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October 01, 2015, 07:49:59 AM
I looked a little further into this and had two reactions:

1) I was surprised at the depth of explanation and creative thinking of flat earth models.

2) I slapped myself.

Where to begin?

A) If the sun and moon are 3000 miles away and are rotating above a flat earth, both would be visible at all times.  Because trigonometry.

B) If there is no gravity, and if the atmosphere isn't rotating along with the earth, and if the earth is accelerating upwards at the rate of gravity, then why doesn't the Earth slam into the clouds, or the sun and moon for that matter?

C) If there is both gravity and a flat earth, why don't people at the edges of the earth tumble back to the center?

D) Explain the speed of light, e.g. why does light from the moon reach us significantly faster than from the Sun?

E) Explain wind and tides.

How many do you need?  I like that people aren't afraid to question conventional thinking, but I'm getting tired of face-palming.
A) 1. Most places have between 50-100% humidity all the time so the 'dirtier' the water the shorter the distance you can see.
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ0dMJEjsk&feature=youtu.be&t=1512

B) 1, Earth is stationary. (earth is accelerating upwards, wat? )  
     2. There is no Gravity
     3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgnVRdQ7wg0

C) There is no Gravity and there is a Flat Earth and density

D) It needs determined what the moon is, certainly not a rocky sphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdyYKGeSekQ
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUW3BKYpsw

E) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg2deAEhoF4



Something for the Globots to explain, I am waiting.


A)  Humidity?   I know what you're suggesting, but no.  I think you missed my post above where I asked what one might infer from a sun half-visible above the horizon line.  While to the prior poster the important point was that the sun is apparently just as large as when it is directly above you (goodbye 'vanishing point' idea), to you I would point out that it is also just as clear (goodbye 'dirty water' idea).  The Sun doesn't get hazy or blurry just before sunset, nor is it blurry or hazy at sunrise.  What you do see, however, is Earth blocking the Sun's otherwise clear visibility.

B & C) If there is no gravity but just density, why don't the Sun and Moon fall on us?  You mean to tell me from that picture you believe the Sun and Moon are less dense than air?

D)  Skipping this for a second, because...

E)  ...this is just falling apart now.  First of all, generally speaking, this video is suggesting that the Sun and the Moon are responsible for the tides.  Well...yeah.  The Moon "is" responsible for the tides, just in a different way.  Second of all, electromagnetism?  Wait a minute, back in B&C you're suggesting the moon is less dense than air.  So, what could the Sun and Moon be if they are 1) less dense than air, 2) are capable of generating such a strong electromagnetic field with so little mass (and no rotation? Or...)?  From "D" we know you don't know, so don't you think you ought to figure that out before jumping to such conclusions?  

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism

F)  I'm not even sure what the picture means.  Is it saying 1) The curvature in the bridge doesn't exist or 2) design to compensate for the curvature doesn't exist or 3) both?

A) My home town right now has over 90% humidity and sun shines. Back to your trigonometry. Here are some basic vids, I am certain there are better once around but you get the drift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52_PdZlSq8
       Watch it twice you too can (un)learn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRlsvWj8Hc                  


B & C & E) From information available to date it appears moon is some sort of glowing magnet. One thing is certain it is different from east to west. Like a projector screen hanging in the middle of the room and from front and back the same image has a mirrored image.
 A lot of people providing some really good info. A lot more than NASA's blue marble painting where they can't even deceit how big to paint America (or did it grow over the years)


D) Yes so much to unlearn.




F)  Design to compensate for the curvature and curvature in the bridge don't exist. Hello, 1.3 miles (2km) drop.

G) Yeh looks totaly natural (4 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2NM3PRbAg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2NM3PRbAg

A)  These are anything but "back to your trigonometry."  It's more like, "Let me distract you with other models so I never have to explain why the Sun and Moon aren't both visible at all times to everyone on the planet."

B,C,E)  You don't get to have it all ways without an explanation.  You're suggesting 1) the Moon is a magnet, 2) but is less dense than air, and at its proposed size would have so little relativistic mass that it couldn't generate that kind of electromagnetic field, 3) is like a projection, but a...magnet.   Plus, 4) it seems you don't know what the Sun is, either, as it would need to adhere to your density idea, too.

D) At least you don't have as much to unlearn.  I think flat-earthers fall into two categories: 1) Pretty intelligent people with stubborn, contrarian attitudes that will do anything they can to make a contrarian idea work, or 2) people who will believe anything they are told.

F) What do you think the difference is between making a bridge of any small length vs. a bridge of longer length?  The curvature is the same regardless. It's even possible for straight girders to form curved paths on bridges; they're used all the time. You could build a bridge around the world without issue.  I think using the word "drop" is misleading you.  It's curvature, not a "drop."  It doesn't "drop" anywhere.  I'm having difficulty responding to this because I'm still having a hard time understanding what you're conceptualizing.  Regardless, it's not an issue.

G) I have to go to work.  No time to look at this.  Summarize?
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October 01, 2015, 05:37:03 AM
I looked a little further into this and had two reactions:

1) I was surprised at the depth of explanation and creative thinking of flat earth models.

2) I slapped myself.

Where to begin?

A) If the sun and moon are 3000 miles away and are rotating above a flat earth, both would be visible at all times.  Because trigonometry.

B) If there is no gravity, and if the atmosphere isn't rotating along with the earth, and if the earth is accelerating upwards at the rate of gravity, then why doesn't the Earth slam into the clouds, or the sun and moon for that matter?

C) If there is both gravity and a flat earth, why don't people at the edges of the earth tumble back to the center?

D) Explain the speed of light, e.g. why does light from the moon reach us significantly faster than from the Sun?

E) Explain wind and tides.

How many do you need?  I like that people aren't afraid to question conventional thinking, but I'm getting tired of face-palming.
A) 1. Most places have between 50-100% humidity all the time so the 'dirtier' the water the shorter the distance you can see.
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ0dMJEjsk&feature=youtu.be&t=1512

B) 1, Earth is stationary. (earth is accelerating upwards, wat? )  
     2. There is no Gravity
     3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgnVRdQ7wg0

C) There is no Gravity and there is a Flat Earth and density

D) It needs determined what the moon is, certainly not a rocky sphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdyYKGeSekQ
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUW3BKYpsw

E) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg2deAEhoF4



Something for the Globots to explain, I am waiting.


A)  Humidity?   I know what you're suggesting, but no.  I think you missed my post above where I asked what one might infer from a sun half-visible above the horizon line.  While to the prior poster the important point was that the sun is apparently just as large as when it is directly above you (goodbye 'vanishing point' idea), to you I would point out that it is also just as clear (goodbye 'dirty water' idea).  The Sun doesn't get hazy or blurry just before sunset, nor is it blurry or hazy at sunrise.  What you do see, however, is Earth blocking the Sun's otherwise clear visibility.

B & C) If there is no gravity but just density, why don't the Sun and Moon fall on us?  You mean to tell me from that picture you believe the Sun and Moon are less dense than air?

D)  Skipping this for a second, because...

E)  ...this is just falling apart now.  First of all, generally speaking, this video is suggesting that the Sun and the Moon are responsible for the tides.  Well...yeah.  The Moon "is" responsible for the tides, just in a different way.  Second of all, electromagnetism?  Wait a minute, back in B&C you're suggesting the moon is less dense than air.  So, what could the Sun and Moon be if they are 1) less dense than air, 2) are capable of generating such a strong electromagnetic field with so little mass (and no rotation? Or...)?  From "D" we know you don't know, so don't you think you ought to figure that out before jumping to such conclusions?  

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism

F)  I'm not even sure what the picture means.  Is it saying 1) The curvature in the bridge doesn't exist or 2) design to compensate for the curvature doesn't exist or 3) both?

A) My home town right now has over 90% humidity and sun shines. Back to your trigonometry. Here are some basic vids, I am certain there are better once around but you get the drift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52_PdZlSq8
       Watch it twice you too can (un)learn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRlsvWj8Hc                  


B & C & E) From information available to date it appears moon is some sort of glowing magnet. One thing is certain it is different from east to west. Like a projector screen hanging in the middle of the room and from front and back the same image has a mirrored image.
 A lot of people providing some really good info. A lot more than NASA's blue marble painting where they can't even deceit how big to paint America (or did it grow over the years)


D) Yes so much to unlearn.




F)  Design to compensate for the curvature and curvature in the bridge don't exist. Hello, 1.3 miles (2km) drop.

G) Yeh looks totaly natural (4 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2NM3PRbAg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2NM3PRbAg
legendary
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September 30, 2015, 11:29:35 PM
I looked a little further into this and had two reactions:

1) I was surprised at the depth of explanation and creative thinking of flat earth models.

2) I slapped myself.

Where to begin?

A) If the sun and moon are 3000 miles away and are rotating above a flat earth, both would be visible at all times.  Because trigonometry.

B) If there is no gravity, and if the atmosphere isn't rotating along with the earth, and if the earth is accelerating upwards at the rate of gravity, then why doesn't the Earth slam into the clouds, or the sun and moon for that matter?

C) If there is both gravity and a flat earth, why don't people at the edges of the earth tumble back to the center?

D) Explain the speed of light, e.g. why does light from the moon reach us significantly faster than from the Sun?

E) Explain wind and tides.

How many do you need?  I like that people aren't afraid to question conventional thinking, but I'm getting tired of face-palming.
A) 1. Most places have between 50-100% humidity all the time so the 'dirtier' the water the shorter the distance you can see.
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ0dMJEjsk&feature=youtu.be&t=1512

B) 1, Earth is stationary. (earth is accelerating upwards, wat? )  
     2. There is no Gravity
     3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgnVRdQ7wg0

C) There is no Gravity and there is a Flat Earth and density

D) It needs determined what the moon is, certainly not a rocky sphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdyYKGeSekQ
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUW3BKYpsw

E) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg2deAEhoF4



Something for the Globots to explain, I am waiting.


A)  Humidity?   I know what you're suggesting, but no.  I think you missed my post above where I asked what one might infer from a sun half-visible above the horizon line.  While to the prior poster the important point was that the sun is apparently just as large as when it is directly above you (goodbye 'vanishing point' idea), to you I would point out that it is also just as clear (goodbye 'dirty water' idea).  The Sun doesn't get hazy or blurry just before sunset, nor is it blurry or hazy at sunrise.  What you do see, however, is Earth blocking the Sun's otherwise clear visibility.

B & C) If there is no gravity but just density, why don't the Sun and Moon fall on us?  You mean to tell me from that picture you believe the Sun and Moon are less dense than air?

D)  Skipping this for a second, because...

E)  ...this is just falling apart now.  First of all, generally speaking, this video is suggesting that the Sun and the Moon are responsible for the tides.  Well...yeah.  The Moon "is" responsible for the tides, just in a different way.  Second of all, electromagnetism?  Wait a minute, back in B&C you're suggesting the moon is less dense than air.  So, what could the Sun and Moon be if they are 1) less dense than air, 2) are capable of generating such a strong electromagnetic field with so little mass (and no rotation? Or...)?  From "D" we know you don't know, so don't you think you ought to figure that out before jumping to such conclusions?  

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism

F)  I'm not even sure what the picture means.  Is it saying 1) The curvature in the bridge doesn't exist or 2) design to compensate for the curvature doesn't exist or 3) both?
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September 30, 2015, 06:12:19 PM
I looked a little further into this and had two reactions:

1) I was surprised at the depth of explanation and creative thinking of flat earth models.

2) I slapped myself.

Where to begin?

A) If the sun and moon are 3000 miles away and are rotating above a flat earth, both would be visible at all times.  Because trigonometry.

B) If there is no gravity, and if the atmosphere isn't rotating along with the earth, and if the earth is accelerating upwards at the rate of gravity, then why doesn't the Earth slam into the clouds, or the sun and moon for that matter?

C) If there is both gravity and a flat earth, why don't people at the edges of the earth tumble back to the center?

D) Explain the speed of light, e.g. why does light from the moon reach us significantly faster than from the Sun?

E) Explain wind and tides.

How many do you need?  I like that people aren't afraid to question conventional thinking, but I'm getting tired of face-palming.
A) 1. Most places have between 50-100% humidity all the time so the 'dirtier' the water the shorter the distance you can see.
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ0dMJEjsk&feature=youtu.be&t=1512

B) 1, Earth is stationary. (earth is accelerating upwards, wat?
     2. There is no Gravity
     3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgnVRdQ7wg0

C) There is no Gravity and there is a Flat Earth and density

D) It needs determined what the moon is, certainly not a rocky sphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdyYKGeSekQ
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUW3BKYpsw

E) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg2deAEhoF4



Something for the Globots to explain, I am waiting.
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September 30, 2015, 04:10:04 PM
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September 30, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

https://i.imgur.com/1FL8pEp.jpg

Go to a church, ask them what they believe.  The truth is usually the opposite.

Haha your comment made me laugh.
legendary
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September 30, 2015, 01:39:02 PM
I looked a little further into this and had two reactions:

1) I was surprised at the depth of explanation and creative thinking of flat earth models.

2) I slapped myself.

Where to begin?

A) If the sun and moon are 3000 miles away and are rotating above a flat earth, both would be visible at all times.  Because trigonometry.
Lots of things seem good in theory but go out the window in practice. In reality no object can bee seen beyond its vanishing point not to mention the Sun and Moon have a spotlight effect being projections and all.
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B) If there is no gravity, and if the atmosphere isn't rotating along with the earth, and if the earth is accelerating upwards at the rate of gravity, then why doesn't the Earth slam into the clouds, or the sun and moon for that matter?
Wait, who says the Earth is accelerating upwards?
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C) If there is both gravity and a flat earth, why don't people at the edges of the earth tumble back to the center?
Scientists still struggle with the mysteries of static cling.
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D) Explain the speed of light, e.g. why does light from the moon reach us significantly faster than from the Sun?
Light from the Moon and Sun both travel at the speed of light in whatever medium it's traveling through. How does one go about measuring the age of a photon?
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E) Explain wind and tides.
The wind blows as it always has and tides continue to rise and fall, only your perception has changed. The Sun doesn't behave any differently now that you know it's closer than you thought.
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How many do you need?  I like that people aren't afraid to question conventional thinking, but I'm getting tired of face-palming.

You see the problem here is the devil is in the details, the NASA logo is an anagram for Satan and prominently displays the forked tongue of a snake. Other than evidence provided by an agency born from Nazi operation paperclip as a propaganda tool, there's nothing but the musings of a senile old Greek philosopher to back up the Globe Earth Theory that's regurgitated by the Royal Society. The whole thing reeks of vomit and piss from all the goof they've been drinking.

Keep slapping, eventually you'll sober up!

1)  Vanishing point?  Uh, what?  In this case it's called a horizon.  You also can't see something when something is blocking it, like Earth.  You're likening the visible disappearance of the sun/moon, which by optical illusion actually appears "larger" near the horizon, to something like the apparent convergence of train tracks off in the distance?  What does it tell you then when half the sun is above the horizon (and at virtually the same apparent size as when it's directly above you) and the bottom half isn't visible? It's super elongated or something? Please.  I'll ignore the fact you said "projections."

2) Some flat earth documentary is purporting Earth is accelerating upwards.  I guess people who believe in the flat earth model can't agree upon the model.  Hey, at least they realized there is a problem synthesizing gravity with the flat earth model, and so they attempted to reconcile it, albeit poorly.

3) "I don't have an explanation, but trust me guys!"

4) Hint: light from the moon reaches us faster than light from the sun because it travels trough the same medium (space) and the moon is closer.

5) I said to explain winds and tides, as in "why are there winds and tides if flat earth?" "They are there" doesn't explain why they are there.

6) Oh the irony of telling me to sober up after that last paragraph, and after everything preceding it.
legendary
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September 30, 2015, 12:07:41 PM
I looked a little further into this and had two reactions:

1) I was surprised at the depth of explanation and creative thinking of flat earth models.

2) I slapped myself.

Where to begin?

A) If the sun and moon are 3000 miles away and are rotating above a flat earth, both would be visible at all times.  Because trigonometry.
Lots of things seem good in theory but go out the window in practice. In reality no object can bee seen beyond its vanishing point not to mention the Sun and Moon have a spotlight effect being projections and all.
Quote
B) If there is no gravity, and if the atmosphere isn't rotating along with the earth, and if the earth is accelerating upwards at the rate of gravity, then why doesn't the Earth slam into the clouds, or the sun and moon for that matter?
Wait, who says the Earth is accelerating upwards?
Quote
C) If there is both gravity and a flat earth, why don't people at the edges of the earth tumble back to the center?
Scientists still struggle with the mysteries of static cling.
Quote
D) Explain the speed of light, e.g. why does light from the moon reach us significantly faster than from the Sun?
Light from the Moon and Sun both travel at the speed of light in whatever medium it's traveling through. How does one go about measuring the age of a photon?
Quote
E) Explain wind and tides.
The wind blows as it always has and tides continue to rise and fall, only your perception has changed. The Sun doesn't behave any differently now that you know it's closer than you thought.
Quote

How many do you need?  I like that people aren't afraid to question conventional thinking, but I'm getting tired of face-palming.

You see the problem here is the devil is in the details, the NASA logo is an anagram for Satan and prominently displays the forked tongue of a snake. Other than evidence provided by an agency born from Nazi operation paperclip as a propaganda tool, there's nothing but the musings of a senile old Greek philosopher to back up the Globe Earth Theory that's regurgitated by the Royal Society. The whole thing reeks of vomit and piss from all the goof they've been drinking.

Keep slapping, eventually you'll sober up!
legendary
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September 30, 2015, 10:54:32 AM
I looked a little further into this and had two reactions:

1) I was surprised at the depth of explanation and creative thinking of flat earth models.

2) I slapped myself.

Where to begin?

A) If the sun and moon are 3000 miles away and are rotating above a flat earth, both would be visible at all times.  Because trigonometry.

B) If there is no gravity, and if the atmosphere isn't rotating along with the earth, and if the earth is accelerating upwards at the rate of gravity, then why doesn't the Earth slam into the clouds, or the sun and moon for that matter?

C) If there is both gravity and a flat earth, why don't people at the edges of the earth tumble back to the center?

D) Explain the speed of light, e.g. why does light from the moon reach us significantly faster than from the Sun?

E) Explain wind and tides.

How many do you need?  I like that people aren't afraid to question conventional thinking, but I'm getting tired of face-palming.
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September 26, 2015, 10:21:47 AM

I've developed some quite unusual theories about how the Moon works based on the Flat Earth Theory, I suppose the Sun works in the same way but with an opposite polarity. See the Holographic Moon thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/holographic-moon-1141421
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September 26, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
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September 23, 2015, 02:14:26 AM
Why this dicsussion? Are we back in middel Ages?

The discussion is quite interesting actually, he is asking for an experiment that anyone can do to prove to themselves that earth is not flat, wich might not be that easy to find.
Yes. It's very interesting. They prove their opinions about it.
How about you? Do you believe that the earth is a flat one?
I can't say with confidence that I believe all the evidence of the flat earth theory and I definitely don't believe all the evidence of the round earth theory Cheesy
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September 23, 2015, 01:51:56 AM

Flat Earth Documentary
https://youtu.be/kFjG4jpUhQI
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September 22, 2015, 11:33:32 PM
If it wasn't round, we could run for miles, and fall off the planet. Hm....


Your idea has excited and interested me.
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September 22, 2015, 11:28:46 PM
I am researching the concept of a flat earth. Difficult to do, considering the paucity of science and research.
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September 21, 2015, 12:40:33 PM

The book of Enoch is a slam-dunk for the Flat Earthers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Jpr3kGQXM
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September 20, 2015, 12:09:08 PM
However he is wrong with the infinite plane it is most likely a dome (glass or ice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB3rLI6piSs
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September 18, 2015, 06:14:59 AM
When the "Columbuses" of our time travel through the poles gateways the modern slave system will come to a halt.

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So the poles are not really the poles but rather exits to an infinite greater flat earth.  Beyond the poles, the earth is flat and infinite in size, so you can travel light years upon light years beyond the poles over endless flat "greater" earth (universe about us)  The hollow earth is a myth created to hide the real truth about the nature of earth's assumed poles and the reality of the continual universe. The ancient legends speak of the land called Hyperborea, a massive continent set to be located beyond the north pole. The legends also speak of a land beyond the poles known as Agartha, the conspiracy and disinformation agents claim that these lands are the within hollow earth, the truth is that both Agartha and Hyperborea are literally out of this known world, beyond the poles, located on infinite flat earth.
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Trollers trolololing Trolls.
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