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Quote from: Boristhecat on April 11, 2022, 02:49:02 PM

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I wonder why Verstappen is quoted so much higher than Sainz? Just because he's the reigning champion? It seems doubtful to me.

Because the odds of winning are also influenced by the number of bets on one winner, for example.

If tomorrow I'm going to bet 100 trillion $ to Verstappen, his odds will decrease to 1.01 otherwise the bookmakers is not able to pay the other players.

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It turns out that those who make bets against the "crowd" will be in the black, since the amount of money wagered does not reflect the real state of affairs, but only shows the public mood.

Quote from: delfastTions on April 20, 2022, 03:33:34 AM

Before the races in Italy, Leclerc has a pretty strong lead over the rest of the group. About 30 points. I’m even surprised how he managed to beat others so well, including the heroes of the 2021 season. I wonder what he will demonstrate on April 24 and how the points leaderboard will change?

What are your predictions?

At the moment, his car dominates the rest of the competition, perhaps his only achievement is that he was able to overtake his teammate. Formula 1 is more a competition of cars than drivers, at the moment Ferrari dominates and this can explain such results.

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 20, 2022, 03:33:34 AM

Before the races in Italy, Leclerc has a pretty strong lead over the rest of the group. About 30 points. I’m even surprised how he managed to beat others so well, including the heroes of the 2021 season. I wonder what he will demonstrate on April 24 and how the points leaderboard will change?

What are your predictions?

Made my selections early since the sprint race determines quite alot when it comes to pole position.
And with the renewed format of who gets these points are crucial to the outcome of the grid positions.

I went with home country favorites in ferrari which seem to be on a winning streak for their last few tracks.
I still have faith in Verstappen to pull out all the stops and show up on the podium.
But put Leclerc above everybody else in terms of pole and fastest lap.

We'll see how my logic plays out over the next few days of racing.

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Before the races in Italy, Leclerc has a pretty strong lead over the rest of the group. About 30 points. I’m even surprised how he managed to beat others so well, including the heroes of the 2021 season. I wonder what he will demonstrate on April 24 and how the points leaderboard will change?

What are your predictions?

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It was a long week to wait for the race in Italy going on this weekend and what do you know, we have a sprint race in Emilia Romagna!

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I heard some rumours that Mercedes dont bring any updates to Imola and only expecting to the layout of the circuit help them.

This can be true or maybe not, but yes this circuit can be better for the Mercedes of this year wiith bad high speed in straights.

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 14, 2022, 05:23:50 AM

Quote from: rdbase on April 13, 2022, 08:42:28 AM

Next weekend we will have the F1 in Italy and can't wait for that one to see which of the top three we will see take the podium on the beautiful Italia Emilia Romagna track.

In Italy, we should expect good results from Ferrari. This is their homeland and many fans. I think they will continue their winning streak and others should catch up with them.
By the way, the statistics of F1 races for many years states that the winner of the previous stages wins on average ~ 0.3 seconds per lap. Just because of the fact that his victories force and stimulate him to drive the car more confidently and a little faster.

Agreed as Ferrari will have home track advantage and the atmosphere there along with their fans will be in their favor.
But I am pretty certain Max and Lewis will have their places in the top 5 this coming up weekend in Italy.
Same with George Russell. I can see him in the top 10 as his driving has improved since his time at Williams.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on April 11, 2022, 02:49:02 PM

Russell, George 19.00

I wonder why Verstappen is quoted so much higher than Sainz? Just because he's the reigning champion? It seems doubtful to me.

Because the odds of winning are also influenced by the number of bets on one winner, for example.

If tomorrow I'm going to bet 100 trillion $ to Verstappen, his odds will decrease to 1.01 otherwise the bookmakers is not able to pay the other players.

(short words, random numbers)

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Quote from: rdbase on April 13, 2022, 08:42:28 AM

Next weekend we will have the F1 in Italy and can't wait for that one to see which of the top three we will see take the podium on the beautiful Italia Emilia Romagna track.

In Italy, we should expect good results from Ferrari. This is their homeland and many fans. I think they will continue their winning streak and others should catch up with them.
By the way, the statistics of F1 races for many years states that the winner of the previous stages wins on average ~ 0.3 seconds per lap. Just because of the fact that his victories force and stimulate him to drive the car more confidently and a little faster.

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Quote from: rdbase on April 11, 2022, 05:33:34 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on April 11, 2022, 02:49:02 PM

Quotes of Grand Prix Emilia Romagna Race - Winner:

Leclerc, Charles 2.20

Verstappen, Max 2.65

Sainz Jr., Carlos 8.85

Perez, Sergio 12.70

Hamilton, Lewis 15.50

Russell, George 19.00

I wonder why Verstappen is quoted so much higher than Sainz? Just because he's the reigning champion? It seems doubtful to me.
And I would also like to see bookmakers' quotes for the result of the whole season, but I looked at several bookmakers and so far no one offers such an option. Maybe someone has seen something like this?

I see the same odds for Max and they are quite low for not even finishing on the podium.
But it is still early in the week so expect them to change closer to the race and most certainly after P1-P3.
Here they are for those who are interesting to keep an eye on them during the week:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-6252a7d78b29f8417b45f6bd

It is clear that the chances will change a lot if the outsiders according to the results of free practice/qualification will be ahead, but I do not understand the current quotes. Is Sainz's car really that much worse than Leclerc's? Or is it implied that he is identified as number two so his chances are initially worse due to team strategy? But then why are Verstappen's chances so high?

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Next weekend we will have the F1 in Italy and can't wait for that one to see which of the top three we will see take the podium on the beautiful Italia Emilia Romagna track.

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Somewhere I came across a comment that there will be no major updates for W13, at least not in the near future.
Russell said there was nothing major in development. It will take time to do something. But everyone understands that the rivals will not sit still - Ferrari and Red Bull will also progress.
Russell also noted that his car has great potential that needs to be revealed. But it won't happen instantly.

Meanwhile, it is Russell who, after three races, takes second place in the championship.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on April 11, 2022, 02:49:02 PM

Quotes of Grand Prix Emilia Romagna Race - Winner:

Leclerc, Charles 2.20

Verstappen, Max 2.65

Sainz Jr., Carlos 8.85

Perez, Sergio 12.70

Hamilton, Lewis 15.50

Russell, George 19.00

I wonder why Verstappen is quoted so much higher than Sainz? Just because he's the reigning champion? It seems doubtful to me.
And I would also like to see bookmakers' quotes for the result of the whole season, but I looked at several bookmakers and so far no one offers such an option. Maybe someone has seen something like this?

I see the same odds for Max and they are quite low for not even finishing on the podium.
But it is still early in the week so expect them to change closer to the race and most certainly after P1-P3.
Here they are for those who are interesting to keep an eye on them during the week:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-6252a7d78b29f8417b45f6bd

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It all seems to be going very smoothly for the Ferrari, but we shouldn't take it too easy. Since Mercedes now has the most points in total from the podiums, I heard a commentator say and Sainz had problems with the steering wheel, which could have happened to Leclerc as he basically has the same car. It's still a long way off, there are 23 circuits this season so nothing has actually been decided yet. But it's a very good start for Ferrari and bad for Red Bull. They are now paying the price for that hassle with Honda.

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Clearly strange, Sainz never won a GP and this its okey but 8.85 having the best car?.
Also i know he is the second driver for Ferrari but, what if leclerc make a DNF, he can be for sure the winner of the race.

Lets see after the first FP the odds.

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Quotes of Grand Prix Emilia Romagna Race - Winner:

Leclerc, Charles 2.20

Verstappen, Max 2.65

Sainz Jr., Carlos 8.85

Perez, Sergio 12.70

Hamilton, Lewis 15.50

Russell, George 19.00

I wonder why Verstappen is quoted so much higher than Sainz? Just because he's the reigning champion? It seems doubtful to me.
And I would also like to see bookmakers' quotes for the result of the whole season, but I looked at several bookmakers and so far no one offers such an option. Maybe someone has seen something like this?

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Quote from: boltz on April 11, 2022, 08:29:47 AM

I have my theory about RedBull engine and I think its overclocked more than it can take. Sure , it will bring you more power , speed but it will lose stability , resistance and durability and if we look at Max last DNF , we can clearly see that the problem is from engine. No matter how hard Horner tries to hide the issues who they think its the fuel or a part from engine that provokes this problems.

We can all agree it cannot be fuel right ? even the fuel chamber cannot produce such damage to engine in 3 races. It's clearly that RedBull engine is overclocked because they simply couldn't build a strong engine like last year because as far as I remember , Redbull went all in last year with tokens, money and testing.

Regarding Mercedes...I doubt they will recover this year or in the next years. I think their era is gone and from now on , we should expect Ferrari to dominate 3-4 years in F1.

I think exactly the same.
For me Red Bull is full overclocked his engine , and i say more, Verstappen its a danger driver in this thing, i belive he go so much full power and destroy himself the car.

I really hate the Red Bull politic of have only one driver for so many years, Max car its build for his only tipe of drive and the second driver GG.

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I have my theory about RedBull engine and I think its overclocked more than it can take. Sure , it will bring you more power , speed but it will lose stability , resistance and durability and if we look at Max last DNF , we can clearly see that the problem is from engine. No matter how hard Horner tries to hide the issues who they think its the fuel or a part from engine that provokes this problems.

We can all agree it cannot be fuel right ? even the fuel chamber cannot produce such damage to engine in 3 races. It's clearly that RedBull engine is overclocked because they simply couldn't build a strong engine like last year because as far as I remember , Redbull went all in last year with tokens, money and testing.

Regarding Mercedes...I doubt they will recover this year or in the next years. I think their era is gone and from now on , we should expect Ferrari to dominate 3-4 years in F1.

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Quote from: boltz on April 10, 2022, 09:11:16 AM

Happy to see RedBull DNF again but not happy for Max ...but I guess karma is karma no matter what.

I'm no longer sure it's accident/bad karma or is it just plain stupid i.e. pushing the car more than he should (Charles was smart and asked the engineers if the car can handle a push for a new best time of the track).
With this kind of behavior RedBull is getting farther and farther from a pretty easy place 2 and chances for place 1, leaving Ferrari get away easy on 1st and allowing Mercedes (and possibly McLaren and Alpine too!) fight for place #2.

I was happy for Checo, I was happy to see McLaren getting closer to where they should be, I was happy for Alex Albon's point.
Of course, Sainz and Alonso were unlucky - I was expecting to see both in top5.
And Mr Stroll should start opening his eyes: imho something goes really wrong at Aston Martin.

And I will also end with Max. One good thing I've noticed that at least the fight with Charles is nice and clean, not the ugly crap we've seen last year.
So although I no longer care whether Max wins or not, or even ends the race or not, he still seems to be the only one with chances to challenge Ferrari. And I want to see that, I want it for the show.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on April 10, 2022, 02:26:35 PM

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Good point abount making gap while Mercedes and Red Bull have problems and have to fight with their own demons. I don't believe that it's going to last for whole season and sooner or later they will fix their issues.

Exactly! While there is still time to use to increase the lead Ferrari from these two strongest teams. They are still in confusion, they have not gathered, they have not worked out their mistakes to the end. But it will happen for sure and I think even quite soon.
So Ferrari should try to increase the lead of the race in the next few races.

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Verstappen can now forget to extend his world title, he will not save that anymore. Leclerc was truly phenomenal this weekend. Actually all 3 races so far. Won 2x and 1x 2nd, Verstappen won 1x and retired 2 times. The problems with the car seem to be bigger than initially expected. I can conclude more than one thing and that is that Ferrari has things well done. It will be fun this season, because Leclerc will simply become world champion with the new rules.

Depends on the tracks at the moment.

Ferrari is just impressive on tracks where the traction is the key.
RedBull is faster where high speed is needed.

I repeat, AT THE moment.

These cars are born yesterday so the team with the best improvement during the season will be the champion.

Good thing you mention this great point.
It does depend on the track as with this weekend the drivers have always had issues with turn 11 but during practice and qualifying Leclerc showed he defeated it everytime.
So this probably solidified him the win in Melbourne.

With Vegas and Miami who knows as these are fairly new tracks to all drivers:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-f1-miami-grand-prix.6JTdOPphcU58I8TDLmssx.html

With Vegas being the newest in the F1 and will be unveiled next year.

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