FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 - page 10.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on September 12, 2019, 01:29:12 PM

I think France has a good chance now. I mean they will play with Argentina and I think Argentina played their best game and now will be eliminated, France looks strong and going very well with both a great team play but also awesome individual talents as well.

On the other side Australia and Spain are both amazing teams, they will beat each other and one of them will be eliminated anyway, doesn't matter which one, it is a shame that they will cancel each other out and only one will come up. That means France will play with a team who is tired after playing an amazing team and came all the way here whereas they will have the superb hype of beating USA and Argentinian which beat Serbia. Hence, from now on my favorite is France but this world cup has been wild so I don't know what will happen anymore.

France will have their best chance. On Argentina, Luis Scola is aged his age is 39 now I think but even so he is still a great player. He carried the team to victory against Serbia. On that game that's the least expected outcome I'm expecting. With Rudy Gobert plus Nando, the best pointguard in France plus Batum. They could have their chance.

On Australia and Spain, I think it's Australia's chance to defeat Spain. They are stacked team. Let's talk about the scrimmage that happened in Marvel Stadium. Australia defeated USA and USA defeated Spain. So the better odds could be on Australia this time.

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I think France has a good chance now. I mean they will play with Argentina and I think Argentina played their best game and now will be eliminated, France looks strong and going very well with both a great team play but also awesome individual talents as well.

On the other side Australia and Spain are both amazing teams, they will beat each other and one of them will be eliminated anyway, doesn't matter which one, it is a shame that they will cancel each other out and only one will come up. That means France will play with a team who is tired after playing an amazing team and came all the way here whereas they will have the superb hype of beating USA and Argentinian which beat Serbia. Hence, from now on my favorite is France but this world cup has been wild so I don't know what will happen anymore.

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This match Serbia USA should be final but both teams lost in QF match. Again this USA team was probably the worst so far. Think if they win or lose it would be worst place on WC for them ever. Shame, only good thing is that they are OG in Tokyo next year, while Serbia need to go qualifying round. Shame for them too as well in one point they had huge point advantage that I turn on to different channel.

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Quote from: efialtis on September 12, 2019, 07:20:55 AM

Its so funny, the US guys are being destroyed just now, lol. Bogdavonic on fire.

I know right. After the lost that made them lost the FIBA cup for medal, they lost their position for 4-6 rank. They shouldn't set their mind on their upset in my opinion after losing the medal. I mean they strive yes but in the first quarter, a 25 point lead? Well congrats anyway to Serbia that game.

Do you think it's a Pop curse? I mean, Pop is a good coach in the NBA but, in the world cup he's junk just by looking at the history of his coaching in worlds. 2002 6th place
2004 3rd with LeBron I think?
2019 Huh

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 12, 2019, 09:43:46 AM

Sebians beating the Americans is not what most fans wanted to see. Anyways, they have their excuse that their superstars are not playing. They are just like the Philippines that have a short period of preparation, not they take the toll of not having enough time to jell and have chemistry with heir teammates.

Time was not the only factor. Guys like brook Lopez and Mason Plumlee were on this team. These guys dont belong on the team. Myles Turner getting big minutes? These are the reasons they lost, they just threw a bunch of guys out there that were willing to play. Coach K leaving had a big impact on what players would play for the US and not play, K stepping down was a big part of this fiba nonsense

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 12, 2019, 11:31:04 AM

USA lost 2 times in a row - I can't remember such thing happening in past when USA have NBA only players in their roster. In general, this match was meaningless, but it's obvious that Serbia had more motivation today. Ok, maybe USA didn't had their best squad, but every loss of this team will be remembered even after 10-20 years - it's history.

Quote from: Ranly123 on September 12, 2019, 09:43:46 AM

Sebians beating the Americans is not what most fans wanted to see. Anyways, they have their excuse that their superstars are not playing. They are just like the Philippines that have a short period of preparation, not they take the toll of not having enough time to jell and have chemistry with heir teammates.

I thin most fans wanted to see failure of USA - people are just bored to see same team winning every tournament. And short preparation wasn't problem - they are simply not so good. In past their Dream Teams won against everyone by 30-40 point marging without any long preparations.

In the past America sent real ''dream teams'', not Team C or D like this year

Thanks to these defeats America will take competition much more seriously and send the right dream team for the Olympics next year.
We will watch the best basketball players again at the Olympics, and that is good for basketball and all of us.

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More opinions on tomorrows matches? I am going with the outsiders for sure - which are (in my opinion) not real outsiders. Australia can definitely make it and same goes for Argentina. Odds for both are great and definitely worth a shot.

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USA lost 2 times in a row - I can't remember such thing happening in past when USA have NBA only players in their roster. In general, this match was meaningless, but it's obvious that Serbia had more motivation today. Ok, maybe USA didn't had their best squad, but every loss of this team will be remembered even after 10-20 years - it's history.

Quote from: Ranly123 on September 12, 2019, 09:43:46 AM

Sebians beating the Americans is not what most fans wanted to see. Anyways, they have their excuse that their superstars are not playing. They are just like the Philippines that have a short period of preparation, not they take the toll of not having enough time to jell and have chemistry with heir teammates.

I thin most fans wanted to see failure of USA - people are just bored to see same team winning every tournament. And short preparation wasn't problem - they are simply not so good. In past their Dream Teams won against everyone by 30-40 point marging without any long preparations.

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Quote from: efialtis on September 12, 2019, 07:20:55 AM

Its so funny, the US guys are being destroyed just now, lol. Bogdavonic on fire.

Right now it's a close game you can watch it live here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P22ug0gzZfU the way Serbia is playing, they can beat the US team, they played a solid game with good ball rotation, if Serbia wins this is one of the worst finish by the US team.

we must move from the USA and Serbia. in the semi-finals, we have Francis and Argentina who have proven their ability to beat favorite teams.

if France is able to win from Argentina (one of the favorite teams) in the semifinals it is certain that they are the champions.

The odds actually look like this;

Of the four teams, Argentina is the very east to take the FIBA championship trophy. France is no doubt the leading favorite as they have 2 time NBA best defender Rudy Gobert. Spain is close second with their Ricky Rubio and Marc Gasol.

I placed a -4.5 points, $250 bet on Spain to win against the Aussies. Luck, please be with me tomorrow. Grin

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Quote from: aioc on September 12, 2019, 08:30:53 AM

Quote from: efialtis on September 12, 2019, 07:20:55 AM

Its so funny, the US guys are being destroyed just now, lol. Bogdavonic on fire.

Right now it's a close game you can watch it live here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P22ug0gzZfU the way Serbia is playing, they can beat the US team, they played a solid game with good ball rotation, if Serbia wins this is one of the worst finish by the US team.

we must move from the USA and Serbia. in the semi-finals, we have Francis and Argentina who have proven their ability to beat favorite teams.

if France is able to win from Argentina (one of the favorite teams) in the semifinals it is certain that they are the champions.

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Sebians beating the Americans is not what most fans wanted to see. Anyways, they have their excuse that their superstars are not playing. They are just like the Philippines that have a short period of preparation, not they take the toll of not having enough time to jell and have chemistry with heir teammates.

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Quote from: efialtis on September 12, 2019, 07:20:55 AM

Its so funny, the US guys are being destroyed just now, lol. Bogdavonic on fire.

What's funny about it? It's like in soccer if the US beats a germany team, when germany puts out its players that are fringe club players. International basketball will never be a comparable game. The only time the US really put out it's best team was in 92. This team checked out after the loss to france.

Side note, love jokics game. Watching him and jamal murray play for the next couple of years is gonna be a fun watch. Not many players in the world on jokic's level

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These Serbians has a lot of great shooters and they have a big giant, I think that giant also starred in the movie Parabellum, he is John Wicks's enemy in the library, anyway, the US is showing a lot of bad breaks, this game is going to go for the Serbians, totally outclassed.

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Quote from: aioc on September 12, 2019, 08:30:53 AM

Quote from: efialtis on September 12, 2019, 07:20:55 AM

Its so funny, the US guys are being destroyed just now, lol. Bogdavonic on fire.

Right now it's a close game you can watch it live here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P22ug0gzZfU the way Serbia is playing, they can beat the US team, they played a solid game with good ball rotation, if Serbia wins this is one of the worst finish by the US team.

Yeah, the Americans got their shit together after 32-7 for Serbs - now a close match and very interesting.

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Quote from: efialtis on September 12, 2019, 07:20:55 AM

Its so funny, the US guys are being destroyed just now, lol. Bogdavonic on fire.

Right now it's a close game you can watch it live here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P22ug0gzZfU the way Serbia is playing, they can beat the US team, they played a solid game with good ball rotation, if Serbia wins this is one of the worst finish by the US team.

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Its so funny, the US guys are being destroyed just now, lol. Bogdavonic on fire.

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My prediction for semi-final matches is victory of Argentina and Australia.
I watched both Argentina vs Serbia and United States vs France. However France did a great job and defeated the defending champions, United States, I expect they lose to Argentina.
Argentina has won all the previous matches by at least 10 points and I think they will remain undefeated and will qualify for the Final.
Also, Australia will overcome Spain. Spain performance has not been as good as I expected. They had some difficult wins even in the first group stage. Australia will win Spain and will face Argentina at the final.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on September 12, 2019, 03:14:35 AM

Quote from: slocker on September 12, 2019, 01:33:21 AM

Still can believe that both Serbia and USA lost the matches and that they will not play semis. Expected this to be semis but in the end they will play from 5-8 place. Really both team didn't play as they play, Serbia lost something that had but USA team play to confident that they will win more like they were on practice game then on the WC game.

Maybe you mean can't not can Grin

. Anyway, I feel the same thing, I knew that there are still tendencies for Serbia and even Greece to fall because they just seems overrated (but they lose earlier as what I expected) but for US getting the same tragic ending? It was impossible but it actually happened! What's going on!? Honestly, I am still having a hard time to sink in my mind that the invincible Dream Team lost. *sigh Well, the good side of this is that we can see a close match between the remaining contenders, there is a thrilling factor unlike the previous world cups where US was automatically expected as a champion lol.

Quote from: slocker on September 12, 2019, 01:33:21 AM

After this expect to see Argentina and Spain in finals.

Oops, don't conclude yet

. France beats US, remember? They prove to us that they are not an easy opponent. Everything could happen so expect the unexpected.

Right, France has the momentum going into the semis. They were up by ten against the defending champion and I think they can pull through their next opponent in this semis.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on September 12, 2019, 03:14:35 AM

Quote from: slocker on September 12, 2019, 01:33:21 AM

After this expect to see Argentina and Spain in finals.

Oops, don't conclude yet

. France beats US, remember? They prove to us that they are not an easy opponent. Everything could happen so expect the unexpected.

I won my bet on France when they defeated the USA, so I think they can also beat Argentina in the Semi Finals match.
France defeated USA by 10 points, and they are only -5.5 against Argentina, I think this line is a gift, I could take -6.5 for France as I know they can beat Argentina over 10 points.

@slocker , there's a reason why france is favorite against Argentina, so don't be too confident with your pick.

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Quote from: slocker on September 12, 2019, 01:33:21 AM

Still can believe that both Serbia and USA lost the matches and that they will not play semis. Expected this to be semis but in the end they will play from 5-8 place. Really both team didn't play as they play, Serbia lost something that had but USA team play to confident that they will win more like they were on practice game then on the WC game.

Maybe you mean can't not can Grin

. Anyway, I feel the same thing, I knew that there are still tendencies for Serbia and even Greece to fall because they just seems overrated (but they lose earlier as what I expected) but for US getting the same tragic ending? It was impossible but it actually happened! What's going on!? Honestly, I am still having a hard time to sink in my mind that the invincible Dream Team lost. *sigh Well, the good side of this is that we can see a close match between the remaining contenders, there is a thrilling factor unlike the previous world cups where US was automatically expected as a champion lol.

Quote from: slocker on September 12, 2019, 01:33:21 AM

After this expect to see Argentina and Spain in finals.

Oops, don't conclude yet

. France beats US, remember? They prove to us that they are not an easy opponent. Everything could happen so expect the unexpected.

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