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Quote from: darxiaomi on February 17, 2022, 06:14:38 PM

Do you see the new Ferrari? I really like this new F1 car made for Ferrari, The only thing i have to note its was when the pilots say any like-
"Yes, its beautifull and we hope fast in the race". But they said this like no much hope, or may or may they are oculting some

Anyways. i think Ferrari this year its back on top 3 and can fight for race wins.

We can't say it until we see how well the new machine performs. Every year, Ferrari and other teams are saying that their cars are better than ever, only to show lackluster performances even on qualifying rounds. Ferrari is, no doubt, one of the top performing cars in F1 with the right driver, but it still lags behind Mercedes and Red Bull, and most recently, behind McLaren and Alpine albeit being one of the top 3 just the past few years. We'll see it when we see it, and right now I'm not confident that Ferrari can comfortably take top 3 right now.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on February 17, 2022, 06:14:38 PM

Anyways. i think Ferrari this year its back on top 3 and can fight for race wins.

With so drastic changes anybody can get on any places. The fact you like Ferrari more or whether the car's colors are better doesn't matter much.
We will have to see them compete for a couple of races to know. We will have to see which ones will be this year both fast and reliable.

I would actually prefer that at least in the first 5-6 races the winner will be from different team every single race. That would mean that gap between the cars is small and there will be real competition.

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Do you see the new Ferrari? I really like this new F1 car made for Ferrari, The only thing i have to note its was when the pilots say any like-
"Yes, its beautifull and we hope fast in the race". But they said this like no much hope, or may or may they are oculting some

Anyways. i think Ferrari this year its back on top 3 and can fight for race wins.

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Quote from: rdbase on December 20, 2021, 01:07:38 AM

All thats happened during the season and especially for the championship race makes for good material towards the next Drive to Survive series on Netflix.

If you haven't watched it yet I recommend you do so to catch up on the past three seasons of the documentary in the world of F1 and it's drivers.
https://www.engadget.com/recommended-reading-netflix-formula-1-drive-to-survive-150045531.html
It turned me into an instant fan only after watching the first season.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/dec/17/netflixs-drive-to-survive-americans-f1-fans

Season 4 will have all the drama, excitement and also the controversy to make it the best one yet.

Looks like they will have the start of the fourth season next month.
Usually it is debuted around this time near the middle or end of February. But I guess they had some more material to put into it for later in the racing season.
https://f1i.com/news/432078-netflix-reveals-release-date-for-drive-to-survive-season-4.html

Get ready for March 11th for the first episode.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on February 09, 2022, 06:39:46 PM

Good good information, but i think this is pure comercial shit, why this did not go outside before? Ohhh yes its more dust to the MV and RB steal, and i want Max Verstappen to beat Lewis. But this was clearly a steal in the last lap.
And why i said its commercial shit? because ohhhh casualty its the becoming of the season. They save this audio to made this.
The new company media who own the rights say years before they are going to put a lot of show, and yes this made a ton of dollars and spectators but this its going outside the box.

Please dont misunderstand me, i really like the last season was amazing and we hope the becoming with the new regulations keeps going like this but please dont break the rules to do that.

It was the driving director who's audio messages came out in the past couple of days and yes it does seem like just steam.
And just to remind you he is the one who makes the rules during the race because it seems that FIA standards were not upheld in the race of Abu Dhabi that day.

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Good good information, but i think this is pure comercial shit, why this did not go outside before? Ohhh yes its more dust to the MV and RB steal, and i want Max Verstappen to beat Lewis. But this was clearly a steal in the last lap.
And why i said its commercial shit? because ohhhh casualty its the becoming of the season. They save this audio to made this.
The new company media who own the rights say years before they are going to put a lot of show, and yes this made a ton of dollars and spectators but this its going outside the box.

Please dont misunderstand me, i really like the last season was amazing and we hope the becoming with the new regulations keeps going like this but please dont break the rules to do that.

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There was some released radio messages from the race in Abu Dhabi involving the race director Michael Massi and red bull during the last moments of the race.
Here is the link and the source inwhere they found it from https://www.reddit.com/r/MotorsportsReplays/comments/rmt810/f1tv_inside_story_2020_and_2021_season_1080p50/ :

https://twitter.com/F1_Jordan/status/1491184614345707520

This won't change anything but it is still interesting to hear what went on during these tense moments which determined who won the F1 season championship.
Makes for good material for the next series of Drive to survive.

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Quote from: mardaed on December 26, 2021, 03:44:38 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 05:34:56 AM

Hamilton should be happy to have his title taken this year - this will draw attention to Formula 1 in the coming seasons and possibly give Hamilton some extra points to be considered the best driver in history. If he churned out championships from year to year until the very end of his career, then many would accuse him of not having real competition and his achievements are worthless.

The real problem is not that he lost, but he lost at the last lap of the last race and that's the biggest thing to overcome. I mean if he had a fresher tire or they did another strategy or they were a bit more lukcy so forth so forth there are many "what if" situations. If he lost by 50 points then I am sure he would be fine, give Max a few more wins where he crashed out like Silverstone or baku or hungary or monza or maybe all of them and Max would be way far ahead and Hamilton wouldn't be this upset to be fair. But ending up with just the last lap did made it hurt a bit more I am sure. I am not a Hamilton fan at all and even I felt a bit sorry for him that night.

A drama for Hamilton and his fans, but for the Formula 1 enthusiast it was a great spectacle last season. Secretly, Hamilton also enjoyed this. It seems pretty boring to me to be world champion every year without any opposition. He just had bad luck the last race. Verstappen has also had a lot of bad luck in the previous races, is part of it and that is what makes the sport so beautiful.

I'd have to agree with the highlighted statement above.
It makes for great viewing and the drivers do like the competition to be heated and Lewis did have a good time.
Still watching the seasons on Netflix and all drivers do love the sport and all that comes with it.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 05:34:56 AM

Hamilton should be happy to have his title taken this year - this will draw attention to Formula 1 in the coming seasons and possibly give Hamilton some extra points to be considered the best driver in history. If he churned out championships from year to year until the very end of his career, then many would accuse him of not having real competition and his achievements are worthless.

The real problem is not that he lost, but he lost at the last lap of the last race and that's the biggest thing to overcome. I mean if he had a fresher tire or they did another strategy or they were a bit more lukcy so forth so forth there are many "what if" situations. If he lost by 50 points then I am sure he would be fine, give Max a few more wins where he crashed out like Silverstone or baku or hungary or monza or maybe all of them and Max would be way far ahead and Hamilton wouldn't be this upset to be fair. But ending up with just the last lap did made it hurt a bit more I am sure. I am not a Hamilton fan at all and even I felt a bit sorry for him that night.

A drama for Hamilton and his fans, but for the Formula 1 enthusiast it was a great spectacle last season. Secretly, Hamilton also enjoyed this. It seems pretty boring to me to be world champion every year without any opposition. He just had bad luck the last race. Verstappen has also had a lot of bad luck in the previous races, is part of it and that is what makes the sport so beautiful.

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Quote from: rdbase on December 24, 2021, 03:33:15 PM

Hope this helps. Because yeah they are quite expensive here too.

How much is it for you? Here is not so expensive.
27€ yearly or 3€ monlty

There are two packages available.
The F1TV access one which costs $27usd here and there is the F1Tv Pro one where it is $80usd not including the discount with the code which is for a limited time just before the beginning of the new racing season.
I was referring to the Pro package which is still expensive at 60usd for a streaming service.
Think I pay less for netflix and Disney Plus if I pay annually for those two.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on December 25, 2021, 02:53:29 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 05:34:56 AM

Hamilton should be happy to have his title taken this year - this will draw attention to Formula 1 in the coming seasons and possibly give Hamilton some extra points to be considered the best driver in history. If he churned out championships from year to year until the very end of his career, then many would accuse him of not having real competition and his achievements are worthless.

The real problem is not that he lost, but he lost at the last lap of the last race and that's the biggest thing to overcome. I mean if he had a fresher tire or they did another strategy or they were a bit more lukcy so forth so forth there are many "what if" situations. If he lost by 50 points then I am sure he would be fine, give Max a few more wins where he crashed out like Silverstone or baku or hungary or monza or maybe all of them and Max would be way far ahead and Hamilton wouldn't be this upset to be fair. But ending up with just the last lap did made it hurt a bit more I am sure. I am not a Hamilton fan at all and even I felt a bit sorry for him that night.

Well, I don’t know... If this was a decisive race for an elderly rider who knew for sure that he would not have another chance before retirement or something like that, then it might be more or less tragic. But for the seven-time world champion who has undoubtedly already written his name in history and in the next championship will again be a favorite in the fight for the title, this is just an unpleasant episode in a great career. For me, in this situation, feeling sorry for Hamilton is like feeling sorry for a billionaire who lost a couple of million dollars on a temporary correction Grin

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 05:34:56 AM

Hamilton should be happy to have his title taken this year - this will draw attention to Formula 1 in the coming seasons and possibly give Hamilton some extra points to be considered the best driver in history. If he churned out championships from year to year until the very end of his career, then many would accuse him of not having real competition and his achievements are worthless.

The real problem is not that he lost, but he lost at the last lap of the last race and that's the biggest thing to overcome. I mean if he had a fresher tire or they did another strategy or they were a bit more lukcy so forth so forth there are many "what if" situations. If he lost by 50 points then I am sure he would be fine, give Max a few more wins where he crashed out like Silverstone or baku or hungary or monza or maybe all of them and Max would be way far ahead and Hamilton wouldn't be this upset to be fair. But ending up with just the last lap did made it hurt a bit more I am sure. I am not a Hamilton fan at all and even I felt a bit sorry for him that night.

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Quote from: rdbase on December 24, 2021, 03:33:15 PM

Hope this helps. Because yeah they are quite expensive here too.

How much is it for you? Here is not so expensive.

27€ yearly or 3€ monlty

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Quote from: aoluain on December 25, 2021, 02:01:35 AM

I agree that it's bad sportsmanship but it seems that in F1 the sport gets very
personal. Look at the Netflix shows, the behind the scenes of the racing breeds
this sort of thing where drivers can develop grudges against their opponents.

Hamilton didnt need the F1 title this year, financially speaking, it is just
another accolade and he didnt get it, next year is another chance.

I find it a bit juvenile if him not to show up, fined rightly so.

Hamilton should be happy to have his title taken this year - this will draw attention to Formula 1 in the coming seasons and possibly give Hamilton some extra points to be considered the best driver in history. If he churned out championships from year to year until the very end of his career, then many would accuse him of not having real competition and his achievements are worthless.

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Quote from: STT on December 24, 2021, 10:35:56 PM

On one hand that does appear bad sportsmanship but since Hamilton was genuinely in bad temper over the outcome it perhaps wisest not to turn up in that way and make a bad situation worse by saying or even doing the wrong thing at the event. Apparently he will be fined but I find that a bit ridiculous, in his best judgement he wasnt able to celebrate at that time and to me thats just genuine rather then bad sport particularly. Later hopefully or I would hope he definitely gets over it and realizes **** happens.

I agree that it's bad sportsmanship but it seems that in F1 the sport gets very
personal. Look at the Netflix shows, the behind the scenes of the racing breeds
this sort of thing where drivers can develop grudges against their opponents.

Hamilton didnt need the F1 title this year, financially speaking, it is just
another accolade and he didnt get it, next year is another chance.

I find it a bit juvenile if him not to show up, fined rightly so.

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On one hand that does appear bad sportsmanship but since Hamilton was genuinely in bad temper over the outcome it perhaps wisest not to turn up in that way and make a bad situation worse by saying or even doing the wrong thing at the event. Apparently he will be fined but I find that a bit ridiculous, in his best judgement he wasnt able to celebrate at that time and to me thats just genuine rather then bad sport particularly. Later hopefully or I would hope he definitely gets over it and realizes **** happens.

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Quote from: Trofo on December 24, 2021, 03:53:39 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on December 23, 2021, 06:04:40 PM

And I don't think that €7.99/month for streaming service is very expensive.

I was looking at yearly subscription and it seems to high for me. Especially since F1 season does not last whole year, just 8 months or so. Therefore I expected a better discount. As it stands now I will take a monthly sub and activate it close to season start.

Thanks to everybody offering me insight

Might as well just use the one on their official site as they offer discounts right before the season starts at 25% off.
Here is the break down without a need to concede anything of what they have to offer for their streaming package in this deal:
For the last season the code F1TV25 was for the Pro Package & TV access package.

Pro package offers:
Live stream every track session for all GPs
Access all driver onboard cameras & team radios
Live stream F1, F2, F3 and Porsche Supercup
Watch F1 on demand*
Full Race replays and highlights
On demand access to all F1 onboard cameras
Watch all F1, F2, F3, Porsche Supercup replays
F1's historic race archive
Full access to all live timing features

TV Access Package:
Watch F1 on demand
Full Race replays and highlights
On demand access to all F1 onboard cameras
Watch all F1, F2, F3, Porsche Supercup replays
F1's historic race archive

Hope this helps. Because yeah they are quite expensive here too.

Also on a side note, Hamilton did not attend the gala where Max was awarded the F1 championship award and so was fined for not showing up.
https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/32880861/lewis-hamilton-toto-wolff-not-attend-fia-prizegiving-gala
And the reaction of Toto Wolff not showing up either.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/101769/horner-reacts-to-wolff-and-hamilton-not-attending-fia-gala.html

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Quote from: LTU_btc on December 23, 2021, 06:04:40 PM

And I don't think that €7.99/month for streaming service is very expensive.

I was looking at yearly subscription and it seems to high for me. Especially since F1 season does not last whole year, just 8 months or so. Therefore I expected a better discount. As it stands now I will take a monthly sub and activate it close to season start.

Thanks to everybody offering me insight

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Quote from: dezoel on December 23, 2021, 02:56:25 PM

All those mazepin type of stuff and pay drivers and netflix and all those things done to make some more money really hurts my fun and I do not know what to do about it but I just can say it makes the sport worse.

Yes. The issue is Masi rather than Mazepin, though. It was decided that Verstappen would be champion because it would be more exciting to have a final lap shootout with one guy on brand new softs and one guy on very old hards, so the guy on softs can do a dramatic if inevitable overtake and snatch the title. Of course everyone understands that if Hamilton won the title behind a safety car, there would be sporting justice, but no dramatic finale. So entertainment won over sport. Hamilton is the loser because he had the title stolen by the race director breaking his own rules, and Verstappen is also the loser, because everyone knows he didn't win the title, it was given to him. Either Hamilton or Verstappen would have been a worthy champion if it had been decided fairly on the track... but the FIA have made it so that from a sporting perspective, nobody wins. But they're not interested in the sporting perspective, only the $$$ generated by the entertainment.

Losers: Hamilton, Verstappen, sporting credibility.
Winners: "Drive to Survive!" TV series.

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Quote from: dezoel on December 23, 2021, 02:56:25 PM

Long story short I watch this as a "gladatorial" thing and not as a fun entertainment thing, I want to see the fastest cars and the best drivers. All those mazepin type of stuff and pay drivers and netflix and all those things done to make some more money really hurts my fun and I do not know what to do about it but I just can say it makes the sport worse.

You have completely correctly identified the correct attitude towards this sport. I really liked this concept of "All those mazepin type of stuff and pay drivers and netflix"
Of course, when among the real talented racers on the track someone with completely ordinary qualities of a driver rides for fun, this discredits the very spirit of competition.
I really do not like that such famous races as F1 are still so strongly subjected to financial pressure. And I'm a little surprised - really the organizers of the races do not have enough money to trade places for teams that are still an order of magnitude lower than the rest. And, accordingly, allow practically non-professional racers to race who are just having fun?

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