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I agree that Leao might be a better option for Manchester United than Lookman. The two are good players but Leao proved himself in AC Milan many times and could adapt perfectly. I have some worries that Lookman will be the new Victor Osimhen, he needs to learn from his Nigerian teammate who was once, one of the best players in a season then he faded.

It seems that what will be taken into consideration is not only how well they score goals or making assists, but Ruben Amorim seems to prefer players who are not reluctant to chase the ball and help in defense, and it is for that reason that Marcus Rashford was sidelined by him. So who between Lookman and Rafael Leao do you think has that criteria?

Hmmm that's true!
You have made a very good point. My paddy did not go that way. I really appreciate your thoughts. If Ruben Aimorm needs players who can help in defense as well as attack, then Lookman is definitely him. Lookman has more defensive awareness compared to Rafael Leao. In Atalanta's tactics, the attackers also drop back, due to which Lookman also helps in the defense forces. And we have also monitored big games. Lookman also drops back for defense. Despite Rafael Leao is a natural winger with high attacking rate and his defensive awareness almost nil.

So it means to say that both are good players. Ademola Lookman has defensive skills and attacking too, despite Rafael Leao having strong attacking ingredients with a lower defensive rate. So if Aimorm wants to conclude both quality, then he should sign Lookma he has access to both quality.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 20, 2024, 04:12:28 AM

It seems that Arne Slot is not satisfied with the strength of the current squad, Liverpool is reportedly ready to submit a £50 million offer to Atalanta to recruit Charles De Ketelaere in the upcoming summer transfer market. His impressive performances with Atalanta have attracted interest from top European clubs, Liverpool keen to take the lead in the hunt for the young Belgian. If a deal is reached, De Ketelaere is expected to strengthen Liverpool attack next season.

Source: Football Express

Liverpool played 15 games and scored 31 goals in the Premier League and they are the fourth team with the best attack in the Premier League, and I honestly can't understand how any coach wouldn't be happy with the performance of his attackers who, with 15 games, managed to score 31 goals and there's also the fact that the top scorer in the Premier League is a list that includes a Liverpool player who is at the top, it's not just a player who is merely on the list, he is at the top of the list

Liverpool have good strikers, but unfortunately they have been unlucky with many strikers getting injured at the same time.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 20, 2024, 04:12:28 AM

It seems that Arne Slot is not satisfied with the strength of the current squad, Liverpool is reportedly ready to submit a £50 million offer to Atalanta to recruit Charles De Ketelaere in the upcoming summer transfer market. His impressive performances with Atalanta have attracted interest from top European clubs, Liverpool keen to take the lead in the hunt for the young Belgian. If a deal is reached, De Ketelaere is expected to strengthen Liverpool attack next season.

Source: Football Express

Ketelaere is a good player. He performed extraordinarily with his current team. He's very impressive among all of the best players who have five goals involvements in one UCL match. This shows that how high his quality as a football player.

I wonder how much Atalanta will value him. I expect they to put around 50m - 70m for him. That price looks reasonable price considering he's still quite young and very talented. That's pretty interesting to see how it goes. It seems this plan is gonna be executed in the summer window, not winter i guess.

The lad is extraordinary, and has great potentials that we would see in future. Ketelaere has really added great impact to Atalanta not quite long he came to the club. Going to Liverpool will be good because Arne Slot wants to bring in new young players and do away with some. Sallah will be leaving the club soon, and I believe Slot is preapring for his exit and maybe, some other players.

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The entire team needs to be rebuilt not just attack and defence. Even Onana at goal makes a lot of mistakes. They should build their team around Amad and Bruno because they are the only bright thing in this team. Other players need to be replaced but i wonder how much they can do in the winter transfer window

I'm sure there won't be much United can get in the winter transfer market. He'll get rid of some and bring in some. Although Amorim may have a list of players he wants. Not all of them will be available to United.
As you said, Amorim may have to get a new goalkeeper too. Who of course has better qualities. Onana has made many mistakes since Ten Hag's season in charge. I'm sure Amorim will have to think about getting a better replacement.

It would be more ideal for Amorim to do it in the summer window to recruit the players he wants, so what he is currently doing is just to maximize the available players and evaluate them at the same time. So, we agree that Man United will not do it in this winter window. However, it seems that some United players will be removed by Amorim, even now several players are being rumored. For the goalkeeper, Amorim could look for a replacement for Onana. Or, he will keep him. Because, the system that Amorim implements requires a typical goalkeeper figure like Onana. More precisely, Amorim has the same system of starting to build attacks starting from the defense area. However, if Onana's performance cannot be improved, it is likely that Amorim will also kick him out. I am curious, will Amorim make a major overhaul of his squad later. This is interesting after, whether United will improve much under Amorim's guidance.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 20, 2024, 12:11:42 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on December 20, 2024, 11:42:31 AM

The entire team needs to be rebuilt not just attack and defence. Even Onana at goal makes a lot of mistakes. They should build their team around Amad and Bruno because they are the only bright thing in this team. Other players need to be replaced but i wonder how much they can do in the winter transfer window

I'm sure there won't be much United can get in the winter transfer market. He'll get rid of some and bring in some. Although Amorim may have a list of players he wants. Not all of them will be available to United.
As you said, Amorim may have to get a new goalkeeper too. Who of course has better qualities. Onana has made many mistakes since Ten Hag's season in charge. I'm sure Amorim will have to think about getting a better replacement.

They need to open their bag and buy new players. This was probobly a request from Amorim once he camed to Man Utd. He will probobly and try and gey Gyokeres from Sporting but that will cost them heavily. Goalkeeper they can find a cheaper one they arent that expensive as strikers and wingers. Man Utd needs to get players now to save their season.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on December 20, 2024, 12:27:16 PM

I think manager Ruben Amorim wants Swedish forward Gyökeres, who he played with before, to join the team. If he brings him to the team, I am sure he can play his best game with a forward who understands him well in the forward area. Or if the Osimhen transfer happens, we can talk about a strong attacking side for Manchester United. They did not play badly in the Tottenham match, but it could be better. The manager will probably complete this next year. Manchester United should be a competitive team in the Premier League next year.

Ruben Amorim have said before about Gyökeres future will not join Manchester United at January window transfer opening but can't close opportunity at the next season.
I think Amorim have know well with Gyökeres game typical and each other have good relationship at Sporting Lisbon, due bad relation with Marcus Rashford seems Amorim will sign new center forward for next window transfer opening.

Two weeks left before window transfer opening will Manchester United sign new player or Amorim waiting for next season get new recruitment, looking current composition need new players on attacking line and defender position how difficulties scoring many goals and other side Manchester United got conceded many goals.

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That's literally 100% what this is about, just forcing them to take a pay cut without a doubt. However, if I was Barcelona, I just wouldn't even want them on the team, not with a pay cut or anything, these are not players they can't replace, and they worth nothing with their high salary, other teams wouldn't want them and these players won't leave for cheap neither so it is really not making any sense to me at all.

After spending half a season with Barcelona, Flick seems to have started to find players who fit his scheme, he has also chosen several names to be sold immediately who are considered not to have a big contribution to the club, one name that seems to be released soon is De Jong. Araujo and Christensen will also be included in the transfer list to help the club's financial condition, Barcelona will not have difficulty finding a club that is ready to accommodate them because there are still many clubs that are still interested in them.

If they somehow could find teams that can get those three, then they would get rid of insane amount of salary that way. Just those three, Frankie De Jong, Araujo, and Cristensen, would equal to 40 million euro per year alone. That is insane, imagine what they could do with 40 million euro, they could get some amazing players and definitely better people than these three. They are also going to open to many other stuff as well, like maybe get better younger players from youth setup as well, they have a lot and La Masia is legendary so they could use it for that.

The ability to sign their players back is great feeling, but when three of them worth 40 million a year, that feels like it's way too much for what they worth.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 20, 2024, 04:12:28 AM

It seems that Arne Slot is not satisfied with the strength of the current squad, Liverpool is reportedly ready to submit a £50 million offer to Atalanta to recruit Charles De Ketelaere in the upcoming summer transfer market. His impressive performances with Atalanta have attracted interest from top European clubs, Liverpool keen to take the lead in the hunt for the young Belgian. If a deal is reached, De Ketelaere is expected to strengthen Liverpool attack next season.

Is Liverpool crazy? this guy didn't perform when he played for Milan, 40 appearances 0 goal, this is unbelievable. Yeah we see his performance is keep improving especially this season, but who knows if he's just one season wonder? Nunez also like that, his last season with Benfica was very wonderful, now we see he can't perform in Liverpool in 3 seasons.

Liverpool is not crazy. I believe Arne Slot knows something we didn't. I can't really judge Ketelaere's performance's good or bad, but rather than average to me, but he has potential. This pretty much the same like Sancho's case, he's played averagely at United, but far better when he did it at Dortmund and now Chelsea.

I can't even compare Ketelaere to the Nunez as they have different potential. Ketelaere looks so average now, but who knows Arne can dig his true potential. You forgot to mention he has good stats as UCL.

Lastly, Ketelaere was crap on Milan, but he did it far better at Atalanta. It means player's confidence does big impact to his performance.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 20, 2024, 11:13:09 AM

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Your statement can't negate the fact that if Manchester United very often conceded goals in any games. This proves that how Amorim has not successfully reassembled his club's defensive line. I'm saying based on the statistic. If you didn't believe it, you can look at how many goals United conceded under Amorim.

That's why he has put more focus on their defensive line. I don't even see the depth on their defense now. I said based on the data.

If based on facts then the latest fact if you watch Man United against Tottenham how ineffective the attack line is and still need a striker. I will not deny that they need additional defenders but with the option of additional strikers it would be much better. Every recruitment is certainly based on needs, right?

I think manager Ruben Amorim wants Swedish forward Gyökeres, who he played with before, to join the team. If he brings him to the team, I am sure he can play his best game with a forward who understands him well in the forward area. Or if the Osimhen transfer happens, we can talk about a strong attacking side for Manchester United. They did not play badly in the Tottenham match, but it could be better. The manager will probably complete this next year. Manchester United should be a competitive team in the Premier League next year.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 20, 2024, 04:12:28 AM

It seems that Arne Slot is not satisfied with the strength of the current squad, Liverpool is reportedly ready to submit a £50 million offer to Atalanta to recruit Charles De Ketelaere in the upcoming summer transfer market. His impressive performances with Atalanta have attracted interest from top European clubs, Liverpool keen to take the lead in the hunt for the young Belgian. If a deal is reached, De Ketelaere is expected to strengthen Liverpool attack next season.

Source: Football Express

It will not be an easy battle for Liverpool to get the signature of Charles De Ketelaere because many clubs are interested in him. There are indications that many clubs in the premiership which include, West Ham, Aston Villa, Tottenham, Newcastle United, Manchester City and Arsenal have shown interest in the versatile Belgian player. West Ham sees him as a viable replacement for Mohammed Kudus who might leave the club in January.

I don't know if Atlanta will be willing to let him go because he has contributed immensely to the club. The 23-year-old player is valued at about £40m, maybe Atalanta might decide to keep him because they have many competitions to play so they need enough players.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 19, 2024, 09:06:32 AM

Barcelona finances are in a difficult condition at the moment even inevitably still barcelona must sell some players in the transfer market later, in addition to stabilising their finances, selling players will also reduce the salary burden and also make it possible for barcelona to register dani olmo and pau victor the second time to the la liga authorities later, Indeed, so far Hansi Flick has found the right starting eleven for the Barcelona squad, but I think selling de Jong and some other players you cause will certainly have an impact on Barcelona, because like we know that currently Barcelona has limited squad depth and makes Hansi Flick have few options to rotate his squad.

Yes, and while I agree that they do not have enough great players to sell some, they will eventually have to do it. I said it before, I will say it again; selling players like Yamal, Balde, Cubarsi would equal to them selling their future and hurt them a lot but also could fix all of this financial issues in a single day. They could raise as much as 150 million euros from those three players alone, not need anything else just those three players and suddenly they would be out of trouble fully. They could just get free agent players instead, would be worse, but they would not have any financial problem left at all.

Moreover, they could get rid of big salaries like Frankie and Araujo this summer, either they will sign back for cheaper or not sign at all. Combine these together and suddenly we are talking about Barcelona being back at green and not have these issues. I understand they won't be as good of a team that way, but they can rebuild afterwards.

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 20, 2024, 11:42:31 AM

The entire team needs to be rebuilt not just attack and defence. Even Onana at goal makes a lot of mistakes. They should build their team around Amad and Bruno because they are the only bright thing in this team. Other players need to be replaced but i wonder how much they can do in the winter transfer window

I'm sure there won't be much United can get in the winter transfer market. He'll get rid of some and bring in some. Although Amorim may have a list of players he wants. Not all of them will be available to United.
As you said, Amorim may have to get a new goalkeeper too. Who of course has better qualities. Onana has made many mistakes since Ten Hag's season in charge. I'm sure Amorim will have to think about getting a better replacement.

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Quote from: snipie on December 20, 2024, 06:10:45 AM

I agree that Leao might be a better option for Manchester United than Lookman. The two are good players but Leao proved himself in AC Milan many times and could adapt perfectly. I have some worries that Lookman will be the new Victor Osimhen, he needs to learn from his Nigerian teammate who was once, one of the best players in a season then he faded.

Why are you comparing the both players when they play differently and play for different teams at the club level. And even when they play in the national team, everyone does their job perfectly well. It doesn’t mean what happened to Osimehn will also happen to him. Lookman is a great player and not has he only proved it last season but also on the verge of it also this season. If given the opportunity to play for Manchester United, I am sure he will do well just like I also believe in Leao to be a good player for Manchester United when he’s signed. They play from same position and if they pick any of them will really help them in the forward position, I don’t see anything wrong in any of this two players if they want to go for them.

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These players are often over hyped by the Manchester United fans and then they think they are better than how they actually perform base on consistency. You cab see the chants of Amad Diallo, saying he is from Ivory Coast and better than Drogba and the Toure bros, https://youtu.be/U2lyOdKdatA?si=Fe17C179SfXQlUCX .

Someone who is just getting his career started is being compared with legends like Drogba and Toure bros, it's really shameful.

I don't think that players are often over hyped by Manchester United fans. And as for the Amad Diallo, I think it’s just a motivational chant to give him the necessary morale boost. I do not think the fans meant it in a disrespectful way or really implying he is better than Drogba, Kolo Toure or Yaya Toure.

I think it is somehow overhype and to be honest it doesn't seems totally as motivational chant, in fact that, that chant has a tendency of making him feel pressurized when things may not be working well for him and we may see something of such in the later time, since it's sometime understandable for youngsters not to underperform in some games.

Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho were once overhype, although majority of the fans don't really rate Rashford anymore as before thanks to the his inconsistency and he has not really try to improve his game while Garnacho still has a much better chance of getting the love he had before, if he do try to improve himself and get better rather than opt for leaving United.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on December 19, 2024, 11:32:01 AM

Your statement can't negate the fact that if Manchester United very often conceded goals in any games. This proves that how Amorim has not successfully reassembled his club's defensive line. I'm saying based on the statistic. If you didn't believe it, you can look at how many goals United conceded under Amorim.

That's why he has put more focus on their defensive line. I don't even see the depth on their defense now. I said based on the data.

If based on facts then the latest fact if you watch Man United against Tottenham how ineffective the attack line is and still need a striker. I will not deny that they need additional defenders but with the option of additional strikers it would be much better. Every recruitment is certainly based on needs, right?

The entire team needs to be rebuilt not just attack and defence. Even Onana at goal makes a lot of mistakes. They should build their team around Amad and Bruno because they are the only bright thing in this team. Other players need to be replaced but i wonder how much they can do in the winter transfer window

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on December 19, 2024, 11:32:01 AM

Your statement can't negate the fact that if Manchester United very often conceded goals in any games. This proves that how Amorim has not successfully reassembled his club's defensive line. I'm saying based on the statistic. If you didn't believe it, you can look at how many goals United conceded under Amorim.

That's why he has put more focus on their defensive line. I don't even see the depth on their defense now. I said based on the data.

If based on facts then the latest fact if you watch Man United against Tottenham how ineffective the attack line is and still need a striker. I will not deny that they need additional defenders but with the option of additional strikers it would be much better. Every recruitment is certainly based on needs, right?

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It seems that what will be taken into consideration is not only how well they score goals or making assists, but Ruben Amorim seems to prefer players who are not reluctant to chase the ball and help in defense, and it is for that reason that Marcus Rashford was sidelined by him. So who between Lookman and Rafael Leao do you think has that criteria?

It is not yet clear which player Amorin needs whether Lookman or Leao because both of these good players will be a heavy consideration perhaps for Amorin.
Can Man United buy this player in the winter or summer?
If summer is too long while this team needs the players Amorin wants.
How much is the offer for Lookman and Leao?

Well, until now I also can't see what kind of players Amorim wants with Manchester United at this time. In terms of game patterns, I can see a little bit of the big picture of what kind of game pattern Amorim wants to implement, but for players, now he is still looking for players who really fit his game pattern. Maybe in the next transfer window we will start to see which players he wants, at least we can see that from the player recruitment he does. Currently he only uses players from the previous Manchester United coach, so he always rotates to find players who can implement his strategy well.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on December 20, 2024, 09:16:34 AM

It is not yet clear which player Amorin needs whether Lookman or Leao because both of these good players will be a heavy consideration perhaps for Amorin.
Can Man United buy this player in the winter or summer?
If summer is too long while this team needs the players Amorin wants.
How much is the offer for Lookman and Leao?

Leao and Lookman are both great options honestly. Amorim is targeting to replace Rashford by getting rid of him as soon as possible. This would probably happen next summer rather than in the middle of the season I assume.

Leao's market value is 75 million euros while Lookman's is 55 million. However I really have no idea about how their teams would ask for these players. Sad

I believe Leao would surely be much more expensive.

I think both of them can be really helpful for the Red Devils. I like Leao's physical advantage really a lot. But Lookman is also a great finisher. Let's see... There is still a Nico Williams rumour too.

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Quote from: snipie on December 20, 2024, 06:10:45 AM

I agree that Leao might be a better option for Manchester United than Lookman. The two are good players but Leao proved himself in AC Milan many times and could adapt perfectly. I have some worries that Lookman will be the new Victor Osimhen, he needs to learn from his Nigerian teammate who was once, one of the best players in a season then he faded.

What's wrong with Osimhen? Osimhen is still a top player, he only had a fallout with his team and Lookman isn't having that problem. Moreover Napoli and Atalanta do businesses in different ways. Napoli is a difficult club, but Atalanta won't do that to Lookman.
Lookman has worked for Atalanta so I don't think they'll make things difficult for him to leave.
Osimhen hasn't faded, he's just playing in a lower team and league and despite that he's still playing top football. Lookman is a good player and he deserves to be in a bigger team like Arsenal. Not like he can't succeed in another team but Arsenal fits his profile.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 20, 2024, 04:12:28 AM

It seems that Arne Slot is not satisfied with the strength of the current squad, Liverpool is reportedly ready to submit a £50 million offer to Atalanta to recruit Charles De Ketelaere in the upcoming summer transfer market. His impressive performances with Atalanta have attracted interest from top European clubs, Liverpool keen to take the lead in the hunt for the young Belgian. If a deal is reached, De Ketelaere is expected to strengthen Liverpool attack next season.

Source: Football Express

Ketelaere is a good player. He performed extraordinarily with his current team. He's very impressive among all of the best players who have five goals involvements in one UCL match. This shows that how high his quality as a football player.

I wonder how much Atalanta will value him. I expect they to put around 50m - 70m for him. That price looks reasonable price considering he's still quite young and very talented. That's pretty interesting to see how it goes. It seems this plan is gonna be executed in the summer window, not winter i guess.

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