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May 07, 2015, 01:58:28 PM
#63
hmm but how do explain constant mass and distance without expressing evidence that originated only from your senses.. could you explain it only through precisely rational thought without using anything from subjective experience that would make sense to me were i an ai in a computer that had never witnessed or experienced these phenomena? how do you know i am not an ai talking to you right now? could you prove it?
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May 07, 2015, 01:48:24 PM
#62
How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

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Slightly off-topic, as it sort of involves you trusting a third party, but Vsauce did a video about whether the Earth is flat, late last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs (10m30s) - it's pretty good, and informative. Also, he included a large amount of links in the video description, where you can get additional information.

Consider that when you view things as they move away from you, perhaps they are really NOT moving away from you. Perhaps what is happening is that you and the object are actually exchanging some form of energy that causes you to actually become larger, and the object become smaller with relation to you.

When you throw a ball at the object that has moved away from you, all that you are really doing is transferring a certain kind of energy between you, the object, and the ball. As the ball moves away from you, it loses size even though we interpret it as gaining distance. With relation to the object, the ball gains size, even though to the object, the ball seems to have lost distance.

With a few twists to the concept of warp theory (yes, like Star Trek, but the real thing that Einstein and others formulated), things might be that there is virtually no distance between us and anything else. Wormholes that connect things that seem to be distant, might simply be energy transference "equations" that change the size relationships between various objects. Wormholes might be around us all the time, numbering in the millions, depending on the variety and numbers of "places" that we individually observe or are otherwise aware of.

We interpret distance. We interpret how we change distance between ourselves and other things. We calculate the amount of energy that it takes to "move things across such distances." But maybe it is all a trick of the mind, designed by God or nature to maintain order in the universe. Maybe with a little bit of the right kind of quantum math and mechanics, combined with a little change in the way that we think about things, we might be able to move between the earth, and planets that revolve around other stars, with just as much ease as we walk across the street.

Perhaps the ancients tapped into this "state of mind." Perhaps the piling up of the blocks of the Great Pyramid was accomplished through mental control of "short distance" wormholes. Perhaps the movie, Jumper, is not that far off after all.

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If things are getting bigger/smaller instead of closer/farther, then explain why mass doesn't change.  Also, explain why, if Person B stands between Persons B and C, and then walks towards A, he wouldn't get both larger and smaller at the time time.

Also, when you move, do you see yourself get bigger or smaller?

Wow dude.
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May 07, 2015, 01:44:39 PM
#61
this is the most noble thing a person can do.. to question anything and everything, and especially those truths we think to be established is a greater service to rational thought than trying to develop new ones.. once we start to take truths for granted we subject our free will to an enslaved intellect and in a way become enslaved ourselves.. it is for this reason even gravity is still only a theory in the strictest sense

i think the dudes name is something mills but im just parroting his ideas cause i like em Smiley
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May 07, 2015, 01:33:56 PM
#60
he is asking for an experiment that anyone can do to prove to themselves that earth is not flat

As one focuses further out, one focuses on more light; hence, more “objects” occupy its “field of vision” and, therefor, increase the “object”-density thereof. However, “the disappearance of” (notbatman) occurs when light from a body that was, previously, in view reaches neither the cones nor the rods of the retina (e.g., for the obstruction thereof).
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May 07, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
#59
Why this dicsussion? Are we back in middel Ages?

The discussion is quite interesting actually, he is asking for an experiment that anyone can do to prove to themselves that earth is not flat, wich might not be that easy to find.
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May 07, 2015, 09:47:59 AM
#58
Why this dicsussion? Are we back in middel Ages?
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May 07, 2015, 06:45:19 AM
#57
i think the only proof that would sufficiently provide the necessary evidence would be if you could crack it and make an omelet.. otherwise i think we must remain in the dark.. i am of the mind that we are living on a triangle, and it is by sheer will we do fly off into space...

i offer this as evidence..

https://i.imgur.com/nO6I8sJ.jpg

hahah what say you now!

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May 07, 2015, 03:37:49 AM
#56
What about the possibility that Earth is both a sphere and flat at the same time akin to how scientists claim that light is both a wave and a particle; Earth duality?

The idea is that the flat Earth plane exists as a waves until the moment of de-coherence and the waves collapse into a particles forming the round Earth sphere. The formation of a sphere being due to all the wavelengths that can't fit between any two particles pushing them together.

This theory answers volatilebtc's question about what's outside the universe i.e. waves. It also satisfies round Earth theorists, flat earth theorists and "The Matrix" Earth theorists.

Who says you can't please all the people all the time.  Grin
There is a really interesting video about this :

http://youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs

There is a whole community that talk about it.

Considering the subject that's a fairly unbiased video.

As for a community building up around the subject, I think we can blame NASA for faking absolutely everything and anything to do with space even when there's no need for it. Even if the Earth is round NASA would still fake evidence to prove it, leaving anybody paying attention to question the original premise that it's round. Something is up and NASA is doing a "Grade A" job of obfuscating Earth science and space.

After a few weeks of research I'm finding some alternative theories and ideas almost plausible, no thanks to The Flat Earth Society who seem hell-bent on promoting the most ridiculous and pseudo-scientific illogical flat Earth theories possible.



notbatman who/what are you? how do you know so much? are you an alien?

sphere/pancake duality could possibly be the most brilliant thing since the wave particle conspiracy of the 1900's. genius

I'm not Batman; your average poverty stricken single male basement dweller who put every dime he could scrape together to buy a Bitcoin miner from Black Arrow who just stole my money leaving me high and dry, Google told me everything, no I'm not from Mexico.

The the idea for sphere/pancake duality came from the Vsauce video linked by birdman after the host explained that things get flattened when they approach the speed of light. That being said I can't really take credit for any perceived brilliance.

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May 07, 2015, 02:48:41 AM
#55
What about the possibility that Earth is both a sphere and flat at the same time akin to how scientists claim that light is both a wave and a particle; Earth duality?

The idea is that the flat Earth plane exists as a waves until the moment of de-coherence and the waves collapse into a particles forming the round Earth sphere. The formation of a sphere being due to all the wavelengths that can't fit between any two particles pushing them together.

This theory answers volatilebtc's question about what's outside the universe i.e. waves. It also satisfies round Earth theorists, flat earth theorists and "The Matrix" Earth theorists.

Who says you can't please all the people all the time.  Grin
There is a really interesting video about this :

http://youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs

There is a whole community that talk about it.

Considering the subject that's a fairly unbiased video.

As for a community building up around the subject, I think we can blame NASA for faking absolutely everything and anything to do with space even when there's no need for it. Even if the Earth is round NASA would still fake evidence to prove it, leaving anybody paying attention to question the original premise that it's round. Something is up and NASA is doing a "Grade A" job of obfuscating Earth science and space.

After a few weeks of research I'm finding some alternative theories and ideas almost plausible, no thanks to The Flat Earth Society who seem hell-bent on promoting the most ridiculous and pseudo-scientific illogical flat Earth theories possible.



notbatman who/what are you? how do you know so much? are you an alien?

sphere/pancake duality could possibly be the most brilliant thing since the wave particle conspiracy of the 1900's. genius
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May 07, 2015, 02:30:49 AM
#54
because a circle is a point with no points.. get my point?
there is no point

that is why triangles... 3 points

Oh God.
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May 07, 2015, 02:02:03 AM
#53
What about the possibility that Earth is both a sphere and flat at the same time akin to how scientists claim that light is both a wave and a particle; Earth duality?

Quote from: Merriam-Webster. “Solipsism.” 2015. Web. 07 May 2015. link=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/solipsism
:  a theory holding that the self can know nothing but its own modifications and that the self is the only existent thing; also :  extreme egocentrism
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May 06, 2015, 03:21:29 AM
#52
What about the possibility that Earth is both a sphere and flat at the same time akin to how scientists claim that light is both a wave and a particle; Earth duality?

The idea is that the flat Earth plane exists as a waves until the moment of de-coherence and the waves collapse into a particles forming the round Earth sphere. The formation of a sphere being due to all the wavelengths that can't fit between any two particles pushing them together.

This theory answers volatilebtc's question about what's outside the universe i.e. waves. It also satisfies round Earth theorists, flat earth theorists and "The Matrix" Earth theorists.

Who says you can't please all the people all the time.  Grin
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May 05, 2015, 11:37:07 AM
#51
There is a really interesting video about this :

http://youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs

There is a whole community that talk about it.

Considering the subject that's a fairly unbiased video.

As for a community building up around the subject, I think we can blame NASA for faking absolutely everything and anything to do with space even when there's no need for it. Even if the Earth is round NASA would still fake evidence to prove it, leaving anybody paying attention to question the original premise that it's round. Something is up and NASA is doing a "Grade A" job of obfuscating Earth science and space.

After a few weeks of research I'm finding some alternative theories and ideas almost plausible, no thanks to The Flat Earth Society who seem hell-bent on promoting the most ridiculous and pseudo-scientific illogical flat Earth theories possible.



The flat earth society just proves how people can make something that everyone knows is not true appear as plausible, like what happens with some people that defend god or any other stupid beliefs
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May 05, 2015, 11:30:46 AM
#50
There is a really interesting video about this :

http://youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs

There is a whole community that talk about it.

Considering the subject that's a fairly unbiased video.

As for a community building up around the subject, I think we can blame NASA for faking absolutely everything and anything to do with space even when there's no need for it. Even if the Earth is round NASA would still fake evidence to prove it, leaving anybody paying attention to question the original premise that it's round. Something is up and NASA is doing a "Grade A" job of obfuscating Earth science and space.

After a few weeks of research I'm finding some alternative theories and ideas almost plausible, no thanks to The Flat Earth Society who seem hell-bent on promoting the most ridiculous and pseudo-scientific illogical flat Earth theories possible.

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May 05, 2015, 10:00:14 AM
#49
There is a really interesting video about this :

http://youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs

There is a whole community that talk about it.
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May 05, 2015, 07:01:25 AM
#48
Earn more Bitcoin and then buy a spaceship. You will find out the answer. All of us is curious how the earth look like. Give us a answer within 2 years.
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May 05, 2015, 05:06:43 AM
#47
because a circle is a point with no points.. get my point?
there is no point

that is why triangles... 3 points
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May 05, 2015, 02:54:41 AM
#46
Earth is circle.
Everyone already see it.
The question should be, "Why is it almost everything in space is circle?"
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May 05, 2015, 02:11:09 AM
#45
i think the only proof that would sufficiently provide the necessary evidence would be if you could crack it and make an omelet.. otherwise i think we must remain in the dark.. i am of the mind that we are living on a triangle, and it is by sheer will we do fly off into space...

i offer this as evidence..



hahah what say you now!
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May 04, 2015, 11:38:14 AM
#44
How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?



This question has no relevance with practical world. Earth is shaped like an egg . I f you want to do any experiment , please choose UNIVERSE as subject and tell me how vast is it and whats outside ?

If I want to take a trek across Antarctica then I think it's relevant to know if I'll be on the same planet when I get to the other side.  What proof do you have that Earth is shaped like an egg?  What if Earth is the centre of the universe and it's vast and the Sun (32 mile diameter according to some theories), stars and galaxies are small?

I cant tell you everything, the proofs can be supplied by satellite pics, I cant tell you whether earth is centre or not , but yes I have heard of a theory which says If every particle of universe is taken together ,  it would be too small relative to universe. I just wonder what is outside universe.

By asking what is outside it you are thinking in three dimensions. There are more dimensions such as time.

Ofcourse there are, but what is the interconnection of time and universe ?

Come on. Everything is the center of the universe. The Cosmic All is completely concave, from start to finish.

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