FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 - page 14.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on September 11, 2019, 02:34:10 AM

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 10, 2019, 11:11:56 PM

Anyone betting on France to win against USA?

I'm thinking about it, I know USA will always be the favorites and the most hype team in FIBA, so we wont' be getting a good odds when we bet on USA as mostly their line is overvalued.

I might put my bet on france +8.5 and France ML, and some Any Team Winning Margin (incl. overtime) +31 with a good odds of 40, in case thing goes crazy, you know.

France is also playing a great basketball in this tournament.
It would be difficult for team USA to beat them and proceed to the final.
A bet for France is totally a value bet and gives good odds for france +8.5.

Given the way both teams are made up and the way they're playing, +8.5 on france seems to be a good wager. Team usa has seen weakness and if i get a +8.5 on any euro team they go up against, i'd gladly take it on. The us will team will have their hands full. I'm looking forward to seeng greece advance though i'd put them up against brazil.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 11, 2019, 03:22:59 AM

Quote from: stadus on September 11, 2019, 02:05:45 AM

I might put my bet on france +8.5 and France ML, and some Any Team Winning Margin (incl. overtime) +31 with a good odds of 40, in case thing goes crazy, you know.

Good bet as nobody is a sure winner on this crazy FIBA World Cup, x5 winning on ML is worth the risk while you have a safety net on the handicap in case the is close, for sure it will be as this is a sudden death affair.

I pass on this as i'm on the US side.

So you don't trust USA here to cover? just don't follow your favorite team, sometimes you have to beat against your favorite if yo feel that's the right thing to do. We all love USA here because they are the best team in this tournament but as a gambler, we have to decide if they can cover the spread of -8.5.

I suggest you put just a small amount, it's not really fun to watch without betting any small amount. hehehe, sorry for teasing .. Grin

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Quote from: stadus on September 11, 2019, 02:05:45 AM

I might put my bet on france +8.5 and France ML, and some Any Team Winning Margin (incl. overtime) +31 with a good odds of 40, in case thing goes crazy, you know.

Good bet as nobody is a sure winner on this crazy FIBA World Cup, x5 winning on ML is worth the risk while you have a safety net on the handicap in case the is close, for sure it will be as this is a sudden death affair.

I pass on this as i'm on the US side.

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Quote from: stadus on September 11, 2019, 02:05:45 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 10, 2019, 11:11:56 PM

Anyone betting on France to win against USA?

I'm thinking about it, I know USA will always be the favorites and the most hype team in FIBA, so we wont' be getting a good odds when we bet on USA as mostly their line is overvalued.

I might put my bet on france +8.5 and France ML, and some Any Team Winning Margin (incl. overtime) +31 with a good odds of 40, in case thing goes crazy, you know.

France is also playing a great basketball in this tournament.
It would be difficult for team USA to beat them and proceed to the final.
A bet for France is totally a value bet and gives good odds for france +8.5.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 10, 2019, 11:11:56 PM

Anyone betting on France to win against USA?

I'm thinking about it, I know USA will always be the favorites and the most hype team in FIBA, so we wont' be getting a good odds when we bet on USA as mostly their line is overvalued.

I might put my bet on france +8.5 and France ML, and some Any Team Winning Margin (incl. overtime) +31 with a good odds of 40, in case thing goes crazy, you know.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 10, 2019, 08:27:51 PM

Even if the US makes it to the semis, they are very likely to face a strong opponent in Argentina. If Argentina can kick out Serbia, why can't they do the same to the United States?

Nah, for sure it's okay for them to face a strong team simply because they are the strongest lol. Kidding aside, I believe everything could happen. You have a point, Argentina was able to beat a high quality team like Serbia so this means that it is not impossible for them to beat the Top 1 as well. Just make sure Campazzo will able to maintain his Zone tho (Kuroko no Basket reference).

Ps: i can't forget his back pass during the 1st quarter against Serbia. So lit af Shocked

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Anyone betting on France to win against USA?

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 10, 2019, 08:27:51 PM

If Argentina can kick out Serbia, why can't they do the same to the United States?

Team Argentina definitely had a confidence boost after knocking out on of the favorites and previously undefeated Serbia but this will all boil down to style of play and coaching strategies if the two will meet in the semis. There are instances when teams played great in their previous game and then completely sucks in the next.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 10, 2019, 01:12:43 PM

I am really surprised that Serbia lost the second game in this championship in the short run and that after a very convincing start, they now lost all chances of winning a medal and playing a grand final with America.
There were even expectations that they were the only ones who could surprise America and beat them.
What a twist.
Can any of the remaining teams surprise America and beat them?

Even the coach of Serbia is very confident that they will win in this tournament but they receive an upset from the Argentinians Cheesy

. Argentinia can upset the USA too with how they play. Scola knows how these NBA players play since he played too in NBA and along with other players, I think they can upset the USA. Now the hype is on the Argentinians since they defeated Serbia Cheesy

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To be honest, there is a slight chance that Argentinia and Spain/Australia will play in the Finals Cheesy

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After all the upsets that we had, I won't be really surprised if the United States crashes out of the tournament after losing to France today in the quarter-finals. What makes them any different from Serbia and Greece? The other match is going to be really one sided, and I have a feeling that Australia is going to mop the floor with Czech Republic.

Even if the US makes it to the semis, they are very likely to face a strong opponent in Argentina. If Argentina can kick out Serbia, why can't they do the same to the United States? Spain will be facing a tough challenge from Australia, and it is the same team that beat the United States during a preparatory match before the world cup.

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Australia is seriously underrated. I think a lot of people are discounting them from contention and mentioning other names like Serbia, which is fair, but honestly they have as good of a chance as anyone to win gold.

Team chemistry is a serious issue that a lot of teams sorely lack, while this Australian team has been around for a decade without much of a change. You see that through Bogut's mid post game as well as aggressive cutting from all of their guards, and it's quite evident to me that they just like playing with each other.

Either way, FIBA had turned out to be a much better experience than I would have expected for sure.

Turns out team USA withdrawals have made all the positive difference.

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Quote from: sunsilk on September 10, 2019, 05:59:19 PM

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Quote from: sunsilk on September 09, 2019, 06:16:16 PM

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In any sports there are always a questionable calls, but it's their job so let's trust them to do their job, besides those if there are lot of complaints, it will be reviewed by the committee and this will affect the future of the refs with lots of questionable calls in the game.

We know this is a big stage as each country are competing to win, therefore it's expected that they will complain if they don't feel the call is fair.
Also, I think there are corrupt refs here as we know how big the money is involve in online betting, other sports are rigged, I don't like to put exemption to this event.

About the corrupt referees, it didn't think about it as FIBA won't allow someone that's committed with other activities that can affect their referees decision. I think there's certain screening for each of them and they are aware of online gambling.

Anyway, the committee has already decided and they have given certain punishment already so let's move on. Wink

Even if they will do a good screening technique, yo cannot assure that the refs are fully honest, human by nature are greedy, when they see some opportunity to make money and improve their living, they will somehow be tempted even making such action even if its illegal.

The catch here is they can do wrong calls but they can still justify it, if they will not get caught, they will continue to make money.
Not even the refs actually if we will go further in rigging sports, players can also bet on themselves and against themselves and win big money in sports betting, that is hard to see and therefore cannot be controlled, as long as their online gambling, we can't expect a clean officiating.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 09, 2019, 06:30:39 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on September 09, 2019, 06:16:16 PM

~snip~

In any sports there are always a questionable calls, but it's their job so let's trust them to do their job, besides those if there are lot of complaints, it will be reviewed by the committee and this will affect the future of the refs with lots of questionable calls in the game.

We know this is a big stage as each country are competing to win, therefore it's expected that they will complain if they don't feel the call is fair.
Also, I think there are corrupt refs here as we know how big the money is involve in online betting, other sports are rigged, I don't like to put exemption to this event.

About the corrupt referees, it didn't think about it as FIBA won't allow someone that's committed with other activities that can affect their referees decision. I think there's certain screening for each of them and they are aware of online gambling.

Anyway, the committee has already decided and they have given certain punishment already so let's move on. Wink

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 10, 2019, 05:21:09 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on September 10, 2019, 01:12:43 PM

I am really surprised that Serbia lost the second game in this championship in the short run and that after a very convincing start, they now lost all chances of winning a medal and playing a grand final with America.
There were even expectations that they were the only ones who could surprise America and beat them.
What a twist.
Can any of the remaining teams surprise America and beat them?

There are just too much hype on the Serbia team. Some said they can take on the championship in this tournament but they failed. The window for team USA to win the championship widened as there are only few teams remainined. My prediction is it would be Australia against USA in the finals and USA will win +10 againsthe Aussies.

The two best team that people think could beat USA is now out in the competition, the way Serbia played in the quarter finals shows their lack of quality, LOL.. Now the Philippines can take a revenge because Serbia coach critcize the Philippine team saying the team lacks quality while the Philippines were able to compete with Argentina during the 2014 FIba world cup.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 10, 2019, 01:12:43 PM

I am really surprised that Serbia lost the second game in this championship in the short run and that after a very convincing start, they now lost all chances of winning a medal and playing a grand final with America.
There were even expectations that they were the only ones who could surprise America and beat them.
What a twist.
Can any of the remaining teams surprise America and beat them?

There are just too much hype on the Serbia team. Some said they can take on the championship in this tournament but they failed. The window for team USA to win the championship widened as there are only few teams remainined. My prediction is it would be Australia against USA in the finals and USA will win +10 againsthe Aussies.

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Quote from: stadus on September 09, 2019, 11:37:14 PM

Quote from: hulla on September 09, 2019, 11:13:07 PM

This year FIBA tournament is full of surprises because sometimes the team ones least expected turn out to be the winner of the game but I'm sure today's quarter-final is a loss for the Argentine.

You can't be sure, Serbia is still one of the best tea in the FIBA per ranking but they loss one game already, so this means they aren't unbeatable.
This is a quarter finals where we will see a more intense game and I don't think the Argentine will just give up easily here already Serbians are have one of the best players in the NBA.

We have to remember, Giannis and his team failed to qualify to this round and they were one of the favorites to win this competition, so we never know what would really happen, let's just put our bet here.

The Serbians do have one of the best players in the NBA but I don't say they are uneaten or the best team. I only predicted them to win today's game which they loose to the Argentine.

Quote from: Daniel91 on September 10, 2019, 01:12:43 PM

I am really surprised that Serbia lost the second game in this championship in the short run and that after a very convincing start, they now lost all chances of winning a medal and playing a grand final with America.
There were even expectations that they were the only ones who could surprise America and beat them.
What a twist.
Can any of the remaining teams surprise America and beat them?

It heartbreaking cause I expected them to win the game against the Argentine but the Argentine prove they are experienced despite the fact that they don't have any player in the NBA and I really respect how Campazzo played today.

My prediction for tomorrow game
USA vs FRA : USA win
AUS vs CZE : AUS win

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I am really surprised that Serbia lost the second game in this championship in the short run and that after a very convincing start, they now lost all chances of winning a medal and playing a grand final with America.
There were even expectations that they were the only ones who could surprise America and beat them.
What a twist.
Can any of the remaining teams surprise America and beat them?

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Quote from: lixer on September 10, 2019, 11:31:49 AM

My guesses would be : USA beating France easily, Serbia will have hard time but will probably beat Argentina, Australia will beat Chezchia and Spain will beat Poland. Some of them are closer than the others and some are really hard to figure out.

For example, I am pretty certain that USA will beat France, and Spain will beat Poland, those are looking like sure fire bets however when it comes to Chezchia versus Australia, normally Australia is much better team and they have been playing greatly so far, yet Checzhia was looked down upon and was guessed to not even move out of the group stages yet they are here in quarter finals so I don't know what could happen.

Same with Serbia versus Argentina, it will be the rematch of 2002 which would be really fired up game, Serbia is certainly the better team and will want to win after the Spain upset but Argentina is not a bad team neither.

This is just a perfect example of shit-posting without having any clue whatsoever... lol... and then participating in a rather high paying sig campaign... When you posted this, the match between Serbia and Argentina was long over dude... and I bet you havent watched a single match so far, lol. Sorry but I had to say that now, dont want to offend anyone personally...

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Quote from: lixer on September 10, 2019, 11:31:49 AM

My guesses would be : USA beating France easily, Serbia will have hard time but will probably beat Argentina, Australia will beat Chezchia and Spain will beat Poland. Some of them are closer than the others and some are really hard to figure out.

For example, I am pretty certain that USA will beat France, and Spain will beat Poland, those are looking like sure fire bets however when it comes to Chezchia versus Australia, normally Australia is much better team and they have been playing greatly so far, yet Checzhia was looked down upon and was guessed to not even move out of the group stages yet they are here in quarter finals so I don't know what could happen.

Same with Serbia versus Argentina, it will be the rematch of 2002 which would be really fired up game, Serbia is certainly the better team and will want to win after the Spain upset but Argentina is not a bad team neither.

I guess this is a little bit outdated with what @bryant.coleman just recently replied in this thread, anyways, that's really unexpected for Argentina even though they haven't had any NBA player at the moment (though they are that caliber). It makes me laugh and wonder why there are two Scola's in these poster? https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/team/Argentina#tab=profile,average_statistics (is that there secret being undefeated?)

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My guesses would be : USA beating France easily, Serbia will have hard time but will probably beat Argentina, Australia will beat Chezchia and Spain will beat Poland. Some of them are closer than the others and some are really hard to figure out.

For example, I am pretty certain that USA will beat France, and Spain will beat Poland, those are looking like sure fire bets however when it comes to Chezchia versus Australia, normally Australia is much better team and they have been playing greatly so far, yet Checzhia was looked down upon and was guessed to not even move out of the group stages yet they are here in quarter finals so I don't know what could happen.

Same with Serbia versus Argentina, it will be the rematch of 2002 which would be really fired up game, Serbia is certainly the better team and will want to win after the Spain upset but Argentina is not a bad team neither.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 10, 2019, 10:50:02 AM

Feeling quite devastated after the exit by Serbia. They were my favorites and now they are gone. Still can't come to terms with the final result. Argentina not just beat Serbia, but they also defeated them by a good margin. I don't know what happened to them, after such a good start in the tournament. Two consecutive defeats - first one to Spain and the second against Argentina.

Now we are left with just Spain to pose a major challenge to the United States. I don't have much hopes for Australia and Argentina. The chances for US have brightened, and Spain is the only team that could prevent them winning this edition of the world cup. Feels bad for teams such as Serbia and Greece... they fought hard... without any luck.

I dont think that Serbia would have matched up well vs the US anyway. This isnt by far the best US but I do like the way they have looked recently. US teams get stronger with each game they play
Remember most of these teams play together every year, with the US it's pretty much a new team each tournament so it takes a little while to get. If the US put their best players on the court each year it wouldn't even be fair.

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