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Brazil didn't expect the outcome to be a draw but it is better than a loss.

Brazil should have won the match. They dominated but could not win the match. Even with a very clear chance, they still had to accept a draw. This result is not something good for Brazil, they have received a lot of criticism from observers and fans. There must be an evaluation of the Brazilian team, even if they qualify, with their performance with some extraordinary players they have in the team, maybe they will not be successful enough to compete in the World Cup.

Everyone said that this was a match that Brazil should have won, but, this is football, anything can happen on the field. For the next match, Brazil will face Uruguay, and of course this will be a difficult match for Barzil to win. But to improve their position in the standings, Brazil must be able to win this match.

And of course the poor performance shown by Brazil has drawn a lot of criticism from observers and fans. This can happen because considering that Barzil is one of the best national teams in the world and Brazil is the birthplace of the best talents.
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The way things are with the Brazilian national team, if they qualify for the World Cup, I believe that this team will not even be able to get past the group stage. Even today, after so many years, the team does not even have a standard of play. Even though there are talented players there, in modern football it is impossible for just one player to make a difference... as was the case with Romário in the 1994 World Cup, for example.
Before now, Brazil used to be a very good contender at the world cup, as a matter of fact they have won the cup once or there about, I wouldn't want to see them as not having a pattern long before now, it's recently with the whole coaching crisis and some political association in their management that has got them to this state as they have not always been like this, if they have, probably they wouldn't have one the time they did or even have very good finish the times they have too. They don't really have that player dependency as they have very many talented players actually.
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Brazil should have won the match. They dominated but could not win the match. Even with a very clear chance, they still had to accept a draw. This result is not something good for Brazil, they have received a lot of criticism from observers and fans. There must be an evaluation of the Brazilian team, even if they qualify, with their performance with some extraordinary players they have in the team, maybe they will not be successful enough to compete in the World Cup.

The way things are with the Brazilian national team, if they qualify for the World Cup, I believe that this team will not even be able to get past the group stage. Even today, after so many years, the team does not even have a standard of play. Even though there are talented players there, in modern football it is impossible for just one player to make a difference... as was the case with Romário in the 1994 World Cup, for example.
The fact that Brazil is struggling in their 2026 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers shouldn't be a reason for anyone to think that they'll also struggle if they make it to the finals of the competition in 2 years time. The Brazil national team in my opinion is the most talented in the world in terms of quality of players so I tell they'll be back to their best in no distant time. They host Uruguay on Wednesday and even when I know that their visitors will be a hard nut to crack, I expect Brazil to win the game at the end.
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Brazil didn't expect the outcome to be a draw but it is better than a loss.

Brazil should have won the match. They dominated but could not win the match. Even with a very clear chance, they still had to accept a draw. This result is not something good for Brazil, they have received a lot of criticism from observers and fans. There must be an evaluation of the Brazilian team, even if they qualify, with their performance with some extraordinary players they have in the team, maybe they will not be successful enough to compete in the World Cup.

The way things are with the Brazilian national team, if they qualify for the World Cup, I believe that this team will not even be able to get past the group stage. Even today, after so many years, the team does not even have a standard of play. Even though there are talented players there, in modern football it is impossible for just one player to make a difference... as was the case with Romário in the 1994 World Cup, for example.
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Brazil didn't expect the outcome to be a draw but it is better than a loss.

Brazil should have won the match. They dominated but could not win the match. Even with a very clear chance, they still had to accept a draw. This result is not something good for Brazil, they have received a lot of criticism from observers and fans. There must be an evaluation of the Brazilian team, even if they qualify, with their performance with some extraordinary players they have in the team, maybe they will not be successful enough to compete in the World Cup.
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Brazil and Argentina faced off in two separate World Cup qualifiers with neither team winning. Brazil came very close to winning as they were awarded a penalty kick although the penalty shot was weak and due to this poor shot they were unable to hit the goal post. On the other hand Argentina failed to win against Paraguay Argentina's achievement in that match was defeat by Paraguay. Brazil and Argentina are two of the biggest football teams but their performances have not satisfied us at all recently. Brazil has regularly underperformed, but Argentina has recently started to underperform. But I wish them all the best for their next match and hopefully they will bounce back with a win.
Vinicius Júnior had the opportunity to end his six-match goal drought but he got a penalty saved and wasted the rebound. Raphinha's free-kick goal gave the Brazilian side a glimpse of taking the three points but the lead was short-lived by 21-year-old Telasco Segovia's goal. I don't expect experienced players to behave abnormally on the pitch. Alexander Gonzalez's poor display on the pitch when he hit both Gabriel Martinelli and Vinicius Júnior is not commendable. Brazil didn't expect the outcome to be a draw but it is better than a loss.

The game between Argentina and Paraguay was the shock of the day. One would have expected them to have a smooth sail after dominating the match. But they were very poor in the attacking recording just one shot on target. They are still on top of the World Cup qualifiers table with 22 points.
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Brazil and Argentina faced off in two separate World Cup qualifiers with neither team winning. Brazil came very close to winning as they were awarded a penalty kick although the penalty shot was weak and due to this poor shot they were unable to hit the goal post. On the other hand Argentina failed to win against Paraguay Argentina's achievement in that match was defeat by Paraguay. Brazil and Argentina are two of the biggest football teams but their performances have not satisfied us at all recently. Brazil has regularly underperformed, but Argentina has recently started to underperform. But I wish them all the best for their next match and hopefully they will bounce back with a win.
Brazil and Argentina faced each other in two separate World Cup qualifiers match but the performances of these two teams were not very good. Brazil might have had the chance to win but their team striker Vinicius Junior missed a penalty and they were unable to win the match. On the other hand, Argentina was facing the Paraguayan football team at Paraguay's home ground. After watching the performance of the Argentine players in that match, I felt that they were uncomfortable, that is, they were under pressure.

It was unimaginable and unexpected for everyone that Argentina would lose to Paraguay in the FIFA World Cup qualifiers match. Since the 2022 World Cup in Qatar, the Argentina football team has been performing brilliantly against the opposition in every match. Based on that it might have been expected by everyone that they would easily win the match against Paraguay but they could not do so.
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Brazil and Argentina faced off in two separate World Cup qualifiers with neither team winning. Brazil came very close to winning as they were awarded a penalty kick although the penalty shot was weak and due to this poor shot they were unable to hit the goal post. On the other hand Argentina failed to win against Paraguay Argentina's achievement in that match was defeat by Paraguay. Brazil and Argentina are two of the biggest football teams but their performances have not satisfied us at all recently. Brazil has regularly underperformed, but Argentina has recently started to underperform. But I wish them all the best for their next match and hopefully they will bounce back with a win.

It was almost impossible for Paraguay to beat Argentina, but this is football where anything can happen when you are on the field. Paraguay managed to win the match with a score of 2-1 under Argentina's dominance. Getting the ball and immediately attacking, that's what Paraguay did in this match. On the other hand, I must admit that Paraguay's defense was quite good, they were able to maintain their advantage from the 47th minute until the match ended.

And regarding Barcelona, ​​this should have been a match that Barcelona could have won, considering that this was a match that was quite important to be able to improve Barcelona's position in the standings. and it is true with what you said, in this match, Brazil failed to take advantage of their dominance and every opportunity they got, so in the end Brazil had to share points with Venezuela.
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Brazil and Argentina faced off in two separate World Cup qualifiers with neither team winning. Brazil came very close to winning as they were awarded a penalty kick although the penalty shot was weak and due to this poor shot they were unable to hit the goal post. On the other hand Argentina failed to win against Paraguay Argentina's achievement in that match was defeat by Paraguay. Brazil and Argentina are two of the biggest football teams but their performances have not satisfied us at all recently. Brazil has regularly underperformed, but Argentina has recently started to underperform. But I wish them all the best for their next match and hopefully they will bounce back with a win.
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But the overall performance of Saudi Arabia  team was good because their possession percentage was excellent and that was 58 percent and passes of that team were 491 which were more as comparison to opponent team which gave passes 359 .The pass accuracy of Saudi Arabia football team  pass accuracy was also perfect because that was 79 percent as comparison to opponent team pass accuracy .
In this FIFA World Cup Asian Qualifiers third round football match between Saudi Arabia and Australia I predicted that Saudi Arabia will win but they didn't do it that means Saudi Arabia didn't meet my expectations. Actually I predicted Saudi Arabia to win because they managed to defeat a strong team like Argentina in Qatar FIFA World Cup. After that the football world started to know this team anew and everyone thinks that Saudi Arabia is a strong football team.

Although Saudi Arabia is a strong football team, they are not performing well in the Asian qualifier round matches. This team is in Group C but they have more number of draws than wins in the matches.
You should also see that Australia is not weak team, they are playing at home so it is natural that Saudi Arabia is under pressure that makes it difficult for them to win and Saudi Arabia front line is also not that dangerous.
I will not use Saudi Arabia victory over Argentina in the 2022 World Cup as an assessment for analyzing the match against Australia in the third round of this qualification because Saudi Arabia victory against Argentina is still in the group stage phase and in this phase even strong team get defeated because they will optimize their performance when they are really in an important round for the knockout phase such as the last 16 so on until the final because in the group stage Argentina is also guaranteed to pass.
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Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi cannot be judged by the Ballon d'Or but by their talent. There is no doubt that Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi would have been the greatest players of all time if they had been born at different times, even though they played football at the same time and competed with each other to win many individual titles. Ronaldo must be kept ahead in consideration of speed, scoring with different parts of the body as well as free kicks. On the other hand, considering overall performance including ball dribbling, finishing and Ballon d'Or, Lionel Messi must be kept ahead. That is, these two are the best players of all time and they are always the greatest of the world time.

You said it loud and clear, I think there's no doubt about it, many people put Pele and Maradona as the best players in the world, but I think in terms of players who have been much more famous are these two, in fact since they met at the World Cup in the USA, some time ago I saw a news item on social media that an AI predicted that Argentina would win the next World Cup again, I honestly find it difficult, but these are things that people sometimes put out, I think it's too early to say who will win, everything can change, times change and this World Cup looks promising, there will be more football, more teams, which means that we will enjoy football for a long time.


This discussion is and has always been kind of pointless. If someone today claims that Pele and Maradona were better than Messi, then this means that they think if Messi would have played against Maradona in the past, Maradona would have had more impact on the outcome of the game than Messi. Seriously I don't that is correct. Messi has decided so many games and the claim that he was fed by all his amazing midfielders is true, but only to a certain degree. Compare the one man show goals and games from Maradona and Messi. Messi has scored so many goals without needing a single midfielder to pass the ball to him. He took it and he crossed the entire pitch and scored. That is insane and just look up how many goals he scored that were deciders.

Maradona was amazing, too. There is no doubt about that, but I think most people would agree that watching Messi sometimes felt like you are watching an alien play football. It was out of this world to see how smart, how quick, how agile, how versatile, how deadly he was. Free kicks, solo dribblings, shots from outside the box, everything.
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We have no action from Australia or Saudi Arab as both are trying to end deadlock into this important game which is playing at the Melbourne while we have both teams on same level in league table for Third Stage qualifiers Saudi Arab have better control of ball, but their attack is not able to take advantage due to Australian tight defense.

Situation could be interested in second half because here we need must win for the Saudi Arab otherwise things can go out of the way for them to have qualification into next world cup due to challenging situation in coming matches with Australia is having better chance but still they also needed better result of this game can we have a goal in second half it's interesting for both teams fans.
No team could goal in this match and match was ended with no result. Both teams try to do goal in this match but against team did not give time to goal and boh teams had focus on defense and that was a big reason of the draw as a result of this match. Both teams have equal points on the points table and lie close to each other because Australia team has 1 GD and Saudi Arabia national  team has -1 GD . But the overall performance of Saudi Arabia  team was good because their possession percentage was excellent and that was 58 percent and passes of that team were 491 which were more as comparison to opponent team which gave passes 359 .The pass accuracy of Saudi Arabia football team  pass accuracy was also perfect because that was 79 percent as comparison to opponent team pass accuracy .

The Saudi Arabian National Team was apparently more dominant in terms of ball possession and the way they shared out passes, which meant they were able to control the game. The midfield battle was very intense, where the percentage of possession rose to 58% and there were more passes, thus proving their superiority in that area. But, in that dominance, they did not match it with effectiveness in the front line.

Australia, on the other hand, though not dominant in the game, outdid the opponent in building dangerous attacks. However, their failure to finish the chances well proved the main obstacle for them in netting goals. So that in the end, possession and dangerous attacks not enough without good finishing did not bring about a desired result. Hence, both teams had to settle for a draw.
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But the overall performance of Saudi Arabia  team was good because their possession percentage was excellent and that was 58 percent and passes of that team were 491 which were more as comparison to opponent team which gave passes 359 .The pass accuracy of Saudi Arabia football team  pass accuracy was also perfect because that was 79 percent as comparison to opponent team pass accuracy .
In this FIFA World Cup Asian Qualifiers third round football match between Saudi Arabia and Australia I predicted that Saudi Arabia will win but they didn't do it that means Saudi Arabia didn't meet my expectations. Actually I predicted Saudi Arabia to win because they managed to defeat a strong team like Argentina in Qatar FIFA World Cup. After that the football world started to know this team anew and everyone thinks that Saudi Arabia is a strong football team.

Although Saudi Arabia is a strong football team, they are not performing well in the Asian qualifier round matches. This team is in Group C but they have more number of draws than wins in the matches.
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We have no action from Australia or Saudi Arab as both are trying to end deadlock into this important game which is playing at the Melbourne while we have both teams on same level in league table for Third Stage qualifiers Saudi Arab have better control of ball, but their attack is not able to take advantage due to Australian tight defense.

Situation could be interested in second half because here we need must win for the Saudi Arab otherwise things can go out of the way for them to have qualification into next world cup due to challenging situation in coming matches with Australia is having better chance but still they also needed better result of this game can we have a goal in second half it's interesting for both teams fans.
No team could goal in this match and match was ended with no result. Both teams try to do goal in this match but against team did not give time to goal and boh teams had focus on defense and that was a big reason of the draw as a result of this match. Both teams have equal points on the points table and lie close to each other because Australia team has 1 GD and Saudi Arabia national  team has -1 GD . But the overall performance of Saudi Arabia  team was good because their possession percentage was excellent and that was 58 percent and passes of that team were 491 which were more as comparison to opponent team which gave passes 359 .The pass accuracy of Saudi Arabia football team  pass accuracy was also perfect because that was 79 percent as comparison to opponent team pass accuracy .
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The funniest part of all this is that Japan manages to score a lot of goals when they play against Asian opponents, as for example in the case of yesterday's game in which Japan managed to score 4 goals. Anyone who watched the game could say that Japan is very strong, but in reality what happens is that the Asian national teams are extremely weak. That's why when Japan plays in the World Cup against teams with average strength, they don't manage to score many goals and lose. I believe that Asia needs to change some things in the sport if they want to evolve more to the point of competing with European teams. We see, for example, the case of South Korea, which has had good players in the big European teams. If more Asian national teams have players in big European teams, then Asian teams could be stronger in the World Cup.
The Japanese national team has many players who play in European clubs. And their quality really cannot be underestimated as individual players. And you know that in the 2022 World Cup the Japanese national team managed to beat Spain and Germany in the group stage. And became the team with the most points in Group E and qualified for the round of 16. Unfortunately they failed in the round of 16 and lost on penalties against Croatia. so I think Japan even has better quality than some European countries. And Japan's defeat in the round of 16 was not a defeat in normal time but the match ended in a draw and continued with a penalty shootout. And currently I don't think South Korea is much better than Japan. Although South Korea also has many star players in its squad. Because there are many South Korean players who also play in European clubs. But if you remember how Japan played at the 2022 World Cup, you will see how extraordinary they are. They actively attack with very fast attacks and very strong kicks.
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Indonesia's difficulty level to qualify for the World Cup will be even heavier. The target can be in the top four positions and after the results against Japan, Indonesia's opportunity even though stuck in the lowest position of the group is still there as long as they can win two wins even though it depends on teams such as Bahrain and China.
The quality of Japan above Indonesia, but Indonesia's spirit to appear in the World Cup does not show something strange. It is precisely very positive as a team that is risening in world football.
Besides material players who have weaknesses from Japan, Indonesia also lacks experience when playing in qualification World Cup. Indonesia seems to face of mission impossible to move to the next stage. We know the situation is different from a moment ago. Indonesia's squad was filled up with naturalization players, which I think is good in another situation but, that makes it not so compact because both of them were live not on Indonesia, so there isn't have strong bond between them.

I think it's time for the official to fire Shin Tae-Yong. His performance is not so good in bringing players together. I know, he was good in terms of strategy, but couldn't make the players comfortable among them. The current players need cohesiveness between them, If Shin Tae-Yong can not realize this, why do the officials still keep it up? 

If the official brave, they can contact Joachim Low to replace Shin Tae-Yong. Grin

Indonesia and Japan have different classes and levels in terms of football, we know how the quality and also the abilities possessed by Japanese players today, so indeed Indonesia defeat from of Japan has been widely predicted before, I don't think the defeat from Japan should not make Shin Tae Yong fired because after all he has managed to bring Indonesia into a team that is feared in Southeast Asia today, I personally am not someone who likes the naturalisation of players but what Indonesia is doing at the moment is very appropriate given the bad quality from of local players available, if Indonesia had not naturalised then we would not have seen Indonesia get this far, Shin Tae Yong has only built the squad in a short time but he has brought Indonesia this far and in my opinion there is no other coach who deserves other than him to train Indonesia.
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Now Indonesia is in 2 consecutive defeats and can they win against Saudi Arabia? Indonesia's biggest weakness right now is that they do not have a good striker or attack line and midfielder. This makes them fail to create many chances in every match.
They will not able to beat Saudi Arabia, it's either draw or Saudi Arabia win, I predict Saudi Arabia will win.
On paper Saudi Arabia has a greater chance of winning, Indonesia needs great luck to secure full points. The 4-0 defeat to Japan was very disappointing, it shows that the defense line of Shin Tae-yong squad is very fragile. Indeed, Japan is the favorite team, they are ranked first in Asia according to the FIFA ranking. If Indonesia loses points again against Saudi Arabia, then the journey to the 2026 World Cup will end. The naturalization of players carried out by Indonesia so far has not been able to meet expectations, it seems that it will take a long time to see Indonesia playing in the World Cup.
According to the head to head statistics between Indonesia and Saudi Arabia since 1983 Indonesia have been met Saudi Arabia 15 times and from those matches the highest achievement from Indonesia is they only can able to gets 4 draw which the latest draw was happened on September 6 so this makes me doubt Indonesia can gets 3 points and beat Saudi Arabia on November 19 later and indeed to lifted their position from the bottom of Group standing then Indonesia have to win from Saudi Arabia but nothing impossible so maybe Indonesia can able to bounce back and reversing the situation but if want to qualified this match is the last chances for Indonesia and if they lost i think Indonesia have to bury their dreams to playing at the world cup for the first time
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Japan has a solid history of participations in World Cups, but they never managed to reach too far on the competition. They are one of the best national teams from Asia, but when compared to the European and South American national teams, they end not being so competitive. The strongest teams are still the European and South American ones. They are the most likely to win the competition in 2026.

Japan is well know for displaying disciplined, organized, methodical and obedient traits. However, in soccer you also need some creativity, play by ear and authenticity to surprise the adversary and advance in the field. That is what they lack, I suppose. At same time, it's admirable to see how organized Japan's plays are during the matches.

The funniest part of all this is that Japan manages to score a lot of goals when they play against Asian opponents, as for example in the case of yesterday's game in which Japan managed to score 4 goals. Anyone who watched the game could say that Japan is very strong, but in reality what happens is that the Asian national teams are extremely weak. That's why when Japan plays in the World Cup against teams with average strength, they don't manage to score many goals and lose. I believe that Asia needs to change some things in the sport if they want to evolve more to the point of competing with European teams. We see, for example, the case of South Korea, which has had good players in the big European teams. If more Asian national teams have players in big European teams, then Asian teams could be stronger in the World Cup.

Japan is placing at the top 15 of FIFA Men's world club ranking.

In the World Cup qualifiers, Japan far superior to their opponents. It's no surprise they dominated the qualifier group. They faced many weak countries from SEA. Japan is equally to the top football countries in EU. It's no way SEA countries can win against them.

That's why they have dominated the group qualifier so easily. The southeast asian countries are not match for them.

As for how weak SEA countries are . The reason is that football was not promising enough to be a job. So, they didn't try to maximize their potential to improve. This is why mostly SEA countries are placing at the bottom of FIFA ranking.


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Now Indonesia is in 2 consecutive defeats and can they win against Saudi Arabia? Indonesia's biggest weakness right now is that they do not have a good striker or attack line and midfielder. This makes them fail to create many chances in every match.
They will not able to beat Saudi Arabia, it's either draw or Saudi Arabia win, I predict Saudi Arabia will win.
On paper Saudi Arabia has a greater chance of winning, Indonesia needs great luck to secure full points. The 4-0 defeat to Japan was very disappointing, it shows that the defense line of Shin Tae-yong squad is very fragile. Indeed, Japan is the favorite team, they are ranked first in Asia according to the FIFA ranking. If Indonesia loses points again against Saudi Arabia, then the journey to the 2026 World Cup will end. The naturalization of players carried out by Indonesia so far has not been able to meet expectations, it seems that it will take a long time to see Indonesia playing in the World Cup.
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Japan has a solid history of participations in World Cups, but they never managed to reach too far on the competition. They are one of the best national teams from Asia, but when compared to the European and South American national teams, they end not being so competitive. The strongest teams are still the European and South American ones. They are the most likely to win the competition in 2026.
Japan is well know for displaying disciplined, organized, methodical and obedient traits. However, in soccer you also need some creativity, play by ear and authenticity to surprise the adversary and advance in the field. That is what they lack, I suppose. At same time, it's admirable to see how organized Japan's plays are during the matches.
The funniest part of all this is that Japan manages to score a lot of goals when they play against Asian opponents, as for example in the case of yesterday's game in which Japan managed to score 4 goals. Anyone who watched the game could say that Japan is very strong, but in reality what happens is that the Asian national teams are extremely weak. That's why when Japan plays in the World Cup against teams with average strength, they don't manage to score many goals and lose. I believe that Asia needs to change some things in the sport if they want to evolve more to the point of competing with European teams. We see, for example, the case of South Korea, which has had good players in the big European teams. If more Asian national teams have players in big European teams, then Asian teams could be stronger in the World Cup.

Japan performed very well in this match. Japan won 4-0 against Indonesia. We have seen Japan's dominance since the first half. In the 35th minute of the match, Indonesia conceded a goal due to a mistake by Indonesian defender Hubner. And in just 5 minutes, Japan scored another goal to take a 2-0 lead in the first half. Japan scored two more goals in the second half to secure a 4-0 victory.

Asian teams are not very strong in football. Japan is able to perform decently against relatively small teams. However, we do not see a good performance from Japan in the World Cup. The teams participating in the World Cup are relatively strong. For this reason, it is very difficult for Japan to win any match in the World Cup.
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