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Quote from: STT on September 27, 2021, 07:59:30 PM

I'm far more wary of the fake adverts on YouTube if we listing complaints comparatively and I'd warn people of that far more and sooner then any promotional deal thats ongoing with streamers etc. and fairly obvious in comparison. The adverts on YouTube are frequently fraudulent and just lies, selling made up products that wont ever do what occurs in the advert. I even get a scam warning from anti virus software quite often if I click on a YouTube advert to warn me this website has been reported as fraud based. I click because it supports the content creator not because I'm prone to believe the lies spread during the advert. YouTube adverts have got increasingly worse, it needs to be said they are openly scamming people and it would be illegal if on TV. On the other side acting as a promotor for casinos is relative open and fair game imo.
I dont see why people kick up a problem especially, watch or dont if you dont like it.

If you scale that, then you are right, there are more paid promotions being advertised inside YouTube.

Not the streamers, but the site itself who provides those paid advertisements to those viewers who are not careful, for sure they are endangered
following external sites, believing that it's legit since YouTube allows them to promote.

Minding yourself from those fake streamers or advertisement is very important to lessen the chance of being allure and lose your money.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on September 27, 2021, 02:14:07 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 24, 2021, 11:13:06 AM

What's deceptive are those fake bets that are appearing on the casinos. That's the unethical way of getting more gamblers because they're showing that they've got lots of bets but in fact that they're all fake. For the streamers that do get cut, surely they do they a cut but it's still depending on the contract that they'll sign with the casino that they'll advertise through their own platforms and channels.

Unfortunately this is very common when it comes to advertising, do we really think that when a celebrity promotes a product that they actually use it? Most of the time this is not the case, they are promoting something just because they are paid to do so and many times this is even true for the brands that belong to them.

Well, we adults know that they don't really use the products that they advertise unless that personality really spends their time using products like the casinos that they're advertising and they're an avid user of it.

Quote from: wxa7115 on September 27, 2021, 02:14:07 PM

So something similar is happening here, with some casinos hiring Internet celebrities to promote their brand, is it deceptive? Yes and unfortunately casinos are not the only ones doing this.

Yes, it's not only the casinos that do it and there are a lot of brands and companies that do it. They put them in a contract until a certain period of time that they have to play and show exposure to their casinos through that endorser they've chosen.

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By the way, who of those who saw an obvious fraudulent advertisement (or video with clearly fraudulent content) made a report about it? I believe that this is an effective way to increase the level of content and get rid of all scam and spam - if we are more active in this, then scammers simply will not make sense to waste time on such things. For example, recently there was a fight between Joshua and Usyk and I saw on Twitch a supposedly broadcast of this fight that spammed a suspicious link on which it could be watched. I made a report and this stream was closed, perhaps it made some naive users safe.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on September 27, 2021, 12:53:13 PM

Yeah, so we don't have to always complain because the advertisement differs from the real thing. Of course, advertisements exist to lure people to their gambling site, and your chances of winning or losing will now be determined by how you play and how much you wager. This is a fact that some people can accept, and I truly believe that individuals are simply greedy and desired a quick profit from a gambling platform with a high chance of winning. This isn't the case here; gambling will be determined by your luck and RNG level. Roll Eyes

All will end up relying on how responsible you are, balancing what you watched from how you play. Streamers and influencers are there to allure people to play the game. Everything will be on your shoulders managing your funds and limiting yourself from losing a huge amount of money. For those who can't control and continue exceeding from the allocated amount of money, they are the one who was open their door to addictions.

The bad sides of this promotional streams, for some viewers, it serves as inspiration, but for those greedy gamblers, they are aiming to win a huge amount, which leads them to lose more.

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I'm far more wary of the fake adverts on YouTube if we listing complaints comparatively and I'd warn people of that far more and sooner then any promotional deal thats ongoing with streamers etc. and fairly obvious in comparison. The adverts on YouTube are frequently fraudulent and just lies, selling made up products that wont ever do what occurs in the advert. I even get a scam warning from anti virus software quite often if I click on a YouTube advert to warn me this website has been reported as fraud based. I click because it supports the content creator not because I'm prone to believe the lies spread during the advert. YouTube adverts have got increasingly worse, it needs to be said they are openly scamming people and it would be illegal if on TV. On the other side acting as a promotor for casinos is relative open and fair game imo.
I dont see why people kick up a problem especially, watch or dont if you dont like it.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on September 24, 2021, 05:25:26 PM

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There is a lot of youtube bloggers scamming their subscribers and nothing is happen. Especially, russian bloggers are often tell this fact "in the face" to their auditory and nothing is changing for them.

So i'm doubt about reputation risks for such bloggers

I am not aware of these things, Russian scammers could get away filing these things by stating the facts that they are making money scamming users, really strange to hear these things but i am not questioning these things as i am hearing for the first time and if they are scamming other countries they might not be having any legal issues.

I usually do not trust these advertisement and i am not surprised that that majority of the sites use shilling teams to promote their project and casino.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 24, 2021, 11:13:06 AM

Quote from: dunfida on September 23, 2021, 04:48:03 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 23, 2021, 04:42:28 PM

Not actually referrals but that's the sole purpose why they've hired those streamers to show their audiences how to do it with the casino they're advertising.
Yeah, sure, they'll get a good cut on it if the streamer himself got a large following and most of them are adults and are certainly into gambling. That's the type of marketing that they want and surely hitting their target and niche.

Its been a common thing when it comes to marketing aspect on where streamers with having lots of followers would really be significant or would really be enough on what they had been targeting on and of course

those advertisers would really be having some good cut specially if they would really bring up lots of users in the platforms.I dont see for it to be unethical or deceptive because you do have the

own will on making out decisions whether you do play or not basing up on what you had seen.

What's deceptive are those fake bets that are appearing on the casinos. That's the unethical way of getting more gamblers because they're showing that they've got lots of bets but in fact that they're all fake. For the streamers that do get cut, surely they do they a cut but it's still depending on the contract that they'll sign with the casino that they'll advertise through their own platforms and channels.

Unfortunately this is very common when it comes to advertising, do we really think that when a celebrity promotes a product that they actually use it? Most of the time this is not the case, they are promoting something just because they are paid to do so and many times this is even true for the brands that belong to them.

So something similar is happening here, with some casinos hiring Internet celebrities to promote their brand, is it deceptive? Yes and unfortunately casinos are not the only ones doing this.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 20, 2021, 02:06:44 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on September 20, 2021, 01:07:31 PM

Isn't this all for the sake of advertising, IMO, if the streamers fake those bets and have infinite funds to spend on the site due to xdeal, it's no longer our problem. Our faith, as gamblers, is still in our hands, and gambling platforms can never guarantee victories because it will always depend on our luck and ability to bet. Similar things happen in other advertising; some fake it for the sake of formality to make things look good, but don't expect it to be the same as yours because it will always depend on you. I still prioritize the gambling platform's benefits rather than those fake bets on videos and stream 'cause all I know about it is for only attracting gamblers that their platform is really good visually, but the wins and loses will always on your hands.

The fact remains and I agree with you, your own destination depends on how you play the game. Streamers may affect you with the belief that you may duplicate their luck, but it's your money that you need to be held responsible with. Paid streamers are there to promote, and if they are doing those fake bets, it's gamblers' responsibilities to balance everything.

Both wins and losses are always depending on how you play, and how you managed your activities, desiring to earn like how most streamers does is not bad, but make sure you understand all the possible risks that may happen to your bankroll.

Yeah, so we don't have to always complain because the advertisement differs from the real thing. Of course, advertisements exist to lure people to their gambling site, and your chances of winning or losing will now be determined by how you play and how much you wager. This is a fact that some people can accept, and I truly believe that individuals are simply greedy and desired a quick profit from a gambling platform with a high chance of winning. This isn't the case here; gambling will be determined by your luck and RNG level. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: AicecreaME on September 25, 2021, 08:04:01 AM

To be honest all of the advertisements in all fields, whether it's food, medicine, clothes, shoes, as well as gambling are not true at all. Advertisements purpose is to make people think it is real, but it's not for them to earn money while us don't get what we think we'll get. So most of you guys will think it's unfair, in my opinion it's not. We're just dumb to believe them without researching first about what they are promoting.

Unfortunately, people just think about gambling that gambling can give them money from playing various games. Many people follow other suggestions or promoting without further research, so they only get scam in the end. The advertisement itself always changes from time to time but new people can be the next victim. So whatever we watch on social media, do not just listen to them but always search for more to get the right thing about what they promote. If somehow, we feel that they do not give the right thing, we must leave it without searching for more.

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Quote from: tippytoes on September 24, 2021, 05:21:25 PM

I don't think these streamers will ever disclose how much they are getting paid. But if the streamer is a responsible one, he would not deceive his followers because sooner or later, their followers will soon realize about this deception and some of them may unsubscribe their channel. People talk and the word of mouth sometimes is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing.

Nothing's gonna happen when some people unsubscribe their channel because they keep getting new subscribers because of their videos.
Showing the high returns anyone can get lured into subscribing their channel.
The streamers won't care for their audience because they are already getting paid a good amount for doing the job.
All they care for is money. If they would care for their audience then they would not be making such videos/streams at first place.

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Quote from: michellee on September 25, 2021, 06:49:42 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 25, 2021, 02:45:24 AM

Quote from: michellee on September 25, 2021, 12:57:39 AM

Quote from: johhnyUA on September 24, 2021, 05:25:26 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on September 24, 2021, 05:21:25 PM

I don't think these streamers will ever disclose how much they are getting paid. But if the streamer is a responsible one, he would not deceive his followers because sooner or later, their followers will soon realize about this deception and some of them may unsubscribe their channel. People talk and the word of mouth sometimes is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing.

There is a lot of youtube bloggers scamming their subscribers and nothing is happen. Especially, russian bloggers are often tell this fact "in the face" to their auditory and nothing is changing for them.

So i'm doubt about reputation risks for such bloggers

So as an audience, we must filter and search for the other info to know if they will try to scam us or they serve good data. I only think about if they talk too much about what they do, it can show us if they lie to us or give a real fact about what they do. We can see about that after we watch some videos from them.

But out of that, they really make money from their channel and Youtube also pays them well, especially if they have a big subscriber.

This kind of vloggers are more into money making system they don't care about reputations as long as they can convert a decent amount of money. They are all okay doing it.

You need to be more careful as an audience never to believe without doing your own research it saves your butt being scam.

Use your common sense when dealing with this kind of streamers, even they've got a huge amount of followers and subscribers, it doesn't mean that they are reliable.

Hopefully, we can take care of ourselves when we watch those videos and never getting scam by them. Although they can change their method to trick the audiences, we can protect ourselves from them carefully. Hopefully, someone can report them to the developer and they will investigate if their content is something that can break their rule so those bloggers will get a warning from the developer.

To be honest all of the advertisements in all fields, whether it's food, medicine, clothes, shoes, as well as gambling are not true at all. Advertisements purpose is to make people think it is real, but it's not for them to earn money while us don't get what we think we'll get. So most of you guys will think it's unfair, in my opinion it's not. We're just dumb to believe them without researching first about what they are promoting.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 25, 2021, 02:45:24 AM

Quote from: michellee on September 25, 2021, 12:57:39 AM

Quote from: johhnyUA on September 24, 2021, 05:25:26 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on September 24, 2021, 05:21:25 PM

I don't think these streamers will ever disclose how much they are getting paid. But if the streamer is a responsible one, he would not deceive his followers because sooner or later, their followers will soon realize about this deception and some of them may unsubscribe their channel. People talk and the word of mouth sometimes is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing.

There is a lot of youtube bloggers scamming their subscribers and nothing is happen. Especially, russian bloggers are often tell this fact "in the face" to their auditory and nothing is changing for them.

So i'm doubt about reputation risks for such bloggers

So as an audience, we must filter and search for the other info to know if they will try to scam us or they serve good data. I only think about if they talk too much about what they do, it can show us if they lie to us or give a real fact about what they do. We can see about that after we watch some videos from them.

But out of that, they really make money from their channel and Youtube also pays them well, especially if they have a big subscriber.

This kind of vloggers are more into money making system they don't care about reputations as long as they can convert a decent amount of money. They are all okay doing it.

You need to be more careful as an audience never to believe without doing your own research it saves your butt being scam.

Use your common sense when dealing with this kind of streamers, even they've got a huge amount of followers and subscribers, it doesn't mean that they are reliable.

Hopefully, we can take care of ourselves when we watch those videos and never getting scam by them. Although they can change their method to trick the audiences, we can protect ourselves from them carefully. Hopefully, someone can report them to the developer and they will investigate if their content is something that can break their rule so those bloggers will get a warning from the developer.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on September 24, 2021, 07:55:59 AM

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Nah, it is actually understandable. With the tight competition, every online gambling website would always rely unto this kind of advertisement. This is the most effective way to lure and catch the interest of their target market.
Roobet might've dominated in adverising and promotion in this community, but it doesn't mean they have more volume of wagers compared to all other online crypto gambling websites.

well comparing to others roobet has a high wager , actually roobet is 1.5 million dollars away from hitting a 2 billion wager . https://roobet.com/

Comparing to others, yes! That's why I said "all" because there are actually a lot of gambling websites that has more than 2 billion wager count. Some aren't just transparent, and I find it a disadvantage from online gambling website who has been transparent with the number of wager and amount of wager places from a single player
And, that's actually the wagering count, not the wagered amount. So, I assume you mean Roobet is 1.5m wager away from hitting 2B.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on September 24, 2021, 05:25:26 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on September 24, 2021, 05:21:25 PM

I don't think these streamers will ever disclose how much they are getting paid. But if the streamer is a responsible one, he would not deceive his followers because sooner or later, their followers will soon realize about this deception and some of them may unsubscribe their channel. People talk and the word of mouth sometimes is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing.

There is a lot of youtube bloggers scamming their subscribers and nothing is happen. Especially, russian bloggers are often tell this fact "in the face" to their auditory and nothing is changing for them.

So i'm doubt about reputation risks for such bloggers

They are being paid and also earning from their viewers no matter how scammy things they are doing . so why the company suffers from their ruined reputations already?

and besides this is what the market is , and this is also how the internet is bringing us .

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Quote from: michellee on September 25, 2021, 12:57:39 AM

Quote from: johhnyUA on September 24, 2021, 05:25:26 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on September 24, 2021, 05:21:25 PM

I don't think these streamers will ever disclose how much they are getting paid. But if the streamer is a responsible one, he would not deceive his followers because sooner or later, their followers will soon realize about this deception and some of them may unsubscribe their channel. People talk and the word of mouth sometimes is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing.

There is a lot of youtube bloggers scamming their subscribers and nothing is happen. Especially, russian bloggers are often tell this fact "in the face" to their auditory and nothing is changing for them.

So i'm doubt about reputation risks for such bloggers

So as an audience, we must filter and search for the other info to know if they will try to scam us or they serve good data. I only think about if they talk too much about what they do, it can show us if they lie to us or give a real fact about what they do. We can see about that after we watch some videos from them.

But out of that, they really make money from their channel and Youtube also pays them well, especially if they have a big subscriber.

This kind of vloggers are more into money making system they don't care about reputations as long as they can convert a decent amount of money. They are all okay doing it.

You need to be more careful as an audience never to believe without doing your own research it saves your butt being scam.

Use your common sense when dealing with this kind of streamers, even they've got a huge amount of followers and subscribers, it doesn't mean that they are reliable.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on September 24, 2021, 05:25:26 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on September 24, 2021, 05:21:25 PM

I don't think these streamers will ever disclose how much they are getting paid. But if the streamer is a responsible one, he would not deceive his followers because sooner or later, their followers will soon realize about this deception and some of them may unsubscribe their channel. People talk and the word of mouth sometimes is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing.

There is a lot of youtube bloggers scamming their subscribers and nothing is happen. Especially, russian bloggers are often tell this fact "in the face" to their auditory and nothing is changing for them.

So i'm doubt about reputation risks for such bloggers

So as an audience, we must filter and search for the other info to know if they will try to scam us or they serve good data. I only think about if they talk too much about what they do, it can show us if they lie to us or give a real fact about what they do. We can see about that after we watch some videos from them.

But out of that, they really make money from their channel and Youtube also pays them well, especially if they have a big subscriber.

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Quote from: tippytoes on September 24, 2021, 05:21:25 PM

I don't think these streamers will ever disclose how much they are getting paid. But if the streamer is a responsible one, he would not deceive his followers because sooner or later, their followers will soon realize about this deception and some of them may unsubscribe their channel. People talk and the word of mouth sometimes is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing.

There is a lot of youtube bloggers scamming their subscribers and nothing is happen. Especially, russian bloggers are often tell this fact "in the face" to their auditory and nothing is changing for them.

So i'm doubt about reputation risks for such bloggers

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 24, 2021, 11:13:06 AM

Quote from: dunfida on September 23, 2021, 04:48:03 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 23, 2021, 04:42:28 PM

Not actually referrals but that's the sole purpose why they've hired those streamers to show their audiences how to do it with the casino they're advertising.
Yeah, sure, they'll get a good cut on it if the streamer himself got a large following and most of them are adults and are certainly into gambling. That's the type of marketing that they want and surely hitting their target and niche.

Its been a common thing when it comes to marketing aspect on where streamers with having lots of followers would really be significant or would really be enough on what they had been targeting on and of course

those advertisers would really be having some good cut specially if they would really bring up lots of users in the platforms.I dont see for it to be unethical or deceptive because you do have the

own will on making out decisions whether you do play or not basing up on what you had seen.

What's deceptive are those fake bets that are appearing on the casinos. That's the unethical way of getting more gamblers because they're showing that they've got lots of bets but in fact that they're all fake. For the streamers that do get cut, surely they do they a cut but it's still depending on the contract that they'll sign with the casino that they'll advertise through their own platforms and channels.

Everything would really be have corresponding agreements but its just between the casino and the streamer of course.I dont have much idea on what are the average pay or cuts on this one though.

Yeah,its true that it is way too unethical on being too deceptive in regards on what they are trying to advertise out but as a viewer and does really make use of their own common sense

then you can really spot out these things directly.

I don't think these streamers will ever disclose how much they are getting paid. But if the streamer is a responsible one, he would not deceive his followers because sooner or later, their followers will soon realize about this deception and some of them may unsubscribe their channel. People talk and the word of mouth sometimes is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 24, 2021, 11:13:06 AM

Quote from: dunfida on September 23, 2021, 04:48:03 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 23, 2021, 04:42:28 PM

Not actually referrals but that's the sole purpose why they've hired those streamers to show their audiences how to do it with the casino they're advertising.
Yeah, sure, they'll get a good cut on it if the streamer himself got a large following and most of them are adults and are certainly into gambling. That's the type of marketing that they want and surely hitting their target and niche.

Its been a common thing when it comes to marketing aspect on where streamers with having lots of followers would really be significant or would really be enough on what they had been targeting on and of course

those advertisers would really be having some good cut specially if they would really bring up lots of users in the platforms.I dont see for it to be unethical or deceptive because you do have the

own will on making out decisions whether you do play or not basing up on what you had seen.

What's deceptive are those fake bets that are appearing on the casinos. That's the unethical way of getting more gamblers because they're showing that they've got lots of bets but in fact that they're all fake. For the streamers that do get cut, surely they do they a cut but it's still depending on the contract that they'll sign with the casino that they'll advertise through their own platforms and channels.

Everything would really be have corresponding agreements but its just between the casino and the streamer of course.I dont have much idea on what are the average pay or cuts on this one though.

Yeah,its true that it is way too unethical on being too deceptive in regards on what they are trying to advertise out but as a viewer and does really make use of their own common sense

then you can really spot out these things directly.

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Quote from: dunfida on September 23, 2021, 04:48:03 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 23, 2021, 04:42:28 PM

Not actually referrals but that's the sole purpose why they've hired those streamers to show their audiences how to do it with the casino they're advertising.
Yeah, sure, they'll get a good cut on it if the streamer himself got a large following and most of them are adults and are certainly into gambling. That's the type of marketing that they want and surely hitting their target and niche.

Its been a common thing when it comes to marketing aspect on where streamers with having lots of followers would really be significant or would really be enough on what they had been targeting on and of course

those advertisers would really be having some good cut specially if they would really bring up lots of users in the platforms.I dont see for it to be unethical or deceptive because you do have the

own will on making out decisions whether you do play or not basing up on what you had seen.

What's deceptive are those fake bets that are appearing on the casinos. That's the unethical way of getting more gamblers because they're showing that they've got lots of bets but in fact that they're all fake. For the streamers that do get cut, surely they do they a cut but it's still depending on the contract that they'll sign with the casino that they'll advertise through their own platforms and channels.

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