Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 65. (Read 108030 times)

Dude, the amount of disinformation... I never thought that people could really believe these things...

I mean, it's all there, you just have to learn how to understand certain principles and use different tools such as statistics, mathematics, biology, physics (etc..), and you will be able to understand so many things. You will also realize how little you previously knew and wonder how much more knowledge there is that you do not possess..

But why would you do all that boring work and study these things for years to get the understanding you need when you can just google some attractive, mystical conspiracy subjects and theories for 2 hours and feel like you understand and know everything.

Nope, they all have a ton of evidence behind them and are normal examples of evolution, you can find hundreds. All of them with evidence and proof.  You can see it in humans, there are plenty of fossils of our ancestors.

https://hastyreader.com/anagenesis-cladogenesis/

All of these are documented facts, you are just delusional.

They debunk themselves right in their own language. In what way? you might ask. In the way that the language is full of things that haven't been proven, and often don't make any sense, or are incomplete, or lack facts to support them. All you have to do is track down all the statements in every example to its base, and you will come up with circular references, or dead ends.

Evolution is a hoax.

I think that you don't understand me. I am one of those who would highly agree that evolution doesn't work this way. Another way evolution doesn't work is according to evolution theory.


This has to do with your eating of more meat, particularly beef, than your father and grandfather. But if it doesn't, it has to do with the genetics of your ancestors, including your mother and grandmother, but possibly a nutrient defect within yourself that caused you to have abnormally high HGH in your body.


Your evolution is genetic programming, environmentally directed, or simple adaptation.



I use "evolution" in the Model T way on occasion. We are similar in this. Where we differ is evolution theory evolution (ETE), which is different than Model T evolution, and other forms of change listed above.

We have no proven example of evolution theory evolution... not even one. We have a lot of people who suggest or believe in ETE. Essentially all of the ETE evidence can be shown to be adaptation or something other than ETE, better and easier than it can be shown to be ETE.

Evolution theory evolution is a hoax, even if you want to use the word "evolution" for simple changes in things other than ETE... including adaptation and simple change.

I think we have quite a different view of what evolution is. I get the feeling you think, you take one part chicken and another part chicken, put it in a pot and out comes a horse. Some kind of terraforming that should happened at one point or another. A magical change.

Evolution never worked this way and never will work this way.

I’m taller than my father, and his father and his father. I know this, because I knew them all. It’s the result of ever taller parents producing offspring’s. Apparently taller people in the last 100-500-1000? years have had a better chance of reproduction. I don’t know, just guessing.

Either way, I’m better than my father at grabbing apples of a tree, because I’m taller. I can get some he can’t. It is not something I adopted to, I’m by nature better at it. I was born more suited for it. Is it a skill I can use in our time, probably not. But at one point in time it maybe could have been. Is it programming, sure is, a specified mix of DNA gave this result. Any other mix would maybe have given me something similar, but not quite the same. I have evolved.

So to answer if a Ford T from 1908 has evolved to what Ford sells now – absolutely! This is evolution. You take what you have, mix it, improve on it, and you get something new, possible better – but it is society that judges if a given change is better for society as a whole, not the changes themselves. The only difference between cars and humans is that cars needs help to reproduce, humans does not.  Might change in the future, but either way, its still evolution.

If it was evident, any test would work.

Anyway, you don't have a test.  I rest my case. 

You cannot even test if God exist, never mind proving that your God exists.

Step back, figure out how to test it.  Repeat the test many times.  Collect the results.  Draw the conclusions.

What if God is not a being or anything like that. What if God is just an idea, a collective way of acting and thinking.. just like the economy is.. The more people using the currency make the value of it go up. What if God is a similar principle; the more people believe in it the more widespread those ideas become..

I'm not very religious but if your religion makes you do good to others than I'll support that idea and help spread it..

That's a neat idea you have there. But just saying it doesn't mean anything, since simple adaptation fits it better than evolution theory evolution.


The Model T Ford was first produced in 1908. Nowadays Ford makes all kinds of other cars, as well. Is this evolution?

The point in this topic has been evolution theory evolution. Evolution theory evolution does not include every type of change. And the so-called evolution theory evolutionary changes fit plain old adaptation better than they fit evolution theory.



It's called genetic programming, and operates according to the laws of physics which act through cause and effect. In other words, it is programming. And programming has a programmer.

This part of your questions is starting into the idea of Who or What the Programmer of the Universe is. But the point of this thread is that the available facts do not fit evolution theory evolution. Google "evolution impossible."

why wouldn't there be monkeys?? I think that you might be thinking that us humans evolved from monkies, that's not true at all. Humans and monkeys evolved from the same species that's not a monkey nor a human. that species is often referred to as a "common ancestor". as the time passed by that "common ancestor" evolved into 2 or more different species the same way pigs that humans domesticated evolved so differently from the pigs that were in the wild that they become 2 different species (pigs and wild boars).

So what is your test?  Let's go, let's test if God exist.  List all the steps of your scientific test and the expected result.

Or be quiet forever.

Why you say that? What do you mean you can't find any factual example? All offspring’s of all species on this planet is an example! There are 100 of trillions of examples for you to view right this instant.

There is nothing complex about evolution, its rather simple - it’s just change, any change.

Ok so I ask another way; if all species are created and never change, why do all individual specimens not look the same of each species? Why do all humans not look they very same, and I mean the very same? Why do they keep coming up with new forms, shapes and sizes? What would you call this every changing, renewing physical appearances?

Nope, those are examples of evolution and you can't debunk them so you type simple sentences so your brain doesn't stop working. It happens all the time, your brain has a defense mechanism, it will not accept being wrong and it has to ignore these arguments.

Those are examples of suggested evolution by novices and scientists who wish that they were examples of evolution. They are inconclusive regarding evolution. But they are not inconclusive regarding being simple adaptation.

https://www.wired.com/2008/12/evolutionexampl/

https://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/

http://www.businessinsider.com/recent-human-evolution-traits-2016-8?IR=T

Plenty of examples.

Again, there is no need for testing something that is excessively in use all over the world. Every time that a scientist makes an experiment, he is using the same stuff that proves God. In other words, take your pick of scientific experiments for your test example.

It's really difficult to think that something as detailed, complex, and drawn-out-in-time as evolution, might exist when you can't even find one factual example of it. If the evidences that are suggested to be for evolution, didn't fit adaptation or something else better, we might have a reason to suggest that we should go looking for something like evolution.

There isn't any evolution theory evolution. We have nothing that says that there is evolution except a bunch of scientific people who suggest something that is essentially impossible, while ignoring the things that are highly probable.  That's it!

Evolution is a hoax!

I get the feeling we are not really discussing, you just don’t want evolution to exist, which is fair enough that you don’t believe in it. To each his own.

Evolution is change, any kind of change. You believe in adoption, but not evolution? If you adopt or acquire a new skill, have you not essential evolved? It might not be a physical change with your new found knowledge; it can still be passed on though. You are able to adopt mental, in skill, in knowledge, in behavior, yet somehow physical adoption seems too far stretch for you?

There is amber evidence in every species that they have looked different at one point, including humans. Leftovers include tail bone, thirteenth rib (8%), appendix, little toe, wisdom teeth, neck rib (1%), third eyelid, extrinsic ear muscles (like dogs and cats) and augmentable male nipples and body hair.

Seems God was not really sure how we should look during creation.

You don't test for the evident. But if you want to try, go ahead.

Two posts up, and a whole lot of other posts in this thread, show that evolution is a hoax. The alternative is God, or do you have another alternative?

Proof(s) for God:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Now remember. This is the evolution hoax thread. Peruse the Scientific proof that God exists thread ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322 ) to see the proof for God.

GAPING holes in evolutionary theory leave scientists baffled (and Darwin rolling in his grave)







Read more at https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-06-20-gaping-holes-in-evolutionary-theory-scientists-baffled.html.

Since you don't list them, or their source posts, how would anyone know if you have any credibility in what you say?