Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 19. (Read 65593 times)

Now Japan is leading by 4 goals, Indonesia is not playing very badly, but anyway we know how far the two are in the FIFA ranking. Japan's player control ability is superior and we can see it when Japanese players move with the ball. However Japanese players have more experience here, and many have played in Europe, although the same thing is on Indonesia's side, I think the quality of the players is a little different.

The difference in strength between the Indonesian national team and the Japanese national team is very different. So it seems that Indonesia's defeat in this match was expected by everyone. Even though Indonesian supporters hope that Indonesia can make a surprise, but with the difference in strength and quality, everything is difficult to happen. And now Japan has even scored its fourth goal against Indonesia. And it seems that it is no longer possible for Indonesia to reverse the situation. And yes, Indonesia's hopes of progressing further seem to end from here. Because in the next matches, Indonesia will have opponents who are stronger than Indonesia itself. In fact, Indonesia's success at this stage seems to have been a surprise to everyone.

Just like what I expect, Japan is leading 3 goals now.

There's no chance for Indonesia to beat Japan, they also will not able to qualify for Champions League too, they have match against Saudi Arabia, Australia, Bahrain, China and Japan again, they can only win against Bahrain.

Let's go Mitoma, score one goal for me.

Well, Indonesia played more bravely in the first half and initially everything went quite well. And several times Japan was also cornered. Indonesia also succeeded in obtaining several good opportunities, although they failed to take advantage of them. But we are no longer surprised when we see the Indonesian national team players who will weaken mentally after the opponent manages to break into their goal.

I don't know how, but things like this are commonplace. And now Japan has also managed to score the third goal. And yes, more goals could happen if Indonesia doesn't improve this situation immediately. The most important thing is that they have to restore the enthusiasm they had at the start of the first half.

Japan is leading the game with two nil against Indonesia. They're burried Indonesia's chance to finish at the top 3. I meant, Indonesia must beat Japan to qualify for the next round. But, things are not going well for them. Japan is too good to be beaten by Indonesia. The result is clearly showing how big the gap between Japan and Indonesia.

There is something positive shown from Indonesia's game this time when facing Japan. They did not play defensively even though they faced Japan's strong game. Indonesia got several opportunities as did Japan. and now Japan got its first goal in the 35th minute and the 2nd goal in the 40th minute. a really difficult match for Indonesia when they experienced a decline in the game after the first goal. Indonesia must be able to change its game scheme to be able to be more daring to play attacking. If not, maybe there will only be more goals in their goal.

Japan always displays a disciplined game. They always make small passes with small touches which always make it difficult for the opponent. And we know that at the World Cup we always see Japan making things quite difficult for the opposing team. So even though currently I am watching the Indonesia vs Japan match and I support Japan. But I'm always entertained by the Japanese way of playing. They even just scored 1 goal very elegantly. Well, now Indonesia is 1 goal behind. and maybe Japan will add another goal. Because in quality there is a clear difference.

Japan has a solid history of participations in World Cups, but they never managed to reach too far on the competition. They are one of the best national teams from Asia, but when compared to the European and South American national teams, they end not being so competitive. The strongest teams are still the European and South American ones. They are the most likely to win the competition in 2026.

Japan is well know for displaying disciplined, organized, methodical and obedient traits. However, in soccer you also need some creativity, play by ear and authenticity to surprise the adversary and advance in the field. That is what they lack, I suppose. At same time, it's admirable to see how organized Japan's plays are during the matches.

I also hope that there will be a miracle in this match that will bring Indonesia to score points. And I almost couldn't believe that at the start of the match Indonesia already had a golden opportunity to almost break through the Japanese national team's goal. But unfortunately the Indonesian players failed to take advantage of it and this golden opportunity ended up being wasted. And I think it's quite difficult to get the same opportunities.

And now I see another opportunity coming. And again Indonesia failed to take advantage of it. It seems like Indonesia really lacks good players in their attack line. Because they can always create good opportunities through counterattacks. but unfortunately it always fails to be utilized properly.

Indonesia's current weakness is its attack line. Their defenders are quite strong so far. But they don't have a striker who I think is quite dangerous. Most of the strikers they have are not strong enough to control the ball and very often lose the ball when dueling with opposing defenders. I hope they will perform well even though they are facing a strong Japanese team. It's not an easy match for Indonesia, they have to work hard for a positive result. Hopefully, they will play well with the extraordinary support of the fans.

I think hoping to see our team win or get a draw is not wrong. Because it's just a hope, not a prediction. It's different if we predict that Indonesia will be able to beat Japan, then that is really difficult to accept. Because we as Indonesians also realize how different our team is in strength from all the teams in Group C, especially Japan. You just look at the ranking of the Indonesian national team in Fifa, and in fact it has been a miracle for us to be able to hold many of the much better national teams to a draw so far in Group C. And losing to China is also a normal and acceptable thing. So we will still not feel disappointed if the Indonesian national team loses to Japan. because that is a very normal thing. But there's still nothing wrong with hoping that a miracle will come and bring the Indonesian national team to at least a draw. Even though it seems like it's really difficult and it's hard to believe, even hard to hope for.

Don't be too diplomatic, there's nothing wrong if you want to say Indonesia is the worst team, because that's the truth. Japan is ready with their best eleven, there's nothing need to worry for Japan, even they want to underestimate Indonesia or play with B class lineup, they still gonna win the match.

China is better than Indonesia though, they might don't have players who played in Europa, but they have chemistry, winning spirit and never give up.

China has just open their chances to advances to the next round because today they dramatically can win from Bahrain with the final score 1-0 and during the match the tension is very high this because Bahrain as a host can pressed China and Bahrain too can able to dominate the match and this proven from their statistics that Bahrain has 71% ball possessions but these records is useless because they have to lost from this match and for China i think they are fantastic because after suffering 3 losing streak China can able to bounce back and now they can collect 6 points from 5 matches total

In order to qualify they need to win at least one or two matches to start some kind of winning streak, because the fact that they have points from their draws does not help them, because they are in last place. In general, after tomorrow's match, in which there are many chances to lose - they will have 5 more matches to change the situation.

Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't need to be asked if he's going to join the Portugal squad for the 2026 World Cup or not because obviously we know his love for football won't let him turn down such offer especially when he could use that occasion as a last active international competition to retirement.

On the other hand, I agree with you that CR7 presence in the team could serve as motivation for the young talents in the Portugal team, but that notwithstanding, he doesn't have to be played for a full regular time due to age and how he can't really pose much threat to opponents defense as he use to while in his blossoming days. Hence, bringing him after a few minutes left of regual time would really be strategic than letting him play full time with such age. We saw how he wasn't really active enough in the last Euros for Portugal and it was part of many factors that led to them no reaching even the semi's...

In the end, the score does not change until the match is finished. And Australia was held to a 0-0 draw by Saudi Arabia at the AAMI Park stadium. And with this, other teams will actually be able to catch up and could shift Australia's position. As long as you record more goals. Fortunately, Australia's goal record is still superior.

Meanwhile, for the other match in Group C, we saw China surprisingly beat Bahrain with a narrow score of 0-1. And China managed to get 1 goal in the added minute of added time. Automatically, this made it difficult for Bahrain to equalize the score.

And the other match in Group C that has not yet been held is the Indonesia vs Japan match which will be held tomorrow at the GBK stadium. Indonesia will be the host but it seems many are optimistic that Japan will win the match. Because Japan is the strongest in Group C.

Currently, Indonesia is in the bottom position of Group C, they must try harder to be in 4th and 3rd position. Being able to finish in 3rd or 4th position is the plan of the Indonesian coach, and this is a realistic target, considering that Indonesia has a squad depth that is worth considering. Regarding Indonesia's defense line, there is no doubt that Indonesia has a fairly strong defense. By having one of the best goalkeepers in the MLS league, namely Marteen Paes, and several reliable defenders such as Sandy Wals, Jay Idzes, Verdonk, Mees Hilgers and the latest is Kevin Diks. And these defenders have careers in European leagues.

However, the problem in the Indonesian National Team is the midfield and attack line. The reason is, the Indonesian National Team's midfield is considered to be still lacking in creativity in providing forward passes, as well as the attack line which still needs to be improved. Rafael Struick and Ragnar are players who are often relied on by the coach as the spearhead of the Indonesian National Team. However, the two attackers are considered to be still lacking in being able to penetrate the opponent's defense. and Indonesia has lobbied several times for players with Indonesian blood, who play as strikers. Ole Romery and Tijjani are two players targeted by the Indonesian national team to join, but it is very unfortunate that the two players prefer to join the Dutch national team.

I think Indonesia national football team is not low class team and they can win the match against  Saudi Arabia national football team . And most probably they will draw that match. Indonesia national football team has no quality attackers but that team has good defenders which will stop goals. When Indonesia national football team will play against Japan football team they will face difficult because Japan team is best team in football but Indonesia national football team should try to draw that match.Japan team has first position in the ranking and 10 points and  Saudi Arabia national football team is below than Japan but Indonesia national football team should try to win against both teams.

Group C of the Asian Zone World Cup Qualifiers is indeed quite interesting to watch, and this group is called the group of hell because it contains three national teams that regularly compete in the World Cup, namely Japan, Saudi Arabia, and Australia. The other three national teams are Indonesia, Bahrain, and China. Regarding the Indonesian National Team itself, they are new challengers in the second qualifying round of the Asian zone. However, even so, the Indonesian National Team performed quite well by holding the first three matches to a draw, and finally they lost to China in the fourth match, a match that they should have won.

Tomorrow the Indonesian National Team will face Japan, which is the strongest team in Group C. And even though they are up against Indonesia, the Japanese national team does not underestimate Indonesia at all, they will play at the Bung Karno Stadium with full strength. Because they know that currently the Indonesian national team is strengthened by many diaspora players, and most recently Indonesia has just naturalized Kevin Diks, who is a defender who plays in the European league with Copenhagen FC.

I agree with you, that this all depends on who the coach is, whether he needs Ronaldo's services or not to determine Ronaldo will play or not in the 2026 world cup, but even if the coach needs Ronaldo's services to play, Ronaldo does not necessarily agree to want to enter the squad to defend his country, so it takes two parties to agree whether Ronaldo can play or not.

But I feel that Ronaldo will not play, but maybe helping to train or something like that could be possible by Ronaldo to increase motivation and teaching for Portuguese players, after all Ronaldo is a world idol, it is very unlikely that he will not provide input to the depth of the squad if the coach asks him.