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legendary
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September 14, 2019, 08:28:44 AM
The 7th place match is nearing completion, and right now the United States is leading by 10 points (70-60) against Poland. May be the win will act as a consolation after the two humiliating defeats. And hopefully, the selectors will pick a full strength national side for the next world cup (2023). The absence of NBA stars proved to be very costly for the US team.

I dont get why people keep saying the same thing over and over.  It's not the "selectors" that put together this team.  The "selectors" went after 35 people and only 4 are on the team.  The players declined to play.  Peoe like Mason plumlee dont even belong starting on an nba team let alone paying for a national select team.
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September 14, 2019, 08:17:19 AM
It is somewhat kind of surprising that people here are all talking about Gasol as the MVP. Did you guys watch the games or just having fun talking about FIBA basketball here?  Huh Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Because if I am not mistaken, Ricky Rubio is Spain's main man. He leads the scoring, he plays high level on defense, he is leading on assists and is setting the play. He is the most intellegent guy on the Spanish rooster.
I'm rooting for Rubio as well. Checking and comparing the stats would show the difference between the two.

--> https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/playerstats

Rubio ranks 19.

Gasol ranks 28.

I admire Gasol and his contribution but the stats don't lie.

And also there's still Scola who's at the top of two but we'll see who will take the crown tomorrow.
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The Martian Child
September 14, 2019, 08:07:09 AM
It is somewhat kind of surprising that people here are all talking about Gasol as the MVP. Did you guys watch the games or just having fun talking about FIBA basketball here?  Huh Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Because if I am not mistaken, Ricky Rubio is Spain's main man. He leads the scoring, he plays high level on defense, he is leading on assists and is setting the play. He is the most intellegent guy on the Spanish rooster.
legendary
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September 14, 2019, 07:56:51 AM
The United States finish the tournament with a win, as they defeat Poland 87-74 to secure the 7th place. Still they wasted 6 out of the 19 free throws. In around two hours from now, Serbia will be taking on the Czech Republic, for the 5th place playoffs. It is very ironical that two teams who were the favorites to win the tournament are now playing for the 7th place and 5th place respectively...
It is very ironical indeed especially for Serbia who is very confident in winning in this year's FIBA world cup. I tried to bet on Poland on Money Line but just a few amount but lucky I bet on them with +19.0 and won Cheesy.

The Czechs have a 9 pt lead going to the Half time. I thought that the Serbia will win easily on this but I think its the reverse of it. I bet on Czechs with 6.29 Money Line and +11.5 spread Cheesy.
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September 14, 2019, 07:42:26 AM
Who do you guys think will win the tournament MVP? In Argentina, nobody deserves it more than Scola. Who do you pick for Spain? After his semi-finals performance, I am leaning towards Gasol.


Obviously that is Gasol as he contributes a lot why they are in the Finals now.
But this kind of tournament, getting an MVP recognition is not so important especially if it will be Gasol because he was already recognize as one of the best players in the NBA and an NBA champion already.

What't bigger recognition here is to represent your country and you bring honor to your country to bring home the championship, and the whole team deserves it, even if you are just a bench players.
It has to think of another name but what Gasol did this competition is something we have also to mention his name back then and he probably deserves such recognization and praises. As I would like to see Spain wins the final round, but Argentina still aggressive and also they are working it hard to sustain their momentum and I really don't think that they will easily lose the ball.
legendary
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September 14, 2019, 07:16:02 AM
Who do you guys think will win the tournament MVP? In Argentina, nobody deserves it more than Scola. Who do you pick for Spain? After his semi-finals performance, I am leaning towards Gasol.


Obviously that is Gasol as he contributes a lot why they are in the Finals now.
But this kind of tournament, getting an MVP recognition is not so important especially if it will be Gasol because he was already recognize as one of the best players in the NBA and an NBA champion already.

What't bigger recognition here is to represent your country and you bring honor to your country to bring home the championship, and the whole team deserves it, even if you are just a bench players.
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September 14, 2019, 06:48:10 AM
Who do you guys think will win the tournament MVP? In Argentina, nobody deserves it more than Scola. Who do you pick for Spain? After his semi-finals performance, I am leaning towards Gasol.


If Spain wins, it would definitely be Gasol. His performance in this FIBAWC is superb even in the semis, he score 30 points that I think is the highest made in the tournament this year.
sr. member
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September 14, 2019, 05:46:29 AM
Who do you guys think will win the tournament MVP? In Argentina, nobody deserves it more than Scola. Who do you pick for Spain? After his semi-finals performance, I am leaning towards Gasol.
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The Martian Child
September 14, 2019, 05:29:06 AM
So I still have 26 hours to decide on which of the odds should I pick. I like Argentina +3.5. +4.5 on Argentina at 1.85 looks good too.

Argentina averages 88 points per game compared to Spain's 79. Spain's main scorer is Rubio which is a actually bad on the 3 point lane. Spain is a defensive team but so is France with 2 time defensive player Rudy Gobert. Spain will have massive height advantage. Argentina will be small with a 5'10 point guard and 6'9 big men.

What is your own analysis on the upcoming finals guys? Good insights will be of big help. Grin
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September 14, 2019, 04:52:04 AM
The United States finish the tournament with a win, as they defeat Poland 87-74 to secure the 7th place. Still they wasted 6 out of the 19 free throws. In around two hours from now, Serbia will be taking on the Czech Republic, for the 5th place playoffs. It is very ironical that two teams who were the favorites to win the tournament are now playing for the 7th place and 5th place respectively...
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September 14, 2019, 04:29:39 AM
When the tournament started, no one really expected Argentina to even reach the quarter-finals. They were placed in a tough group along with Russia and Nigeria and during the second round, they had to face Poland and Venezuela. Even if the had their chances during these stages, no one would have believed them to defeat Serbia during the quarterfinals.

The defeat of Serbia by Argentina was perhaps the most important upset in this tournament, ranking even higher than the match between the United States and France. This may be the only time when all the top 3 sides (United States, Serbia and Greece) failed to qualify for the semifinals. Greece was unable to quality even for the QF, despite the presence of Giannis Antetokounmpo.
It was really unexpected. My dad was not able to watch this year's FIBA World Cup very much so I take the liberty to tell him what's happening especially at this point about who will be battling in the finals. And when I told him that Argentina beat Serbia, he was really shocked. He just thought that Serbia will go through the finals. But some things really don't happen as expected.

Also, I think it doesn't matter that much if there is a star player in a team or there is a famous one in a team. Because at the end of the day, there's no "i" in "team" and their teamwork is what will pay off.

Exactly, Argentina won because they don't rely on stars, if you watch them playing, you will see they are really confident and they are even having fun playing with the France while the France struggled to score.

Scola did great in every game, and I think after this, its guaranteed that he will  be back in the NBA, and maybe some players within the squad will have a chance to be evaluated also. Facundo CAMPAZZO is a great PG, when he is handling the ball, you know he can make big plays, I just want him to be in the NBA as well although his height is only  5'10".
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September 14, 2019, 04:24:04 AM
The 7th place match is nearing completion, and right now the United States is leading by 10 points (70-60) against Poland. May be the win will act as a consolation after the two humiliating defeats. And hopefully, the selectors will pick a full strength national side for the next world cup (2023). The absence of NBA stars proved to be very costly for the US team.
sr. member
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September 14, 2019, 01:23:34 AM
When the tournament started, no one really expected Argentina to even reach the quarter-finals. They were placed in a tough group along with Russia and Nigeria and during the second round, they had to face Poland and Venezuela. Even if the had their chances during these stages, no one would have believed them to defeat Serbia during the quarterfinals.

The defeat of Serbia by Argentina was perhaps the most important upset in this tournament, ranking even higher than the match between the United States and France. This may be the only time when all the top 3 sides (United States, Serbia and Greece) failed to qualify for the semifinals. Greece was unable to quality even for the QF, despite the presence of Giannis Antetokounmpo.
It was really unexpected. My dad was not able to watch this year's FIBA World Cup very much so I take the liberty to tell him what's happening especially at this point about who will be battling in the finals. And when I told him that Argentina beat Serbia, he was really shocked. He just thought that Serbia will go through the finals. But some things really don't happen as expected.

Also, I think it doesn't matter that much if there is a star player in a team or there is a famous one in a team. Because at the end of the day, there's no "i" in "team" and their teamwork is what will pay off.
legendary
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September 13, 2019, 11:04:12 PM
When the tournament started, no one really expected Argentina to even reach the quarter-finals. They were placed in a tough group along with Russia and Nigeria and during the second round, they had to face Poland and Venezuela. Even if the had their chances during these stages, no one would have believed them to defeat Serbia during the quarterfinals.

The defeat of Serbia by Argentina was perhaps the most important upset in this tournament, ranking even higher than the match between the United States and France. This may be the only time when all the top 3 sides (United States, Serbia and Greece) failed to qualify for the semifinals. Greece was unable to quality even for the QF, despite the presence of Giannis Antetokounmpo.
hero member
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September 13, 2019, 10:36:08 PM
I'm going with France and Australia now, small bet on Australia.
I much prefer now betting w/out handicap, I'm rekt from  my previous bets with handicap, those odds is really tempting but the risk is pretty awful, lol..
Goodluck again  Cheesy

This is what I meant once you put money on France Moneyline even they have the higher chances to win, in case of a win, low returns, in case of a lose, much hurtful.

But your money on Australia fights till the end.

I will pass on today's match and will put my money on the last round, the finals.
It's worth the risk anyway, Aussie have good players and have the mindset of trying to win each game that they've got placing small bets with handicap +1.5 can double your bet, for sure it will be a good game between this two teams both are doing well from this tournament and deserve the position from this world cup. In the other side, Spain is the favorite to win this tournament though we see a lots of upset but basing from how they've reached this finals, it can be a good value for your money picking carefully with high hopes to win.
legendary
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September 13, 2019, 07:12:16 PM
I'm going with France and Australia now, small bet on Australia.
I much prefer now betting w/out handicap, I'm rekt from  my previous bets with handicap, those odds is really tempting but the risk is pretty awful, lol..
Goodluck again  Cheesy

This is what I meant once you put money on France Moneyline even they have the higher chances to win, in case of a win, low returns, in case of a lose, much hurtful.

But your money on Australia fights till the end.

I will pass on today's match and will put my money on the last round, the finals.
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September 13, 2019, 05:37:19 PM
My black horse Australia has been defeated. I just thought they would win that match against Spain before that overtime. It was just Mills free throw that coat them the game. Anyways, Spain is now the favorite to win the championship against Argentina. Can the Argentinians have a higher chance of making an upset with this powerhouse team of Spain?

According to the announcer in the game between Argentina and France, this Argentina team is like the cinderalla story, therefore I would go with them, they could win another championship after a long time, they are last champion in this tournament last 1950 and I think this is the first start of the tournament.

List of all time medalist are found here :

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/alltimemedalists
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September 13, 2019, 05:27:36 PM
My black horse Australia has been defeated. I just thought they would win that match against Spain before that overtime. It was just Mills free throw that coat them the game. Anyways, Spain is now the favorite to win the championship against Argentina. Can the Argentinians have a higher chance of making an upset with this powerhouse team of Spain?
legendary
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September 13, 2019, 05:11:30 PM
Argentina: 8.670

1 more push from the underdog Argentina.

I'm expecting a close fight from much dominant France but looks like they feel comfortable after beating Team USA. They have seen more determined and aggressive during their match against the tournament's favorites but on this game against Argentina, hmmm. They didn't even cover the given handicap spread. Congrats to those who put risks to these underdogs Argentinian team earlier.

And now from 8.67 for Argentina, now down to 2.3. Good thing I able to place yesterday on that high odds. Good luck to my risky pick as Spain is really the favorites here.
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September 13, 2019, 04:58:12 PM
Spain goes to finals! but still what a nice game for Australia who brought a tremendous tough fight for Spain.

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Full-time: Spain 95-88 Australia

Ay, ay, ay! What a tense and tumultuous game of basketball!

When it mattered most it was the European powerhouses who stepped up a gear. Marc Gasol. What a player.

And Australia’s winning run is over - Spain go through to the gold-medal game of the 2019 Basketball World Cup!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2019/sep/13/fiba-basketball-world-cup-2019-semi-final-spain-v-australia-live
Honestly, I respect Australia because they really played a wonderful game against Spain but Spain was able to handle the game till the end. With that been said, I never expect the Argentine would beat France due to the level they handle to the USA when they met them at the quarter-final like I said a couple of days this year tournament is full of surprises.
We already have many surprises now time for good and quality Basketball and as Spain performing through out look like they are going to have this years crown and Argentina is also doing good but they are not enough to handle Spain. Still I am very happy as we have many exciting matches and no one was expecting we have teams like France and Australia in Semi finals.
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