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legendary
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April 14, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
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How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

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Slightly off-topic, as it sort of involves you trusting a third party, but Vsauce did a video about whether the Earth is flat, late last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs (10m30s) - it's pretty good, and informative. Also, he included a large amount of links in the video description, where you can get additional information.
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April 14, 2015, 01:55:38 AM
#22
read geometry and study the movement of the sun
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April 14, 2015, 01:45:14 AM
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Quote from: Cyrus Teed. _The Cellular Cosmogony_. SacredTexts.com. Web? 13 Apr. 2015.
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Appearances vs. Facts

The phenomenon of the disappearance of a ship, hull first, as it recedes from view, is caused by the same law of foreshortening as that which governs the disappearance of the rail, or causes the two rails to appear to approach each other. If we should make calculations on the basis of the appearance instead of on the basis of the fact that the rails do not approach, but only seem to, we necessarily draw false conclusions. This is precisely what the astronomers do. They conclude from appearances rather than from facts.

As one focuses further out, one focuses on more light; hence, more “objects” occupy its “field of vision” and, therefor, increase the “object-density” thereof. However, “the disappearance of” (notbatman) occurs when light from a body that was, previously, in view reaches neither the cones nor the rods of the retina (e.g., for the obstruction thereof [i.e., of that light]).
"more" "quotes" "makes" "science"
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April 14, 2015, 12:29:46 AM
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Quote from: Cyrus Teed. _The Cellular Cosmogony_. SacredTexts.com. Web? 13 Apr. 2015.
Appearances vs. Facts

The phenomenon of the disappearance of a ship, hull first, as it recedes from view, is caused by the same law of foreshortening as that which governs the disappearance of the rail, or causes the two rails to appear to approach each other. If we should make calculations on the basis of the appearance instead of on the basis of the fact that the rails do not approach, but only seem to, we necessarily draw false conclusions. This is precisely what the astronomers do. They conclude from appearances rather than from facts.
(Red colorization mine.)

As one focuses further out, one focuses on more light; hence, more “objects” occupy its “field of vision” and, therefor, increase the “object”-density thereof. However, “the disappearance of” (notbatman) occurs when light from a body that was, previously, in view reaches neither the cones nor the rods of the retina (e.g., for the obstruction thereof).
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April 13, 2015, 09:53:18 PM
#19
This guy measured earth radius more than 2000 years ago just placing a stuff in the ground in two different cities: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales
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April 13, 2015, 07:23:02 PM
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The phenomenon of the disappearance of a ship, hull first, as it recedes from view, is caused by the same law of foreshortening as that which governs the disappearance of the rail, or causes the two rails to appear to approach each other. If we should make calculations on the basis of the appearance instead of on the basis of the fact that the rails do not approach, but only seem to, we necessarily draw false conclusions. This is precisely what the astronomers do. They conclude from appearances rather than from facts." -- The Cellular Cosmogony,  Cyrus Teed

Except that's a load of shit and a quote over 100 years old.  Foreshadowing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_%28graphical%29) is (1) not a "law" and (2) has nothing to do with the ship illustration.  Also, as we now today, astronomers' conclusions are based upon the facts of physics.

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Cyrus Reed Teed (1839–1908) was a U.S. eclectic physician and alchemist turned religious leader and messiah. In 1869, claiming divine inspiration, Dr. Teed took on the name Koresh and proposed a new set of scientific and religious ideas he called Koreshanity, including a unique Hollow Earth theory that posits the Earth and sky exist inside the inner surface of a sphere.
Not exactly a scientist, and doesn't base any of his beliefs on facts.
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April 13, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
#17
One of the standards of the past, that shows that the earth isn't flat, but that it is rather spherical, is that of sailing ships.

On a rather calm yet breezy day, get out to the ocean. Through a telescope, watch a sailing ship coming in towards land. At a great distance away, only the topmost parts of the masts are visible on the horizon. As the ship approaches, more of the masts become visible. Finally, as the ship is reasonably close, the whole of the ship that is above water becomes visible.

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"Appearances vs. Facts

The phenomenon of the disappearance of a ship, hull first, as it recedes from view, is caused by the same law of foreshortening as that which governs the disappearance of the rail, or causes the two rails to appear to approach each other. If we should make calculations on the basis of the appearance instead of on the basis of the fact that the rails do not approach, but only seem to, we necessarily draw false conclusions. This is precisely what the astronomers do. They conclude from appearances rather than from facts." -- The Cellular Cosmogony,  Cyrus Teed
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April 13, 2015, 05:59:41 PM
#16
You could fill a weather balloon full of helium, attach an iPhone, release it and let it float so high the iPhone films the curvature of the earth. After it bursts, retrieve the iPhone via GPS.

Some Boston students did it and got footage including the curvature of the earth and the deep black of space.

http://news.sky.com/story/1295234/science-students-launch-iphone-into-space

This is a picture their iPhone took clearly showing the earth is not flat.



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The video shows the 'curvature of the earth' from about 6ft off the ground, it's called a wide angle lens!
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April 13, 2015, 05:20:12 PM
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You could fill a weather balloon full of helium, attach an iPhone, release it and let it float so high the iPhone films the curvature of the earth. After it bursts, retrieve the iPhone via GPS.

Some Boston students did it and got footage including the curvature of the earth and the deep black of space.

http://news.sky.com/story/1295234/science-students-launch-iphone-into-space

This is a picture their iPhone took clearly showing the earth is not flat.

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April 13, 2015, 01:23:00 PM
#14
Look up and out into the universe, see how many flat objects you see out there compared to how many round ones.
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April 13, 2015, 10:50:02 AM
#13
One of the standards of the past, that shows that the earth isn't flat, but that it is rather spherical, is that of sailing ships.

On a rather calm yet breezy day, get out to the ocean. Through a telescope, watch a sailing ship coming in towards land. At a great distance away, only the topmost parts of the masts are visible on the horizon. As the ship approaches, more of the masts become visible. Finally, as the ship is reasonably close, the whole of the ship that is above water becomes visible.

Smiley
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April 13, 2015, 08:38:30 AM
#12
A hollow earth implies a non-planar geometry, these guys could just be traveling to the dark side of the Earth via polar gateways.

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April 13, 2015, 02:07:30 AM
#10
It would be cool if the Earth really were hollow with a sun of its own, like a Dyson sphere, but it ain't so. Undecided
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April 13, 2015, 02:01:30 AM
#9
Of course Earth is flat. How can you say otherwise?

Only the Sun and Mo_On revolves around the Earth.
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April 12, 2015, 09:24:53 PM
#8
Flat Earth globe:

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April 01, 2015, 10:35:50 AM
#7
The Earth isn't flat, its hollow!

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/





This is the reason for global warming propaganda.

The global elitists are strongly pushing the idea of global warming because, if the North Pole ice is allowed to dissipate, we all can have access to the "big hole" at the North Pole, like Admiral Byrd found. Once we intermingle with the advanced races inside, we will learn their knowledge about how to free ourselves from global domination by the global elite. We are already starting with Bitcoin. Obviously, they don't want to lose control, so they are fighting in every way that they can think of.

The reason for chemtrails is, the global elite are spraying massive amounts of powdered aluminum into the atmosphere, to hopefully reflect some of the sun's heat, in an effort to keep the polar ice caps from melting. A couple of side advantages from the aluminum are in the Alzheimer's that develops, both to keep the population "dumb," and to help people die off early so that the world population decreases, at least in its rapid expansion rate.

You are going to die young from the chemtrails. You will never find out all the riches of wisdom and knowledge of the inhabitants of the inside of the earth, because the global elitists are killing you off with chemtrails, the same chemtrails they are using to keep the polar ice caps from melting any further.

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legendary
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April 01, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
#6
The Earth isn't flat, its hollow!

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/





"Teed expounded on his notions in a [ book ] 'The Cellular Cosmogony, or, the Earth a Concave Sphere', writing under the pseudonym of Koresh, the Hebrew name for Cyrus. He explained that the [ known world ] is on the concave, inner surface of a sphere, outside of which there is only a void. At the centre of the sphere, the rotating sun, half dark and half-light, gives an illusion of rising and setting.

The moon is a reflection of the earth's surface; the stars and planets reflect from metallic planes on the earth's concave surface. The vast internal cavity is filled with a dense atmosphere that makes it impossible to see across the globe to the lands and peoples on other sides.

Odd as it was, his theory could not be disproved mathematically. Indeed, Teed offered a $10,000 reward to anyone who could disprove his theory, but no one took him up."

http://mystical-locations.info/hollow_earth_teed.html
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April 01, 2015, 08:58:52 AM
#5
The Earth isn't flat, its hollow!

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/



legendary
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April 01, 2015, 05:00:18 AM
#4
1. Launch a balloon with your own camera attached to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAifzh7_-cg


2. Sail around the world on your own.

3. Become an astronaut.

...but the curve is going the wrong way in that video!



The options were flat or spherical, now you've gone and complicated things by offering evidence for a concave earth.
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