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citronick

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Quote from: arielbit on May 26, 2017, 02:09:08 AM

changed my strategy now...buying expensive cards only... will buy 1080ti's only and after that check on AMD's vega cards if its worthy.

with space and efficiency I think it is about time i replace my old cards one by one...like what philipma1957 says a at least a hundred dollars (or more) a day can get me one 1080ti a week Cheesy

gamers must be hating us miners now for "out of stock" cards.....or they are starting to mine crypto now Grin

I had a good run on R9-390s running ETH solo and selling tons of ETH late 2015-early 2016 at $19 bucks..... with those proceeds... decided to buy R9 Nanos at nearly 450$ a pop -- my rationale was that this is a once in a lifetime chance to get a decent high end R9 and it will be good after sales when I am done with ETH mining, POS etc..... damn that was 2 years ago and the R9s are still are beasts in ZEC mining almost 440sols per card with under 200tdp.

I will use the same rationale for 1080ti because its a very good high end 4k VR gaming card -- well justified for resale to gamers, while it is also a beast in ZEC, ETH and other algos.

The MSI and Gigabyte 1080ti are quite good because of their legendary cooling systems -- others like Asus and Zotac..... also Colorful could well be our 2nd choice if we run out of luck of the MSIs and Gigabytes.

flminer

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Question on pdu's. With the monitored/metered pdu can you remotely powercycle rigs via internet? or do you need to have comp connected on same network? basically not sure that would work. And if using windows is there a way to have it automatically boot without having to manually choose to boot windows normally?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 25, 2017, 11:35:22 PM

Quote from: citronick on May 25, 2017, 11:10:03 PM

I have 4 x 1080tis and 4 x 1070 currently.

Thanks to the BTC rise (even at 2300 something it is still an incredible level).... ordered another 4 more 1080ti

I decided to standardize on the MSI Z270A-Pro for NVIDIA farm -- compatible perfectly with fullzero's nvoc Linux OS.

Late last night, my group put another early order of 12 x MSI and Aorus 1080ti but....... it fell through..... got email from supplier NO STOCK and both MSI and Gigabyte have not updated next shipment schedules.

Supplier has indicated that crypto currency boom basically getting practically all NVIDIA GPUs off the shelves as soon as they are available in store and basically no stock for online sales.

If you have not bought that 1080ti or still deciding..... my advise is get them now before its too late.

Its bad enough that practically RX500 and RX400 cards are hard to come by nowadays...... now NVIDIA has gotten the crypto bug too.

I suspect that by the time VEGA comes in.... every card from AMD or NVIDIA will be above normal price.

I think Intel will soon come to play in the GPU arena.

I will not be surprised if we will see "unknowns" from China coming out ...... like this brand called COLORFUL.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/colorful-launches-igame-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-vulcan-x-oc.html

What scares me is I called all of this so perfectly since last April .

I would argue and fight with people that alt coins mined by gpus would take off due to so many economical factors that we all need to have a piece of it.

13 x 1080 ti's earn good coins. Around 100 a day. That is a 1080 ti every 8 days.

I run them at 70% tdp. And if it gets too warm I will drop power to 55%.

Thanks to you I've decided to run all 1080 Ti's, tested 1060, 1070 and RX 470's and 1080 ti's just fit for me because I don't have enough power. All the rooms in my house are on crappy 15A breakers so I'm screwed on running a lot of rigs Sad

Do you tweak anything else on the 1080ti's besides bringing tdp down to 70%?

Thanks agian for the help!

arielbit

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changed my strategy now...buying expensive cards only... will buy 1080ti's only and after that check on AMD's vega cards if its worthy.

with space and efficiency I think it is about time i replace my old cards one by one...like what philipma1957 says a at least a hundred dollars (or more) a day can get me one 1080ti a week Cheesy

gamers must be hating us miners now for "out of stock" cards.....or they are starting to mine crypto now Grin

flminer

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 25, 2017, 11:08:38 PM

Quote from: LoneRangir on May 25, 2017, 10:22:19 PM

Isn't it all about establishing a cost basis? Buying then selling BTC is a pretty cut and dry calculation. How do you derive a cost when mining? Does electricity and hardware costs come into play? Can I deduct noise pollution? My wife would want to

Okay I sold a ton of cards for coin.

Say eight coins. And say they are deposited in coin base at the prices of 1000

Times 8 = 8000 cost value and say I sold all the coins for 2000 each that is 16000

So 16000-8000 = 8000 short term gain.

So the 8000 in btc put coin base it was acquired via sales to the forum.

Different rules since that involves buying the cards mining paying for power and then selling the coins.

Basically I was doing mining to get money back to sell cards cheaply to all you guys.

It was a win win for me and for people that got a good deal from me.

The goal was to make a small profit on cards and then reach a point of selling them.

So I was ahead maybe 1000 bucks on the 8 coins put into coin base .

Ie I spent 7000 to get 8 btc. Worth 8000.

So not a big deal. But when coins Zoomed to the moon I made a short term gain of 8000 this may.

I realized after the run up back in 2013 . That if I could thread water promoting all coins making a small profit

Sooner or later a run up would happen and I would score some money.

Best thing is I think I got hundreds of people making some money on this and I know I helped to promote mining for the better. Fun for me and the rest of us.

Haven't scored one of your sale cards yet, but the help from you and everyone else on here has been a both invaluable and a great inspiration! Much appreciated! Grin

philipma1957

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Quote from: citronick on May 25, 2017, 11:10:03 PM

I have 4 x 1080tis and 4 x 1070 currently.

Thanks to the BTC rise (even at 2300 something it is still an incredible level).... ordered another 4 more 1080ti

I decided to standardize on the MSI Z270A-Pro for NVIDIA farm -- compatible perfectly with fullzero's nvoc Linux OS.

Late last night, my group put another early order of 12 x MSI and Aorus 1080ti but....... it fell through..... got email from supplier NO STOCK and both MSI and Gigabyte have not updated next shipment schedules.

Supplier has indicated that crypto currency boom basically getting practically all NVIDIA GPUs off the shelves as soon as they are available in store and basically no stock for online sales.

If you have not bought that 1080ti or still deciding..... my advise is get them now before its too late.

Its bad enough that practically RX500 and RX400 cards are hard to come by nowadays...... now NVIDIA has gotten the crypto bug too.

I suspect that by the time VEGA comes in.... every card from AMD or NVIDIA will be above normal price.

I think Intel will soon come to play in the GPU arena.

I will not be surprised if we will see "unknowns" from China coming out ...... like this brand called COLORFUL.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/colorful-launches-igame-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-vulcan-x-oc.html

What scares me is I called all of this so perfectly since last April .

I would argue and fight with people that alt coins mined by gpus would take off due to so many economical factors that we all need to have a piece of it.

13 x 1080 ti's earn good coins. Around 100 a day. That is a 1080 ti every 8 days.

I run them at 70% tdp. And if it gets too warm I will drop power to 55%.

citronick

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I have 4 x 1080tis and 4 x 1070 currently.

Thanks to the BTC rise (even at 2300 something it is still an incredible level).... ordered another 4 more 1080ti

I decided to standardize on the MSI Z270A-Pro for NVIDIA farm -- compatible perfectly with fullzero's nvoc Linux OS.

Late last night, my group put another early order of 12 x MSI and Aorus 1080ti but....... it fell through..... got email from supplier NO STOCK and both MSI and Gigabyte have not updated next shipment schedules.

Supplier has indicated that crypto currency boom basically getting practically all NVIDIA GPUs off the shelves as soon as they are available in store and basically no stock for online sales.

If you have not bought that 1080ti or still deciding..... my advise is get them now before its too late.

Its bad enough that practically RX500 and RX400 cards are hard to come by nowadays...... now NVIDIA has gotten the crypto bug too.

I suspect that by the time VEGA comes in.... every card from AMD or NVIDIA will be above normal price.

I think Intel will soon come to play in the GPU arena.

I will not be surprised if we will see "unknowns" from China coming out ...... like this brand called COLORFUL.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/colorful-launches-igame-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-vulcan-x-oc.html

philipma1957

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Quote from: LoneRangir on May 25, 2017, 10:22:19 PM

Isn't it all about establishing a cost basis? Buying then selling BTC is a pretty cut and dry calculation. How do you derive a cost when mining? Does electricity and hardware costs come into play? Can I deduct noise pollution? My wife would want to

Okay I sold a ton of cards for coin.

Say eight coins. And say they are deposited in coin base at the prices of 1000

Times 8 = 8000 cost value and say I sold all the coins for 2000 each that is 16000

So 16000-8000 = 8000 short term gain.

So the 8000 in btc put coin base it was acquired via sales to the forum.

Different rules since that involves buying the cards mining paying for power and then selling the coins.

Basically I was doing mining to get money back to sell cards cheaply to all you guys.

It was a win win for me and for people that got a good deal from me.

The goal was to make a small profit on cards and then reach a point of selling them.

So I was ahead maybe 1000 bucks on the 8 coins put into coin base .

Ie I spent 7000 to get 8 btc. Worth 8000.

So not a big deal. But when coins Zoomed to the moon I made a short term gain of 8000 this may.

I realized after the run up back in 2013 . That if I could thread water promoting all coins making a small profit

Sooner or later a run up would happen and I would score some money.

Best thing is I think I got hundreds of people making some money on this and I know I helped to promote mining for the better. Fun for me and the rest of us.

JaredKaragen

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Quote from: LoneRangir on May 25, 2017, 10:22:19 PM

Isn't it all about establishing a cost basis? Buying then selling BTC is a pretty cut and dry calculation. How do you derive a cost when mining? Does electricity and hardware costs come into play? Can I deduct noise pollution? My wife would want to

see if I buy hardware; lets say GPU's. I know what they are worth, and they are in my hand. Their value fluctuates on a very small variable... "What model is next"

That being said; buying a GPU and putting it to work, is very predictable and reliable; comparatively. IF the market tanks and BTC value drops to the point mining is not profitable; Sell the hardware.

If you had to do that to the BTC u bought instead; you are an automatic looser without looking into any more details at all.

LoneRangir

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Isn't it all about establishing a cost basis? Buying then selling BTC is a pretty cut and dry calculation. How do you derive a cost when mining? Does electricity and hardware costs come into play? Can I deduct noise pollution? My wife would want to

JaredKaragen

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 25, 2017, 10:06:40 PM

See that bold even if it tanks to 1500.

My sell point was 1200. for the first coin I sold to coin base. This month.😀

I will have to file a capital gains return next year. Since coin base will report my gains.

Yeah; It's interesting how this will all play out on the government/tax side of things.

...how the government starts trying to tax a person to person BTC exchange, or some other type of trade service; will be an interesting thing to watch in the years to come.

Since they can't exactly levy or prove anything beyond what is exchanged for fiat at a "bank"....

I'm curious on where this will all lead the FED and the IRS to behave....

The IRS is already a criminal entity by action... (stealing your possessions and incarcerating you for not ***voluntarily*** paying them is a prime example)... [yes, federal income tax compliance as defined in the tax code is: voluntary"
There is no federal law code or statute that requires you to pay an income tax.... there's a group that wrote their own code that forces you to do it....

"The tax code" is by no means "binding law" in the slightest....

I wonder when people will wake up to that notion...

anyways, i'm done ranting on that tangent.
Food for thought.

philipma1957

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Quote from: JaredKaragen on May 25, 2017, 08:58:21 PM

same.... I am still blown away by my daily profitability on my personal miners (the ones I don't profit split)...

The snowball effect is in full force.... Henry's one machine buys 2 used 1080's a month. That's some damned good growth.

My altcoin trading account last night hit all of my sell orders for my big holdings aside from 2 coins; and Im all in with the .06 on my exchange account on low value coins that have yet to blossom. They can't ever get cheaper, so ANY movement is a big increase for me.

I still play a few day trades now and then when I feel like sitting at a casino; but I definitely (so far) earn way more with my miners and have two friends working with me right now to build them rigs like the last 1080 rackminer I did. The 1K+/mo is too tempting to many =)

Even if BTC tanks to > 1500; I always pay outright for my hardware, and consider it "paid off" when bought, and Ill still be making plenty of profit, so the future looks bright indeed.

What happens when ETH goes POS; I personally think It won't be as bad as i have imagined.

See that bold even if it tanks to 1500.

My sell point was 1200. for the first coin I sold to coin base. This month.😀

I will have to file a capital gains return next year. Since coin base will report my gains.

JaredKaragen

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Quote from: LoneRangir on May 25, 2017, 09:26:11 PM

Quote from: JaredKaragen on May 25, 2017, 08:58:21 PM

Even if BTC tanks to > 1500; I always pay outright for my hardware, and consider it "paid off" when bought, and Ill still be making plenty of profit, so the future looks bright indeed.

What happens when ETH goes POS; I personally think It won't be as bad as i have imagined.

That is the same way I view hardware, too. I buy hardware with "the house's money" at this point. The resale value of any cards/rigs is just gravy.

When ETH goes POS, we go ETC Wink

I hope that's what most do...

It will keep my multi-pool profits at a premium Wink

LoneRangir

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Quote from: JaredKaragen on May 25, 2017, 08:58:21 PM

Even if BTC tanks to > 1500; I always pay outright for my hardware, and consider it "paid off" when bought, and Ill still be making plenty of profit, so the future looks bright indeed.

What happens when ETH goes POS; I personally think It won't be as bad as i have imagined.

That is the same way I view hardware, too. I buy hardware with "the house's money" at this point. The resale value of any cards/rigs is just gravy.

When ETH goes POS, we go ETC Wink

JaredKaragen

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same.... I am still blown away by my daily profitability on my personal miners (the ones I don't profit split)...

The snowball effect is in full force.... Henry's one machine buys 2 used 1080's a month. That's some damned good growth.

My altcoin trading account last night hit all of my sell orders for my big holdings aside from 2 coins; and Im all in with the .06 on my exchange account on low value coins that have yet to blossom. They can't ever get cheaper, so ANY movement is a big increase for me.

I still play a few day trades now and then when I feel like sitting at a casino; but I definitely (so far) earn way more with my miners and have two friends working with me right now to build them rigs like the last 1080 rackminer I did. The 1K+/mo is too tempting to many =)

Even if BTC tanks to > 1500; I always pay outright for my hardware, and consider it "paid off" when bought, and Ill still be making plenty of profit, so the future looks bright indeed.

What happens when ETH goes POS; I personally think It won't be as bad as i have imagined.

VyprBTC

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 25, 2017, 08:48:16 PM

Quote from: JaredKaragen on May 25, 2017, 07:43:23 PM

yes; 8 sucks donkeyball$. Plain and simple. Another Vista/Me, if you ask me.

Win 7 is useful, and doesn't fail... yet...

Win10 is pretty solid; but once you get past the need for auto-updates, etc... all that phil mentioned.

I wont be using win10 on my "off the grid/satellite" mining locations I am working on. Cellular connections are not data friendly; and having a whole farm on a cellular connection try and process updates is retarded (so far the PC-PC on LAN update sharing has done d!ck for saving me some bandwidth every month).
I have finally worked on a huge group of IP range bans, and other firewall/hosts filters to prevent machines on win10 from updating. One trick is to keep only a few hundred Mb free to not make it possible for it to even download them....

But, in locations where data count is going to matter, I can; and will not use 10 for that reason.

Otherwise its my first choice honestly.

I upgraded al my win 10 to enterprise and then did some command line crap. and it is pretty much update free.

but frankly for me win 7 was a pleasure and still is a pleasure to use.

I am not anti linux or anti mac. or anti amd or anti nvidia or anti much of anything at all.

two exceptions are windows 8 and segwit. but I just want the thread to be friendly more then anything.

The world of crypto coin has just had insane monster growth and a ton of money is moving around. So lets party.

I just got another nvidia 1080 ti and have one coming on tues

tomorrow I am bringing a 1080 to a friend in Brooklyn. I have an asus strix 1070 and a msi 1060 3gb which have to go.

I may get 2 more galax katana 1070's.

so final gear would be 13 x 1080 ti's
4 x Galax katana 1070's

both zec and skein are doing so well I find it hard to believe things are this good.

That's super kickass! I'm building more 1080ti rigs because of you guys as well lol Thanks for the inspiration!

What miner u using for ZEC? I am using Nemos as you guys suggested which is going well with the 1070's and 1080 Ti's.

Only getting 800-850 on the 1080ti's and getting around 400-450 on the 1070's. I just don't think my afterburner settings are that great.

philipma1957

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Quote from: JaredKaragen on May 25, 2017, 07:43:23 PM

yes; 8 sucks donkeyball$. Plain and simple. Another Vista/Me, if you ask me.

Win 7 is useful, and doesn't fail... yet...

Win10 is pretty solid; but once you get past the need for auto-updates, etc... all that phil mentioned.

I wont be using win10 on my "off the grid/satellite" mining locations I am working on. Cellular connections are not data friendly; and having a whole farm on a cellular connection try and process updates is retarded (so far the PC-PC on LAN update sharing has done d!ck for saving me some bandwidth every month).
I have finally worked on a huge group of IP range bans, and other firewall/hosts filters to prevent machines on win10 from updating. One trick is to keep only a few hundred Mb free to not make it possible for it to even download them....

But, in locations where data count is going to matter, I can; and will not use 10 for that reason.

Otherwise its my first choice honestly.

I upgraded al my win 10 to enterprise and then did some command line crap. and it is pretty much update free.

but frankly for me win 7 was a pleasure and still is a pleasure to use.

I am not anti linux or anti mac. or anti amd or anti nvidia or anti much of anything at all.

two exceptions are windows 8 and segwit. but I just want the thread to be friendly more then anything.

The world of crypto coin has just had insane monster growth and a ton of money is moving around. So lets party.

I just got another nvidia 1080 ti and have one coming on tues

tomorrow I am bringing a 1080 to a friend in Brooklyn. I have an asus strix 1070 and a msi 1060 3gb which have to go.

I may get 2 more galax katana 1070's.

so final gear would be 13 x 1080 ti's
4 x Galax katana 1070's

both zec and skein are doing so well I find it hard to believe things are this good.

JaredKaragen

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yes; 8 sucks donkeyball$. Plain and simple. Another Vista/Me, if you ask me.

Win 7 is useful, and doesn't fail... yet...

Win10 is pretty solid; but once you get past the need for auto-updates, etc... all that phil mentioned.

I wont be using win10 on my "off the grid/satellite" mining locations I am working on. Cellular connections are not data friendly; and having a whole farm on a cellular connection try and process updates is retarded (so far the PC-PC on LAN update sharing has done d!ck for saving me some bandwidth every month).
I have finally worked on a huge group of IP range bans, and other firewall/hosts filters to prevent machines on win10 from updating. One trick is to keep only a few hundred Mb free to not make it possible for it to even download them....

But, in locations where data count is going to matter, I can; and will not use 10 for that reason.

Otherwise its my first choice honestly.

philipma1957

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This is silly. You simply are not knowledgeable or skilled with the Windows OS, which is fine; this isn't the fault of the OS. The same hour, it takes you to setup a Linux install, I could install Windows 8/10 from scratch and have a miner up and running. Heck I could probably do three or four back to back with how fast Windows installs these days. The longest part would be waiting for the graphics drivers to install.

Use what you are familiar with, leave the rest to people that are familiar with them. Spreading this kind of BS really isn't helpful to anyone.

Quote from: QuintLeo on May 25, 2017, 03:52:06 PM

Quote from: vg54dett on May 25, 2017, 04:49:07 AM

Quote from: flminer on May 25, 2017, 02:53:10 AM

Has anyone had any luck mining with Windows 8? Wondering if it will run 8 gpu.

https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=155

But I'm asking myself which windows 8 it is ?
is professionnal enough ? or do we need the rare enterprise edition ?

what about SMos, would it handle the 8 GPUs on that MB ?

Given the totally unusable so-called "user interface" on 8, you can't PAY me to try to use that turkey piece of junk in a mining machine ever again.
One attempt, and never got past the damned default so-called UI in 6 hours of TRYING was more than enough.
It took me less than an hour on that SAME machine (that came preinstalled with 8 and SUPPOSEDLY already had miner software installed) to blow 8 off it, install LINUX, install dependencies, compile and install and configure mining software, and get the machine hashing.

It says a lot about 8 that it looks like Microsoft is going to support it for a SHORTER total period of time than they offered support for ME or Vista (both of which got outlived by YEARS by previous Windows versions).

When even Microsoft concedes an OS version is junk......you KNOW it's got to be horrible!

I deleted this as I don't want fights over windows 7,windows 8, windows 10 as usual I quoted the deleted post.

I like 7

I don't like 8 at all

10 has a few tricks to master so you don't get the mining software deleted
and so you can stop updates.

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There won't be major differences in core functionality between Professional and Enterprise. Nothing that matters to mining anyways.

Honestly though, Windows 10 works very well as a miner straight out of the box so I don't see much reason not to upgrade.

Quote from: vg54dett on May 25, 2017, 04:49:07 AM

Quote from: flminer on May 25, 2017, 02:53:10 AM

Has anyone had any luck mining with Windows 8? Wondering if it will run 8 gpu.

https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=155

But I'm asking myself which windows 8 it is ?
is professionnal enough ? or do we need the rare enterprise edition ?

what about SMos, would it handle the 8 GPUs on that MB ?

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