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Quote from: armanda90 on March 11, 2023, 07:36:51 AM

Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

As far as I know, the 2026 World Cup will be held on the same date as previous World Cups, excluding Qatar, which would be from June to July.
The dates speculated are from June 8 to July 3, 2026.
Fifa should soon announce the official dates for clubs and confederations to prepare.

The Qatar Cup was the only one played on this different date because of the climate. In the traditional months of June and July it would be practically impossible to hold the matches due to the extreme heat, but this should not happen again.
But you are right, it's not confirmet yet.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 11, 2023, 03:35:21 PM

I am very curious to see India in the next World Cup, I think it is a unique opportunity that they have, now that there are new quotas so that some countries can go and have the opportunity to be in a World Cup for the first time, that It fills an entire country with hope, which means that if it is probable that I can go to this World Cup, the truth is that I would like my country to finally go to a World Cup, I think that the feeling of listening to the country's anthem in a World Cup is a unique feeling, it makes many cry, I do want these teams that have never been to qualify.

My support for the decision to have 48 teams instead of 32 is precisely because countries that have never participated in a World Cup can participate for the first time.
I think that we can have 3 or 4 new teams in the next World Cup, but it would be great if there were 5 or even more new teams. This could help strengthen soccer in many countries.

I don't know Indian soccer that well, but it would be very interesting to see a country with 1.4 billion people cheering for their team.

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Quote from: armanda90 on February 28, 2023, 07:21:55 AM

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I agree on the quality. The Indian team is ranked 104th and they don't even reach the last round of AFC qualifiers most of the times. China is marginally better, and are ranked 80th in FIFA ranking. Two and half decades back, China was included in the top-40, but in due course the quality of their football declined. The problem here is that if you exclude these two countries, there goes 40% of the world's population. I am not in favor of giving direct qualification to these two countries, but there should be some compromise solution which increases the probability of them featuring in the world cup.

India team is not superior not only with World Cup level but also can't qualify to AFC Cup 2024 in Qatar, but not only with India but also China have spent much money last than three years ago and many star player joined with Chinese Super League teams but can't bring positive impact for China can speak more how to qualify in FIFA World Cup.

For Asian team qualify to FIFA World Cup seems dominate by the same teams national on every time World Cup, between Saudi Arabia, Australia, South Korea, Japan and Iran are the most appearance national teams participants in FIFA World Cup.

I am very curious to see India in the next World Cup, I think it is a unique opportunity that they have, now that there are new quotas so that some countries can go and have the opportunity to be in a World Cup for the first time, that It fills an entire country with hope, which means that if it is probable that I can go to this World Cup, the truth is that I would like my country to finally go to a World Cup, I think that the feeling of listening to the country's anthem in a World Cup is a unique feeling, it makes many cry, I do want these teams that have never been to qualify.

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Quote from: Chikito on March 10, 2023, 09:07:23 PM

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

I highly doubt there is a "need" for corruption in this one. I mean it is a very rich nation along with another rich nation with a big football culture nation all got together and that means that we are talking about enough money to have stadiums that are world cup level and enough attention that it does as well as you can hope for. Plus, all the hotels and roads and extra whatevers would be fine as well, there won't be an issue.

I believe that corruption only is valid worry if the nation that won it has absolutely no football background and doesn't even have any money spent on it while just spending the money on getting the world cup. If you are a team that does well enough, then I guess you could win it without worrying about corruption.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on March 11, 2023, 01:14:48 PM

Quote from: Agbe on March 11, 2023, 08:39:54 AM

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Quote from: armanda90 on March 11, 2023, 07:36:51 AM

Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

In fact, so far maybe FIFA has not officially announced that the next World Cup will be held in these three countries. However, as this news is being reported from many media outlets, it is likely to happen. But I believe whatever decision FIFA takes will be happy and convincing to football fans all over the world.

There were many factors that make FIFA to changed the date of 2022 world cup tournament at Qatar. The Coruna Virus played the major role for the changing of the date. When the virus was heating the whole world in 2020 and the first and second quarters of 20221, FIFA made a pronouncement that the date of the world would be shifted and I believed that was why the date was changed. Then also considering the weather at Qatar, although I have not been to Qatar even the world cup tournament I watched it from home TV in my country, so I might not really know the weather condition in the country. Probably FIFA also looked at that angle too.

The change in the calendar of the world cup caused by the Coronavirus had a positive effect on Qatar, as they had more time to remodel the stadium. If they were to play the game during the normal time, Qatar would have needed to prepare the stadiums faster, but in 2026, the host of the world cup won't have this advantage, so I guess all three countries are preparing themselves just in time for the world cup.

That is indeed one of the reasons but that's just the minor ones as Qatar can even remodel their stadium in a much earlier stage without hasting the process because they had 12 years to prepare for it. That was their preparation time, imagine? So, re-modeling their stadiums and Covid-19 wasn't the only factors why the schedule was moved to November.
The reason was that the temperature is quite high if it were to happen in regular schedules in June-July as the temperature in summer can soar up to 40° C while in winter time which was in November to December, it's only 24°C-25°C.

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Quote from: Agbe on March 11, 2023, 08:39:54 AM

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Quote from: armanda90 on March 11, 2023, 07:36:51 AM

Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

In fact, so far maybe FIFA has not officially announced that the next World Cup will be held in these three countries. However, as this news is being reported from many media outlets, it is likely to happen. But I believe whatever decision FIFA takes will be happy and convincing to football fans all over the world.

There were many factors that make FIFA to changed the date of 2022 world cup tournament at Qatar. The Coruna Virus played the major role for the changing of the date. When the virus was heating the whole world in 2020 and the first and second quarters of 20221, FIFA made a pronouncement that the date of the world would be shifted and I believed that was why the date was changed. Then also considering the weather at Qatar, although I have not been to Qatar even the world cup tournament I watched it from home TV in my country, so I might not really know the weather condition in the country. Probably FIFA also looked at that angle too.

The change in the calendar of the world cup caused by the Coronavirus had a positive effect on Qatar, as they had more time to remodel the stadium. If they were to play the game during the normal time, Qatar would have needed to prepare the stadiums faster, but in 2026, the host of the world cup won't have this advantage, so I guess all three countries are preparing themselves just in time for the world cup.

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Quote from: Agbe on March 11, 2023, 08:39:54 AM

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Quote from: armanda90 on March 11, 2023, 07:36:51 AM

Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

In fact, so far maybe FIFA has not officially announced that the next World Cup will be held in these three countries. However, as this news is being reported from many media outlets, it is likely to happen. But I believe whatever decision FIFA takes will be happy and convincing to football fans all over the world.

There were many factors that make FIFA to changed the date of 2022 world cup tournament at Qatar. The Coruna Virus played the major role for the changing of the date. When the virus was heating the whole world in 2020 and the first and second quarters of 20221, FIFA made a pronouncement that the date of the world would be shifted and I believed that was why the date was changed. Then also considering the weather at Qatar, although I have not been to Qatar even the world cup tournament I watched it from home TV in my country, so I might not really know the weather condition in the country. Probably FIFA also looked at that angle too.

The coronavirus was certainly the main reason for changing the calendar of many major world competitions, including the Olympic Games in Japan.
However, the decision to hold the world championship in Qatar at the end of the year was made long before the Covid 19 pandemic, solely because of the weather conditions in Qatar during the summer.
It was clear to everyone that the heat in the summer in Qatar is a major limiting factor for holding the World Cup in football and that is why FIFA, at the request of numerous representations, made a historic decision to hold the World Cup in winter for the first time.
Covid 19 was no longer a significant factor in 2022 anyway, and the decision when the world championship will be held in Qatar was made at least 8 years before.

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Quote from: armanda90 on March 11, 2023, 07:36:51 AM

Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

In fact, so far maybe FIFA has not officially announced that the next World Cup will be held in these three countries. However, as this news is being reported from many media outlets, it is likely to happen. But I believe whatever decision FIFA takes will be happy and convincing to football fans all over the world.

There were many factors that make FIFA to changed the date of 2022 world cup tournament at Qatar. The Coruna Virus played the major role for the changing of the date. When the virus was heating the whole world in 2020 and the first and second quarters of 20221, FIFA made a pronouncement that the date of the world would be shifted and I believed that was why the date was changed. Then also considering the weather at Qatar, although I have not been to Qatar even the world cup tournament I watched it from home TV in my country, so I might not really know the weather condition in the country. Probably FIFA also looked at that angle too.

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Quote from: armanda90 on March 11, 2023, 07:36:51 AM

Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

In fact, so far maybe FIFA has not officially announced that the next World Cup will be held in these three countries. However, as this news is being reported from many media outlets, it is likely to happen. But I believe whatever decision FIFA takes will be happy and convincing to football fans all over the world.

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Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

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Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

If the World Cup is held in 3 countries I think the fans and supporters will suffer a bit. But FIFA is always trying to find innovation, perhaps by hosting the World Cup in these three countries, we will find something new and everyone will be able to enjoy it.

But I think I didn't understand why they had to choose three countries instead of one, I mean during the last world cup Qatar hosted the whole world cup games they had no problems while Qatar is a smaller country and they had to build stadiums for the role cup and not America or Canada both got more potential and they could even host the whole world cup in one country instead of three.

This innovation is just to give an exciting turn to fifa world cup and there are chances of it to be a total disaster as how the fans will move freely in between countries with their supporting teams . This is a big question mark and this will be solved in 2026.
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Quote from: og kush420 on March 11, 2023, 03:38:54 AM

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

With 3 countries hosting the World Cup it will be the first time, but we already had the 2002 World Cup in South Korea and Japan, and it was a success.
I believe it will be an excellent event, even more so for the three countries in question.
Why do you think it will not be successful?

Quote from: Chikito on March 10, 2023, 09:07:23 PM

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

In my opinion, a World Cup hosted in the United States, Canada, and Mexico makes perfect sense, and it was a great choice.
For 2030 we could have 4 South American countries (Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, and Chile) or Spain, Portugal, and Ukraine, which also makes perfect sense to me and will be great choices again.

What was not a good choice and was totally questionable was holding a World Cup in Russia followed by one in Qatar, the criteria made no sense at all.
What I mean by all this is that in the past these choices have been very questionable, but something seems to have improved within FIFA, hopefully.
I don't believe there can be corruption with the US confederations for example, since they led the previous investigations against FIFA and its former presidents.

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Quote from: sovie on March 11, 2023, 05:13:11 AM

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Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

If the World Cup is held in 3 countries I think the fans and supporters will suffer a bit. But FIFA is always trying to find innovation, perhaps by hosting the World Cup in these three countries, we will find something new and everyone will be able to enjoy it.

But I think I didn't understand why they had to choose three countries instead of one, I mean during the last world cup Qatar hosted the whole world cup games they had no problems while Qatar is a smaller country and they had to build stadiums for the role cup and not America or Canada both got more potential and they could even host the whole world cup in one country instead of three.

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Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

If the World Cup is held in 3 countries I think the fans and supporters will suffer a bit. But FIFA is always trying to find innovation, perhaps by hosting the World Cup in these three countries, we will find something new and everyone will be able to enjoy it.

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Quote from: Chikito on March 10, 2023, 09:07:23 PM

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Quote from: beerlover on March 10, 2023, 01:04:49 PM

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

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Quote from: beerlover on March 10, 2023, 01:04:49 PM

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 10, 2023, 04:35:12 PM

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A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

Well, it's not like organizations are created out of thin air. They are created by people.

If you change people to others that are not corrupt, then they would make changes to the organization, making the whole thing less prone to corruption.

It's a cycle, if you have corrupt people things start to degrade, and if you have great people, things start to improve.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 10, 2023, 04:35:12 PM

Quote from: beerlover on March 10, 2023, 01:04:49 PM

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

Once it had happened and then the officials gets used to it. This is how corruption continues even when the officials weren't interested to take bribe. The involvement of businessman corruption can be eradicated, but when we move towards the national team businessman weren't able to make certain decisions. It is said that Qatar bribed the officials and got the hosting rights. I'm not sure of it, if that's true some other country will be allocating a big fund and waiting for its turn. This is how it continues.

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Quote from: beerlover on March 10, 2023, 01:04:49 PM

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 10, 2023, 08:44:10 AM

Quote from: keyscore44 on March 10, 2023, 07:00:26 AM

I think every country that didn't qualify for the World Cup should be given one friendly match in the World Cup. Then the teams will develop the spirit of World Cup and work hard to qualify for the World Cup. This issue needs to be considered by the FIFA authorities.

Well.. this is a very good idea. Something like this can be considered - FIFA should organize one warmup match for each of the 48 participating nations one or two days before the start of the world cup. And teams that are ranked from 49 to 96 can take part in these warmup matches. This will also help the participating nations to get adjusted to the climatic conditions. And for FIFA, it will provide some additional revenue. Finally, for the teams that were unfortunate to miss the qualification, these matches will give a taste of the main competition.

It can actually be a good plan. By doing this, the teams who did not get the experience of playing in the World Cup will try to get it later and prepare themselves better for playing in the main tournament. As a result, I hope that the next World Cups will be more magnificent. However, the FIFA authority should really think about this matter.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 09, 2023, 10:05:20 PM

Corruption will exist as long as the member nations are provided with equal voting rights. For example, for deciding the hosts for FIFA World Cup, Argentina and Brazil have the same voting rights as Palau or Nauru. And this is one of the reasons why there is so much corruption within FIFA. These smaller nations can be easily bribed. Qatar spent $300 billion to host the 2022 World Cup. Don't you think that they will bother paying a few million USD to bribe some of the small island nations to vote for them? And this is exactly how Qatar got the hosting rights for the 2022 edition.

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

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