Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 69. (Read 108050 times)

All the evolution books are religious books.

The earth and the laws of physics in the form that they have been for the past approximately 6,000 years, are different than they were before 6,000 years ago, IF indeed the universe is older than 6,000 years or so. The idea that some of the before-6,000-years-ago physics is similar to that which exists now might be true. But there isn't any evolution outside of simple change, and adaptation. We don't know what might have gone before, if there was a before.


But this hasn't been proven. It is simply an idea. The thing that we see all around us is opposite. A chicken doesn't have "children" that are goats. Chickens only bear chickens. Cows, cows. Bears, bears. Roses, roses. Oak trees, oak trees. Salmon, salmon. Whatever only bears whatever, not something else.

The common evidence in nature is like begets like. It happens all over the place, countless trillions upon trillions of times. Twisting it to suggest that evolution has happened - evolution would be like something begets something else - is trying to state that something happened that is not in evidence anywhere.



The Darwin book you recommend is a religious book, and a really weird one. The fact that there are similarities between many plants and animals, simply shows that they/we can all live in harmony on the same planet, in similar habitats. It has nothing to do with the garbage Darwin suggests.

How can you say Evolution is a hoax?

Just because religious books such as the bible and most ancient texts do not go farther than 6000 years ago does not mean that where we are today did not come thru the survival of the fittest thru evolution
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DNA and GENE technology nowadays shows link thru the different species that have resulted in what we are today.

The one main book I recommend reading is Charles Darwin's Theory of evolution. It was an eye opener in its days as it still is relevant in this day and age.

I recommend this book to anyone who does not believe how we slowly evolved from other animals to what we are today.

Sometimes, I tend to become overwhelmed about the facts presented by Charles Darwin on his Theory of Evolution. You will come to a time where you can think that oh maybe it is possible. This theory came a long process and the dedication of Darwin puts it in this far. But when we looked it furthermore, there are really inconsistencies that was presented in the theory. I've read an argument about monkeys that why it exists today given the argument of Darwin that humans were from monkeys. The inconsistencies presented make it somehow a hoax but let's see on how the future will look like, if it will be proved or not along the way.

The video in the OP is gone. Perhaps you meant to show this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fhlYFQA840

I was hoping you might have a little bit of an answer this time. But did you notice the word you used following "radioactive decay?" That word is "seems." When does "seems" in one thing match "fact" in trillions of things? In addition, you can't explain how radioactive decay seems to not be cause and effect. But entropy shows the beginning, which means that even if radioactive decay was started at the beginning, it had a cause that it is the effect of.

Our universe is a caused thing that operates by cause and effect. God, being outside of the universe before the universe was created, doesn't have to follow the laws of the universe. How many times do you have to read this before you can think about it and let it sink in?

As far as randomness being outside of the universe, such is entirely possible. But since we are barely able to analyze a little part of the things that are within the universe, why should we be able to even think well enough to analyze something without. We don't know that random exists outside of the universe, and we don't have a clue about how to determine it. We can barely conceive of what outside of the universe means.

Here's the explanation again:

You say that there is no such thing as true randomness because C&E is in everything, therefore evolution has to be a hoax.

I'm saying that, first of all, some things like radioactive decay seems to be truly random, we don't know just like we don't know if they aren't.

Moreover if everything has a cause, what caused god? You then say that god is outside the universe, bla bla, the typical made up shit and you say that he has no cause. So if god, that created the universe, has no cause, then everything is indeed random in the way that the first cause of everything has no cause and it is random.

You are so funny   You have debunked your purported debunking over and over again. How? By not explaining any science in your so-called debunking. All you do is state that you have done some debunking.

Perhaps you have posted some links to something and called it debunking. But you wouldn't know if anything in your links debunked anything that I posted. Why not? Because you don't know what anything in your own links is talking about. How do we know this? Because you haven't been able to explain it. And even when you talk a little science, you can't refute the science that shows that your science is faulty.

You have been debunked. Your debunking has been debunked, and you have helped debunk your own debunking by not being able to support it with anything other than repeating some words that say you debunked something.

OWW, gottem. Too much logic for you at once eh? YOu are the one saying that cause and effect proves evolution is a hoax, I debunked it, deal with it, don't be a baby and admit when you lose.

You seem to miss the point. This is the evolution thread. Just because you evolutionists can't think of anything else besides evolution or creation, shows that you are faulty in your evolution.

Evolution is a hoax. (Just tryin' ta stay on topic.)

You also seem to miss the fact that if what created the universe, as you claim, was god and he is truly random since cause and effect do not apply to him, that means that everything is random. Picture it like this. Planets orbits are not random, they had a cause and that cause had a cause until you reach your god which had no cause so ultimately the cause for everything is something with no cause, meaning that everything is indeed random.

Regarding talking snakes, quantum mechanics could be used to show that they exist... if anybody was inclined to use it that way.

You continually seem to miss the part that true random is something that we have no knowledge of regarding its existence. We can barely conceive of the concept. If it isn't pure random, it isn't really random.

The point is, everything exists according to cause and effect. We have multitudes of observations of C&E, but no pure random observations at all.

Apply this to evolution. Simply, all that it means is that evolution theory plays on the ignorance of unthinking people when it uses the word random. Why? Because the word random as average people use it, doesn't apply to the way that evolution theory suggests that random would works in mutations. They are different concepts that use the same word, random.

The point revolves around you being ignorant enough to not understand this, or...

You being enough of a troll that you would rather trick people into your evolution religion through the use of semantics regarding the word random.

Random in everyday life isn't the same as random in evolution theory.

Evolution is a hoax.

As usual what I said flew right over your head. I was trying to say that even though we use the word random for many things it doesn't mean they are truly random like casino games a coin toss or a dice. In the same way evolutionists and scientists use the word random not only in evolution theory but many other theories. Again that doesn't mean it's truly random.

So, do you believe in talking snakes or not?

Thank you for admitting that evolution is a hoax without defense.

How are you admitting it? By using wording that has nothing to do with evolution, and is inappropriate for the point you are making.

The fact that casino games exist, has nothing to do with whether or not they are random. And random or not, they have nothing to do with evolution.

So, thanks for helping to substantiate that Evolution is a hoax...
by trying to defend it, but showing nothing in its defense.

Then casino games also don't exist because they are not random either, hehehe, badecker's logic.

So? Start a thread.

If nothing else, the observation of billions or trillions of cause-and-effect actions that happen all around us, and the fact that we have not found even one action that we can say came about without C&E, shows that the random mutations required for evolution simply don't exist. Everything has a cause. There is no random. But if there is a random action somewhere, we have not found it amidst billions and trillions C&E actions.

Evolution theory is a fun idea. But there is no basis for it that we know about in nature and reality.

Evolution is a hoax.

Talking snakes, witches and demons seem more like science fiction than evolution, though. You claim creationism is the real deal but you would have to believe in all those stories too, so tell me badecker, do talking snakes exist?

What does anger have to do with accepting the truth? And why do you think that I am angry? Most people want the truth in life. So far, evolution is purely science fiction.

The science fiction novel, "Fallen Angels," was co authored by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Michael Flynn, and published by Jim Baen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Angels_%28science_fiction_novel%29. But we have thousands of novelists writing and speaking about evolution as though it were a proven fact when there has never been anything in it that has been proven to be, for-a-fact, evolution.

If evolutionists said something like, "We have a good story here, it might be true but we just don't know, we'd like it to be true but there is a lot that suggests that it isn't," and other things like that, evolution would probably be acceptable. But to state that it is fact when it is far from being known to be fact, and when many other things show that it is impossible as it is theoretically stated, turns it into a lie.

Why do you like being lied to so much? Why do you like participating in a lie like evolution? Are you gaining great pleasure in seeing how far you can pull the wool over the eyes of so many people?

Evolution is a hoax, and you know it.

Well it is a paradox. One can never prove Darwins theory but one can never dismiss it entirely. We have no proof of evolution as it takes place over thousands of years and will have to stick with the theory until we come across a better theory which explains our existence in this world.

I don't really understand your aversion to accept evolution, you seem perfectly fine accepting adaption but no, not evolution itself, why are you so angry about it? Is it because you think it disproves god? Many religious accept evolution and still believe in god, I'm curious what made you this angry.

Your link is completely theoretical. There is all kinds of idealism and hopes within it. But not of it shows even one factual thing regarding evolution. All the points within it still fit adaptation better.

Evolution is proven to be a hoax more than ever, because all attempts to show that it is not a hoax, revolve around talk rather than hard science.