FORTUNEJACK.COM | Ongoing lawsuit, 120k usd stolen | Shady practices - page 9.

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Quote from: PaperWallet on April 21, 2023, 04:13:49 AM

Edit: For some stupid people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

Unfortunately for you, by not showing anything or giving details we are going to treat this thread as another FUD, it's unlikely Fortunejack going to respond here they will choose to ignore it even if there is a court proceeding going on since they are the defendant.
Good luck with your case I cannot blame you for going through all of this, it is such a huge amount, and only the result of the case will prove if you did the right thing, that is if you really file a case in court.

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I understand that when court cases are in court at many casinos given the nature of the case people are advised by their lawyers not to post relevant information about the progress of the court case. but there are things that are allowed to disclose for example you could have posted information like:

1 - in which court is the case, you can mention the country and city where the court is located

2 - what is the case number in the court, this can also be disclosed because with this information people know that they can locate the case number to know more about the accusation that weighs on FortuneJack

3 - you can also say if the court has already notified FortuneJack to give statements in court and if they have already been convicted or not, if the trial is taking place in the lower court or has already gone to higher courts

could you post evidence showing documents that indicate the case is in court. But you didn't do any of that, so it's really hard to believe you. Note that I am not defending FortuneJack either. I'm neutral because I don't know anything about this whole story

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Quote from: PaperWallet on April 21, 2023, 08:36:29 AM

If you're so interested, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). If not, ask sir Hhampuz Grin

I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details. As if I owe anybody anything here.

If you are not ready to. Give any evidence to validate your claims and to warn others from the casino how then you expect this thread to play any role, why should we waste more time on this discussion?

Having a negative trust rating on your profile should be enough reason why you need to go to extra lengths to convince us with your claims, but your saying you wouldn't share evidence on this case further planted the seed of doubt in most readers of this thread

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I mean. I have got nothing against people leaving their feedback or trying to warn other about some situation going on but, if this is actually going on, OP; it does not make much sense to say all these things if you cannot even disclose proof of the alleged lawsuit (I assume it is because it would hurt your case if you did so, it is understandable).

It is simply about people taking more serious those cases where you could (for example) show some legal document where that casino is being forced to go before a judge. At this point, you should have been aware of the skeptic the crypto community can be.

If this is not true and you are twisting the facts, then shame on you.

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It seems that OP have issues with Fortunejack, though if there is indeed a pending case then we should be more worry about it, the public should also be informed so they can know if they will still gamble with the site.

The money is not that small, though Fortunejack can easily settle this if they wanted to, maybe they are also confident about their system and believe that there’s no irregularities with their site, let’s just wait for the result of this case.

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PaperWallet, we don't doubt you but we are also humans and if you want to follow privacy and don't want to disclose anything, then nobody will believe you (even if you are trying to help others to save their money). I'd suggest you to try and contact one of the highly reputed legends on this forum, LoyceV (if he agrees) and share the details of the lawsuit and/or more evidence that you believe, may help you in your case here. We don't want to see anything, but for you to prove your point, it is also necessary that at least someone on this forum does the fact check and comes up here to either defend you or put the reality in front of everyone.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on April 21, 2023, 09:17:46 AM

Not trying to make you or anyone else think or believe that I believe what paperwallet said..
But then, it's also very possible to have a lawsuit ongoing without anybody knowing, most especially when the organization involved knows they that publicly announcing such could harm their reputation or probably cause their customers to start panicking which could in turn affect the organization's business negatively.

This may not be one of the lawsuits to hide, very possible that paper PaperWallet will follow this up and continue to update this thread unless the court order him not to do so, because all I could see now is that PaperWallet wanted to tanish the image of FortuneJack, not only about his money again, but also wanted his money though. If the lawsuit is hidden by the court, it only means that this thread created by PaperWallet is not useful, because what he wanted is for people to withdraw their money because of the lawsuit which we do not know anything about yet. Anything hidden for a reason not to let the customers of an organization to withdraw their money means the court has done their investigation on the organization and see that customers money are safe and do not want the organization to collapse because of customers panicking.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on April 21, 2023, 04:52:41 AM

What the big deal is, is to see it on a trustworthy news that FortuneJack has been sued to court, but there is nothing like that yet. Or if I am wrong, PaperWallet should prove that. This is just about I am coming for you, FortuneJack.

Then, according to OP, you're stupid Tongue

Quote from: PaperWallet on April 21, 2023, 04:13:49 AM

Edit: For some stupid people posting here, saying this is FUD,

I tend to avoid criticizing possible whistleblowers, but when they insult readers in their first post, you know there's something more going on.

Quote from: PaperWallet on April 21, 2023, 04:13:49 AM

go ask FortuneJack

OP, if this is real, why don't YOU ask Fortunejack about it and post the conversation. You want us to work as your personal army of trolls, or what?
You're being bossy and can't even accept a bit of constructive criticism.

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I do not know what is the discussion on this thread is about. Yes Fortunejack maybe has an ongoing lawsuit, but there is yet to be any conclusion on that, creating this thread may be tagged as FUD since there is nothing to support that FJ is guilty of such action. I think @OP is too exciting about the development of the case and this thread is posted because of it.

Quote from: Gozie51 on April 21, 2023, 10:38:54 AM

I don't think such news or story of lawsuit to such amount can be swept under the carpet. The press can not be gaged on that because it is a sellable news. Op can provide the lawsuit link if that is real but FortuneJack should make clearification to the scam accusation against them to build back the confidence of their customer.

If the case is ongoing, I think Fortunejack has nothing to clear here until the decision of the court favors them (if there is really that lawsuit). I have come to see the trust feedback of @OP and it looks like he has the personal vendetta of creating thread spreading news about how FJ scammed him. But the thing is, if this case is already in filed and under court, @OP should wait for the decision instead of starting his personal vendetta against FJ all over again. His previously created thread is still around this forum, and the scam accusation is still on the forum so I do not think creating a new one is necessary, this would be considered spam, honestly.

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Ok so first when I made my scam accusation against FortuneJack, they asked for evidence. After I gave evidence, for the most part they refused to red tag FortuneJack and gave them full support for this theft.

Now I say there's an ongoing lawsuit, but everyone is jumping to say this is not true, + they want evidence. Thks God that in the afterlife, the everlasting one, the society of theft and lies will belong to hell and will be separated from the good society.

For those who know me here, they know I've always said the truth.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on April 21, 2023, 09:17:46 AM

But then, it's also very possible to have a lawsuit ongoing without anybody knowing, most especially when the organization involved knows they that publicly announcing such could harm their reputation or probably cause their customers to start panicking which could in turn affect the organization's business negatively.

I don't think such news or story of lawsuit to such amount can be swept under the carpet. The press can not be gaged on that because it is a sellable news. Op can provide the lawsuit link if that is real but FortuneJack should make clearification to the scam accusation against them to build back the confidence of their customer.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on April 21, 2023, 04:52:41 AM

Quote from: ufaiz50 on April 21, 2023, 04:35:03 AM

I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

What the big deal is, is to see it on a trustworthy news that FortuneJack has been sued to court, but there is nothing like that yet. Or if I am wrong, PaperWallet should prove that. This is just about I am coming for you, FortuneJack.

Not trying to make you or anyone else think or believe that I believe what paperwallet said..
But then, it's also very possible to have a lawsuit ongoing without anybody knowing, most especially when the organization involved knows they that publicly announcing such could harm their reputation or probably cause their customers to start panicking which could in turn affect the organization's business negatively.

If Indeed FortuneJack has a lawsuit against them, I don't expect them to say anything, atleast, until the signs begin to show, this is if the lawsuit is not resolved immediately though.

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Quote from: PaperWallet on April 21, 2023, 04:13:49 AM

Edit: For some stupid people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

I really lost my concentration reading this topic (FortuneJack), did I see wrongly and read the number 120k USD, isn't that money that can be used to make other businesses instead of having to enter it in the gambling arena, whether it's right or wrong, what is certain is that I am also an active member of FortuneJack, but I have never experienced anything that has harmed me, winning and losing are commonplace that I have experienced on gambling sites including FortuneJack.

not talking about Curacao licenses and laws, let's talk about the FortuneJack thread, which is here as well as a FortuneJack representative, indeed lately I have seen that there are many well-known gambling sites that have been accused of fraud, but none of them have been proven, user errors that often go berserk and create threads of accusations.

OP, it seems that the FortuneJack representative has explained here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58318691 about your case, so what is it and other things that make you dissatisfied with the answers of the FortuneJack team.

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If you're so interested, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). If not, ask sir Hhampuz Grin

I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details. As if I owe anybody anything here.

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Quote from: PaperWallet on April 21, 2023, 04:13:49 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279

And for those who clicked on this topic, I'll give you a bonus, that I think nobody else on the internet can give you, and that could save you some cheating from online casinos (since I've got first hand information).

This post though is about my own analysis and opinion on how things could go forward from here, not a certainty.

During last year, Casinos based in Curacao (like FortuneJack) have been arguing in the court of appeal that they don't have to pay any winnings for their customers, since they think the law cannot enforce anyone to pay gambling winnings (true story, coming from "casinos"). The decision of the court of appeal has been that yes they are organisations that have to pay winnings for the games they decide to offer.

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

Pretty sure they have a running campaign in here, and they are paying their people well so it surprises me severely to find out that they have a lawsuit going on against them. But I get it, them not paying their customers for their wins is a different story so I understand why people are so quick to jump in this topic.

Addendum: It strikes me that you are the one that's filed a lawsuit against them, provide ample evidence in court along with the conversation screenshots of the agent that you talked to so you can have a good fighting chance and be able to get paid for your wins.

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I'm just going to follow this case actually you have also created it on the fraud board so it's true said @coin-investor no need to create another thread here my advice is better to focus on the thread on the accusation board and close this thread I know this is the right way powerful to attract attention so that people see your case, I am interested in exploring this case but will not side with anyone because it is not my job to judge it, so just focus on one thread.

So far, I've played Fortunejack, never had a problem making a deposit or withdrawal, maybe I'm just a small gambler, so everything is processed easily and I've never played with big money at the casino for fear of problems like what I don't want or the case you're experiencing. , but let's see how the response from the fortunejack team responds to your problem here

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Quote from: Oshosondy on April 21, 2023, 04:52:41 AM

Quote from: ufaiz50 on April 21, 2023, 04:35:03 AM

I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

What the big deal is, is to see it on a trustworthy news that FortuneJack has been sued to court, but there is nothing like that yet. Or if I am wrong, PaperWallet should prove that. This is just about I am coming for you, FortuneJack.

This is an ongoing attack against Fortunejack OP even held a contest for opposing and supporting flags for and against Fortunejack, until we see at least one article about Fortunejack on trusted gambling reviews like Askgamblers that it is being charged in court, we can consider this as another FUD.
I would not take this seriously until I see one, its been over a year but until now open is still at it.

Quote from: PaperWallet on May 22, 2022, 06:49:43 AM

As a gesture of good will and to demonstrate that I really care, and not trolling, for all participants who either oppose or support the flag, I will be giving away 10mBTC (~300$ as of today) on the 1st of June to 10 members who either supported or opposed the flag. You have the same probability of winning whether you opposed or supported.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 21, 2023, 05:13:26 AM

Since you already posted this in your accusation against FortuneJack in the scam section you don't have to create this kind of discussion you just have to update the threat for any development of the case since you cannot provide details of the court proceeding, because if you provide it, the court may contempt you so if the hearing is ongoing then give us an update when there's already a resolution or people will think that you are just creating FUDS and you are just inventing this court proceeding.

That is about scam accusation, this is about lawsuit, they are different. But what I see not good is that nothing like lawsuit yet but posting about here. Let us see how it goes, if truly there would be a lawsuit against ForjuneJack, there would not be another thread created about it. But we should know that scam accusation and lawsuit are worth separate threads.

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Any leads so that we aren't that grasping from darkness on this case, I click the link you provided and it was just you saying it's ongoing. Well, anyhow let's see it's ongoing and we value that privacy and that stolen was really huge and hope you can get that. It may take some time though but will be good if there's news if you succeed or not.

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Since you already posted this in your accusation against FortuneJack in the scam section you don't have to create this kind of discussion you just have to update the threat for any development of the case since you cannot provide details of the court proceeding, because if you provide it, the court may contempt you so if the hearing is ongoing then give us an update when there's already a resolution or people will think that you are just creating FUDS and you are just inventing this court proceeding.

Quote from: PaperWallet on April 21, 2023, 03:32:21 AM

What's happening now is that justice will soon prevail, in my opinion, since the lawsuit is going forward. That's a lucky thing to get justice on this earth though.

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