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And we have the qualifying results...

_{Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/2024/italian-grand-prix/results#Qualifying}

Norris is on the pole which isn't a big surprise anymore. Piastri is tailing him right behind by a really small gap. But probably Norris will be much faster in racing pace.

I really didn't expect this from Ferrari. I thought one of them would be competitive for pole position at least, especially Leclerc. But he wasn't satisfied with the balance of his car and it affected his performance directly. Sad

Verstappen had a terrible day. Ending the season in such a bad place will make things even harder for him. He has already been struggling with the car because of a similar reason to Leclerc's.

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Quote from: boltz on August 31, 2024, 05:21:48 AM

Yea...I feel bad for Andreea Kimi but he shouldn't have forced that car in Fp1 like it's qualifying round and he didn't have to prove he is a fast driver or anything related to speed. His main concern should have been to have a clean driving session and listen to what his team is asking from him while he is doing FP1 but instead he made a huge rookie mistake that really doesn't suit well with Mercedes. However, we all know the kid is super talented and has a great future in F1 but he needs to be tempered from now on whenever he has the chance to driver for Mercedes because he can't make mistakes like this next season.

Russell is back in the drivers seat for this Free practice 3 session.
But Mercedes should of known what they were getting with Antonelli as he is a firerocket and hard to contain his enthusiasm to get on the track to make a bold impression to his bosses.
With practice and more tracks under his belt other than F2 he should do just fine.

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Yea...I feel bad for Andreea Kimi but he shouldn't have forced that car in Fp1 like it's qualifying round and he didn't have to prove he is a fast driver or anything related to speed. His main concern should have been to have a clean driving session and listen to what his team is asking from him while he is doing FP1 but instead he made a huge rookie mistake that really doesn't suit well with Mercedes. However, we all know the kid is super talented and has a great future in F1 but he needs to be tempered from now on whenever he has the chance to driver for Mercedes because he can't make mistakes like this next season.

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Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on August 29, 2024, 12:45:12 PM

I forget this thread because of the one from the pool.

But i cant believe some things im hearing about people defending Sargeant.... man the only thing he has to at least do is..... no crash/destroy your car, and he did the opposite he made all he can to destroy the car in every race.

About Colapinto im super happy for him and for our country but im realistic and i dont know how good he can do not being adapted to the car and the category. The money behind is very big, two HUGE companies from argentina are behind him, if he do a miracle with this car i can assure you he is gonna have a seat for the next year. (And yes i know the contracts and seats are already filled).

That one for the F1 forum pool is run by CLS63 and I have cross promoted his thread on here in the past so you can go to either or. It makes no difference, to me anyways. As that one mostly talks about free bet distribution and who received the yellow caps for the pool. While here it is a year round discussion about the drivers & teams on the off-season too.
All depends on your mood, if you want to see talk about F1 and not included in that pool then your most welcome to join our discussion on the topic here.

Getting back to the discussion during this race week:
Hamilton has been looking quite strong during the free practice runs and sets the pace this weekend thus far.
But as we all know now Kimi has been confirmed as his replaced for next season:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-kimi-antonelli-confirmed-as-lewis-hamiltons-replacement-with.2TeU01Qm9BjQUlBjl9jBTm

Here is the announcement from Mercedes that Kimi Antonelli will be driving for them with George Russell:
https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/news/george-x-kimi-2025-driver-line-up-announced

Antonelli crashes on debut during FP1 and at first the caster who I was listening to thought it was Colapinto who had crashed for his first time on the F1 circuit.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cy0n321dg82o

FP3 will be starting in about 45 minutes then the qualification race a couple of hours later.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/italian-grand-prix-2024-practice-3/italian-grand-prix-2024-practice-3-66d1f06bcf1cd000011eb27a

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Quote from: stompix on August 29, 2024, 04:26:44 AM

He's doing worse than Bottas and he hasn't had an offer from a better team, he's not on the list for any team and teams pick divers from the other league, so I thought it would be Sauber who would drop both drivers to try to have a fresh start if their partnership with Audi goes through. And while Bottas had the experience, Zhou has literally nothing right now not even the sponsorship Perez has and that guy ain't there for long too.

With Hulkenberg confirmed to come for the next season, I thought it would replace Zhou for sure, now if the one getting booted is Bottas it would be a surprise for me.

My point is that Zhou is mediacore driver - not great, not terrible, while Sargeant is bellow F1 level. He haven't showed phenomenal results, but at least he isn't breaking car.
Back to the upcoming Italian GP - seems that we will have extremely high temperatures during whole weekend, complete opposite from what we had in Zandvoort. Interesting what pit stop strategy we can expect.

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I forget this thread because of the one from the pool.

But i cant believe some things im hearing about people defending Sargeant.... man the only thing he has to at least do is..... no crash/destroy your car, and he did the opposite he made all he can to detroy the car in every race.

About Colapinto im super happy for him and for our country but im realistic and i dont know how good he can do not being adapted to the car and the category. The money behind is very big, two HUGE companies from argentina are behind him, if he do a miracle with this car i can assure you he is gonna have a seat for the next year. (And yes i know the contracts and seats are already filled).

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We are going to Monza this week. Here is some stats about the track.

_{Source: https://x.com/pirellisport/status/1828476230041264277}

There is a new asphalt on the track so the grip is strong. I think this is one of the iconic tracks in Formula 1. It is home GP for Ferrari at the same time.

There are some huge upgrades coming to Ferrari for Monza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJANJWKdMcY

I wonder how much these upgrades will affect Ferrari... I expect a lot better qualifying performances this time. They must be in the pole position fight. For the race, maybe another podium? Grin

There are a new trophy and a new podium cap for Monza GP as well.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on August 28, 2024, 03:15:40 PM

Quote from: stompix on August 27, 2024, 09:25:49 PM

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Zhou - not sure why you mentioned him, he haven't done anything to grt sacked. You simply can't achieve anything with shitty car.

He's doing worse than Bottas and he hasn't had an offer from a better team, he's not on the list for any team and teams pick divers from the other league, so I thought it would be Sauber who would drop both drivers to try to have a fresh start if their partnership with Audi goes through. And while Bottas had the experience, Zhou has literally nothing right now not even the sponsorship Perez has and that guy ain't there for long too.

With Hulkenberg confirmed to come for the next season, I thought it would replace Zhou for sure, now if the one getting booted is Bottas it would be a surprise for me.

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Quote from: stompix on August 27, 2024, 09:25:49 PM

Quote from: rdbase on August 27, 2024, 05:57:14 PM

Looks like the jump out of a burning car which did look like a scene out of a movie done by a stunt driver cost him his job at Williams just ahead of the Italian GP.
Logan Sargeant has been replaced with 21 year old F2 & Academy driver Franco Colapinto.

More like he got the early retirement, his career at Williams was going to end anyhow at the end of the year, this just rushed things, I don't know how to feel about this, yes it's sad to see someone retire this way since things happening like this are always ending with the driver completely ending his f1 career, he didn't have the car he would need to make the headlines but still, 1 point in two seasons is petty bad. I always thought it's a competition between him and Zhou on who gets booted first.

Let's see how Seinz will do next year on Williams but I have a feeling he won't make a difference and have the same fate, Williams for one or two years then retiring.

Probably nobody isn't surprised about these news. It's not just that he scored only 2 points in his career. He lost all qualifying sessions against Albon and sometimes it looked that he is driving F2 car. No hate, but this guy haven't showed anything to save his seat in F1.
Risky move to replace with Colapinto who having just his debut season in F2. But probably it's that moment that doing such move is better than not doing anything.
Zhou - not sure why you mentioned him, he haven't done anything to grt sacked. You simply can't achieve anything with shitty car.

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Quite interesting that they replaced him so late into the season. Doesn't mean that he didn't deserve it, Logan hasn't been good for a long time and it was clear that they needed a change, but you don't do that on the last 9 races of the season, you wait until the new season to make that change.

Maybe they just wanted this new kid to end up getting used to the car this season, like they gave up on their second car for the season, they know they are not getting anything anyway and they are a terrible team right now, so why not let the kid take it for a test drive for 9 times before he is ready for the next season? Makes sense in the way that it would help them get him better next season, but they should hope that he doesn't crash and cause more costly mistakes.

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Williams was really in a hurry to replace Sargeant with Colapinto. I don't know about this new driver much. I haven't watched him I mean, I only know his statistics so far. He collected 96 points at MP Motorsport and beat his teammate Hauger in F2.

It must have been a long while since we last saw an Argentinean driver in F1 as well. I'm wondering what this 21-year-old driver will do... Sargeant has caused huge costs because of many accidents which must be the reason why Williams couldn't be patient until the end of the season.

Anyway, we are in a new race week. Norris is already favoured the qualifying of course. By the way I think it's worth trying one's luck with Norris to become the champion. Verstappen is struggling more in time so why not? Grin

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Williams.
Ain't Kraken one of their sponsors?

https://blog.kraken.com/news/kraken-williams-racing-a-formula-for-the-future-built-on-performance-excellence
Strange, it's the back of the car that bursts into flames where the big name of Kraken is while SEC is also flaming Kraken just recently. Grin

Well, I can say he ended his career with a bang! 9 races left. I don't know if he deserves such a thing to happen but it may be a strike three for James Vowles which is why he'd rather take the risk for a new racer.
Colapinto. This is actually a high-risk change but the team is saying that it's worth taking him than Sargeant. That's like a stab on the back but that's how F1 is.

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Quote from: rdbase on August 27, 2024, 05:57:14 PM

Looks like the jump out of a burning car which did look like a scene out of a movie done by a stunt driver cost him his job at Williams just ahead of the Italian GP.
Logan Sargeant has been replaced with 21 year old F2 & Academy driver Franco Colapinto.

More like he got the early retirement, his career at Williams was going to end anyhow at the end of the year, this just rushed things, I don't know how to feel about this, yes it's sad to see someone retire this way since things happening like this are always ending with the driver completely ending his f1 career, he didn't have the car he would need to make the headlines but still, 1 point in two seasons is petty bad. I always thought it's a competition between him and Zhou on who gets booted first.

Let's see how Seinz will do next year on Williams but I have a feeling he won't make a difference and have the same fate, Williams for one or two years then retiring.

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Quote from: stompix on August 24, 2024, 02:58:32 PM

Quote from: rdbase on August 24, 2024, 05:09:11 AM

Logan Sargeant might not be ready for qualifying with his car being set on fire during the practice session just minutes ago:

For more dramatic effect:

Since I mentioned sponsorships earlier, I can already picture the faces of some of the guys in marketing once those pictures hit the news, I think everyone is praying in their minds, "Please don't make it a hit with memes!"

Looks like the jump out of a burning car which did look like a scene out of a movie done by a stunt driver cost him his job at Williams just ahead of the Italian GP.
Logan Sargeant has been replaced with 21 year old F2 & Academy driver Franco Colapinto.
News from the official F1 website mentioned around 7 hours ago:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-f2-racer-colapinto-replaces-sargeant-at-williams-for-rest-of-2024.2CghqWgB0vxJoZK8wWoMPj

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While I do agree that Mclaren made a great car, look at who came in third, not Piastri is the clue that we are looking for. While it is great that Lando managed to get the win, it is not clear if Mclaren has enough to beat Max, because we know that Red Bull is slower than Mclaren these days, but we are not sure by how much, we also know Max is a wonderful driver, probably the best on the track right now, so the gap must be smaller.

I think with any given race, one bad pit stop, one bad tire decision, one rain, everything changes completely. It doesn't even have to be an accident, we are just looking at something smaller, even a few seconds slower pit stop, something jammed for a split second, could decide the drivers completely.

So all in all, I still think that Max has a very high chance, he has the advantage of making a mistake and still recover, Lando can't make a single mistake, he has to keep winning and we all know he can't be that dominant right now, the car is good but not that good.

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Oh, glad I didn't put a dime on the exchange, but I never imagined Max would be getting even higher so quickly, only 24 hours and still sliding with basically no news or anything, it's a clear sign Lando is getting backed and money is flowing, so they are adjusting the odds.

Quote from: stompix on August 25, 2024, 11:52:49 PM

Never imagined that this year I would do the same math for how many races of counting how many points Max needs to defend but with a totally different scenario.

9 races to go, and 70 points to defend.

In theory, a continuous 1 2 placing is barely not enough, but no way Lando can get 9 victories, and no way Max would get spot 2 9 times in a row, so one flopping once might increase the advantage by double that or diminishing it too.
Still, Max lost only 11 points in the last 4 races, if things go like this the championship is secure.

For the constructor, only 30 points advantage.
Almost twice as much that lost in the last races, so probably more of a secure bet on McLaren here than on Max, and just look at the odds:

I think that Italy will be a decisive point, either a morale boost for the chasing pack or sealing the deal.

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Next race is at the Autodromo Nazionale Monza track for the Italian Grand Prix.

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^^
This was discussed right before the race actually by the announcers about Red Bull losing the constructors for the season.
The gap between Max Verstappen and Lando Norris is still wide with just a few more races to go that the Dutchman might still be able to win that but margin between Red Bull and McLaren is razor sharp.
They were 42 points away from RB but now are 30 points so they might just end up winning the season with both drivers performing and Perez not.
https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/news/mclaren-ceo-fires-upgrade-warning-to-red-bull-after-dominant-dutch-gp-victory-01j655c5jqhq

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Didn't watch the race, I have it on recording anyhow but seeing the results and the time, I wonder if I will just skip through it.

I placed just one bet and it wasn't about the Dutch race, and the one mentioned about the final standings on teams, I'm as sure as one can be when it comes to gambling that RB is going to lose. Bookies have also reacted sharply to that, not even 24 hours and the odds for the next one are telling:

I'll be watching the liquidity and head to some exchanges to see how much can I play around with, backing all Max and hoping for a fast qualifying from him might be worth more than taking Lando on a direct bet.
The thing is I'm not enjoying these as much as I did before, too much effort and that need for timing ...

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The race is over already... It is going to be a really easy win for Norris unless he makes an individual mistake. A gap like 13 seconds is insane man. Verstappen is really very slow. Nothing changed after qualifying.

Piastri is pushing for podium and he is very close to Leclerc. Probably he will manage to finish there.

But I want Leclerc to finish on podium to tell the truth. Ferrari should be able to achieve something already!

I wish Hamilton didn't mess up in qualifying. He could have really been competitive for podium. He is really fast now. Maybe at least he might be able to keep fastest lap on himself.

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