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A team such as Brazil should not give the excuse of injury. If they are saying that absence of Neymar negatively impacting them, then they are relegating themselves to the level of Portugal, Belgium or Norway who are dependent on just one player. Argentina for example may not face much difficulty in winning matches even if Lionel Messi is absent. This is not something that we would expect from Brazil, who dominated association football for a long time. They have time till 2024 September to sort out the issues. If they are unable to do that even by that date, then things are not going to turn out well for them.

It is very unfortunate when Brazil makes this statement. In the past, Brazil was a collection of world football legends. Their 11 players are the best in the world. How can they now make statements as if they are very worried about Neymar's injury? I remember that Brazil didn't have a problem when Ronaldo or Roberto Carlos were injured because they had lots of legends.

Argentina is currently the best team in South America. I see that they don't really depend on Messi. Messi does have an impact but I see it more as motivation to play when they have Messi. There's nothing like relying the entire team on Messi.
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It's true, injury cannot be used as an excuse for defeat and I agree with that opinion. Even if you look at the depth of the squad that Brazil currently has, by playing only second-tier players they can secure a slot to escape the CONMEBOL zone. I think that if Ancelotti signing is actually realized, Brazil will be considered a favorite team in the 2026 edition, even though their current situation is far from good.

A team such as Brazil should not give the excuse of injury. If they are saying that absence of Neymar negatively impacting them, then they are relegating themselves to the level of Portugal, Belgium or Norway who are dependent on just one player. Argentina for example may not face much difficulty in winning matches even if Lionel Messi is absent. This is not something that we would expect from Brazil, who dominated association football for a long time. They have time till 2024 September to sort out the issues. If they are unable to do that even by that date, then things are not going to turn out well for them.
In a normal sense in think that they don't have to be depending on one particular player, depending on a particular player I think its not what makes Brazil to lose the match, even lionel Messi didn't even participate very well in that match and even though Messi was not present in the match Argentina would have defeated Brazil, or should I say that since this people didn't see Neymar the presence of Messi make them to be scared, so that's not good excuse, even though Neymar is absent at least they would have make the match to be draw, so Brazil knows what they did.
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It's true, injury cannot be used as an excuse for defeat and I agree with that opinion. Even if you look at the depth of the squad that Brazil currently has, by playing only second-tier players they can secure a slot to escape the CONMEBOL zone. I think that if Ancelotti signing is actually realized, Brazil will be considered a favorite team in the 2026 edition, even though their current situation is far from good.

A team such as Brazil should not give the excuse of injury. If they are saying that absence of Neymar negatively impacting them, then they are relegating themselves to the level of Portugal, Belgium or Norway who are dependent on just one player. Argentina for example may not face much difficulty in winning matches even if Lionel Messi is absent. This is not something that we would expect from Brazil, who dominated association football for a long time. They have time till 2024 September to sort out the issues. If they are unable to do that even by that date, then things are not going to turn out well for them.
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Brazil, though, currently their important players are not performing very well due to injuries. But I think they still have a chance to climb the points table for the World Cup qualifiers and if they can do well in the next matches then they will definitely qualify for the World Cup in 2026. If their key stars are injury free, then surely the team will be stronger and have their names in the World Cup qualifiers. Although Brazil is an expensive team, their current performance has kept them from reaching the semi-finals so far, which is unfortunate for them. However, with the current eleven, they will never be selected for the 2026 World Cup, that's why they must have experienced players in the team, only then Brazil can go to the World Cup qualifiers.
This is really sad for the Brazilian team. They now have to settle the equation for the 2026 World Cup. While Brazil is such a strong team, maybe they will be number 1 to 2 in the qualifiers, never thought that they will be number 5. Brazil's game against Argentina saw several key players absent from the field. An important player like Neymar could not play due to injury. Maybe if Neymar was on the field then maybe the result of the match could have been something different. Of course, I want the Brazilian team to play well in the next matches of the qualifiers. If they play well, they will secure the 2026 World Cup. Best wishes for the Brazilian team.
There is no doubt about Brazilian quality and performance on decline with their recent form is also concern for them management in Brazil, but now we have more than 33 months in next world cup and now next qualifier is going to play in September 2024 mean a long time for them to think about this all and bring improvement I never thought Brazil can miss World Cup main event just because of the qualifiers because as mentioned above we have six teams from CONMEBOL, and then we will have one extra half slot mean things are favorable for them to go into main round without any problem.

With this all we still have many matches in these qualifiers as well which can bring improvement into their spot for the qualifiers and Neymar could be also available if he recovers from his injury with few other injured players could be also take part into games which will boost their performance.
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Brazil is ranked 6th and has only managed to secure 7 points in 6 matches from a total of 18 matches. I am optimistic that next year, precisely in September, they will experience an improvement in performance and maintain their hopes of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup. Several players in the main squad suffered injuries, which was the main factor in Brazil losing their previous three matches. If Ancelotti does not extend his contract with Madrid, then I think there will be an improvement in the squad.

If they manage to improve their performance, then good for them. Else we will witness the rare occasion where Brazil fails to qualify for the world cup. BTW, injury should not be taken as an excuse. Brazil is not the only team that has been impacted by injury issues. The fact that they don't have sufficient backup for their main players exposes their lack of depth in player pool. Brazil's performance during Qatar 2022 was horrendous. And looking at their performance so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers, I don't have much hope for the FIFA World Cup of 2026 either.
The concern for Brazil fans is whether the former five-time World Cup winners will qualify for the 2026 World Cup. While the team qualified for the World Cup from number one in the points table, they are finding it difficult to qualify for the upcoming World Cup this season. Brazil was one of the most expensive teams in the World Cup but despite being the most expensive team, they did not make it to the semi-finals. The World Cup qualifying match is going on but the important players of the team are injured. The CBF never imagined that so many important players would suffer injuries at once. Most of the players in the starting XI are injured and we are seeing this deterioration in Brazil's performance.
Brazil, though, currently their important players are not performing very well due to injuries. But I think they still have a chance to climb the points table for the World Cup qualifiers and if they can do well in the next matches then they will definitely qualify for the World Cup in 2026. If their key stars are injury free, then surely the team will be stronger and have their names in the World Cup qualifiers. Although Brazil is an expensive team, their current performance has kept them from reaching the semi-finals so far, which is unfortunate for them. However, with the current eleven, they will never be selected for the 2026 World Cup, that's why they must have experienced players in the team, only then Brazil can go to the World Cup qualifiers.
It would be a natural thing if Brazil qualified for the World Cup but if for some reason Brazil could not qualify for the main stage of the World Cup then it would be one of the biggest shames for Brazil. We now see a lot of chances for Brazil to qualify for the main stage of the World Cup but if Brazil doesn't play according to their plans then there is still a possibility of such a disaster. Brazil must think differently in the upcoming matches as the goal is to win their mission hexa, now they have to fight hard for a place in the main stage. We have seen since the 2014 World Cup that Brazil goes into the World Cup with a very strong team but they finish the World Cup very badly.  They finished a poor tournament in 2022 as well but will be expected to be theirs in 2026.
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Brazil is ranked 6th and has only managed to secure 7 points in 6 matches from a total of 18 matches. I am optimistic that next year, precisely in September, they will experience an improvement in performance and maintain their hopes of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup. Several players in the main squad suffered injuries, which was the main factor in Brazil losing their previous three matches. If Ancelotti does not extend his contract with Madrid, then I think there will be an improvement in the squad.

If they manage to improve their performance, then good for them. Else we will witness the rare occasion where Brazil fails to qualify for the world cup. BTW, injury should not be taken as an excuse. Brazil is not the only team that has been impacted by injury issues. The fact that they don't have sufficient backup for their main players exposes their lack of depth in player pool. Brazil's performance during Qatar 2022 was horrendous. And looking at their performance so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers, I don't have much hope for the FIFA World Cup of 2026 either.
The concern for Brazil fans is whether the former five-time World Cup winners will qualify for the 2026 World Cup. While the team qualified for the World Cup from number one in the points table, they are finding it difficult to qualify for the upcoming World Cup this season. Brazil was one of the most expensive teams in the World Cup but despite being the most expensive team, they did not make it to the semi-finals. The World Cup qualifying match is going on but the important players of the team are injured. The CBF never imagined that so many important players would suffer injuries at once. Most of the players in the starting XI are injured and we are seeing this deterioration in Brazil's performance.
Brazil, though, currently their important players are not performing very well due to injuries. But I think they still have a chance to climb the points table for the World Cup qualifiers and if they can do well in the next matches then they will definitely qualify for the World Cup in 2026. If their key stars are injury free, then surely the team will be stronger and have their names in the World Cup qualifiers. Although Brazil is an expensive team, their current performance has kept them from reaching the semi-finals so far, which is unfortunate for them. However, with the current eleven, they will never be selected for the 2026 World Cup, that's why they must have experienced players in the team, only then Brazil can go to the World Cup qualifiers.
This is really sad for the Brazilian team. They now have to settle the equation for the 2026 World Cup. While Brazil is such a strong team, maybe they will be number 1 to 2 in the qualifiers, never thought that they will be number 5. Brazil's game against Argentina saw several key players absent from the field. An important player like Neymar could not play due to injury. Maybe if Neymar was on the field then maybe the result of the match could have been something different. Of course, I want the Brazilian team to play well in the next matches of the qualifiers. If they play well, they will secure the 2026 World Cup. Best wishes for the Brazilian team.
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Currently, the players who are in the Brazil team are not so experienced due to which they are not able to perform well in the matches. And if Brazil performs like this in the World Cup qualifiers, they will not be able to go. It is true that Neymar Jr. is a good stickler and Brazil team would not be in such a bad position if he was in the team. A team needs experienced players to move forward whereas Brazil currently lacks experienced players due to which Brazil are losing matches with new players and stars. But if a well-experienced and old player like Argentina had played in Brazil's team, maybe this team would not have been in such a bad position. Since Brazil has all new strikers and stars, the game has not been so good and Brazil team has performed poorly in every match. How can we not accept that this 5-time World Cup winner Brazil team is so bad in this World Cup, if Brazil team continues to play like this then they must leave the World Cup qualifiers.
In fact, if we look more closely at the depth of Brazil squad, we will see that they have quite experienced players, but currently several important players such as Neymar and Vinicius are injured. There are still 11 more matches ahead, convince yourself that Brazil chances of qualifying are very big, as I said above. The points gap is not that big at the moment, and the match will be played again next year and things could improve again.
At present, due to the injury of the good stars of Brazil, the current players are not playing very bravely. If there were experienced players like Neymar, Vini, Casemiro, Anthony, maybe the Brazil team would not be in such a bad position and they would not have less points. However, with 11 matches still ahead, Brazil have a lot of potential as they are a big team and have good stars in their squad. If next year they can win the match against the opposition teams in a great way then definitely the Brazil team will be in a good position and they can improve well.
It's true that I hope that the scenario that will play out in the future can change their fate, because a World Cup without Brazil feels incomplete. I think the Brazilian squad will be able to finish in the top three of the standings, because there are still many matches yet to be played, and in the future we hope that experienced players like the ones you mentioned can strengthen the team.

Brazil is ranked 6th and has only managed to secure 7 points in 6 matches from a total of 18 matches. I am optimistic that next year, precisely in September, they will experience an improvement in performance and maintain their hopes of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup. Several players in the main squad suffered injuries, which was the main factor in Brazil losing their previous three matches. If Ancelotti does not extend his contract with Madrid, then I think there will be an improvement in the squad.

If they manage to improve their performance, then good for them. Else we will witness the rare occasion where Brazil fails to qualify for the world cup. BTW, injury should not be taken as an excuse. Brazil is not the only team that has been impacted by injury issues. The fact that they don't have sufficient backup for their main players exposes their lack of depth in player pool. Brazil's performance during Qatar 2022 was horrendous. And looking at their performance so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers, I don't have much hope for the FIFA World Cup of 2026 either.
The concern for Brazil fans is whether the former five-time World Cup winners will qualify for the 2026 World Cup. While the team qualified for the World Cup from number one in the points table, they are finding it difficult to qualify for the upcoming World Cup this season. Brazil was one of the most expensive teams in the World Cup but despite being the most expensive team, they did not make it to the semi-finals. The World Cup qualifying match is going on but the important players of the team are injured. The CBF never imagined that so many important players would suffer injuries at once. Most of the players in the starting XI are injured and we are seeing this deterioration in Brazil's performance.
It's true, injury cannot be used as an excuse for defeat and I agree with that opinion. Even if you look at the depth of the squad that Brazil currently has, by playing only second-tier players they can secure a slot to escape the CONMEBOL zone. I think that if Ancelotti signing is actually realized, Brazil will be considered a favorite team in the 2026 edition, even though their current situation is far from good.
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The concern for Brazil fans is whether the former five-time World Cup winners will qualify for the 2026 World Cup. While the team qualified for the World Cup from number one in the points table, they are finding it difficult to qualify for the upcoming World Cup this season. Brazil was one of the most expensive teams in the World Cup but despite being the most expensive team, they did not make it to the semi-finals. The World Cup qualifying match is going on but the important players of the team are injured. The CBF never imagined that so many important players would suffer injuries at once. Most of the players in the starting XI are injured and we are seeing this deterioration in Brazil's performance.

Fortunately for Brazil, a total of 6 teams from the CONMEBOL qualifiers will get the ticket to North America 2026. On top of that, there is an additional spot from the inter-continental playoffs. So the chances of Brazil missing out on qualification is minimal (still can't be ruled out). But that doesn't mean that the current level of performance is acceptable. For a team that has topped the FIFA ranking for many decades, the current position as the 6th placed team in a regional qualifier is nothing short of humiliating. Hopefully they can come back strongly once the qualifiers resume next year.
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Brazil is ranked 6th and has only managed to secure 7 points in 6 matches from a total of 18 matches. I am optimistic that next year, precisely in September, they will experience an improvement in performance and maintain their hopes of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup. Several players in the main squad suffered injuries, which was the main factor in Brazil losing their previous three matches. If Ancelotti does not extend his contract with Madrid, then I think there will be an improvement in the squad.

If they manage to improve their performance, then good for them. Else we will witness the rare occasion where Brazil fails to qualify for the world cup. BTW, injury should not be taken as an excuse. Brazil is not the only team that has been impacted by injury issues. The fact that they don't have sufficient backup for their main players exposes their lack of depth in player pool. Brazil's performance during Qatar 2022 was horrendous. And looking at their performance so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers, I don't have much hope for the FIFA World Cup of 2026 either.
The concern for Brazil fans is whether the former five-time World Cup winners will qualify for the 2026 World Cup. While the team qualified for the World Cup from number one in the points table, they are finding it difficult to qualify for the upcoming World Cup this season. Brazil was one of the most expensive teams in the World Cup but despite being the most expensive team, they did not make it to the semi-finals. The World Cup qualifying match is going on but the important players of the team are injured. The CBF never imagined that so many important players would suffer injuries at once. Most of the players in the starting XI are injured and we are seeing this deterioration in Brazil's performance.
Brazil, though, currently their important players are not performing very well due to injuries. But I think they still have a chance to climb the points table for the World Cup qualifiers and if they can do well in the next matches then they will definitely qualify for the World Cup in 2026. If their key stars are injury free, then surely the team will be stronger and have their names in the World Cup qualifiers. Although Brazil is an expensive team, their current performance has kept them from reaching the semi-finals so far, which is unfortunate for them. However, with the current eleven, they will never be selected for the 2026 World Cup, that's why they must have experienced players in the team, only then Brazil can go to the World Cup qualifiers.
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Brazil is ranked 6th and has only managed to secure 7 points in 6 matches from a total of 18 matches. I am optimistic that next year, precisely in September, they will experience an improvement in performance and maintain their hopes of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup. Several players in the main squad suffered injuries, which was the main factor in Brazil losing their previous three matches. If Ancelotti does not extend his contract with Madrid, then I think there will be an improvement in the squad.

If they manage to improve their performance, then good for them. Else we will witness the rare occasion where Brazil fails to qualify for the world cup. BTW, injury should not be taken as an excuse. Brazil is not the only team that has been impacted by injury issues. The fact that they don't have sufficient backup for their main players exposes their lack of depth in player pool. Brazil's performance during Qatar 2022 was horrendous. And looking at their performance so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers, I don't have much hope for the FIFA World Cup of 2026 either.
The concern for Brazil fans is whether the former five-time World Cup winners will qualify for the 2026 World Cup. While the team qualified for the World Cup from number one in the points table, they are finding it difficult to qualify for the upcoming World Cup this season. Brazil was one of the most expensive teams in the World Cup but despite being the most expensive team, they did not make it to the semi-finals. The World Cup qualifying match is going on but the important players of the team are injured. The CBF never imagined that so many important players would suffer injuries at once. Most of the players in the starting XI are injured and we are seeing this deterioration in Brazil's performance.
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Currently, the players who are in the Brazil team are not so experienced due to which they are not able to perform well in the matches. And if Brazil performs like this in the World Cup qualifiers, they will not be able to go. It is true that Neymar Jr. is a good stickler and Brazil team would not be in such a bad position if he was in the team. A team needs experienced players to move forward whereas Brazil currently lacks experienced players due to which Brazil are losing matches with new players and stars. But if a well-experienced and old player like Argentina had played in Brazil's team, maybe this team would not have been in such a bad position. Since Brazil has all new strikers and stars, the game has not been so good and Brazil team has performed poorly in every match. How can we not accept that this 5-time World Cup winner Brazil team is so bad in this World Cup, if Brazil team continues to play like this then they must leave the World Cup qualifiers.
In fact, if we look more closely at the depth of Brazil squad, we will see that they have quite experienced players, but currently several important players such as Neymar and Vinicius are injured. There are still 11 more matches ahead, convince yourself that Brazil chances of qualifying are very big, as I said above. The points gap is not that big at the moment, and the match will be played again next year and things could improve again.
At present, due to the injury of the good stars of Brazil, the current players are not playing very bravely. If there were experienced players like Neymar, Vini, Casemiro, Anthony, maybe the Brazil team would not be in such a bad position and they would not have less points. However, with 11 matches still ahead, Brazil have a lot of potential as they are a big team and have good stars in their squad. If next year they can win the match against the opposition teams in a great way then definitely the Brazil team will be in a good position and they can improve well.
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Brazil is ranked 6th and has only managed to secure 7 points in 6 matches from a total of 18 matches. I am optimistic that next year, precisely in September, they will experience an improvement in performance and maintain their hopes of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup. Several players in the main squad suffered injuries, which was the main factor in Brazil losing their previous three matches. If Ancelotti does not extend his contract with Madrid, then I think there will be an improvement in the squad.

If they manage to improve their performance, then good for them. Else we will witness the rare occasion where Brazil fails to qualify for the world cup. BTW, injury should not be taken as an excuse. Brazil is not the only team that has been impacted by injury issues. The fact that they don't have sufficient backup for their main players exposes their lack of depth in player pool. Brazil's performance during Qatar 2022 was horrendous. And looking at their performance so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers, I don't have much hope for the FIFA World Cup of 2026 either.
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Yes you are right, but what I want to emphasize is the whole picture. Maybe if we look at their success in qualifying for Qatar smoothly it was a success for them, but we also can't look at just because they were successful at that time because in reality they also couldn't make it to the semifinals at that time because they had to be defeated by Croatia.
When I see a club or a country play, I look at the whole picture, and when I look at Brazil, despite them qualifying well, overall I don't see them showing their true colors.

Yeah, I mean, Brazil is a powerhouse, they will always perform pretty well. Of course sometimes they lose at some game like against Croatia, in the same way the Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia only to then continue to win the whole thing.

Every player in Brazil is highly skilled. It's always a big name but of course they cannot always be at their maximum. They have won the most world cups in the world, and they have qualified to every single one. No other country on earth comes close to that.
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The last few years Brazil has shown a decline, but if we look into the composition of the actual players they are inhabited by many very qualified players, but when they play for Brazil it seems they lose their identity and do not play optimally. I don't know for sure what exactly the problem they face.
But this is not something new in football, England, Germany or even Spain have experienced the same thing.
Next year they will certainly be working with Ancelotti and I hope that will be a turning point where they will rediscover their true selves.

In the last qualifications, for Qatar, Brazil qualified first without losing a single match.

I wouldn't call that a decline  Grin
Yes you are right, but what I want to emphasize is the whole picture. Maybe if we look at their success in qualifying for Qatar smoothly it was a success for them, but we also can't look at just because they were successful at that time because in reality they also couldn't make it to the semifinals at that time because they had to be defeated by Croatia.
When I see a club or a country play, I look at the whole picture, and when I look at Brazil, despite them qualifying well, overall I don't see them showing their true colors.
The Brazil national team has performed below the expectations of many football fans across the globe but more especially  less of the expectations of Brazilians. The Brazil national team comprises of the players of the big clubs in Europe but one thing that's been lacking with the team is their failure to replicate their performances for their respective clubs whenever they're playing for the national team.
Several reports in the media suggests that the current Real Madrid boss Carlo Ancelotti is gonna take over the coaching of the team next summer and hopefully he's gonna help Brazil get back to winning ways once again
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The last 4 games were very bad, you are right, they didnt win any of them. Against Venezuela they should have win, but just before the end in minute 85 they got the 1:1 and play a drew. If they won that game, they would have been ahead of Argentina in the group, both with 9 points, but Brazil with more goals. After the game it got worse, losing vs Uruguay, Colombia and now Argentina. The next games are 9 months away, with the European Championship in Germany in between, which I think is the best thing for Brazil not to play at the moment.

Brazil started their qualifiers with a spectacular 5-1 win over Bolivia at the Estádio Olímpico do Pará in Belém. And then, in the next match they struggled but ended up with a 1-0 win against Peru. After that things went rapidly downhill for them. During the third match, they conceded a 1-1 draw against one of the weakest teams in CONMEBOL (Venezuela). They were leading with a margin of 1-0 till the 85th minute, before Eduard Bello made it 1-1 to give Venezuela a precious point against Brazil. Horrorfest followed, with loses against Uruguay (0-2), Colombia (1-2) and Argentina (0-1).  

I was also just seeing how the standings are for South America at World Cup qualifiers and it is truly horrendous to see Brazil in 7th place with very less chances to make it to this World Cup,I don't know how it would look a World Cup without Brazil,I guess this is the first one or we have a very very long time that we don't witness such thing.

I wish Brazil recovers but seeing their way of play in most of these games so far this looks more like wishful thinking rather than them having a real chance to make it back to this tournament.

It is impossible to accept that the Brazil team will be with such a performance. Brazil striker Neymar has been unable to properly control his team due to his injury. Because Neymar controls all the players with his experience but in this current situation it is never possible to survive with a unique team. Because the Brazil team is very low when looking at the points table, there are many new players in the Brazil team, which makes it difficult to attack the other team with their experience. Because this World Cup Brazil will be so low it was never expected.


Currently, the players who are in the Brazil team are not so experienced due to which they are not able to perform well in the matches. And if Brazil performs like this in the World Cup qualifiers, they will not be able to go. It is true that Neymar Jr. is a good stickler and Brazil team would not be in such a bad position if he was in the team. A team needs experienced players to move forward whereas Brazil currently lacks experienced players due to which Brazil are losing matches with new players and stars. But if a well-experienced and old player like Argentina had played in Brazil's team, maybe this team would not have been in such a bad position. Since Brazil has all new strikers and stars, the game has not been so good and Brazil team has performed poorly in every match. How can we not accept that this 5-time World Cup winner Brazil team is so bad in this World Cup, if Brazil team continues to play like this then they must leave the World Cup qualifiers.

The performance of Brazil was really disappointing and they are not at the level they should normally be. Brazil is known as the first team in the world and they have had many World Cup achievements but with this performance, we saw from them against Argentina they can't have any chance.
I think Brazil should stop thinking about Neymar and they need a new coach to do some reworks in this team.
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The last 4 games were very bad, you are right, they didnt win any of them. Against Venezuela they should have win, but just before the end in minute 85 they got the 1:1 and play a drew. If they won that game, they would have been ahead of Argentina in the group, both with 9 points, but Brazil with more goals. After the game it got worse, losing vs Uruguay, Colombia and now Argentina. The next games are 9 months away, with the European Championship in Germany in between, which I think is the best thing for Brazil not to play at the moment.

Brazil started their qualifiers with a spectacular 5-1 win over Bolivia at the Estádio Olímpico do Pará in Belém. And then, in the next match they struggled but ended up with a 1-0 win against Peru. After that things went rapidly downhill for them. During the third match, they conceded a 1-1 draw against one of the weakest teams in CONMEBOL (Venezuela). They were leading with a margin of 1-0 till the 85th minute, before Eduard Bello made it 1-1 to give Venezuela a precious point against Brazil. Horrorfest followed, with loses against Uruguay (0-2), Colombia (1-2) and Argentina (0-1).  
Brazil is ranked 6th and has only managed to secure 7 points in 6 matches from a total of 18 matches. I am optimistic that next year, precisely in September, they will experience an improvement in performance and maintain their hopes of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup. Several players in the main squad suffered injuries, which was the main factor in Brazil losing their previous three matches. If Ancelotti does not extend his contract with Madrid, then I think there will be an improvement in the squad.

I was also just seeing how the standings are for South America at World Cup qualifiers and it is truly horrendous to see Brazil in 7th place with very less chances to make it to this World Cup,I don't know how it would look a World Cup without Brazil,I guess this is the first one or we have a very very long time that we don't witness such thing.

I wish Brazil recovers but seeing their way of play in most of these games so far this looks more like wishful thinking rather than them having a real chance to make it back to this tournament.

It is impossible to accept that the Brazil team will be with such a performance. Brazil striker Neymar has been unable to properly control his team due to his injury. Because Neymar controls all the players with his experience but in this current situation it is never possible to survive with a unique team. Because the Brazil team is very low when looking at the points table, there are many new players in the Brazil team, which makes it difficult to attack the other team with their experience. Because this World Cup Brazil will be so low it was never expected.

For your information, the Conmebol zone is attended by 10 teams, in this zone FIFA has given 6 slots up for grabs so they can participate in the upcoming 2026 World Cup. From this point of view, I see that Brazil chances of qualifying are still very large. Even though they are currently in 7th place in the standings, I am quite sure they will qualify in the future.

Currently, the players who are in the Brazil team are not so experienced due to which they are not able to perform well in the matches. And if Brazil performs like this in the World Cup qualifiers, they will not be able to go. It is true that Neymar Jr. is a good stickler and Brazil team would not be in such a bad position if he was in the team. A team needs experienced players to move forward whereas Brazil currently lacks experienced players due to which Brazil are losing matches with new players and stars. But if a well-experienced and old player like Argentina had played in Brazil's team, maybe this team would not have been in such a bad position. Since Brazil has all new strikers and stars, the game has not been so good and Brazil team has performed poorly in every match. How can we not accept that this 5-time World Cup winner Brazil team is so bad in this World Cup, if Brazil team continues to play like this then they must leave the World Cup qualifiers.
In fact, if we look more closely at the depth of Brazil squad, we will see that they have quite experienced players, but currently several important players such as Neymar and Vinicius are injured. There are still 11 more matches ahead, convince yourself that Brazil chances of qualifying are very big, as I said above. The points gap is not that big at the moment, and the match will be played again next year and things could improve again.
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Well, if we assume that Brazil cannot beat Chile and Bolivia, then they probably do not deserve a place in the final part of the World Cup and there is no tragedy here. But there are really still many games ahead - 12 and Brazil has a huge number of opportunities to both improve its position and simply maintain its 6th place, which gives a direct ticket to the World Cup.
In general, this is a rather funny competition: 10 participants, 6 of whom receive a direct ticket and another one gets into the play-offs, that is, out of 10 participants, 7 teams can get to the World Cup at once. Incredibly difficult tournament!  Grin

I know, I know... It is not that I really believe Brazil could miss this qualification, but you are certainly right with what you said. If they fail, or any team that fails, does not deserve to participate in the World Cup regardless of their name and history as a football nation. And there are so many games to go, which I believe still calms down the Brazilian team and they think nothing bad happened thus far.

But this is where I start developing this tiny doubt about them. If they still think this is not a dangerous situation for them, it could backfire. It is all still good and 12 games to go. But when they now lose two or three more games against opponents from below them in the table, this could really become a tough qualification for them. At first you lose a game because you play bad, but then, you know, the games go against you for unexpected reasons. Brazil dominates, but then there is this red card and the penalty. 20:1 shots but that one shot of the opponent hit the upper right angle of the goal... You know what I mean Wink

Yes, I understand, sometimes absolutely incredible results happen, but the longer the distance, the more unlikely they are. There are 12 games ahead, which is 5 games more than in the Champions League playoffs. And as we know, the Champions League is always won by the same clubs, although the distance is shorter and we can assume that the dispersion will be greater.
In general, I have not checked, but I am sure that the bookmakers quote the probability of Brazil qualifying as 1.01. Moreover, taking into account the fact that the bet will be played only in 2025, we can say that this is a negative coefficient (lower than inflation).

Ok but this is where I don't know enough about the national teams in South America. I know that Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay are really strong, but I also thought that most of the other teams are at least not weak. Maybe if I can give an example, would you say that the game Brazil against Chile is about the same as Manchester City against Young Boys Bern? This is just to get an idea where to rank those teams in terms of strength. But I have been of the opinion that there is a certain baseline strength in South American teams that should never be underestimated and that those teams are occasionally able to take away points from the favorites. But this "occasional" could turn into a problem for Brazil now.
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The last 4 games were very bad, you are right, they didnt win any of them. Against Venezuela they should have win, but just before the end in minute 85 they got the 1:1 and play a drew. If they won that game, they would have been ahead of Argentina in the group, both with 9 points, but Brazil with more goals. After the game it got worse, losing vs Uruguay, Colombia and now Argentina. The next games are 9 months away, with the European Championship in Germany in between, which I think is the best thing for Brazil not to play at the moment.

Brazil started their qualifiers with a spectacular 5-1 win over Bolivia at the Estádio Olímpico do Pará in Belém. And then, in the next match they struggled but ended up with a 1-0 win against Peru. After that things went rapidly downhill for them. During the third match, they conceded a 1-1 draw against one of the weakest teams in CONMEBOL (Venezuela). They were leading with a margin of 1-0 till the 85th minute, before Eduard Bello made it 1-1 to give Venezuela a precious point against Brazil. Horrorfest followed, with loses against Uruguay (0-2), Colombia (1-2) and Argentina (0-1).  

I was also just seeing how the standings are for South America at World Cup qualifiers and it is truly horrendous to see Brazil in 7th place with very less chances to make it to this World Cup,I don't know how it would look a World Cup without Brazil,I guess this is the first one or we have a very very long time that we don't witness such thing.

I wish Brazil recovers but seeing their way of play in most of these games so far this looks more like wishful thinking rather than them having a real chance to make it back to this tournament.

It is impossible to accept that the Brazil team will be with such a performance. Brazil striker Neymar has been unable to properly control his team due to his injury. Because Neymar controls all the players with his experience but in this current situation it is never possible to survive with a unique team. Because the Brazil team is very low when looking at the points table, there are many new players in the Brazil team, which makes it difficult to attack the other team with their experience. Because this World Cup Brazil will be so low it was never expected.


Currently, the players who are in the Brazil team are not so experienced due to which they are not able to perform well in the matches. And if Brazil performs like this in the World Cup qualifiers, they will not be able to go. It is true that Neymar Jr. is a good stickler and Brazil team would not be in such a bad position if he was in the team. A team needs experienced players to move forward whereas Brazil currently lacks experienced players due to which Brazil are losing matches with new players and stars. But if a well-experienced and old player like Argentina had played in Brazil's team, maybe this team would not have been in such a bad position. Since Brazil has all new strikers and stars, the game has not been so good and Brazil team has performed poorly in every match. How can we not accept that this 5-time World Cup winner Brazil team is so bad in this World Cup, if Brazil team continues to play like this then they must leave the World Cup qualifiers.
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I feel like that's the trouble with the world cup, we are only getting to see a few nations and that's why I support growing the number of teams that will join, yes mostly it will be other European countries that get the benefit and I am fine with that too, but American or Asian countries that will be a bit different could be fun. Look at what Bolivia did last world cup, totally unexpected, or look at any time a different nation joins, like how morocco was a big shocker to everyone around the world.

I believe that even though they may have trouble during the qualifying period, I think a team that may have just lucky 2-3 games, they can shock the whole world during world cup and that will definitely benefit everyone. I believe that we need to end up focusing a bit about the situation and could get better with time if we know what we are doing. I believe that we are going to end up with a situation that will benefit everyone one way or another hopefully.
I agree, with more and more teams it is going to be both open to surprises a lot more and that will definitely be a lot more fun, but even if not, even if a bad team joins and loses all games and goes back, isn't it better to see your team there and losing then not even see your team there?

I bet that with more clubs we are going to see even more viewers, there are already a ton of viewers for it there is no doubt about that, but we are going to see even more people as well. That's really an important thing, billions are watching these games, so we should have a lot more people in order to make it continue for as long as possible. I think it is quite entertaining to even lose here, compared to not even be at the world cup all together.

I actually agree that it is definitely better to see a team perform in big stages of the World Cup and even if they lose all the matches they are gaining good experience. Maybe then next time they are going to do better. Compared to not seeing the team perform at all. After all, that's how smaller teams gain the experience and hunger to do better. If we don't give a chance to them to prove themselves, they are never going to be able to show what they are capable of.
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The last few years Brazil has shown a decline, but if we look into the composition of the actual players they are inhabited by many very qualified players, but when they play for Brazil it seems they lose their identity and do not play optimally. I don't know for sure what exactly the problem they face.
But this is not something new in football, England, Germany or even Spain have experienced the same thing.
Next year they will certainly be working with Ancelotti and I hope that will be a turning point where they will rediscover their true selves.

In the last qualifications, for Qatar, Brazil qualified first without losing a single match.

I wouldn't call that a decline  Grin
Yes you are right, but what I want to emphasize is the whole picture. Maybe if we look at their success in qualifying for Qatar smoothly it was a success for them, but we also can't look at just because they were successful at that time because in reality they also couldn't make it to the semifinals at that time because they had to be defeated by Croatia.
When I see a club or a country play, I look at the whole picture, and when I look at Brazil, despite them qualifying well, overall I don't see them showing their true colors.
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