosen box.  Others, wiser, wonder whether there are not more things in heaven and earth.

The theory of ID is seen by the official story as a form of biblical Creationism of the sort holding that the world was created in 4004 BC. This is either wantonly stupid or deliberately dishonest.  There is of course no necessary connection between ID and Buddhism, Islam, or the Cargo Cult. There are scientists who are not proponents of ID but simply see that much of official Darwinism does not make sense or comport with the evidence. Some IDers are Christians, which does not affect the validity, or lack of it, orf what they say. To judge by my mail, many people have serious doubts about the official explanation without being zealots of anything in particular.

(For what it is worth, I am myself a complete agnostic. Faith and atheism both seem to me categorical beliefs in something one doesn't know. ID certainly provides no support for the existence of a loving Sunday School god, given that in almost all places and all times most people have lived in misery and died in agony.)

To me, though, things look designed. By what, I don't know.

Two difficulties affect the presentation of ID to the public.  First, most of us have been subjected to thousands of hours of vapid "science" programs and mass-market textbooks. These tell us  that doubters must be snake-handling forest Christians with three teeth. The second is that following the argument requires more technical grasp than most have. Trying to explain the question to a network-news audience is hopeless and makes those attempting it seem foolish.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/fred-reed/signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design/.


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legendary
Activity: 3990
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July 16, 2018, 07:49:09 PM

You are so mean. You are really making this difficult so that I have to work at it (LOL), right?

Let's use your link http://www.transitionalfossils.com/ from above, for example. Skip down a page, to the "Fish - tetrapods" section. Notice the wording "thought to be" and "If that animal was" and "is probably representative" and others. In other words, they don't know that evolution is a fact, because everything said about evolution everywhere contains wording like this.

Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist(ed). There is no proof for evolution there. It's simply proof that there are different fish that have similar characteristics.

Further, if you found a Ventastega, for example, what would the direct and immediate ancestor to the Ventastega look like? Especially in a fossil? It would look exactly like a Ventastega. However, if there were some visible differences between the Ventastega in question, and it's direct ancestor Ventastega, nobody can tell from any of the fossils if the difference was a simple difference programmed by DNA, or if it was truly evolution. Fossils are not detailed enough for that,  and fossils are the best we have.

The point is that all these evolution, fossil web pages are built on guesses. We have no proof for even one evolution happening. Continuing to promote evolution as fact is to be deceptive and a liar. We have no fact in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Damn bro, amazing argument, you got me there, if an article has words like ''thought to be'' or any ''ifs'' it means it's a total hoax. - Son of a gun! I didn't even mean to get you. But since I did, thanks for making it easier on all of us - but mostly yourself - for finally understanding that evolution is a hoax.

''Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist'' They are dated, some are older than others, all in perfect order which shows evolution happened, unless you believe it's a coincidence that they are ordered like that or that god made it that way to make it look like evolution.

How many skulls did you have on that table?

You should really go out into the 7.5 billion people world, and find two people who are evolution-related. Pardon the offense to the people who lived in those skulls you show, way back, but those skulls don't show any proof of evolution by their existence. The dating is way unsure, and the fact that they are as many years apart as evolutionists claim that they are, shows that there is no way to prove evolution at all by them.


Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

So you think somehow a lot of human-like skulls existed in the past but all of them are extinct now or what do you think all those skulls are? Take a minute and think.

I suppose past skulls are calcium, just like present skulls. How do you extinct a skull?

This is the evolution thread. If you can't explain what you mean by skulls made of calcium, or skulls being extinct, why don't you get back on topic - evolution.

What I mean is, let's imagine that 5 million years ago a man and a woman just appeared on the earth. Who cares where they came from. They were simply here. They had kids in like-begets-like fashion as we see everyday, and they lived and died just like they do today. Some of them lived to be 100-y-o. Others lived to only 30-y-o.

Now let's say that some of today's evolutionist dug up a handful of skulls here and there, and dated them with hundreds of thousands of years in between them. It would take an extreme amount of imagination to think that they might somehow be related, except in the fact that they were men and women. And that is without throwing evolution into the mix.

Evolutionists are mind-bogglingly imaginative to even think that they could make evolution relationships between a bunch of calcium objects, and then could think that it was proof of evolution.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

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July 16, 2018, 07:22:17 PM

You are so mean. You are really making this difficult so that I have to work at it (LOL), right?

Let's use your link http://www.transitionalfossils.com/ from above, for example. Skip down a page, to the "Fish - tetrapods" section. Notice the wording "thought to be" and "If that animal was" and "is probably representative" and others. In other words, they don't know that evolution is a fact, because everything said about evolution everywhere contains wording like this.

Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist(ed). There is no proof for evolution there. It's simply proof that there are different fish that have similar characteristics.

Further, if you found a Ventastega, for example, what would the direct and immediate ancestor to the Ventastega look like? Especially in a fossil? It would look exactly like a Ventastega. However, if there were some visible differences between the Ventastega in question, and it's direct ancestor Ventastega, nobody can tell from any of the fossils if the difference was a simple difference programmed by DNA, or if it was truly evolution. Fossils are not detailed enough for that,  and fossils are the best we have.

The point is that all these evolution, fossil web pages are built on guesses. We have no proof for even one evolution happening. Continuing to promote evolution as fact is to be deceptive and a liar. We have no fact in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Damn bro, amazing argument, you got me there, if an article has words like ''thought to be'' or any ''ifs'' it means it's a total hoax. - Son of a gun! I didn't even mean to get you. But since I did, thanks for making it easier on all of us - but mostly yourself - for finally understanding that evolution is a hoax.

''Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist'' They are dated, some are older than others, all in perfect order which shows evolution happened, unless you believe it's a coincidence that they are ordered like that or that god made it that way to make it look like evolution.

How many skulls did you have on that table?

You should really go out into the 7.5 billion people world, and find two people who are evolution-related. Pardon the offense to the people who lived in those skulls you show, way back, but those skulls don't show any proof of evolution by their existence. The dating is way unsure, and the fact that they are as many years apart as evolutionists claim that they are, shows that there is no way to prove evolution at all by them.


Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

So you think somehow a lot of human-like skulls existed in the past but all of them are extinct now or what do you think all those skulls are? Take a minute and think.
legendary
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July 16, 2018, 07:04:35 PM

You are so mean. You are really making this difficult so that I have to work at it (LOL), right?

Let's use your link http://www.transitionalfossils.com/ from above, for example. Skip down a page, to the "Fish - tetrapods" section. Notice the wording "thought to be" and "If that animal was" and "is probably representative" and others. In other words, they don't know that evolution is a fact, because everything said about evolution everywhere contains wording like this.

Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist(ed). There is no proof for evolution there. It's simply proof that there are different fish that have similar characteristics.

Further, if you found a Ventastega, for example, what would the direct and immediate ancestor to the Ventastega look like? Especially in a fossil? It would look exactly like a Ventastega. However, if there were some visible differences between the Ventastega in question, and it's direct ancestor Ventastega, nobody can tell from any of the fossils if the difference was a simple difference programmed by DNA, or if it was truly evolution. Fossils are not detailed enough for that,  and fossils are the best we have.

The point is that all these evolution, fossil web pages are built on guesses. We have no proof for even one evolution happening. Continuing to promote evolution as fact is to be deceptive and a liar. We have no fact in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Damn bro, amazing argument, you got me there, if an article has words like ''thought to be'' or any ''ifs'' it means it's a total hoax. - Son of a gun! I didn't even mean to get you. But since I did, thanks for making it easier on all of us - but mostly yourself - for finally understanding that evolution is a hoax.

''Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist'' They are dated, some are older than others, all in perfect order which shows evolution happened, unless you believe it's a coincidence that they are ordered like that or that god made it that way to make it look like evolution.

How many skulls did you have on that table?

You should really go out into the 7.5 billion people world, and find two people who are evolution-related. Pardon the offense to the people who lived in those skulls you show, way back, but those skulls don't show any proof of evolution by their existence. The dating is way unsure, and the fact that they are as many years apart as evolutionists claim that they are, shows that there is no way to prove evolution at all by them.


Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
hero member
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July 16, 2018, 02:02:01 PM

Show as many examples as you want. But what are you showing examples of? Certainly it isn't missing links that are the immediate evolution ancestor or descendant of any particular critter. In fact, they are not even close according to evolution theory. Why not? Because all the examples you show have too many differences for mutation to have occurred to make them immediately related. Evolution theory doesn't allow for that many mutations from one critter to the next to make it an immediate ancestor or descendant.

The point is, since we don't even have one critter that is even closely related by evidence, how do we know that they are related at all? Evolution is all guesswork. Your links are guesswork. They are religion if you believe them.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''Certainly it isn't missing links'' Obviously not since there is no such thing as a missing link. https://www.livescience.com/32530-what-is-the-missing-link.html

https://i.stack.imgur.com/zecLF.jpg

That's 14 Hominid species, ranging from about 4 M.Y. ago to a modern human skull ("N").

https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/5138/fossils-of-intermediate-stages

And as you can see, evolution is in fact real.

You are so mean. You are really making this difficult so that I have to work at it (LOL), right?

Let's use your link http://www.transitionalfossils.com/ from above, for example. Skip down a page, to the "Fish - tetrapods" section. Notice the wording "thought to be" and "If that animal was" and "is probably representative" and others. In other words, they don't know that evolution is a fact, because everything said about evolution everywhere contains wording like this.

Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist(ed). There is no proof for evolution there. It's simply proof that there are different fish that have similar characteristics.

Further, if you found a Ventastega, for example, what would the direct and immediate ancestor to the Ventastega look like? Especially in a fossil? It would look exactly like a Ventastega. However, if there were some visible differences between the Ventastega in question, and it's direct ancestor Ventastega, nobody can tell from any of the fossils if the difference was a simple difference programmed by DNA, or if it was truly evolution. Fossils are not detailed enough for that,  and fossils are the best we have.

The point is that all these evolution, fossil web pages are built on guesses. We have no proof for even one evolution happening. Continuing to promote evolution as fact is to be deceptive and a liar. We have no fact in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Damn bro, amazing argument, you got me there, if an article has words like ''thought to be'' or any ''ifs'' it means it's a total hoax.

''Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist'' They are dated, some are older than others, all in perfect order which shows evolution happened, unless you believe it's a coincidence that they are ordered like that or that god made it that way to make it look like evolution.
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July 16, 2018, 02:45:15 AM
Let's for a moment entertain that you are right, evolution is a hoax. If you apply the same analytical skills towards the bible, don't you arrived at the very same thing? Lots of if, if, if, stories and no proof? Why do the bible not require proof? Don't say faith, cause then you might as well take evolution on faith!
Exactly. but science has facts which proves the existence of something. while the bible is all stories. but it is a if religion is excluded- it doesnt need to be proved.
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Walter Russell's Cosmogony is RIGHT!
July 16, 2018, 02:19:15 AM
Evolution is a BUSINESS model.... based on FRAUD and deception... not a science
By it's very definition...ABIOGENISIS abrogates the UNIVERSAL SINGULAR LAW OF SCIENCE
CAUSE & EFFECT

The ILLUSION.... of BIOLOGICAL LIFE..... is AN EFFECT....
The CAUSE of WHICH..
SCIENCE has yet to discover (because ACADEMIA has it's head soooo far up the ass of MONEY/POWER and it mouth on their COCK)

Mankind HAS had a true enlightened prophet decipher the mystery of CREATION
Mankind HAS been given the keys to TRANSMUTATION of THE ELEMENTS.
Mankind HAS been given a complete ACCURATE treatise on the COSMOGONY of the UNIVERSE

As written by the same man that CORRECTLY PRE-DICTED the TRANS-URANIUM ELEMENTS (and is thus the true father of the Atomic age)
MOREOVER ALSO gave us the MORE ACCURATE SPIRAL TABLE OF ELEMENTS

That Man's name is...

WALTER BOWMAN RUSSELL
His treatise was first published in 1927 in 'The Universal One'
His SCIENCE TREATISE WAS TESTED AND CONFIRMED AS ACCURATE AND IN ACCORD WITH NATURE...
BY HIS DEAR FRIEND...
NIKOLA TESLA

You now have the responsibility to investigate and DISPROVE it OR STFU
Or stay stupid and ignorant and a VICTIM of THE PROPAGANDA OF THE POWER ELITE
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July 16, 2018, 01:51:25 AM
Let's for a moment entertain that you are right, evolution is a hoax. If you apply the same analytical skills towards the bible, don't you arrived at the very same thing? Lots of if, if, if, stories and no proof? Why do the bible not require proof? Don't say faith, cause then you might as well take evolution on faith!
legendary
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July 15, 2018, 06:09:57 PM

Show as many examples as you want. But what are you showing examples of? Certainly it isn't missing links that are the immediate evolution ancestor or descendant of any particular critter. In fact, they are not even close according to evolution theory. Why not? Because all the examples you show have too many differences for mutation to have occurred to make them immediately related. Evolution theory doesn't allow for that many mutations from one critter to the next to make it an immediate ancestor or descendant.

The point is, since we don't even have one critter that is even closely related by evidence, how do we know that they are related at all? Evolution is all guesswork. Your links are guesswork. They are religion if you believe them.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''Certainly it isn't missing links'' Obviously not since there is no such thing as a missing link. https://www.livescience.com/32530-what-is-the-missing-link.html

https://i.stack.imgur.com/zecLF.jpg

That's 14 Hominid species, ranging from about 4 M.Y. ago to a modern human skull ("N").

https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/5138/fossils-of-intermediate-stages

And as you can see, evolution is in fact real.

You are so mean. You are really making this difficult so that I have to work at it (LOL), right?

Let's use your link http://www.transitionalfossils.com/ from above, for example. Skip down a page, to the "Fish - tetrapods" section. Notice the wording "thought to be" and "If that animal was" and "is probably representative" and others. In other words, they don't know that evolution is a fact, because everything said about evolution everywhere contains wording like this.

Further, in that same section, there is nothing to show that these were not all individual creatures that were created the way they exist(ed). There is no proof for evolution there. It's simply proof that there are different fish that have similar characteristics.

Further, if you found a Ventastega, for example, what would the direct and immediate ancestor to the Ventastega look like? Especially in a fossil? It would look exactly like a Ventastega. However, if there were some visible differences between the Ventastega in question, and it's direct ancestor Ventastega, nobody can tell from any of the fossils if the difference was a simple difference programmed by DNA, or if it was truly evolution. Fossils are not detailed enough for that,  and fossils are the best we have.

The point is that all these evolution, fossil web pages are built on guesses. We have no proof for even one evolution happening. Continuing to promote evolution as fact is to be deceptive and a liar. We have no fact in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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July 15, 2018, 09:49:47 AM

You think there is such thing as a missing link, I proved you wrong, all the ''evidence'' you have against evolution usually consists of fallacies or plain wrong arguments as shown above.

As usual. Now you try to twist things to make it look like I am the one who thinks that there is a missing link.

There isn't any evolution missing link. In zillions of fossils, we haven't been able to find one that we can prove. Lots of talk. Lots of ideas. But no proof.

So, missing-link ideas, along with the rest of the evolution ideas, are simply science fiction.

Or, show us the proof for even one evolution form. Your talk isn't proof. Point us at the proof that is accepted as proof by science, not just places where scientists and quasi-scientists say they have proof without showing it. Or explain it in enough detail that we can see that it is proof.

Can't do it, right?

Evolution is a hoax. And thanks for keeping this thread alive by your lack of proof, while you are willing to talk with no proof behind what you say. More and more people are starting to wake up about the evolution hoax, just because of you. Good job!

Cool

You keep asking for examples after I provided them:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaenamontanari/2015/11/17/four-famous-transitional-fossils-that-support-evolution/#7ef7d9832d8d
https://study.com/academy/lesson/transitional-fossils-definition-examples.html
http://www.transitionalfossils.com/
https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/_0_0/lines_03



Show as many examples as you want. But what are you showing examples of? Certainly it isn't missing links that are the immediate evolution ancestor or descendant of any particular critter. In fact, they are not even close according to evolution theory. Why not? Because all the examples you show have too many differences for mutation to have occurred to make them immediately related. Evolution theory doesn't allow for that many mutations from one critter to the next to make it an immediate ancestor or descendant.

The point is, since we don't even have one critter that is even closely related by evidence, how do we know that they are related at all? Evolution is all guesswork. Your links are guesswork. They are religion if you believe them.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''Certainly it isn't missing links'' Obviously not since there is no such thing as a missing link. https://www.livescience.com/32530-what-is-the-missing-link.html



That's 14 Hominid species, ranging from about 4 M.Y. ago to a modern human skull ("N").

https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/5138/fossils-of-intermediate-stages

And as you can see, evolution is in fact real.
legendary
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July 15, 2018, 09:07:20 AM

You think there is such thing as a missing link, I proved you wrong, all the ''evidence'' you have against evolution usually consists of fallacies or plain wrong arguments as shown above.

As usual. Now you try to twist things to make it look like I am the one who thinks that there is a missing link.

There isn't any evolution missing link. In zillions of fossils, we haven't been able to find one that we can prove. Lots of talk. Lots of ideas. But no proof.

So, missing-link ideas, along with the rest of the evolution ideas, are simply science fiction.

Or, show us the proof for even one evolution form. Your talk isn't proof. Point us at the proof that is accepted as proof by science, not just places where scientists and quasi-scientists say they have proof without showing it. Or explain it in enough detail that we can see that it is proof.

Can't do it, right?

Evolution is a hoax. And thanks for keeping this thread alive by your lack of proof, while you are willing to talk with no proof behind what you say. More and more people are starting to wake up about the evolution hoax, just because of you. Good job!

Cool

You keep asking for examples after I provided them:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaenamontanari/2015/11/17/four-famous-transitional-fossils-that-support-evolution/#7ef7d9832d8d
https://study.com/academy/lesson/transitional-fossils-definition-examples.html
http://www.transitionalfossils.com/
https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/_0_0/lines_03



Show as many examples as you want. But what are you showing examples of? Certainly it isn't missing links that are the immediate evolution ancestor or descendant of any particular critter. In fact, they are not even close according to evolution theory. Why not? Because all the examples you show have too many differences for mutation to have occurred to make them immediately related. Evolution theory doesn't allow for that many mutations from one critter to the next to make it an immediate ancestor or descendant.

The point is, since we don't even have one critter that is even closely related by evidence, how do we know that they are related at all? Evolution is all guesswork. Your links are guesswork. They are religion if you believe them.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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July 15, 2018, 05:07:22 AM

You think there is such thing as a missing link, I proved you wrong, all the ''evidence'' you have against evolution usually consists of fallacies or plain wrong arguments as shown above.

As usual. Now you try to twist things to make it look like I am the one who thinks that there is a missing link.

There isn't any evolution missing link. In zillions of fossils, we haven't been able to find one that we can prove. Lots of talk. Lots of ideas. But no proof.

So, missing-link ideas, along with the rest of the evolution ideas, are simply science fiction.

Or, show us the proof for even one evolution form. Your talk isn't proof. Point us at the proof that is accepted as proof by science, not just places where scientists and quasi-scientists say they have proof without showing it. Or explain it in enough detail that we can see that it is proof.

Can't do it, right?

Evolution is a hoax. And thanks for keeping this thread alive by your lack of proof, while you are willing to talk with no proof behind what you say. More and more people are starting to wake up about the evolution hoax, just because of you. Good job!

Cool

You keep asking for examples after I provided them:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaenamontanari/2015/11/17/four-famous-transitional-fossils-that-support-evolution/#7ef7d9832d8d
https://study.com/academy/lesson/transitional-fossils-definition-examples.html
http://www.transitionalfossils.com/
https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/_0_0/lines_03

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July 15, 2018, 01:40:58 AM
When I studied at junior high school and learned about evolution theory as Charles Darwin said that the human is from apes. I disagree althought my teacher said that.
I do not want to be equated with apes. And I also rethinking: Why there are still monkeys that are still alive?

Why would there not be? Not all humans look the same, and they are still around. I mean you Got asian, african, European, etc. They dont look the same, so clearly humans evolved seperate in groups for some time and monkeys likewise-and seperate from humans
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July 15, 2018, 12:33:28 AM
When I studied at junior high school and learned about evolution theory as Charles Darwin said that the human is from apes. I disagree althought my teacher said that.
I do not want to be equated with apes. And I also rethinking: Why there are still monkeys that are still alive?
legendary
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July 14, 2018, 08:43:31 PM

You think there is such thing as a missing link, I proved you wrong, all the ''evidence'' you have against evolution usually consists of fallacies or plain wrong arguments as shown above.

As usual. Now you try to twist things to make it look like I am the one who thinks that there is a missing link.

There isn't any evolution missing link. In zillions of fossils, we haven't been able to find one that we can prove. Lots of talk. Lots of ideas. But no proof.

So, missing-link ideas, along with the rest of the evolution ideas, are simply science fiction.

Or, show us the proof for even one evolution form. Your talk isn't proof. Point us at the proof that is accepted as proof by science, not just places where scientists and quasi-scientists say they have proof without showing it. Or explain it in enough detail that we can see that it is proof.

Can't do it, right?

Evolution is a hoax. And thanks for keeping this thread alive by your lack of proof, while you are willing to talk with no proof behind what you say. More and more people are starting to wake up about the evolution hoax, just because of you. Good job!

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July 14, 2018, 07:37:17 PM

Who, besides you, says anything about an evolution fossil line-up? Just show one fossil that is the direct mutation of another fossil, that's all. Who cares where it came from?

Pick, as an example, some whale fossil that was the direct and immediate, previous ancestor to some other whale fossil. According to evolution theory, you couldn't tell the difference between the two animals from the fossils. Evolution theory says that the mutation would have to be too tiny to tell the difference by looking at the fossil. Even in Punctuated Evolution the difference would be too small to see in a fossil.

Now, if you had two, living whales, you might check their DNA to see the difference... the beneficial mutation. So, why hasn't anyone come up with something that they can prove is a beneficial mutation in a living creature, and not a simple adaptation?

The whole idea of using the fossil record for evolution studies is stupid, since there is no way to tell if a fossil is for-a-fact an evolutionary mutation of some other fossil, since their differences would be so small, and there is no way to check their DNA to make sure.

I don't know who started the idea of checking the fossil record. But if it was an evolutionist who did it, he was ignorant or just plain stupid. If it was a creationist, he was shrewd. Why? The fossil record can't be used on its own to prove or disprove evolution. The whole idea of using the fossil record is a distraction.

So, we are back to where we started. Prove it was evolution and not adaptation or something else. But remember in your proving... remember that it all acts by cause and effect, which means that even evolution - if it exists, somehow - is programmed in by whatever cause the universe in the Beginning. C&E alone show that...

Evolution is a hoax.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaenamontanari/2015/11/17/four-famous-transitional-fossils-that-support-evolution/#69eeb2452d8d


I guess you have to accept evolution now.

What I accept isn't important. According to the sites in your links, science doesn't accept evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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I debunked the ''missing links myth'' and provided examples of transitional fossils yet you don't want to accept evolution because it goes against your religious beliefs.

Actually, I and many others have debunked evolution. You simply don't accept it because it goes against your evolution religion.

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You think there is such thing as a missing link, I proved you wrong, all the ''evidence'' you have against evolution usually consists of fallacies or plain wrong arguments as shown above.
legendary
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July 14, 2018, 02:28:48 PM

Who, besides you, says anything about an evolution fossil line-up? Just show one fossil that is the direct mutation of another fossil, that's all. Who cares where it came from?

Pick, as an example, some whale fossil that was the direct and immediate, previous ancestor to some other whale fossil. According to evolution theory, you couldn't tell the difference between the two animals from the fossils. Evolution theory says that the mutation would have to be too tiny to tell the difference by looking at the fossil. Even in Punctuated Evolution the difference would be too small to see in a fossil.

Now, if you had two, living whales, you might check their DNA to see the difference... the beneficial mutation. So, why hasn't anyone come up with something that they can prove is a beneficial mutation in a living creature, and not a simple adaptation?

The whole idea of using the fossil record for evolution studies is stupid, since there is no way to tell if a fossil is for-a-fact an evolutionary mutation of some other fossil, since their differences would be so small, and there is no way to check their DNA to make sure.

I don't know who started the idea of checking the fossil record. But if it was an evolutionist who did it, he was ignorant or just plain stupid. If it was a creationist, he was shrewd. Why? The fossil record can't be used on its own to prove or disprove evolution. The whole idea of using the fossil record is a distraction.

So, we are back to where we started. Prove it was evolution and not adaptation or something else. But remember in your proving... remember that it all acts by cause and effect, which means that even evolution - if it exists, somehow - is programmed in by whatever cause the universe in the Beginning. C&E alone show that...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaenamontanari/2015/11/17/four-famous-transitional-fossils-that-support-evolution/#69eeb2452d8d


I guess you have to accept evolution now.

What I accept isn't important. According to the sites in your links, science doesn't accept evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

I debunked the ''missing links myth'' and provided examples of transitional fossils yet you don't want to accept evolution because it goes against your religious beliefs.

Actually, I and many others have debunked evolution. You simply don't accept it because it goes against your evolution religion.

Cool
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Activity: 1624
Merit: 645
July 13, 2018, 06:51:17 PM

Who, besides you, says anything about an evolution fossil line-up? Just show one fossil that is the direct mutation of another fossil, that's all. Who cares where it came from?

Pick, as an example, some whale fossil that was the direct and immediate, previous ancestor to some other whale fossil. According to evolution theory, you couldn't tell the difference between the two animals from the fossils. Evolution theory says that the mutation would have to be too tiny to tell the difference by looking at the fossil. Even in Punctuated Evolution the difference would be too small to see in a fossil.

Now, if you had two, living whales, you might check their DNA to see the difference... the beneficial mutation. So, why hasn't anyone come up with something that they can prove is a beneficial mutation in a living creature, and not a simple adaptation?

The whole idea of using the fossil record for evolution studies is stupid, since there is no way to tell if a fossil is for-a-fact an evolutionary mutation of some other fossil, since their differences would be so small, and there is no way to check their DNA to make sure.

I don't know who started the idea of checking the fossil record. But if it was an evolutionist who did it, he was ignorant or just plain stupid. If it was a creationist, he was shrewd. Why? The fossil record can't be used on its own to prove or disprove evolution. The whole idea of using the fossil record is a distraction.

So, we are back to where we started. Prove it was evolution and not adaptation or something else. But remember in your proving... remember that it all acts by cause and effect, which means that even evolution - if it exists, somehow - is programmed in by whatever cause the universe in the Beginning. C&E alone show that...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaenamontanari/2015/11/17/four-famous-transitional-fossils-that-support-evolution/#69eeb2452d8d


I guess you have to accept evolution now.

What I accept isn't important. According to the sites in your links, science doesn't accept evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

I debunked the ''missing links myth'' and provided examples of transitional fossils yet you don't want to accept evolution because it goes against your religious beliefs.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
July 13, 2018, 03:33:26 PM

Who, besides you, says anything about an evolution fossil line-up? Just show one fossil that is the direct mutation of another fossil, that's all. Who cares where it came from?

Pick, as an example, some whale fossil that was the direct and immediate, previous ancestor to some other whale fossil. According to evolution theory, you couldn't tell the difference between the two animals from the fossils. Evolution theory says that the mutation would have to be too tiny to tell the difference by looking at the fossil. Even in Punctuated Evolution the difference would be too small to see in a fossil.

Now, if you had two, living whales, you might check their DNA to see the difference... the beneficial mutation. So, why hasn't anyone come up with something that they can prove is a beneficial mutation in a living creature, and not a simple adaptation?

The whole idea of using the fossil record for evolution studies is stupid, since there is no way to tell if a fossil is for-a-fact an evolutionary mutation of some other fossil, since their differences would be so small, and there is no way to check their DNA to make sure.

I don't know who started the idea of checking the fossil record. But if it was an evolutionist who did it, he was ignorant or just plain stupid. If it was a creationist, he was shrewd. Why? The fossil record can't be used on its own to prove or disprove evolution. The whole idea of using the fossil record is a distraction.

So, we are back to where we started. Prove it was evolution and not adaptation or something else. But remember in your proving... remember that it all acts by cause and effect, which means that even evolution - if it exists, somehow - is programmed in by whatever cause the universe in the Beginning. C&E alone show that...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaenamontanari/2015/11/17/four-famous-transitional-fossils-that-support-evolution/#69eeb2452d8d


I guess you have to accept evolution now.

What I accept isn't important. According to the sites in your links, science doesn't accept evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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