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Quote from: imstillthebest on October 06, 2021, 06:03:33 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2021, 02:18:15 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on October 01, 2021, 02:06:04 AM

I guess not only do they make money from referrals but they also make money from the direct advertisements of the site. .

they can earn money thru referalls if they are good at acting it or good at promoting it because more viewers will sign up under them but if they are poor on executing the task , they cant make much money thru referalls .

I think this is the main intention of the streamers so they can make money from people who sign up under their referral.
If we noticed, they will post a referral link below the video and they will tell us to click on the link.

For me, as a viewer, if I see the video as interesting and helpful on my part, then I would not hesitate to sign up on the streamer's referral link as a way to reward his/her effort.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2021, 02:18:15 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on October 01, 2021, 02:06:04 AM

I guess not only do they make money from referrals but they also make money from the direct advertisements of the site. .

they can earn money thru referalls if they are good at acting it or good at promoting it because more viewers will sign up under them but if they are poor on executing the task , they cant make much money thru referalls .

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Streamers aim for money, so we should not believe that they are really making a lot of money, or betting a lot, otherwise, they will relax and enjoy their winning and be consistently making money without telling people what they are doing

some yes but some do streaming because they have passion in it and not only to make money . for the streamer that wants to earn more , he might actually gamble for real or by using his own cash .

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2021, 03:21:09 PM

Even if he lost everything, but if that bankroll is provided by the house, then there's nothing to worry on his part.

Yes, these streamers are paid, and as well as whatever they're playing with is sponsored by that gambling company that they advertise and where they're playing at.
And they have to show the best that they can and be entertaining so that they will satisfy not only their audience but as well as the company that they're paid with. It's what they've been paid for to attract and be entertaining and even they spend all that has been given to them in balance.

This will really look shocking to those who doesn't know this trick, then spending more money on gambling just because of the results they saw on YouTube by content creators. Although I'm not always moved by what I see. I do like proof not just following anything I see on internet. This is business so I don't think there is anything wrong with this.

Gambling strategies are very important but it is better to start with a small amount of money an important assumption is that in order to win a victory both teams must win by the rules of the minimum game, regardless of the winning margin. This implies that teams in a winning position will not necessarily try to increase their gap.

When we use a small amount of money, our risk will not be bigger and if somehow, we lose all of that money, we will not regret it too much because we know that gambling can make us lose money. If we watch those streamers and see they use big money to gamble, we need to avoid following their step using big money because the result will not be the same as what they get. Those streamers will get popularity by uploading many videos about their activity in the gambling games and I think they are making money from their video. So if we only follow them without thinking about how much money we use, we will lose that money, which could be a big loss to us.

All starts with small bets and once we get used to gamble everyday for sure we will find ways to increase our bets then urge to win more money from it. I'm sure all of us came to this and even if we lose a small amount of money still we regret on the strategies we made nor the money we continuously put while we are on bad shape while betting. For sure streamers intention is to get money from referrals also with views so we shouldn't hail them then follow what they do since for sure they are not losing more compare us regular bettor only.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 23, 2021, 06:50:21 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2021, 03:21:09 PM

Even if he lost everything, but if that bankroll is provided by the house, then there's nothing to worry on his part.

Yes, these streamers are paid, and as well as whatever they're playing with is sponsored by that gambling company that they advertise and where they're playing at.
And they have to show the best that they can and be entertaining so that they will satisfy not only their audience but as well as the company that they're paid with. It's what they've been paid for to attract and be entertaining and even they spend all that has been given to them in balance.

This will really look shocking to those who doesn't know this trick, then spending more money on gambling just because of the results they saw on YouTube by content creators. Although I'm not always moved by what I see. I do like proof not just following anything I see on internet. This is business so I don't think there is anything wrong with this.

Gambling strategies are very important but it is better to start with a small amount of money an important assumption is that in order to win a victory both teams must win by the rules of the minimum game, regardless of the winning margin. This implies that teams in a winning position will not necessarily try to increase their gap.

When we use a small amount of money, our risk will not be bigger and if somehow, we lose all of that money, we will not regret it too much because we know that gambling can make us lose money. If we watch those streamers and see they use big money to gamble, we need to avoid following their step using big money because the result will not be the same as what they get. Those streamers will get popularity by uploading many videos about their activity in the gambling games and I think they are making money from their video. So if we only follow them without thinking about how much money we use, we will lose that money, which could be a big loss to us.

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This is actually a subject that has two sides to a story....

Let's not forget that the Streamers are also functioning as "juicers" ...... all bets that are made are going into a "Pool" and the RTP of that game then give back a percentage of those bets to random players. So the Streamer are not guaranteed to receive back the amount that they are betting ...because other random players might win the money that the Streamer pushed into the "Pool"

On the other hand, some people are saying that some Streamers are playing with "special" lucky client & server seeds and/or a more favorable RTP..than other players. (I do not know if this is true... only casinos will know that) Roll Eyes

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This is why we also need to cautious on the gambling site we choose and always make sure that we are dealing with popular/reputable casinos advertised in youtube so that the risk is not high compare to unknown casino which has been advertisement by suspicious streamers which doesn't have credibility to market a casino.

And its somehow easy to spot them since most of them show an edited vids and always show unrealistic result and profits to their viewers.

The issue is that this forum is not as popular as it was with newbies back in the day, years ago if you wanted to find anything related to crypto this forum was the place to go, since then newbies have a lot more options to find out about anything related to crypto in social media, and since many young people are heavy consumers of social media they prefer to obtain their information from those sources than to come to this forum, and unfortunately this means they decide to follow those fake ads.

I'll take the case of 1XBIT, if these gamblers who've been scammed already know the existence of Bitcointalk and how active the forum is when it comes to gambling discussion they would have joined casinos with a good reputation, many new gamblers are recruited on the ads and social media ads, this is why many scam casinos pour a lot of money on social media and buying ads space on popular platform

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2021, 02:18:15 AM

I guess not only do they make money from referrals but they also make money from the direct advertisements of the site. Streamers aim for money, so we should not believe that they are really making a lot of money, or betting a lot, otherwise, they will relax and enjoy their winning and be consistently making money without telling people what they are doing.

They won't expose it what or where they're making the most.

That's their main goal since they've decided to be a streamer and full time with it, any opportunity that comes to them, they'll grab it as long as those are legitimate like these sponsorships and dealing to show how to bet for that sponsoring casino.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2021, 02:18:15 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on October 01, 2021, 02:06:04 AM

It's part of their strategy game to win and gain more players.

I guess not only do they make money from referrals but they also make money from the direct advertisements of the site. Streamers aim for money, so we should not believe that they are really making a lot of money, or betting a lot, otherwise, they will relax and enjoy their winning and be consistently making money without telling people what they are doing.

^ That is very common to the streamers, though they are not directly fake the bet it could be also they are betting with an unlimited fund or it could be manipulating by the house edge, increase the chances of winning by the streamers and the sponsorship will always there. That is why I did not fun to this kind of entertainment game or by introduced gambling by streamers because probably this is a fake bet and there is nothing true to the,m. However, that is their passion to lure people but if we know their purpose, we can simply avoid them.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 30, 2021, 04:30:39 AM

Quote from: STT on September 27, 2021, 06:59:30 PM

I'm far more wary of the fake adverts on YouTube if we listing complaints comparatively and I'd warn people of that far more and sooner then any promotional deal thats ongoing with streamers etc. and fairly obvious in comparison. The adverts on YouTube are frequently fraudulent and just lies, selling made up products that wont ever do what occurs in the advert. I even get a scam warning from anti virus software quite often if I click on a YouTube advert to warn me this website has been reported as fraud based. I click because it supports the content creator not because I'm prone to believe the lies spread during the advert. YouTube adverts have got increasingly worse, it needs to be said they are openly scamming people and it would be illegal if on TV. On the other side acting as a promotor for casinos is relative open and fair game imo.
I dont see why people kick up a problem especially, watch or dont if you dont like it.

If you scale that, then you are right, there are more paid promotions being advertised inside YouTube.

Not the streamers, but the site itself who provides those paid advertisements to those viewers who are not careful, for sure they are endangered
following external sites, believing that it's legit since YouTube allows them to promote.

Minding yourself from those fake streamers or advertisement is very important to lessen the chance of being allure and lose your money.

This is why we also need to cautious on the gambling site we choose and always make sure that we are dealing with popular/reputable casinos advertised in youtube so that the risk is not high compare to unknown casino which has been advertisement by suspicious streamers which doesn't have credibility to market a casino.

And its somehow easy to spot them since most of them show an edited vids and always show unrealistic result and profits to their viewers.

Common sense is all you need and you are not dumb on not to notice it and if you are in doubts then all or sources you could possibly checked out specially on this forum on where people are
mostly experience and could give out real time feedbacks and suggestions towards on the named website.It doesnt really need for you to exert too much effort or hard work on asking
out and since this forum itself is a good source of information on the first place.

Unfortunately common sense is not as common as you would believe, people make all kind of decisions that in retrospect we need to wonder why they did it? And most the time it is because they take their decisions based on emotions, also right now people rely extremely on social media and this means that if they see that several people are recommending a casino to play then they are going to want to play there without making any research about it just because they believe those people, not understanding that most likely those people were hired by the casino to promote them on those platforms and as such the reviews they give are not impartial.

You do really got the point which is actually true that people do directly believe into someone which they do really seem to be trusted and wont really make out any in depth research which would really result into direct

engagement without even knowing on what would be the next thing to happen.Most of the time people do really learn up when things do happen after.

So these are common real life scenarios which we do believe that it do happen.As a gambler or spectator then you should have at least that awareness.

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Quote from: Fatunad on September 30, 2021, 03:51:09 PM

Quote from: Taskford on September 30, 2021, 05:46:22 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on September 30, 2021, 04:30:39 AM

Quote from: STT on September 27, 2021, 06:59:30 PM

I'm far more wary of the fake adverts on YouTube if we listing complaints comparatively and I'd warn people of that far more and sooner then any promotional deal thats ongoing with streamers etc. and fairly obvious in comparison. The adverts on YouTube are frequently fraudulent and just lies, selling made up products that wont ever do what occurs in the advert. I even get a scam warning from anti virus software quite often if I click on a YouTube advert to warn me this website has been reported as fraud based. I click because it supports the content creator not because I'm prone to believe the lies spread during the advert. YouTube adverts have got increasingly worse, it needs to be said they are openly scamming people and it would be illegal if on TV. On the other side acting as a promotor for casinos is relative open and fair game imo.
I dont see why people kick up a problem especially, watch or dont if you dont like it.

If you scale that, then you are right, there are more paid promotions being advertised inside YouTube.

Not the streamers, but the site itself who provides those paid advertisements to those viewers who are not careful, for sure they are endangered
following external sites, believing that it's legit since YouTube allows them to promote.

Minding yourself from those fake streamers or advertisement is very important to lessen the chance of being allure and lose your money.

This is why we also need to cautious on the gambling site we choose and always make sure that we are dealing with popular/reputable casinos advertised in youtube so that the risk is not high compare to unknown casino which has been advertisement by suspicious streamers which doesn't have credibility to market a casino.

And its somehow easy to spot them since most of them show an edited vids and always show unrealistic result and profits to their viewers.

Common sense is all you need and you are not dumb on not to notice it and if you are in doubts then all or sources you could possibly checked out specially on this forum on where people are
mostly experience and could give out real time feedbacks and suggestions towards on the named website.It doesnt really need for you to exert too much effort or hard work on asking
out and since this forum itself is a good source of information on the first place.

Unfortunately common sense is not as common as you would believe, people make all kind of decisions that in retrospect we need to wonder why they did it? And most the time it is because they take their decisions based on emotions, also right now people rely extremely on social media and this means that if they see that several people are recommending a casino to play then they are going to want to play there without making any research about it just because they believe those people, not understanding that most likely those people were hired by the casino to promote them on those platforms and as such the reviews they give are not impartial.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 23, 2021, 06:50:21 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2021, 03:21:09 PM

Even if he lost everything, but if that bankroll is provided by the house, then there's nothing to worry on his part.

Yes, these streamers are paid, and as well as whatever they're playing with is sponsored by that gambling company that they advertise and where they're playing at.
And they have to show the best that they can and be entertaining so that they will satisfy not only their audience but as well as the company that they're paid with. It's what they've been paid for to attract and be entertaining and even they spend all that has been given to them in balance.

This will really look shocking to those who doesn't know this trick, then spending more money on gambling just because of the results they saw on YouTube by content creators. Although I'm not always moved by what I see. I do like proof not just following anything I see on internet. This is business so I don't think there is anything wrong with this.

It's part of the business when they know that a particular streamer gain a lot of views and followers of course it's more easier to promote their platform and also they paid the user plus the additional demo money from their platform. Still it depends on the transactions of both parties. We always say that the Gambling houses wins the game and if you got lucky you play against the odds. It's part of their strategy game to win and gain more players.

No I disagree you are not "lucky" if you win against the odds, because except if the game is rigged, you will always have a chance to win something. If you have 48% chances to win at a Hi-Lo game, I wouldn't say you are very lucky if you manage to double your stake.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2021, 02:18:15 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on October 01, 2021, 02:06:04 AM

It's part of their strategy game to win and gain more players.

I guess not only do they make money from referrals but they also make money from the direct advertisements of the site. Streamers aim for money, so we should not believe that they are really making a lot of money, or betting a lot, otherwise, they will relax and enjoy their winning and be consistently making money without telling people what they are doing.

That's their main intention on why they hype some gambling site so much since they see a huge opportunity to earn by just doing that and its not surprising that they do fake bets or use fake money just to show some amazing game result that they go thru so that they can lure people to come to and play with them. But we need to be careful on what casino they are promoting since this is also important so that we will not lose anything for scamming reason.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2021, 02:18:15 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on October 01, 2021, 02:06:04 AM

It's part of their strategy game to win and gain more players.

I guess not only do they make money from referrals but they also make money from the direct advertisements of the site. Streamers aim for money, so we should not believe that they are really making a lot of money, or betting a lot, otherwise, they will relax and enjoy their winning and be consistently making money without telling people what they are doing.

It had been explained in the OP, actually they are paid by the casinos through rewards on what they are wagering. Then they have an incentive to play seriously and to show to people how you can win jackpots and big prizes on these games.

Quote from: Monarch- on March 12, 2021, 05:28:31 AM

A) Bet amount inflation; The streamer only wants to gamble with $100. The site gives them "$10000" in funds, but only 1% of this is withdrawable. The viewers will think that the streamer is gambling with $10000, while in reality, they're only risking $100.

B) Infinite refills; The casino makes an agreement with the streamer. Let's say they want to pay the streamer $50,000 for a sponsorship contract. They start giving the streamer endless $1000 refills, which the streamer is supposed to gamble with. They will repeat this process until they "win" $50,000. The streamer will pretend to be shocked and highlight this big win in all of their social media channels. However, the truth is that there were zero risks involved for the streamer, and the final outcome was already known -- It was just a matter of time.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2021, 02:18:15 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on October 01, 2021, 02:06:04 AM

It's part of their strategy game to win and gain more players.

I guess not only do they make money from referrals but they also make money from the direct advertisements of the site. Streamers aim for money, so we should not believe that they are really making a lot of money, or betting a lot, otherwise, they will relax and enjoy their winning and be consistently making money without telling people what they are doing.

That strategy that they are doing is very normal as we can see a lot of advertisements that is very attractful to make a lot of users in the gambling platform and those promotes are gaining money in both promoting and referrals.Well, we can't deny that some of the streamers have money but some are aiming money to be more rich or fulfill his desires in gambling.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on October 01, 2021, 02:06:04 AM

It's part of their strategy game to win and gain more players.

I guess not only do they make money from referrals but they also make money from the direct advertisements of the site. Streamers aim for money, so we should not believe that they are really making a lot of money, or betting a lot, otherwise, they will relax and enjoy their winning and be consistently making money without telling people what they are doing.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 23, 2021, 06:50:21 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2021, 03:21:09 PM

Even if he lost everything, but if that bankroll is provided by the house, then there's nothing to worry on his part.

Yes, these streamers are paid, and as well as whatever they're playing with is sponsored by that gambling company that they advertise and where they're playing at.
And they have to show the best that they can and be entertaining so that they will satisfy not only their audience but as well as the company that they're paid with. It's what they've been paid for to attract and be entertaining and even they spend all that has been given to them in balance.

This will really look shocking to those who doesn't know this trick, then spending more money on gambling just because of the results they saw on YouTube by content creators. Although I'm not always moved by what I see. I do like proof not just following anything I see on internet. This is business so I don't think there is anything wrong with this.

It's part of the business when they know that a particular streamer gain a lot of views and followers of course it's more easier to promote their platform and also they paid the user plus the additional demo money from their platform. Still it depends on the transactions of both parties. We always say that the Gambling houses wins the game and if you got lucky you play against the odds. It's part of their strategy game to win and gain more players.

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Quote from: Monarch- on March 12, 2021, 05:28:31 AM

In my personal opinion, this sort of marketing is highly deceiving and dishonest. Roobet (and other casinos) are inflating their systems with fake bets, pretending to be more popular than they really are. This is a loss for both, legit sites that don't want to inflate their numbers, and legit streamers who don't want to participate in the circus of fake bets and fake reactions.

What do you think?

I saw this topic and also decided to write what I think.
Of course, fake promotions have plagued us all our entire lives. And this applies not only to casino advertising or even specifically to this casino that you are writing about. Unfortunately, it is now almost everywhere. Watch TV commercials. Advertising for banks, cosmetics, medicines, vacuum cleaners, etc. - everything, absolutely everything is fake. And the goal here is one - to tell you where else you will voluntarily go to give your money yourself, and the advertiser will receive it accordingly. So the question is much broader and more complex. Because I can't even imagine whether this worldwide falsehood will end at least someday during our lifetime?
Most likely no! Sad

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Quote from: Taskford on September 30, 2021, 05:46:22 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on September 30, 2021, 04:30:39 AM

Quote from: STT on September 27, 2021, 06:59:30 PM

I'm far more wary of the fake adverts on YouTube if we listing complaints comparatively and I'd warn people of that far more and sooner then any promotional deal thats ongoing with streamers etc. and fairly obvious in comparison. The adverts on YouTube are frequently fraudulent and just lies, selling made up products that wont ever do what occurs in the advert. I even get a scam warning from anti virus software quite often if I click on a YouTube advert to warn me this website has been reported as fraud based. I click because it supports the content creator not because I'm prone to believe the lies spread during the advert. YouTube adverts have got increasingly worse, it needs to be said they are openly scamming people and it would be illegal if on TV. On the other side acting as a promotor for casinos is relative open and fair game imo.
I dont see why people kick up a problem especially, watch or dont if you dont like it.

If you scale that, then you are right, there are more paid promotions being advertised inside YouTube.

Not the streamers, but the site itself who provides those paid advertisements to those viewers who are not careful, for sure they are endangered
following external sites, believing that it's legit since YouTube allows them to promote.

Minding yourself from those fake streamers or advertisement is very important to lessen the chance of being allure and lose your money.

This is why we also need to cautious on the gambling site we choose and always make sure that we are dealing with popular/reputable casinos advertised in youtube so that the risk is not high compare to unknown casino which has been advertisement by suspicious streamers which doesn't have credibility to market a casino.

And its somehow easy to spot them since most of them show an edited vids and always show unrealistic result and profits to their viewers.

Common sense is all you need and you are not dumb on not to notice it and if you are in doubts then all or sources you could possibly checked out specially on this forum on where people are
mostly experience and could give out real time feedbacks and suggestions towards on the named website.It doesnt really need for you to exert too much effort or hard work on asking
out and since this forum itself is a good source of information on the first place.

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Quote from: Taskford on September 30, 2021, 05:46:22 AM

This is why we also need to cautious on the gambling site we choose and always make sure that we are dealing with popular/reputable casinos advertised in youtube so that the risk is not high compare to unknown casino which has been advertisement by suspicious streamers which doesn't have credibility to market a casino.

And its somehow easy to spot them since most of them show an edited vids and always show unrealistic result and profits to their viewers.

The issue is that this forum is not as popular as it was with newbies back in the day, years ago if you wanted to find anything related to crypto this forum was the place to go, since then newbies have a lot more options to find out about anything related to crypto in social media, and since many young people are heavy consumers of social media they prefer to obtain their information from those sources than to come to this forum, and unfortunately this means they decide to follow those fake ads.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 30, 2021, 04:30:39 AM

Quote from: STT on September 27, 2021, 06:59:30 PM

I'm far more wary of the fake adverts on YouTube if we listing complaints comparatively and I'd warn people of that far more and sooner then any promotional deal thats ongoing with streamers etc. and fairly obvious in comparison. The adverts on YouTube are frequently fraudulent and just lies, selling made up products that wont ever do what occurs in the advert. I even get a scam warning from anti virus software quite often if I click on a YouTube advert to warn me this website has been reported as fraud based. I click because it supports the content creator not because I'm prone to believe the lies spread during the advert. YouTube adverts have got increasingly worse, it needs to be said they are openly scamming people and it would be illegal if on TV. On the other side acting as a promotor for casinos is relative open and fair game imo.
I dont see why people kick up a problem especially, watch or dont if you dont like it.

If you scale that, then you are right, there are more paid promotions being advertised inside YouTube.

Not the streamers, but the site itself who provides those paid advertisements to those viewers who are not careful, for sure they are endangered
following external sites, believing that it's legit since YouTube allows them to promote.

Minding yourself from those fake streamers or advertisement is very important to lessen the chance of being allure and lose your money.

This is why we also need to cautious on the gambling site we choose and always make sure that we are dealing with popular/reputable casinos advertised in youtube so that the risk is not high compare to unknown casino which has been advertisement by suspicious streamers which doesn't have credibility to market a casino.

And its somehow easy to spot them since most of them show an edited vids and always show unrealistic result and profits to their viewers.

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