Topic: FORTUNEJACK.COM | Ongoing lawsuit, 120k usd stolen | Shady practices - page 7. (Read 2102 times)

Do you believe that the court knows the right answer? It's very hard to tell, there is no such thing as caught in the act when it comes to online gambling casinos, even if their games are audited it still doesn't mean they won't have their way of cheating, you can never win a gambling casino when it comes to what is right and what is wrong, it's their pace, their home, their house, you can't beat them at their own game and there is no proof of anything.

Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be, I doubt this can be proven even if they are into scamming, I've never use the casino before and the few ones I use am satisfied with them, if Fortune Jack sucks on your end find another online casino, there are too many options this days.

FortuneJack has been around for many years, so it is strange that these things are only being reported now. I have used Google to see if there are a lot of scam accusations against them, but there are not significant complaints to justify a "scam" label.  

You are not really giving a lot of information on the lawsuit, so I cannot judge this scenario ...based on the evidence that are being provided. Do you think a long lawsuit will cost you more than the money that are owned to you?

I`m surprised. I see the FortuneJack about 5 years at least and i think that it is good casino with good reputation. I played their few times and didn`t like it but i can`t say something bad about it. I hadn`t any problems with deposit and withdraw, the bets counted correctly and i didn`t contact with the support. But it was small money.
I can`t say anything bad about casino or about the OP but as i see they both sure that they are right. In such situation i think that only the court law will decide who is to blame.

What ever is happening to any casino has nothing to do with the user managing their campaign.
The campaign manager is only providing a service which he or she is hired and paid to provide, how the casino itself is being managed, the decisions that are being taken, things that are implemented or not implemented, is non the campaign managers business..

FortuneJack has been around for many years, so it is strange that these things are only being reported now. I have used Google to see if there are a lot of scam accusations against them, but there are not significant complaints to justify a "scam" label. 

You are not really giving a lot of information on the lawsuit, so I cannot judge this scenario ...based on the evidence that are being provided. Do you think a long lawsuit will cost you more than the money that are owned to you?

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...

I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279


And for those who clicked on this topic, I'll give you a bonus, that I think nobody else on the internet can give you, and that could save you some cheating from online casinos (since I've got first hand information).

This post though is about my own analysis and opinion on how things could go forward from here, not a certainty.

During last year, Casinos based in Curacao (like FortuneJack) have been arguing in the court of appeal that they don't have to pay any winnings for their customers, since they think the law cannot enforce anyone to pay gambling winnings (true story, coming from "casinos"). The decision of the court of appeal has been that yes they are organisations that have to pay winnings for the games they decide to offer.

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.


Edit: For the people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

Edit 22/04/23: I am not trusting anyone on this forum to give them more details or evidence in private message, so please don't ask. I do not intend to convince most people here, since experience shows they're mostly dishonest. It's for those who followed me here for some time and know I pretty much like the truth, and for those who have some common sense reading the link of my scam accusation above.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

Op since you have created Scam Accusation thread in this sub-board [ulr]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0]Scam Accusations[/url], there was no need for the creation of second thread on the same issue. That would be a thread within a thread, that is when you create a thread twice or more on the same purpose. Just like a case of double jeopardy in the court if law.

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

You are just using this thread to gain sympathy and use people that will believe you to question FJ integrity for a chance that they will reach you for settlement.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any? And for sure I won't because some people here ask lol.

If someone says this is FUD, then he should be asking FortuneJack if this is true or not beforehand. Me personally I've never lied here and never called anybody a liar in vain.

So what even if their business suffers, it's for the greater good of everyone else. Some people here said they want to discover for themselves so go ahead and ask. They won't be ignoring their campaign managers are they?

And I am not trying to save every customer of FortuneJack. We've seen casinos run away from their license countries before, just the ones who believe me and deserve it. For me, no problem, it's going to be their regulator who will pay.

Of what use is it asking FortuneJack anything? Even if all that you said here is true, as long as it is not in the public media yet, I am 100 percent sure that FortuneJack won't divulge any of this information to their customers at all level, as they already know that this could cause panic, and their business will suffer greatly, for no doubt, they will lose customers.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any?

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.