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It is often possible to see the Chicago skyline from sea-level 60 miles away across Lake Michigan. In 2015 after photographer Joshua Nowicki photographed this phenomenon several news channels quickly claimed his picture to be a “superior mirage,” an atmospheric anomaly caused by temperature inversion. While these certainly do occur, the skyline in question was facing right-side up and clearly seen unlike a hazy illusory mirage, and on a ball-Earth 25,000 miles in circumference should be 2,400 feet below the horizon.




From Genoa, Italy 70 feet above sea-level, the island of Capraia 102 miles away can often be seen as well. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Capraia should always remain hidden behind 5,605 feet, over a mile of supposed curvature.




Also from Genoa, on bright clear days, the island of Elba can be seen an incredible 125 miles away! If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Elba should be forever invisible behind 8770 feet of curvature.




In Chambers’ Journal, February 1895, a sailor near Mauritius in the Indian Ocean reported having seen a vessel which turned out to be an incredible 200 miles away! The incident caused much heated debate in nautical circles at the time, gaining further confirmation in Aden, Yemen where another witness reported seeing a missing Bombay steamer from 200 miles away. He correctly stated the precise appearance, location and direction of the steamer all later corroborated and confirmed correct by those onboard. Such sightings are absolutely inexplicable if the Earth were actually a ball 25,000 miles around, as ships 200 miles distant would have to fall approximately 5 miles below line of sight!

You didn't even bother to read the Wiki on this, or look into all the repeated tests showing curvature, did you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment#Refraction

It's called atmospheric refraction which creates a superior image mirage.  When you devise an experiment that avoids this problem, you will get a result of curvature e.g. like Alfred Wallace did when he set up 3 poles in a line in the canal, setting a sight line from the 1st pole to the 3rd pole several feet above the water rather than a few inches to compensate for atmospheric refraction.  When you do this, you will find the middle pole is significantly higher than the outer two, proving curvature.

Because physics.

Samuel Rowbotham’s experiments at the Old Bedford Level proved conclusively the canal’s water to be completely flat over a 6 mile stretch. First he stood in the canal with his telescope held 8 inches above the surface of the water, then his friend in a boat with a 5 foot tall flag sailed the 6 miles away. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference the 6 mile stretch of water should have comprised an arc exactly 6 feet high in the middle, so the entire boat and flag should have ultimately disappeared, when in fact the entire boat and flag remained visible at the same height for the entire journey.


In a second experiment Dr. Rowbotham affixed flags 5 feet high along the shoreline, one at every mile marker. Then using his telescope mounted at 5 feet just behind the first flag looked over the tops of all 6 flags which lined up in a perfectly straight line. If the Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference the flags should have progressively dipped down after the first establishing line of sight, the second would have descended 8 inches, 32 inches for the third, 6 feet for the fourth, 10 feet 8 inches for the fifth, and 16 feet 8 inches for the sixth.

Lol  

Okay, you earned one more response.


Altitude is relative, i.e. "How high is x compared to y?" When the sun is below the horizon, it has negative altitude relative to the 2-D plane connecting your eyes and the horizon, which is why you can't see the sun when it's below the horizon (earth is opaque).  In this case, the sun has negative altitude relative to the visual plane.  When you are up in an airplane, you see the sun while observers on the earth cannot because the 2-D plane connecting your eyes and the horizon are now at a downward angle compared to that of observers on the ground.  Because the angle of your scope now extends across a plane that is angled downward, you see the sun again; its altitude is above the visual plane.

I can't believe I'm explaining this.


Cropped off?  No...no it hasn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fata_Morgana_(mirage)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage


Um, you can see the sun reflect on the water when 1) any part of the sun is above the water and 2) your eyes are above the water.  You realize water reflects light, yes?

Ah, I see.  At this level of misunderstanding, I realize there is nothing I can possibly say that would reconcile that.  This post is so beyond absurd that it's just not worth it.

The Sun has something the boat doesn't and that's altitude. The greater the altitude the farther away from the vanishing point the object becomes and farther you can see it. For example if you're flying in a plane just before Sunset you'll still see light while the people on the ground will be in darkness.

Also, that's a great picture of the Sun setting BTW, I can see the bottom 1/4 has been cropped off though. How do you explain the reflection of the Sun on the water...

Fake edit:

Oh and I can see somebody beat me to my point about the reflection of the Sun on the water. LOL

Edited last post for better picture.

I have no idea what your post is suggesting.  Yes, the sun's light will still reach you directly if you if its path isn't blocked (duh).  I guess in your fantasy the distance of the vanishing point changes depending on the object.  Please respond to the actual point.

Yeh i can see the sun set and it comes right to my feet. I guess in your fantasy she is bending around the curvature (8 inch squared for every mile) to reach the beach. LOL

Your brain is a vanishing point.

You can see the sun set.  The sun is much, much, much farther away than the boat.  What does it tell you when you can no longer see the boat, but you can still see the sun, which by flat earth standards would still be over a hundred times farther away?

No. Just...no.

That is true but even if you use a binoculars (or any other magnification device) and try to spot the boat, you still won't be able to spot it, no matter how much you zoom in. This is because the boat is behind the curve of the earth.

Actually it's because the boat has gone past the "vanishing point".

I found a picture of "the horizon".



I "look well" at it and it's still flat. 

When you watch a boat floating on the ocean it disappears after a while, this is because the earth is curved. The boat goes out of sight because it goes around the curve of the earth.
The boat literally hides behind the curve of the earth.
This proves that the earth is round.

look well the horizon, and you'll know that the earth isn't flat

Flat earth? Are we in medieval time again?

There is two facts so far: Home is flat and not rotating.

My personal opinion about setup is a Donat type dome with a "soft" and hard edge.
Magnetic North Pol the gate to other dimensions. Geographic north pol is a distraction nothing else.

Private rocket hit it at 73 miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlJ7kdJOTUI
Short version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcp3BFBYw4
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For me it's no longer a question of "if" as I can prove the Earth is flat with a telephoto lens.

Antarctica is strictly off limits and the only current option to travel there are guided tours. If you try to go off on your own you'll be met with military force. So there really is no direct way to find out what's beyond Antarctica.

Personally I like the theory that Earth is an infinite plane dotted with many Suns that melt pools to form oceans; infinite Earths/planets.

Other theories include a disk shaped earth covered by a dome (firmament) surrounded by water where "they" tell us space/vacuum is suppose to be.

Another totally "out there" theory is "The Matrix" Earth theory with a so-called "soft barrier" beyond Antarctica.

Since in Australia everything is the opposite it must be a true point for the flat earth!

one simple question, if the earth would be flat,  then what is at the edge?  space?