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It would be presumptuous if we settled all disputes ourselves. It's therefore our policy to agree to independent, trustworthy arbitrators in case of any dispute between us and our customers.    @tryx3  All our dice games are provably fair.  If you find a trustworthy party (we agree on) that is willing to "take your case" and which comes to the conclusion that our dice game is indeed "rigged" we will not only pay all arbitration costs but an additional 10 BTC to you. 




seriously great answer!   good to know!
 means youre group setting up good systems and  serious in what you're doing, keep working on the horse book too.  cant usually lock in a wager you want, and customers cant lay or set their own offers to lower vig like btfair or matchbook.  thats a serious flaw right now  (I know you dont think you can find late scratch times?  those are easy to find at betfair if you need them the 1 in 100 there is a late scratch).

for football its not easy to use your set up.  or for hoops.  too many choices on each game,
its hard to find the exact game also, you seriously need to use official rotation order for football and hoops, and each game separately listed  once!  just list the main line, then all games will fit in one page maybe two , the 13 pages of multiple lines for each game is hard to navigate and slow to find a team you desire (no search function).  have each game open up to all the options of alternative lines if that game is clicked!  (just an idea to help your volume). 


Thats a good suggestion. Making the odds auto update itself will be great too!
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It would be presumptuous if we settled all disputes ourselves. It's therefore our policy to agree to independent, trustworthy arbitrators in case of any dispute between us and our customers.    @tryx3  All our dice games are provably fair.  If you find a trustworthy party (we agree on) that is willing to "take your case" and which comes to the conclusion that our dice game is indeed "rigged" we will not only pay all arbitration costs but an additional 10 BTC to you. 




seriously great answer!   good to know!
 means youre group setting up good systems and  serious in what you're doing, keep working on the horse book too.  cant usually lock in a wager you want, and customers cant lay or set their own offers to lower vig like btfair or matchbook.  thats a serious flaw right now  (I know you dont think you can find late scratch times?  those are easy to find at betfair if you need them the 1 in 100 there is a late scratch).

for football its not easy to use your set up.  or for hoops.  too many choices on each game,
its hard to find the exact game also, you seriously need to use official rotation order for football and hoops, and each game separately listed  once!  just list the main line, then all games will fit in one page maybe two , the 13 pages of multiple lines for each game is hard to navigate and slow to find a team you desire (no search function).  have each game open up to all the options of alternative lines if that game is clicked!  (just an idea to help your volume). 
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It would be presumptuous if we settled all disputes ourselves. It's therefore our policy to agree to independent, trustworthy arbitrators in case of any dispute between us and our customers.    @tryx3  All our dice games are provably fair.  If you find a trustworthy party (we agree on) that is willing to "take your case" and which comes to the conclusion that our dice game is indeed "rigged" we will not only pay all arbitration costs but an additional 10 BTC to you. 



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 the secret string for the market you requested is

0.030592084410876SlCBeqfGWsbfmEfRZKUhgkmf%iedLJfDVifSBpfDXENBWfIdMMkRWkPQSDi%rJDpfdiKfZIMcXhoAfadLHDDWK$XnkoZfaXSndSo

this is an old market, so the old hashing algorithm applies.



 

Fairplay why are you not providing random games for your players, that will kill your sportsbook beta book

let me get this straight. this is a fair and honest game right?  To play around and try your site I do these  four and only these four fun numbers wagers...

not for major bitcoins or anything but these have been made

Dice Game EB7360 - Random Numb...   -100.3   Yes   graded a loss   OK 1 in 2  50/50
Dice Game 9CF736 - Random Numb...   -100.3   Yes  graded a loss   OK  1 in 2  now overall 1 in 4  25/75
Dice Game B51C31 - Random Numb...   -100.3   Yes  graded a loss  OK??   1 in 2  now a random  1 in 8??  looks fishy   12.5%
Dice Game E18D9F - Random Numb...   -909.1   Yes  graded a loss    will win this 9 out of 10 , and it loses?  so overall 1 in 80?Huh  

1 in 80???

YEA right,  is this fair and working perfectly?  I see you changed how to get a fair number just today from your old system.  did you think possible this to be unfair and was possible no accurate?    

what do I need to do for a full refund on these 4 small wagers.  

1 out of 80 doing only these 4, all graded a loss, no number actually given on the web site,  not showing step by step how each if these ar random, now changing your grading method?  this is  not correct.





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@tryx3
 the secret string for the market you requested is

0.030592084410876SlCBeqfGWsbfmEfRZKUhgkmf%iedLJfDVifSBpfDXENBWfIdMMkRWkPQSDi%rJDpfdiKfZIMcXhoAfadLHDDWK$XnkoZfaXSndSo

this is an old market, so the old hashing algorithm applies.


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We replaced md5   and only do one round of hashing from now on. So for all future markets it will take only a few seconds if you want to verify it manually with the given online tools.

@darkstar  it was md5,  sha1, md5, sha1,.... before   while md5 was resulting in the format DF-34-....

@tryx3  the random number was 0.467095633720558 and therefor you lost.



Dice Game E18D9F
You bet on the value of a random number between 0 and 1. The market is settled immediately after one bet is matched. The hash value is E18D9FC7B98735D6053636ACC4A318BB21B3F042The random number generator is probably fair and run by Fairlay. After settlement you may ask in the forum for the proof.


good
Dice Game E18D9F - Random Number > 0.1?

this wager was for a number 0.1 or larger. so please pay the money, u show above its 0.46709  perfect.
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We replaced md5   and only do one round of hashing from now on. So for all future markets it will take only a few seconds if you want to verify it manually with the given online tools.

@darkstar  it was md5,  sha1, md5, sha1,.... before   while md5 was resulting in the format DF-34-....

@tryx3  the random number was 0.467095633720558 and therefor you lost.
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interesting but I have no clue what that means?

step by step what does that mean?  5 rounds of hashing with MD5?   and then with SHA1  how do you do that?  where do you do that?  why would you not list the wining or losing random  number in large FONT each time when the wager is graded so the customer knows the result?   
You can use MD5 hash generators and SHA1 hash generators.

The hash given by Fairlay is
Code:
0.467095633720558AgtEfgbOfEfNDSIfemtmirpOIffVaWftPiEWfgSdJFGWkj%pddlsoUWMfQWWnbfC$qZkdsDCCHWrdOkXK%dWpEJfEfeWflDleflU

After 5 rounds of MD5, it becomes
Code:
ff7d4bed5a8da9eb67b5f589009f1afe
Code:
c24adcd8c1584f4e3466b71f468ce8d6
Code:
309de87ef615c67d112de38cef2c1802
Code:
bef187f66a643ad77af5b3bc10caaa66
Code:
f2a8cdf9e26608cd65ccbe34b58e0718

Take the last one, hash it 5 times with MD5 and you should get the hash posted on the bet.

Code:
5B1896F3465B2D733C4CFBBEF158DB14692CABBB
Code:
520A612F606E1AE0E2B38EDC37F5525D55602039
Code:
1F0D57A4A417D6BB96C8CFD02C805FA9AF12EE80
Code:
B08F30FDF8DA5FBC7597DC5199A2541A5025D92D
Code:
A899E5562883D239F4BF706C85F9DEF5F2D2548D

I think that is how it should be done, or I might have misread something. Fairlay should post how to verify it on their website (couldn't find it in the FAQ or the dice page)
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im sure this won but the system did not pay it as a winner.  can you check and verify

Dice Game E18D9F
You bet on the value of a random number between 0 and 1. The market is settled immediately after one bet is matched. The hash value is E18D9FC7B98735D6053636ACC4A318BB21B3F042The random number generator is probably fair and run by Fairlay. After settlement you may ask in the forum for the proof.
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im sure this won but the system did not pay it as a winner.  can you check and verify


You bet on the value of a random number between 0 and 1. The market is settled immediately after one bet is matched. The hash value is E18D9FC7B98735D6053636ACC4A318BB21B3F042The random number generator is probably fair and run by Fairlay. After settlement you may ask in the forum for the proof.
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for fun I wagered small on a dice game. to try the software and look things over.  noplace do I see the random number listed?  how does a customer or the fairplay know what it was so it can be graded correctly?  It says to ask in this forum?  how does the forum know?  thanks all!  somehow this hash value listed helps??  how does that work?  would it be difficult for the softwrae to just update and list the random number on the  RESOLVED wager page???   seems so obvious to do that.

Dice Game EB7360 - Random Number > 0.5?
You bet on the value of a random number between 0 and 1. The market is settled immediately after one bet is matched. The hash value is EB7360EC818399D60D2042047510D5FBF9207C4AThe random number generator is probably fair and run by Fairlay. After settlement you may ask in the forum for the proof.
Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fairlay-sports-betting-for-experts-highest-liquidity-provably-best-odds-673475

The random string for the market  EB7360  is

0.467095633720558AgtEfgbOfEfNDSIfemtmirpOIffVaWftPiEWfgSdJFGWkj%pddlsoUWMfQWWnbfC$qZkdsDCCHWrdOkXK%dWpEJfEfeWflDleflU

If you do 5 rounds of hashing where you hash first with MD5 and than with SHA1, you will get the required hash value.
interesting but I have no clue what that means?

step by step what does that mean?  5 rounds of hashing with MD5?   and then with SHA1  how do you do that?  where do you do that?  why would you not list the wining or losing random  number in large FONT each time when the wager is graded so the customer knows the result?   
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Why does fairlay take down all the horse race wagers 8 minutes before post time?  That seems much too early

Is there a Glitch on that also?


We are aware, that the behaviour of very volatile markets in horse racing is not very good. That's why it's still in alpha.  Best you try betting on markets that start in more than 30 minutes.
We couldn't sign up more / better market makers in the horse racing segment so far.
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for fun I wagered small on a dice game. to try the software and look things over.  noplace do I see the random number listed?  how does a customer or the fairplay know what it was so it can be graded correctly?  It says to ask in this forum?  how does the forum know?  thanks all!  somehow this hash value listed helps??  how does that work?  would it be difficult for the softwrae to just update and list the random number on the  RESOLVED wager page???   seems so obvious to do that.

Dice Game EB7360 - Random Number > 0.5?
You bet on the value of a random number between 0 and 1. The market is settled immediately after one bet is matched. The hash value is EB7360EC818399D60D2042047510D5FBF9207C4AThe random number generator is probably fair and run by Fairlay. After settlement you may ask in the forum for the proof.
Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fairlay-sports-betting-for-experts-highest-liquidity-provably-best-odds-673475

The random string for the market  EB7360  is

0.467095633720558AgtEfgbOfEfNDSIfemtmirpOIffVaWftPiEWfgSdJFGWkj%pddlsoUWMfQWWnbfC$qZkdsDCCHWrdOkXK%dWpEJfEfeWflDleflU

If you do 5 rounds of hashing where you hash first with MD5 and than with SHA1, you will get the required hash value.
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Why does fairlay take down all the horse race wagers 8 minutes before post time?  That seems much too early

Is there a Glitch on that also?
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horse exchange is not fully working today.  is there a glitch.  Many prices and offers are listed on the primary page. but when you click on any wager  for or against the new screen comes up and shows this.    No wager can be taken.  Then in addition after trying a wager on a specific race and getting this error that RACE totally disappears from the listed options!!    In this case the 17:30 race at dunkirk is now totally gone form the main screen  (despite 11 more minutes to post).  its like wagering on something causes it to first not be taken and second makes that race totally disappear from the interface! 


17:30
Winner
Source: https://smarkets.com/betting-rules/#horse-racing
Closing in: 00:08:23
Resolution date : Nov. 18, 2016, 5:45 p.m. (35 minutes from now)
Unmatched : 6,717.06 mBTC
Commission : 0%
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The full amount have been refunded to your account already.
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for fun I wagered small on a dice game. to try the software and look things over.  noplace do I see the random number listed?  how does a customer or the fairplay know what it was so it can be graded correctly?  It says to ask in this forum?  how does the forum know?  thanks all!  somehow this hash value listed helps??  how does that work?  would it be difficult for the softwrae to just update and list the random number on the  RESOLVED wager page???   seems so obvious to do that.

Dice Game EB7360 - Random Number > 0.5?
You bet on the value of a random number between 0 and 1. The market is settled immediately after one bet is matched. The hash value is EB7360EC818399D60D2042047510D5FBF9207C4AThe random number generator is probably fair and run by Fairlay. After settlement you may ask in the forum for the proof.
Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fairlay-sports-betting-for-experts-highest-liquidity-provably-best-odds-673475
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We decrease the number of Bitcoins on our platform to 2200.    https://blockchain.info/address/1EVrCZ3ahUucq3jvAqTTPTZe1tySniXuWi
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Hey,

what a stirring decision night! There was no time for a hangover for us, we processed around 200 withdrawals in the last 12 hours, alltogether  over 1500 BTC were cashed out so far.  

We therefor had to decrease the number of Bitcoins on our platform to 2500.  

Anyway, we are very pleased about the outcome of the election.  We generated more than  40 BTC in fees and all of this money is going into the developement of Fairlay.  Congratulation to all winners and thank you for betting on Fairlay!

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Thank you for providing this service  Smiley
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Just about every site with the exception of Fairlay has it offered as of now
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