Topic: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September - page 41. (Read 69478 times)

Sure, dozens of quotes. Here's the latest:

http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/

When they posted it, it may not have been an intentional lie (I suspect it was, but I can't prove that). But now that we're into the 2nd week of September they leave it there hoping to deceive customers into thinking they're making better progress than they are. So now it's simply a lie.

I can attest that through his entire experience and speaking to many different people involved in the matter, he has actually gotten over it.

I am pretty sure there was a sour taste left behind, but this Xian is no longer the cheetah he once was. He has moved on to greener pastures with rabbits/BitCoins that are easier to catch. (Reliable companies, promises kept, technology that actually works as it should, etc)

Two Weeks^TM?

 Correction. I *WAS* butt-hurt at the time. Who wouldn't be after waiting for a product to ship for over 10 months after one-broken-promise after another, and the hostility of their COO towards this community ? I'm only human.

 You shit on any community or hobby I have an affinity towards, and I'm going to defend it.

 Dealing with lawyers, attorney generals, postmasters, probation officers, and other consumer protection agencies gave me all the closure I needed to move on with my life and put my horrible consumer experience with Butterfly Labs into my rear-view mirror.

 A theoretical $35k loss is academic. As the old gambers adage goes "Don't gamble it if you can't afford to lose it."

 Bitfury and Buzzdave have been a pleasure to deal with.



 

@ bcp19

Scenario,

You just blew your two front tires on the road. Lucky for you, there a tire station at the end of the road called ADL.

You hobble in with two front tires burst out. You walk up to the repair shop and tell them you need to replace two tires. The mechanic tells you that it will be 200 USD. You pay the man.

You wait patiently until the man gets around to your vehicle. He informs you after looking at it, that you indeed have two bad tires and they will need to be fully replaced. He informs you after the fact of making payment that no refunds will be given out after work has started. He pulls both rims off your vehicle and informs you that you'll need to wait.

This ordeal started at around 9am on a thursday morning. It is now 5pm. Tell me how do you feel right now?

You keep pacing back and forth and want to talk to the mechanic, the woman at the front desk fields all your questions but doesn't allow you to talk to the mechanic directly. She takes an hour between each response.

Question:

How do you feel about this?

You cannot leave the shop because you are missing two front rims, there is a delay and the work isn't being performed in a reasonable period of time.

Question:

How long is the appropriate time to wait when you aren't given an option to do anything about it?

No, you're not over it.  Your 40 point *I* the other day proved that along with your 35K loss rant.  You're still pissed cause you poked the bear and it ignored you, yet you poked it 40 more times while it ignored you, then you hit the bear over the head and got your ass handed to you.  I spent the weekend reading through everything you wrote on this forum up until you got your refund.  You deserved exactly what you got, and you're butthurt over it.

 Spoken like a true protege of Jody, Josh and Sonny.

 Not sure what more you want me to say. I'm over it and have moved on. The fact that you're raising it again is making you look immature and petty.

 Hey, at least I got a refund, right ? Others are wishing they could say the same thing.

You have proof it was outright lying and not a relay of information passed to them from their suppliers?  If so, please contact the lawyers of all the sewers wanting to damage BFL, otherwise, join the clueless rant club.  Thanks for playing.

What do you call lying every step of the way?

I'm sorry, I'm still laughing over your comment the other day about some kind of $35k loss.  Want to rant that one by me again?

According to all of you they are a long con, out to fleece us all and run with the money.  The best moment to have done that was back in April.  Every day since you and the other detractors have called them a scam, yet they ship product.  You hound anyone from there that posts here like a rabid packs of dogs, yet they still ship product.  You advertise PSA's and links to the FTC, KS AG, MO AG, etc... yet they still ship product.

Everyday they ship product is less money they could have run with.  Every day they ship product is one more day your long con fails.  Everyday they ship product is another day they thumb their noses at you for not believing they could.

I'd call that fortitude.

Bick on the other hand, I can only give a 3 in the fortitude department.  Avalon prob a 4.  AM looks to be an 8.  Bitfury is too new.

 Oh, trust me. We've been having a field day ever since you showed up on this scene as a tireless defender of Butterfly Labs.

 It's all we can do but bounce back and forth between pointing-and-laughing at you, to shaking our heads in disbelief at your naivety from being exposed to radioactive doses of Butterfly Labs flavored Koolaid.

How well would you score BFL on:

Honesty (1/10) 1

Depends on how you look at it. Frankly, if you believe their story, then they are very honest. If you don't, then they are lying scumbags (put nicely).

Refunds (1/10) 1

Definitely 1, they refuse request for refunds even when people are legally entitled to one. Case closed on that.

Keeping customer informed (1/10) unk

I don't really know what to say, it depends on whether you believe their statements. Frankly, I don't.  They used to give people information about what was going on. Now, not anymore and they seem pretty proud that they aren't really giving anyone any heads up on what is happening with their orders.

So bluntly put, they are keeping everyone in the dark. I can go and ask anyone about what is happening at BFL and no one would really know.

General Performance (1/10) 1

I would put in a 3 but they are just way too far behind. They are barely catching up...but what score would you give someone if they were a year behind the delivery schedule and haven't shown any legitimate plan to catch up very quickly. Even the Jally line which was doing reasonably good has gone caput for the last week.


Accountability (1/10) 0

You can't hold anyone responsible at BFL for what has transpired. No one has even offered to take the blame and no apology ever seems to have crossed their mind. (not that I can recall)

So I might break the scale when it comes to accountability. There is no one to point the finger to nor anyone to bow their head in shame...

Fortitude? Adversity? You have got to be kidding. Getting caught in lies is not Fortitude.

Honesty (1/10) 6

Refunds (1/10) unk, never asked for one.  Using other's rants on here is simply speculation, I require proof

Keeping customer informed (1/10) 4

General Performance (1/10) 6

Accountability (1/10) 5

You forgot a few:

Value   6

Fortitude in the face of adversity   10

Would I purchase from the the future  7

Have your field day now, as you have no clue what those number represent to me, you only have your opinion.

 To be fair, this is not a fair survey.

 You have not included 0 as a valid option.

@ bcp19

How great is BFL right now?

1 to 10 (10 being perfect)

How well would you score BFL on:

Honesty (1/10)

Refunds (1/10)

Keeping customer informed (1/10)

General Performance (1/10)

Accountability (1/10)

Just the numbers please.

If pointing out misconceptions and intentionally distorted facts is a waste of time, than I am guilty of waste.  But I feel those that use those misconceptions to breed other misconceptions and intentionally distorted facts are the true time wasters.  They create a carefully crafted web of lies using tiny kernals of truth to bolster their distortions and the final product causes anyone who truly cares to know the truth to have to follow a convoluted pathway to find it.  The sad part is when you all become Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and repeat things often quoting each other so much it begins to look like fact even though the initial source is sketchy at best.  The "$200 million dollar a day trip made by the President" as reported by Limbaugh is the perfect example.  http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/india-on-200-million-a-day-no/?_r=0  An indian news report started it, the Drudge Report picked it up and ran with it, Rush Limbaugh reported it, Michelle Bachan parroted it, Glenn Beck echoed it and somehow added 10 percent of the US Navy into the trip.  A simple google search would reveal that these trips normally cost ~3.6 million a day, but when you have Rush and Glenn reporting it, who needs google?

Then, we must infer that Jody possibly lost her password for the blog account she uses. LOL.

She is delinquent on making updates? hehe

 But... but...