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Quote from: Stablexcoin on November 13, 2024, 11:48:40 AM

You sound like a true Roma fan and i feel your pain if the club has to make such a bad decision in choosing Ten Hag. Most complains from managers who fail to win league trophy or take the club far is that the board of directors don't give them enough funds to manage the team. With what you pointed out, Roma has less to offer to Ten Hag compared to what he received from Manchester United. And we all know that Manchester United is one of the richest club in England. Yet Ten Hag fail to accomplish anything good.

The Roma board of directors should think twice in these situation. Knowing full well that they have suffered in the hands of two coaches who promised them success and yet failed. Now they want to bank on Ten Hag.

I believe Roma will not choose Ten Hag. If that happens, then it is questionable what target Roma really wants to achieve by bringing in Ten Hag. I am sure Roma can get a better coach and can certainly make Roma better. but clearly it is not Ten Hag.
Ten Hag may have to go to the Eredivisie to coach a struggling club and make achievements first before finally being glanced at by a big European club. Ten Hag's name should have started to be sidelined after his dismissal from United.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 12, 2024, 07:04:03 PM

Quote from: mammusu on November 12, 2024, 09:56:20 AM

Zirkzee has just arrived from Bologna but he will leave again from Manchester United?

Come on guys, I think it's just hoax news that may not have a clear news source, we know if Manchester United sign him from Bologna for a high price, so sell his just be bad business in my opinion, the arrival of Amorim does make we a lot of questions about the possible changes that exist, but I don't think they will sell Zirkzee at the moment, Although Zirkzee has not been able to show good performance and consistency at Manchester United, they should give him longer time to prove himself quality, but indeed we cannot deny that maybe Amorim will make a breakthrough in the January transfer market to get the scheme and squad he wants later.

I doubt Manchester United will miss him if he leaves the club. Zirkzee has not been able to replicate the form he showed at Bologna last season, which was a big reason why Manchester United signed him. He’s been inconsistent all season, it could be Erik Ten Hag was the cause of his underperformance. With the potential arrival of Ruben Amorim, I believe United may actively explore the January transfer market. Amorim will likely let go of several underperforming players and bring in players who align with his vision for the club.

The new Boss of Manchester United hasn't arrived yet so we can't tell if he will be interested in zirkee or any of the players that are currently available in the squad but it is certain that he won't be sending the entire players away because he would have to work with what's available at the moment until the transfer windows open in january when he would start shopping for the kind of players that he deems fit to be in his team, I think he would have to do away with a lot of them especially those who may not be able to fit into his style of play, but is left for the new coach to decide who stays and who doesn't.

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Quote from: asriloni on November 12, 2024, 11:58:47 AM

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Manchester United Ex manager Erik Ten Hag is said to be under consideration to become the new manager of AS Roma.

How true is this? I am aware that Roma just recently sacked the second coach of this season and they are looking for their third coach. They are looking for a replacement for Ivan Juric but in the meantime Roberto Mancini is yet to take over. Under consideration the club is looking out for Erik Ten Hag if he would be the new coach to bring revival.

The thing is after all he did in Manchester United, do we think he is qualified to be Roma new manager? Whats your take on this?

Source:https://x.com/centregoals/status/1856257466247360520

No way!!! I don't wanna see Ten Hag joins in Roma. I know, he was great at Ajax, then terrible at Manchester United. The problem is that he was good at United after he spent 700 million. Roma will give him far less than it.

Even with 700 millions, he never won major trophy at Manchester United.

We have a better option than Ten Hag atm. That's Montella, and i'd prefer for them to go for Montella. He's far experienced to handle Roma, i think he won't be another flop to be signed as a new coach. Also, all of roma fans wanted Montella's signature asap.

You sound like a true Roma fan and i feel your pain if the club has to make such a bad decision in choosing Ten Hag. Most complains from managers who fail to win league trophy or take the club far is that the board of directors don't give them enough funds to manage the team. With what you pointed out, Roma has less to offer to Ten Hag compared to what he received from Manchester United. And we all know that Manchester United is one of the richest club in England. Yet Ten Hag fail to accomplish anything good.

The Roma board of directors should think twice in these situation. Knowing full well that they have suffered in the hands of two coaches who promised them success and yet failed. Now they want to bank on Ten Hag.

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Yep it doesn't make any sense.

Honestly I agree Zirkzee is a bad player, he was in Bologna for 2 years, first year he only scored 2 goals and the second year he scored 11 goals, making him to be Bologna's top scorer in the last year.

That's, he only perform for a year and Manchester United willing to pay high for him. This is why it's not surprising to see Zirkzee performance is terrible because his prime only one season.

I understand why you are worried about Zirkzee's consistency. Even though he was Bologna top scorer with 11 goals in his second year his overall performance record raises some questions. Fact is that he only scored 2 goals in his first year and mainly relied on that one successful season makes people doubt if he can keep performing well. It is surprising that Manchester United is willing to spend a lot of money on him considering his inconsistent record. However it is possible that Manchester United believes Zirkzee has potential to grow and repeat his successful season. Ultimately time will tell if Zirkzee can consistently prove himself.

You know, it feels like your choice of words is counter factual even though you don't mean it. Yes, Zirkzee was the "top scorer" with 11 goals for Bologna, but that doesn't actually make him a "top" scorer. 11 goals is average. He played almost every single game that season and yes 11 goals is ok, but is that the calibre of striker that fits Manchester United's requirements to prevail in the Premier League? Seriously no, and he had some lucky moments at Bayern, which is the reason why he was eyed by Bologna. Bayern let him go without hesitation because they knew that he is not Harry Kane... Bad player and it could be easily predicted that he wouldn't turn out to be a goal scoring machine for Manchester United.

I will not doubt your conclusion, because a player that scored a total of 11 goal in one season is not going to do better in Manchester united. Look at since his arrival, he misses good opportunities. Ten Hag is a mess because he chose these players himself, no wonder he is not improving in his coaching skills and wanted to turn Manchester United to a mediocre club.

Manchester united needs world top strikers to in their attacking line so that in every two opportunities, one would be converted to a gaol.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 13, 2024, 05:21:47 AM

Why am I so sad when I heard he will leave Man United after giving quite good results in his 4 matches Cry

so far he has not experienced defeat and even scored 11 goals and only conceded 3 goals from his debut with Man United, it is very unfortunate that Amorim did not appoint him as an assistant even though he actually knows the depth of the red devils well as a former player and also as an assistant. However, even though he is Amorim's assistant, Ruud actually can't do much, the decision is entirely in the hands of Amorim's head coach in building the team.

After Ruud has taken over Manchester United have really started to get good results. This also shows that Manchester United was late to sack Erik ten Hag. I would also like to see Ruud's staying at Manchester United until the end of the season a lot. However Manchester United board don't want to lose time and one should understand this too. Every manager would like to work with their own team. I guess Amorim didn't want to see Ruud in his team because of this or Ruud didn't want to have a place in Amorim's team.

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Quote from: Barikui1 on November 12, 2024, 12:59:49 AM

I don't actually think that this particular deal is not going to come to reality because the hierarchy of Newcastle united will definitely think that hose Mourinho has past his prime, though I may be wrong, but if am truly right, I don't think they will ever consider hiring him as the manager of Newcastle united, they might want someone more younger and in his prime.

But if in any case that Newcastle hired him as their manager, this will be a major plus to the Newcastle side because he is a proven winner and am very sure that jose Mourinho wouldn't stay at Newcastle for two whole season without winning anything with the kind of resources they now have, it can never happen.

Situation at the Newcastle United is not clear because change of ownership have good impact, and they were in top four as well at the end of 2023, but we have too many on and off the field problems which bring them down at the end of 2024 even many feeling Eddie Howe is doing good job, but he is having not experience at the top level which is hurting them badly in this season we have them at the 8th spot which is good, and they can jump above as well, but they needed more motivated and strong for having good results.

Even José Mourinho is good, but now he could be 62 in few months which mean time is over and Newcastle United needed good and creative coach which bring good changes and better results currently we have nothing sure about this, but things can take changes, and we can expect new changes but mostly will happen at the end of this season.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 12, 2024, 07:04:03 PM

I doubt Manchester United will miss him if he leaves the club. Zirkzee has not been able to replicate the form he showed at Bologna last season, which was a big reason why Manchester United signed him. He’s been inconsistent all season, it could be Erik Ten Hag was the cause of his underperformance. With the potential arrival of Ruben Amorim, I believe United may actively explore the January transfer market. Amorim will likely let go of several underperforming players and bring in players who align with his vision for the club.

He has not been able to do that because the pace of the premier league competition and that of seria A are not even the same when you get to compare them. I won't put blames on Erik ten Hag for his underperformance, well maybe you're correct because a coach should be able to improve the players he signed and know how to utilize their full potentials. I'm not expecting nothing from the new manager, I'd rather let them shock me. Ruben Amorim is a great manager but he's got to show working.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 13, 2024, 03:38:38 AM

We recently saw news about Real Madrid hiring another palyers because their defender Militão was injured hard and he won't be able to help his team for nine months which is a long time and Real Madrid should think about hiring another palyers. Sergio Ramos the old legendary player of Real Madrid was linked to this team but it seems he won't join Real Madrid anymore because they prefer to let Sergio Ramos be in the memory like he was in the old days as a legend.
Laporte is the plan A for Real Madrid and Lukeba is the plan B the interesting thing about Real Madrid is they are even interested in hiring Jonathan Tah the player and captain of Leverkusen.
The contract with Jonathan Tah will end in 2025 and Real Madrid can have the chance to hire Jonathan Tah for free.

No one had any complaints about Real Madrid's previous defense position, but the current defense line may not be satisfying the fans for some reason and the current defense may be reminding many of them of Sergio Ramos. I will not say that the current Real Madrid defenders are incompetent but I will say that they are experienced enough but they are injured now. Since these defenders are regularly getting injured and sidelined for long periods of time, defenders are definitely needed at Real Madrid right now. Real Madrid may be targeting a defender who is relatively young and has great pace. We will have to wait until the transfer market to see who will be Real Madrid's next central back.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 12, 2024, 11:21:27 PM

Rumors about AS Roma. Reportedly, the management is in discussions to get a new coach. Reportedly, after firing Ivan Juric As Roma is preparing to call Ranieri. But As Roma chose him to be interim coach until the end of the season. Actually Ranieri has announced his retirement but it seems that he can return to the world of coaching at the age of 73years old.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/31771/12476234/transfer-centre-live-football-transfers-news-updates-and-rumours

Uh. I respect Ranieri, but why would he do this? Especially at such a venerable age. It is difficult to count on success in Roma, rather on a large amount of criticism and hate, even if it is directed not towards the coach but the management, but being in such conditions is uncomfortable in every sense. I hope this is just a rumor.

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Isn't it obvious if Ranieri loves Roma, right? He's eager to be the new coach for Roma and he's ready to commit to the club long-term as well. A 73-year-old guy returned from retirement to take a serious job. He choose this over staying home and enjoying life. That proves it all.

He will be the oldest active coach in Europe if he accepts Roma's offer. Also, the news about him to take a job as a new coach Roma is not a rumor.

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Quote from: bering on November 12, 2024, 07:52:28 AM

Ruben Amorim is started to working at Manchester United now and he was expected can bringing Manchester United to performing well again and if possible Amorim is expected can able to bringing Manchester United finish at European competitions spots and some of people have realize that one of the weaknesses of Manchester United is they don't have sharp striker and actually before sacked Ten Hag has attempts to solved this problem with bought Joshua Zirkzee but unfortunately Zirkzee is failed to adapt

Some of Manchester United fans want Amorim bought Viktor Gyökeres from Sporting and they thought Gyökeres can solved the weaknesses of Manchester United and just like we all know Gyökeres is on fire at Sporting this season he has scores 23 goals in all competitions and maybe if Manchester United bought him it could be perfect transfer for this team

He already talked about how he wants to not bring him this January, that part is at least guaranteed. I am not saying that it would be impossible for the summer, they may do it during the summer, but not this January. Plus, they have enough players as it is, the problem isn't that they do not have the players to win, they have players and a roster to win this without trouble, the problem is that they are not really doing anything great at the moment.

Players who can play better, end up playing worse than what they are playing right now is the problem and I believe they are going to face even more toughness in the future if they keep this up. I believe fixing that would fix many of their issues and that is the most important part. If they can do this, then they can do very well, and shouldn't be really focusing on getting new ones. Just make the players play with their %100 and they should be getting a great result without trouble in the end.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on November 12, 2024, 09:42:48 AM

Manchester United Ex manager Erik Ten Hag is said to be under consideration to become the new manager of AS Roma.

How true is this? I am aware that Roma just recently sacked the second coach of this season and they are looking for their third coach. They are looking for a replacement for Ivan Juric but in the meantime Roberto Mancini is yet to take over. Under consideration the club is looking out for Erik Ten Hag if he would be the new coach to bring revival.

The thing is after all he did in Manchester United, do we think he is qualified to be Roma new manager? Whats your take on this?

This was under consideration but Eric Ten Hag already rejected offer from the AS Roma president about this spot because his point is valid that he never want to be coach of another chaotic club which is having too many problems, and they already sack 2 coaches in few weeks so most chances we will be having someone else or Frank Lampard as next coach of the AS Roma which could be also good but currently nothing is sure who is heading for this job.

Now as things are going most chances we will be having few more posts will be available in coming days as many clubs are going down and will be look for new coaches in coming days Eric Ten Hag is also having some offers from Dutch league where he could be much better instead of outside his country.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 13, 2024, 08:07:19 AM

Quote from: Luzin on November 12, 2024, 11:21:27 PM

Rumors about AS Roma. Reportedly, the management is in discussions to get a new coach. Reportedly, after firing Ivan Juric As Roma is preparing to call Ranieri. But As Roma chose him to be interim coach until the end of the season. Actually Ranieri has announced his retirement but it seems that he can return to the world of coaching at the age of 73years old.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/31771/12476234/transfer-centre-live-football-transfers-news-updates-and-rumours

Uh. I respect Ranieri, but why would he do this? Especially at such a venerable age. It is difficult to count on success in Roma, rather on a large amount of criticism and hate, even if it is directed not towards the coach but the management, but being in such conditions is uncomfortable in every sense. I hope this is just a rumor.

In my opinion, the dismissal of Mourinho is the beginning of Roma's current slump even though they have previously appointed a legend (De Rossi) to coach the team, but it has not had a big impact on their performance so far, as well as Ivan Jurig who in my opinion has failed to revive and restore Roma performance so far, I think now Roma must be more courageous to recruit more experienced coaches in order to achieve their ambition to play in the UCL next season. If Roma want to sign Ranieri, I think they have to rethink at this time, even though previously he managed to lead Leicester City to the title but after that we didn't see any good enough achievements from Ranieri, I think maybe Ranieri just wants to try to help Roma at the moment but it doesn't seem like the right choice even if it's just as an interim coach, It's good for Roma to maybe look for a more experienced coach, it is better for Roma to perhaps look for a coach who is more experienced, young and have a long-term vision to rebuild the team rather than entrusting the future of the team to an old coach like Ranieri.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on November 12, 2024, 10:17:50 AM

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Actually I would say you are approaching it from the right angle, it might be easier to give Roma the kiss of life than Manchester United, but he will have gone from one troubled club to another troubled club and if he fails again it will be even more damaging to his career. The Manchester monster ate him too. His next adventure will undoubtedly be even more difficult...

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Quote from: Jegileman on November 11, 2024, 11:49:32 AM

It will be good if Van Nestelrooy stays back, he has this good managerial ability in him that when they pair together can make Manchester United very great again. Amorim may have a more good record than him as a manager since he’s just an assistant manager all along but this few games he’s coached Manchester United have been great and I wonder why he didn’t make Eric Ten Hag to implement his strategies when he was still around and working with him. I feel Van Nestelrooy can also stand by himself as a manager to coach a team but maybe it’s not just yet time for him to be given such position at Manchester United. He would now either chose to work under Amorim or get another job elsewhere in another team.

Van Nestelrooy is surely one of the Manchester United legends with great past as player and also done good job as coach for few matches with he can stay here in many cases because he will be good for the Ruben Amorim who is heading for his first big job in Premier League with he also understands all strategy and tactics how can they bring back good days at the Old Trafford.

As mentioned we will be having more updated in coming days about his future because currently things are not clear, and we also have no matches in next 11 days which are good for them to settle things for their future after this break we will have January window which is also going to be important for many clubs which are looking for having suitable replacements for their improvement in performance.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 12, 2024, 11:21:27 PM

Rumors about AS Roma. Reportedly, the management is in discussions to get a new coach. Reportedly, after firing Ivan Juric As Roma is preparing to call Ranieri. But As Roma chose him to be interim coach until the end of the season. Actually Ranieri has announced his retirement but it seems that he can return to the world of coaching at the age of 73years old.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/31771/12476234/transfer-centre-live-football-transfers-news-updates-and-rumours

Uh. I respect Ranieri, but why would he do this? Especially at such a venerable age. It is difficult to count on success in Roma, rather on a large amount of criticism and hate, even if it is directed not towards the coach but the management, but being in such conditions is uncomfortable in every sense. I hope this is just a rumor.

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Quote from: ThemePen on November 12, 2024, 11:10:34 PM

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Yep it doesn't make any sense.

Honestly I agree Zirkzee is a bad player, he was in Bologna for 2 years, first year he only scored 2 goals and the second year he scored 11 goals, making him to be Bologna's top scorer in the last year.

That's, he only perform for a year and Manchester United willing to pay high for him. This is why it's not surprising to see Zirkzee performance is terrible because his prime only one season.

I understand why you are worried about Zirkzee's consistency. Even though he was Bologna top scorer with 11 goals in his second year his overall performance record raises some questions. Fact is that he only scored 2 goals in his first year and mainly relied on that one successful season makes people doubt if he can keep performing well. It is surprising that Manchester United is willing to spend a lot of money on him considering his inconsistent record. However it is possible that Manchester United believes Zirkzee has potential to grow and repeat his successful season. Ultimately time will tell if Zirkzee can consistently prove himself.

You know, it feels like your choice of words is counter factual even though you don't mean it. Yes, Zirkzee was the "top scorer" with 11 goals for Bologna, but that doesn't actually make him a "top" scorer. 11 goals is average. He played almost every single game that season and yes 11 goals is ok, but is that the calibre of striker that fits Manchester United's requirements to prevail in the Premier League? Seriously no, and he had some lucky moments at Bayern, which is the reason why he was eyed by Bologna. Bayern let him go without hesitation because they knew that he is not Harry Kane... Bad player and it could be easily predicted that he wouldn't turn out to be a goal scoring machine for Manchester United.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 13, 2024, 05:21:47 AM

Why am I so sad when I heard he will leave Man United after giving quite good results in his 4 matches Cry

so far he has not experienced defeat and even scored 11 goals and only conceded 3 goals from his debut with Man United, it is very unfortunate that Amorim did not appoint him as an assistant even though he actually knows the depth of the red devils well as a former player and also as an assistant. However, even though he is Amorim's assistant, Ruud actually can't do much, the decision is entirely in the hands of Amorim's head coach in building the team.

Seeing what is happening to Nistelrooy at the moment, of course Manchester United fans and players will be very sad, although Nistelrooy joined and worked with Manchester United in a short time, but his ability to restore Manchester United performance after Ten Hag dismissal is something that deserves to be appreciated, previously I thought that Nistelrooy would continue his job with Manchester United until the end of the season as a coaching staff but it turns out that I was wrong and actually saw that Nistelrooy had to leave Old Trafford at this time, currently it is reported that Amorim has brought 5 of his coaching staff while at Sporting so that there may not be a place for Nistelrooy at Manchester United squad,I think if amorim make Nistelrooy an assistant coach, of course their combination can make Manchester United more develop later, Because Nistelrooy has in-depth knowledge of the team so it will be very helpful for Amorim to build manchester united squad later, but it turns out that the dismissal is the end of Nistelrooy story at Manchester United Cry

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 12, 2024, 07:04:03 PM

I doubt Manchester United will miss him if he leaves the club. Zirkzee has not been able to replicate the form he showed at Bologna last season, which was a big reason why Manchester United signed him. He’s been inconsistent all season, it could be Erik Ten Hag was the cause of his underperformance. With the potential arrival of Ruben Amorim, I believe United may actively explore the January transfer market. Amorim will likely let go of several underperforming players and bring in players who align with his vision for the club.

It is obvious that with such great opportunities at Manchester United, ten Hag made a lot of mistakes and was unable to take advantage of the opportunity that he had. Amorim will most likely make a good rotation in the team, as Maresca did at Chelsea, I think that without this, nothing will change. Maybe van Nistelrooy's temporary successes show that Manchester United has very good potential, but for great achievements the team requires big changes, I think we will soon see them with Amorim.

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Why am I so sad when I heard he will leave Man United after giving quite good results in his 4 matches Cry

so far he has not experienced defeat and even scored 11 goals and only conceded 3 goals from his debut with Man United, it is very unfortunate that Amorim did not appoint him as an assistant even though he actually knows the depth of the red devils well as a former player and also as an assistant. However, even though he is Amorim's assistant, Ruud actually can't do much, the decision is entirely in the hands of Amorim's head coach in building the team.

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We recently saw news about Real Madrid hiring another palyers because their defender Militão was injured hard and he won't be able to help his team for nine months which is a long time and Real Madrid should think about hiring another palyers. Sergio Ramos the old legendary player of Real Madrid was linked to this team but it seems he won't join Real Madrid anymore because they prefer to let Sergio Ramos be in the memory like he was in the old days as a legend.
Laporte is the plan A for Real Madrid and Lukeba is the plan B the interesting thing about Real Madrid is they are even interested in hiring Jonathan Tah the player and captain of Leverkusen.
The contract with Jonathan Tah will end in 2025 and Real Madrid can have the chance to hire Jonathan Tah for free.

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