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Quote from: Oasisman on September 16, 2021, 07:22:50 AM

There's no guarantee that old gambling websites are not doing this, considering the tight competition on online gambling websites today. Of course the players are looking to engage on websites that has high volume of stakes to ensure the eligibility of a certain website.
Online casinos should always be transparent in terms of betting and winning. Rollbit and Roobet have this feature on their website. This will enable players to scan whether this users are legit or not.

I'm sure there are many victims website gamble. But luckily I am not careless in choosing a gambling site. I don't really know much about gambling sites, but some of the sites that do marketing here I think are quite credible. And I have an account on a site that is campaigned on Signature on this forum. Except some cases like I heard 1xBit that doesn't pay. But in the signature campaign has been given a warning and got Red Trust for his supporters.

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Quote from: oktana on September 21, 2021, 02:54:34 AM

Correct! Most online gambling sites are guilty of this. They fake their bets scores to not only attract people but to inspire them to bet big. A player may have wanted to bet with only $100, then they make you feel like $100 is small. The bad news is that you comply and end up losing it all. So whenever you see huge bets on gambling sites, know that they could be exaggerating and stick to your initial amount/decision. Wink

I do not think that the casino can influence the size of the player's bet with any kind of advertising. If a person has a budget, then he should not exceed it, and if he suddenly thinks that he should win, then first he will win with a small bet and then he will be able to bet more. If he does not understand such simple things, then this is his personal mistake.

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Quote from: oktana on September 21, 2021, 02:54:34 AM

Correct! Most online gambling sites are guilty of this. They fake their bets scores to not only attract people but to inspire them to bet big.

Inspiring them to bet Big? how? because of aspiration from other bettors who put their big amount of bet? this is i believe is not accurate claims.

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A player may have wanted to bet with only $100, then they make you feel like $100 is small.

gamblers are not that stupid to think like that , sorry for the word but i am gambler myself and i believe will never act like this.

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The bad news is that you comply and end up losing it all. So whenever you see huge bets on gambling sites, know that they could be exaggerating and stick to your initial amount/decision. Wink

the bad news is? you learn that you fool yourself from believing like that.

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Quote from: btcltcdigger on September 21, 2021, 04:57:47 AM

To be quite honest, doesn't surprise me one bit.
Streamers and influencers are well know for their shady practices (ie renting lambos and pretending they own it).
And casinos just play along, trying to get best bang for their buck

actually the question here is "WHO IS CLEAN"? if there is at least single gambling site that can raise their hands telling people that at some point they did not do this? then i will rest my case Grin

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But the problem is All casinos has this kind of advertising and strategy to lure players and i believe at most point this is effective?

and in the end it is the gamblers decision in which to play and bet though all has the same style lol.

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Quote from: btcltcdigger on September 21, 2021, 04:57:47 AM

To be quite honest, doesn't surprise me one bit.
Streamers and influencers are well know for their shady practices (ie renting lambos and pretending they own it).
And casinos just play along, trying to get best bang for their buck

It's just a way to secure their money and attract a lot of customers who are already carried away from their game, there are so many influencers out there who are paid to attract a lot of customers not even just about gambling. Honestly, even though I know it's just about marketing needs but sometimes I also fall into their hole but when I have lost then I realize if this has to stop because I will never be able to continue to pursue what they got from that gamble.

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To be quite honest, doesn't surprise me one bit.
Streamers and influencers are well know for their shady practices (ie renting lambos and pretending they own it).
And casinos just play along, trying to get best bang for their buck

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Correct! Most online gambling sites are guilty of this. They fake their bets scores to not only attract people but to inspire them to bet big. A player may have wanted to bet with only $100, then they make you feel like $100 is small. The bad news is that you comply and end up losing it all. So whenever you see huge bets on gambling sites, know that they could be exaggerating and stick to your initial amount/decision. Wink

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Quote from: seleme on September 20, 2021, 04:58:27 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 20, 2021, 04:33:17 PM

Quote from: qwertyup23 on September 20, 2021, 01:15:24 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on September 20, 2021, 12:07:31 PM

Isn't this all for the sake of advertising, IMO, if the streamers fake those bets and have infinite funds to spend on the site due to xdeal, it's no longer our problem. Our faith, as gamblers, is still in our hands, and gambling platforms can never guarantee victories because it will always depend on our luck and ability to bet.

The problem actually stems from streamers who advertise such false services with rigged rates. Most of these streamers (if not all) are paid by these gambling establishments in order to advertise their supposed to be "legit" rates. But unfortunately, everything is just a smoke screen towards their unethical practice of rigging the rates and causing it to appear that you have a high chance of winning something.

Though this may be the case, please exercise extreme caution to websites that are being advertised by these streamers. The fact that they are 'advertised' means that they are desperate for exposure.

if you are a gambler, you very well know that those winnings from paid streamers are not legit or true. we have no idea what is happening behind those deals. what am worried is, for those new gamblers/players, it is really deceiving from their end. this is why many new players will try those sites to check if such advertisement is true. and they will easily find out, it is not. in this digital age, everyone can practically manipulate what needs to be seen by their audience. you have to be smart on these things and not believe all the good things that you are seeing. of course, they will tempt you to try and send your funds to their site. but if you will lose, they have nothing to do about it.

And one more thing you forgot to mention: Higher RTP for streamer account, I don't know technics but heard about this on Reddit discussions. Some websites offer higher RTP and bigger deposit bonuses for streamers and of course, all these account features, promos, bonuses will lead to the max win per week. It is just a matter of time to hit huge wins but for the average gambler spinning $1000 per bet is ridiculously high, IMHO.

This is true and a logical thing to think so that the stream will be more interesting and catchy. It's an exclusive privilege for famous streamers. To qualify for that, the streamer should be a heavy one with lots of viewers and followers. A high RTP isn't any assurance that these streamers will hit that jackpot but on the way, they have more chance of getting it compare to usual gamblers.

And the tricky part, viewers will think that they will have the same experience so they will test it. Not realizing their RTP is the default one different from the streamers.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 20, 2021, 04:33:17 PM

Quote from: qwertyup23 on September 20, 2021, 01:15:24 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on September 20, 2021, 12:07:31 PM

Isn't this all for the sake of advertising, IMO, if the streamers fake those bets and have infinite funds to spend on the site due to xdeal, it's no longer our problem. Our faith, as gamblers, is still in our hands, and gambling platforms can never guarantee victories because it will always depend on our luck and ability to bet.

The problem actually stems from streamers who advertise such false services with rigged rates. Most of these streamers (if not all) are paid by these gambling establishments in order to advertise their supposed to be "legit" rates. But unfortunately, everything is just a smoke screen towards their unethical practice of rigging the rates and causing it to appear that you have a high chance of winning something.

Though this may be the case, please exercise extreme caution to websites that are being advertised by these streamers. The fact that they are 'advertised' means that they are desperate for exposure.

if you are a gambler, you very well know that those winnings from paid streamers are not legit or true. we have no idea what is happening behind those deals. what am worried is, for those new gamblers/players, it is really deceiving from their end. this is why many new players will try those sites to check if such advertisement is true. and they will easily find out, it is not. in this digital age, everyone can practically manipulate what needs to be seen by their audience. you have to be smart on these things and not believe all the good things that you are seeing. of course, they will tempt you to try and send your funds to their site. but if you will lose, they have nothing to do about it.

And one more thing you forgot to mention: Higher RTP for streamer account, I don't know technics but heard about this on Reddit discussions. Some websites offer higher RTP and bigger deposit bonuses for streamers and of course, all these account features, promos, bonuses will lead to the max win per week. It is just a matter of time to hit huge wins but for the average gambler spinning $1000 per bet is ridiculously high, IMHO.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 20, 2021, 04:33:17 PM

Quote from: qwertyup23 on September 20, 2021, 01:15:24 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on September 20, 2021, 12:07:31 PM

Isn't this all for the sake of advertising, IMO, if the streamers fake those bets and have infinite funds to spend on the site due to xdeal, it's no longer our problem. Our faith, as gamblers, is still in our hands, and gambling platforms can never guarantee victories because it will always depend on our luck and ability to bet.

The problem actually stems from streamers who advertise such false services with rigged rates. Most of these streamers (if not all) are paid by these gambling establishments in order to advertise their supposed to be "legit" rates. But unfortunately, everything is just a smoke screen towards their unethical practice of rigging the rates and causing it to appear that you have a high chance of winning something.

Though this may be the case, please exercise extreme caution to websites that are being advertised by these streamers. The fact that they are 'advertised' means that they are desperate for exposure.

if you are a gambler, you very well know that those winnings from paid streamers are not legit or true. we have no idea what is happening behind those deals. what am worried is, for those new gamblers/players, it is really deceiving from their end. this is why many new players will try those sites to check if such advertisement is true. and they will easily find out, it is not. in this digital age, everyone can practically manipulate what needs to be seen by their audience. you have to be smart on these things and not believe all the good things that you are seeing. of course, they will tempt you to try and send your funds to their site. but if you will lose, they have nothing to do about it.

One of the reasons on why i dont really bother myself on watching or believing these kind of streams specially if its attached to gambling and most of the time they do really have some deals or simply means
they are been sponsored which means that they wont really be minding much on how much they would lose as long they could able to hook up people on playing on the site.
Fake bets is somewhat an exaggerating part because as long you dont been forced to play then i dont see anything wrong with this one in regard.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on September 20, 2021, 01:15:24 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on September 20, 2021, 12:07:31 PM

Isn't this all for the sake of advertising, IMO, if the streamers fake those bets and have infinite funds to spend on the site due to xdeal, it's no longer our problem. Our faith, as gamblers, is still in our hands, and gambling platforms can never guarantee victories because it will always depend on our luck and ability to bet.

The problem actually stems from streamers who advertise such false services with rigged rates. Most of these streamers (if not all) are paid by these gambling establishments in order to advertise their supposed to be "legit" rates. But unfortunately, everything is just a smoke screen towards their unethical practice of rigging the rates and causing it to appear that you have a high chance of winning something.

Though this may be the case, please exercise extreme caution to websites that are being advertised by these streamers. The fact that they are 'advertised' means that they are desperate for exposure.

if you are a gambler, you very well know that those winnings from paid streamers are not legit or true. we have no idea what is happening behind those deals. what am worried is, for those new gamblers/players, it is really deceiving from their end. this is why many new players will try those sites to check if such advertisement is true. and they will easily find out, it is not. in this digital age, everyone can practically manipulate what needs to be seen by their audience. you have to be smart on these things and not believe all the good things that you are seeing. of course, they will tempt you to try and send your funds to their site. but if you will lose, they have nothing to do about it.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on September 20, 2021, 12:07:31 PM

Isn't this all for the sake of advertising, IMO, if the streamers fake those bets and have infinite funds to spend on the site due to xdeal, it's no longer our problem. Our faith, as gamblers, is still in our hands, and gambling platforms can never guarantee victories because it will always depend on our luck and ability to bet.

The problem actually stems from streamers who advertise such false services with rigged rates. Most of these streamers (if not all) are paid by these gambling establishments in order to advertise their supposed to be "legit" rates. But unfortunately, everything is just a smoke screen towards their unethical practice of rigging the rates and causing it to appear that you have a high chance of winning something.

Though this may be the case, please exercise extreme caution to websites that are being advertised by these streamers. The fact that they are 'advertised' means that they are desperate for exposure.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on September 20, 2021, 12:07:31 PM

Isn't this all for the sake of advertising, IMO, if the streamers fake those bets and have infinite funds to spend on the site due to xdeal, it's no longer our problem. Our faith, as gamblers, is still in our hands, and gambling platforms can never guarantee victories because it will always depend on our luck and ability to bet. Similar things happen in other advertising; some fake it for the sake of formality to make things look good, but don't expect it to be the same as yours because it will always depend on you. I still prioritize the gambling platform's benefits rather than those fake bets on videos and stream 'cause all I know about it is for only attracting gamblers that their platform is really good visually, but the wins and loses will always on your hands.

The fact remains and I agree with you, your own destination depends on how you play the game. Streamers may affect you with the belief that you may duplicate their luck, but it's your money that you need to be held responsible with. Paid streamers are there to promote, and if they are doing those fake bets, it's gamblers' responsibilities to balance everything.

Both wins and losses are always depending on how you play, and how you managed your activities, desiring to earn like how most streamers does is not bad, but make sure you understand all the possible risks that may happen to your bankroll.

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Isn't this all for the sake of advertising, IMO, if the streamers fake those bets and have infinite funds to spend on the site due to xdeal, it's no longer our problem. Our faith, as gamblers, is still in our hands, and gambling platforms can never guarantee victories because it will always depend on our luck and ability to bet. Similar things happen in other advertising; some fake it for the sake of formality to make things look good, but don't expect it to be the same as yours because it will always depend on you. I still prioritize the gambling platform's benefits rather than those fake bets on videos and stream 'cause all I know about it is for only attracting gamblers that their platform is really good visually, but the wins and loses will always on your hands.

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Quote from: Monarch- on March 12, 2021, 05:28:31 AM

Edit:
This seems to be a pretty controversial subject, so I decided to write this blog post to expand on my thoughts on this:
https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778

I'm curious to hear what the Bitcointalk community thinks about this topic;

Casinos using fake bets to attract new players.

I was surprised to learn that the vast majority of videos and streams on Roobet.com are actually fake.
Here are a couple of examples of different deal formats that casinos are making with the influencers:

I always knew that these streamers make a lot more from advertising and refs links than from the bets themselves, but I also didn't know they could be fakes.
The worst thing is that I myself have applied several "foolproof tactics" to get rich and only broke my bankroll. But that was at a time when I was still eluded by these games.

Videos like that are good for you to understand the dynamics of the sites and get some tips, but never fully apply them to a game.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 16, 2021, 07:22:50 AM

Quote from: virasog on September 16, 2021, 06:30:01 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 16, 2021, 05:22:54 AM

Quote from: Desmong on September 15, 2021, 06:14:02 PM

This your complain is never new in the casino and gambling world so don't be bias cause it has become a normal trend I think don't think is a fake means to attract more gamblers to gamble on a particular platform. This can be term business techniques that every gambling platforms make use of which I don't you need to accuse just Roobit only. I think if you don't like the techniques kindly disregard gambling online cause it's normal to me.

Not only gambling sites employ this but even new trading and exchange are also doing this to attract more traders and players, even old gambling sites are doing this whenever there is a decline in activities, if the gambling site has a good reputation, there's nothing wrong on doing this, the most important thing is they have no scam report and they pay their players on time.

The old gambling sites does not need to deploy these tactics of fake bets because it is not a right way to promote the site.

Even I think that new gambling sites which are here for long term business should avoid from fake bets.

There's no guarantee that old gambling websites are not doing this, considering the tight competition on online gambling websites today. Of course the players are looking to engage on websites that has high volume of stakes to ensure the eligibility of a certain website.
Online casinos should always be transparent in terms of betting and winning. Rollbit and Roobet have this feature on their website. This will enable players to scan whether this users are legit or not.

That's definitely true, they look for a high volume of stakes so they can trust the site, just like when we are choosing an exchange, we always prefer to trade on an exchange with a high volume, like choosing Binance over other exchanges. This is what people usually do, and just like in exchange, when we find out that the volume is fake, we will lose our trust in the site and that is not good for their business as what makes them successful is their reputation.

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Quote from: Monarch- on March 12, 2021, 05:28:31 AM

I'm curious to hear what the Bitcointalk community thinks about this topic;

Casinos using fake bets to attract new players.

I was surprised to learn that the vast majority of videos and streams on Roobet.com are actually fake.
Here are a couple of examples of different deal formats that casinos are making with the influencers:

In my personal opinion, this sort of marketing is highly deceiving and dishonest. This is a loss for both, legit sites that don't want to inflate their numbers, and legit streamers who don't want to participate in the circus of fake bets and fake reactions.

What do you think?

Every casino have their own marketing method to attract more players because they know the mindset of players they want to play in a casino with a lot of active players, more active players means more money in the casinos deposited and they can still pay their winners, for me I don't care if this is the kind of marketing the casino I'm playing is employing as long as I get money when I want to withdraw my winnings and as long as the bets are provably fair

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This is included within the contracts the streamer and the gambling firm which in this case is Roobet, had signed for. The streamers will have to be paid for the exposure they give the site somehow and Roobet saw an opportunity in this by creating this plan. I don't think it is entirely misleading because at the end of it all, none should have the connotation that just because I won a lot today, it means you will too. If that is how you think about gambling then you might wanna reconsider your choices because this type of mindset breeds addiction

Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 16, 2021, 05:22:54 AM

Quote from: Desmong on September 15, 2021, 06:14:02 PM

This your complain is never new in the casino and gambling world so don't be bias cause it has become a normal trend I think don't think is a fake means to attract more gamblers to gamble on a particular platform. This can be term business techniques that every gambling platforms make use of which I don't you need to accuse just Roobit only. I think if you don't like the techniques kindly disregard gambling online cause it's normal to me.

Not only gambling sites employ this but even new trading and exchange are also doing this to attract more traders and players, even old gambling sites are doing this whenever there is a decline in activities, if the gambling site has a good reputation, there's nothing wrong on doing this, the most important thing is they have no scam report and they pay their players on time.

Exactly, I haven't heard issues from Roobet players like me about something as delayed balance report or withdrawal because the site works on what matters most. The energy people put on stuff like this where people hate on how they promote themselves should be redirected to something that is much more productive like learning the ins and outs and the dangers of gambling, among other important stuff that a beginner or a neophyte in gambling should be aware of.

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Quote from: virasog on September 16, 2021, 06:30:01 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 16, 2021, 05:22:54 AM

Quote from: Desmong on September 15, 2021, 06:14:02 PM

This your complain is never new in the casino and gambling world so don't be bias cause it has become a normal trend I think don't think is a fake means to attract more gamblers to gamble on a particular platform. This can be term business techniques that every gambling platforms make use of which I don't you need to accuse just Roobit only. I think if you don't like the techniques kindly disregard gambling online cause it's normal to me.

Not only gambling sites employ this but even new trading and exchange are also doing this to attract more traders and players, even old gambling sites are doing this whenever there is a decline in activities, if the gambling site has a good reputation, there's nothing wrong on doing this, the most important thing is they have no scam report and they pay their players on time.

The old gambling sites does not need to deploy these tactics of fake bets because it is not a right way to promote the site.

Even I think that new gambling sites which are here for long term business should avoid from fake bets.

There's no guarantee that old gambling websites are not doing this, considering the tight competition on online gambling websites today. Of course the players are looking to engage on websites that has high volume of stakes to ensure the eligibility of a certain website.
Online casinos should always be transparent in terms of betting and winning. Rollbit and Roobet have this feature on their website. This will enable players to scan whether this users are legit or not.

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Quote from: virasog on September 16, 2021, 06:30:01 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 16, 2021, 05:22:54 AM

Quote from: Desmong on September 15, 2021, 06:14:02 PM

This your complain is never new in the casino and gambling world so don't be bias cause it has become a normal trend I think don't think is a fake means to attract more gamblers to gamble on a particular platform. This can be term business techniques that every gambling platforms make use of which I don't you need to accuse just Roobit only. I think if you don't like the techniques kindly disregard gambling online cause it's normal to me.

Not only gambling sites employ this but even new trading and exchange are also doing this to attract more traders and players, even old gambling sites are doing this whenever there is a decline in activities, if the gambling site has a good reputation, there's nothing wrong on doing this, the most important thing is they have no scam report and they pay their players on time.

The old gambling sites does not need to deploy these tactics of fake bets because it is not a right way to promote the site.

Even I think that new gambling sites which are here for long term business should avoid from fake bets.

We never know, that kind of marketing strategy is very effective, once gamblers see that this particular bettor is putting a huge bet on a certain site, they will think that the site is legit because it's one of the bases to determine if the site could really pay the winners.

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