FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 - page 12.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 11, 2019, 10:20:37 AM

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Congrats to France. It's not my team, but I wanted to see USA losing and I don't care which team won against them. Guys who said that USA will win World Cup even with 3rd or 4th squad, where are you now?
It was great match to watch, but France just played smarter and better basketball, while US tried to win match with individual skills. I didn't risked to bet on France before match, but I cought quite good live odds on their win.
Semifinals are going to be so interesting with no obvious favorites.

Whatta game we just saw. Incredible game by Gobert lifting his team to victory in the later part of the fourth quarter. I lost my bet on team USA to win the championship but at least right now we know that there will be another country to be the champion of the FIBAWC.

Thats a major upset right there, considering the young big names in the NBA playing for the USA. But, if you have to take a closer look, France really deserved that win, most of their NBA players have won DPOY throughout their NBA career which is very essential to the game.
Guess we will be watching out another set of superstars from the NBA playing for USA in the Olympics after this huge loss.

"Most of their players have won DPOY"...um huh? Yeah Rudy won it the last 2 years but what other french national player won defensive player of the year? Rudy is a beast no doubt but through the years I cant recall other french player winning spot (and dont come back and give me Noah)

Ok, I have used google for that and youre right. Gobert was the only player who have won DPOY, I just cant recall and I was thinking Batum became a candidate for the award. And please correct everyone who has wrong views, info, and insights towards basketball coz you seemed really a good sports analyst 😁

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 11, 2019, 04:35:21 PM

The nba nor the US did not "not send their best players". Players on their own accord decline to play in the tournament to focus on training for the upcoming season
Do NBA owners want their players possibly getting hurt, no, but it still comes down to the players declining not the NBA

That's absolutely right, it's a personal decision and let's not pretend, top players and superstars could give the slightest fuck about any World Cup competitions. I'm sure they'd rather have the off-season to work on their game, get rest or fully recover from a long season than to play international basketball v. no-names and risk getting injured (i.e PG13 '14). USAB should've let Jeff Van Gundy roam the World Cup with his G-League/overseas players. They were pretty competitive against this roster who lost to France earlier today.

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Quote from: Theb on September 11, 2019, 04:02:00 PM

I guessed we have to blame the NBA teams for USA's defeat against France. Only sending two notable players for their team which is Kemba Walker and Donnovan Mitchell won't be enough against Rudy Gobert and Evan Fournier. I know they fought toe-to-toe against this much and only the 4th quarter was the determining factor but that was enough for France to get the job done. Now France has a chance to take home another World Cup trophy, they already proven that they are a dominant team in Football now they can prove that they have a fantastic basketball team as well. This would have a different outcome if the USA only sent their best players but its their mistake thinking that what they have is enough.

The nba nor the US did not "not send their best players". Players on their own accord decline to play in the tournament to focus on training for the upcoming season
Do NBA owners want their players possibly getting hurt, no, but it still comes down to the players declining not the NBA

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 11, 2019, 11:43:59 AM

And then there's four...

Semi-Finals

Argentina vs. France
Spain vs. Australia

Maybe 99% of basketball fans and bettors didn't see this one coming. Let's all go back to the drawing board Cheesy

My wild guess is either Spain or Australia to be the champ.

Is there anyone still interested with the USA vs. Serbia match up? It'll finally happen tomorrow.

This was really shocking for me as I was expecting Spain vs USA but now look like We have new World Champion and most probably its Spain because right now they have best team and they can win against any opponent as USA is now out of World cup.

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I guessed we have to blame the NBA teams for USA's defeat against France. Only sending two notable players for their team which is Kemba Walker and Donnovan Mitchell won't be enough against Rudy Gobert and Evan Fournier. I know they fought toe-to-toe against this much and only the 4th quarter was the determining factor but that was enough for France to get the job done. Now France has a chance to take home another World Cup trophy, they already proven that they are a dominant team in Football now they can prove that they have a fantastic basketball team as well. This would have a different outcome if the USA only sent their best players but its their mistake thinking that what they have is enough.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 11, 2019, 12:05:03 PM

Quote from: morvillz7z on September 11, 2019, 11:39:55 AM

That's incorrect, the roster USAB have put together can in no way shape or form be called "the best NBA players". They have no superstars present only decent to good players aka third stringers. The US will need another redeem team next year for Tokyo Summer Olympics. Grin

If I am correct the only Olympic player ever played right now for the FIBA World Cup 2019 in USA roster is Harrison Barnes last 2016, yeah it's correct they are not the "best" to be called for. Hope they'll bring a 1992 and 2012 roster alike on the Tokyo Summer Olympics and I guess that's the time I will say that they are the best NBA players ever send to play.

The old roster of the USA team with the one in this world cup should not be compared.
Barnes is a good player but not so good like Harden, Durant or Curry, players that was members of the teams in previous tournaments.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 11, 2019, 12:05:03 PM

Quote from: morvillz7z on September 11, 2019, 11:39:55 AM

That's incorrect, the roster USAB have put together can in no way shape or form be called "the best NBA players". They have no superstars present only decent to good players aka third stringers. The US will need another redeem team next year for Tokyo Summer Olympics. Grin

If I am correct the only Olympic player ever played right now for the FIBA World Cup 2019 in USA roster is Harrison Barnes last 2016, yeah it's correct they are not the "best" to be called for. Hope they'll bring a 1992 and 2012 roster alike on the Tokyo Summer Olympics and I guess that's the time I will say that they are the best NBA players ever send to play.

Yeah most of these players couldnt scratch the allstar team. While we wish for another 1992 dream team that will never be matched again. Sorry but jordon, magic, bird, clyde, Ewing, etc you are talking multiple top 50 hell top 25 basketball players of alltime on the team.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on September 11, 2019, 11:39:55 AM

That's incorrect, the roster USAB have put together can in no way shape or form be called "the best NBA players". They have no superstars present only decent to good players aka third stringers. The US will need another redeem team next year for Tokyo Summer Olympics. Grin

If I am correct the only Olympic player ever played right now for the FIBA World Cup 2019 in USA roster is Harrison Barnes last 2016, yeah it's correct they are not the "best" to be called for. Hope they'll bring a 1992 and 2012 roster alike on the Tokyo Summer Olympics and I guess that's the time I will say that they are the best NBA players ever send to play.

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And then there's four...

Semi-Finals

Argentina vs. France
Spain vs. Australia

Maybe 99% of basketball fans and bettors didn't see this one coming. Let's all go back to the drawing board Cheesy

My wild guess is either Spain or Australia to be the champ.

Is there anyone still interested with the USA vs. Serbia match up? It'll finally happen tomorrow.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on September 11, 2019, 11:08:51 AM

I mean you have the best NBA players of a whole nation coming together

That's incorrect, the roster USAB have put together can in no way shape or form be called "the best NBA players". They have no superstars present only decent to good players aka third stringers. The US will need another redeem team next year for Tokyo Summer Olympics. Grin

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OH MY GOD!! USA LOST TO FRANCE. I have no idea how did this even happen. First we got Greece getting knocked out during the second stage. Then we get Serbia losing to Argentina, NOW US OF FREAKING A LOST TO FRANCE. This cup is really weird man, I have no idea how it even works anymore, I mean you have the best NBA players of a whole nation coming together and maaaybe 3 decent NBA players on the other team but they lost anyway.

It is incredible and I still can't believe how it happened, I have nothing to say. Whoever bet on France to win would have to be crazy (last I checked it was about 4.40 or so on moneyline) and they would be right now, would have mocked them before game starts but I am the mockery now. I can't believe it, I am stunned man.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 11, 2019, 10:25:04 AM

Great match and great victory for France.
Congratulation!
I think this is a very good thing for world basketball because it has been proven that Americans are not untouchable and from other planet.
It is very funny that instead of playing in the grand finale, as everyone announced, we will watch America and Serbia fight for fifth place Cheesy

Sometimes it is better to talk less and work harder and fight, as France and Argentina have beautifully shown.

It's expected, it only happens because the US team cannot get the best players in the NBA, this team selection does not have one single superstar here, I hope this is a wake-up call and they should send their best team in the next Olympic.

The US team should realize that other countries have their own basketball program and they need strong players but let's see the NBA superstars seems noncommital anymore on their participation in this kind of events.

Expecting that team US will bring their superstars this coming Tokyo Olympics after losing this FIBA world cup, NBA Superstars will be formed another dream team that will remove all the doubt that they are still the dominating country in terms of this sport. LeBron, KD, Kawhai, Curry, and Davis for the first five for sure fans all over the world will love this team US again and will forget this last performanced.

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Quote from: degen159 on September 11, 2019, 10:54:09 AM

usa does not have best players this year

To tell you the truth they don't have the best players compared to other USA teams in the past.
They have the best players in the tournament but they are not playing as a team. So this is the reason why they are not so strong compared to other national teams.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 11, 2019, 10:25:04 AM

Great match and great victory for France.
Congratulation!
I think this is a very good thing for world basketball because it has been proven that Americans are not untouchable and from other planet.
It is very funny that instead of playing in the grand finale, as everyone announced, we will watch America and Serbia fight for fifth place Cheesy

Sometimes it is better to talk less and work harder and fight, as France and Argentina have beautifully shown.

It's expected, it only happens because the US team cannot get the best players in the NBA, this team selection does not have one single superstar here, I hope this is a wake-up call and they should send their best team in the next Olympic.

The US team should realize that other countries have their own basketball program and they need strong players but let's see the NBA superstars seems noncommital anymore on their participation in this kind of events.

It's not that the US didnt want to send their good players it's that most of them decline to go. The nba season is grueling and for most of them it a real long season so they would rather focus on their goal to win an nba championship instead of the FIBA championship. Imagine a lineup of steph curry, harden, a Davis, durant and Kawhi on the floor together with lebron, etc on the bench. These games would be laughable. I kinda like seeing these young kids getting a chance on the international level and it evens out the competition

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 11, 2019, 10:25:04 AM

Great match and great victory for France.
Congratulation!
I think this is a very good thing for world basketball because it has been proven that Americans are not untouchable and from other planet.
It is very funny that instead of playing in the grand finale, as everyone announced, we will watch America and Serbia fight for fifth place Cheesy

Sometimes it is better to talk less and work harder and fight, as France and Argentina have beautifully shown.

It's expected, it only happens because the US team cannot get the best players in the NBA, this team selection does not have one single superstar here, I hope this is a wake-up call and they should send their best team in the next Olympic.

The US team should realize that other countries have their own basketball program and they need strong players but let's see the NBA superstars seems noncommital anymore on their participation in this kind of events.

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Great match and great victory for France.
Congratulation!
I think this is a very good thing for world basketball because it has been proven that Americans are not untouchable and from other planet.
It is very funny that instead of playing in the grand finale, as everyone announced, we will watch America and Serbia fight for fifth place Cheesy

Sometimes it is better to talk less and work harder and fight, as France and Argentina have beautifully shown.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 11, 2019, 09:03:02 AM

Quote from: Ranly123 on September 11, 2019, 08:33:01 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on September 11, 2019, 08:10:51 AM

Congrats to France. It's not my team, but I wanted to see USA losing and I don't care which team won against them. Guys who said that USA will win World Cup even with 3rd or 4th squad, where are you now?
It was great match to watch, but France just played smarter and better basketball, while US tried to win match with individual skills. I didn't risked to bet on France before match, but I cought quite good live odds on their win.
Semifinals are going to be so interesting with no obvious favorites.

Whatta game we just saw. Incredible game by Gobert lifting his team to victory in the later part of the fourth quarter. I lost my bet on team USA to win the championship but at least right now we know that there will be another country to be the champion of the FIBAWC.

Thats a major upset right there, considering the young big names in the NBA playing for the USA. But, if you have to take a closer look, France really deserved that win, most of their NBA players have won DPOY throughout their NBA career which is very essential to the game.
Guess we will be watching out another set of superstars from the NBA playing for USA in the Olympics after this huge loss.

"Most of their players have won DPOY"...um huh? Yeah Rudy won it the last 2 years but what other french national player won defensive player of the year? Rudy is a beast no doubt but through the years I cant recall other french player winning spot (and dont come back and give me Noah)

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 11, 2019, 06:02:47 AM

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I predict easy win for Australia by more than 10 points. Australia is more powerful than Czech Republic. I don't think Czech Republic is able to qualify for semi-final. Till now they have been a great team. But reaching qurter-finals is enough to them. Comparing Australia and Czech Republic performance in their past matches makes me think that Australia will overcome Czech Republic.

There is no such thing as an easy win on this stage of the tournament mate, teams that reaches the QF are no push-overs and besides too many so-called upsets have happen. On paper, Australia will dominate Czech Republic but it's not the same when they are already on the floor. Chinese crowd are pro-underdogs so expect Czech Republic to grind it out with the Aussies.

My prediction was correct. I had predicted the match to finish with victory of Australia by more than 10 points. (+10.5).
Australia 82 - 70 Czech Republic. Last minutes of the match for me was more stressful than people of Australia and Czech Republic
However I didn't expect United States lose the match against France.

By the way, Spain and France qualified for the Olympics.

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WTF is happening in this fucking world cup? All the top ranking teams are out (perhaps with the exception of Spain). We were hoping for a Serbia vs United States final. That match is going to happen tomorrow, but for the 5th to 8th place playoffs. All the heavyweight teams are out - United States, Serbia, Greece.etc. This world cup is so unpredictable. One of the craziest editions that I ever watched.

This is the semi-final lineup:

Spain vs Australia
France vs Argentina

I would be tempted to say that it is going to be cakewalk for Spain. But I am not going to repeat the mistake, after watching all those upsets. If Spain get thrashed by Australia in the semis, then the quorum will be complete.

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