Pages:
Author

Topic: Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized. - page 77. (Read 108819 times)

legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
The katana  stands at this second one comes on weds.

and I may get 2 more next week I did some facebook talk  with them.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

It's a risk, up to you to assess how small or large.  GFCI the circuit that serves the room, maybe.

 DO PUT A GFCI (either a replace-the-outlet type or replace the breaker in the panel doesn't matter which) on any circuit that serves a fan in a window.

 However, if the window is on the "normally downwind" side of your home, the screen should keep any water from entering your home that way.


 Having both intake AND exhaust fans is generally redundant - IMO go all one or all the other, don't mix-and-match or you're wasting electricity for little or no return.

 Pushing or pulling air in the same direction as it's natural flow (either through heat rise or wind pass through) works better than trying to fight the natural flow.


 To Citronick:
 I like the Gigabyte 2 fan model 1070s https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875 which are fairly often on sale for about as low as any other 1070 model but seem to clock as high as any of them.
 Their ITX 1070 model https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125893 isn't quite as fast, but works VERY nicely in the "outside" slot of my 3-card rigs for heat management on the middle card as it's only about 7" long and leaves one fan on the middle card completely clear.

sr. member
Activity: 463
Merit: 301
Phil  did Galax get back to you about more Katana's?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:



#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.
   pull from the window  go out the roof.


if rain is an issue.  make a   hood to block the rain.

intake fans are less important then exhaust.  and exhaust out the roof  is best as hot air rises.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:



#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.

It's a risk, up to you to assess how small or large.  GFCI the circuit that serves the room, maybe.  Possibly just as easy as a single electrical outlet changeout, don't remember for sure.  You seem to like Home Depot, so http://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-20-Amp-125-Volt-AFCI-GFCI-Dual-Function-Outlet-White-AGTR2-W/300049855.  $26, and a decent industrial grade outlet has to be what, 4-5 bucks tops now, my WAG?  I definitely regret all the ones I've replaced with dollar ones now, just because of house cleaners yanking vacuum cleaner cords out the easy way.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:

#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.

water can easily get past the screen, they just gonna get a bit smaller..try it, sprinkle some and see the results..

considered thinking about drawing air from the ceiling?...fans are still on the windows(pushing air out of it) air will be pulled from the door and ceiling as fans in the windows exhaust hot air.

Hm yeah I could do that too. I didn't even consider that I always just assumed it would be best to go from the window.

The door leads to another interior room though, that's kinda hot in general. I may be able to intake air from the roof and disperse it through ducts at ground level though. And use fans on the ground to push that cool air up.

legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1059
Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:

#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.

water can easily get past the screen, they just gonna get a bit smaller..try it, sprinkle some and see the results..

considered thinking about drawing air from the ceiling?...fans are still on the windows(pushing air out of it) air will be pulled from the door and ceiling as fans in the windows exhaust hot air.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:



#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.

Yeah that is a concern for me. However I have the window screen still on so that should help.
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1059
Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:



#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

there is a danger of pulling rain water too aside of cool air from the window/s since the fans are giving them extra push.
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1059
Can someone recommended settings for 1080ti?

I have a 6x 1080ti rig, each running 60% power limit, +250 core, -500 mem (mem oc or underclock, no hash difference).
Getting only about 600 sols and 4sol/w. 900w at the wall for about 3600 sols. Voltage is unchanged.


It seems low compared to gtc 1070 which can do 450sol at 60% power limit. Should I undervolt?

wow.... 6 x 1080ti is an incredible$ rig

Post some pictures will ya?

I know;  after seeing the hashrates out of just 5x 1080's, I can only imagine how the ti feels when you get the pools payout 3 times a day... lol.

and he must be constantly watching it...in case if it hangs hehe
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
The Galax Katana 1070 has sold out.   I only have 1 and 1 on order.

It is what happens when you post a nice thread  some whale looks at the work  and buys out all the hardware fucked again.

I think I won't be posting for a few days.

Panda

Now this. Angry

Here's what you should do going forward Phil.

Get one, test it and see if you like it. If you do, go back and buy however many you think you want, THEN post the nice reviews online.

This way you'll have secured yours and let other people scoop up the remaining stock.

yeah  I should have also really looked better at the facebook message  back on May 1 or May 2.

ah  such is life.

back to the drawing board over here.... I think I will just go for a slightly chubby 1070 then - any recommendations?

  the zotac 1070 mini gets a good buzz.

I do not have one

but the zotac 1080 mini is good and I have that.


newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Can someone recommended settings for 1080ti?

I have a 6x 1080ti rig, each running 60% power limit, +250 core, -500 mem (mem oc or underclock, no hash difference).
Getting only about 600 sols and 4sol/w. 900w at the wall for about 3600 sols. Voltage is unchanged.


It seems low compared to gtc 1070 which can do 450sol at 60% power limit. Should I undervolt?

I have a pair of 1080ti FE's in a closed rack mount case and they get the following:

Power limit of 50% gets me ~525 sol/s and 4.2 sol/W @ 120W per card
Power limit of 60% gets me ~620 sol/s and 4.1 sol/W @ 150W per card
Power limit of 70% gets me ~670 sol/s and 3.8 sol/W @ 177W per card
Power limit of 80% gets me ~700 sol/s and 3.5 sol/W @ 200W per card
Power limit of 90% gets me ~725 sol/s and 3.2 sol/W @ 220W per card

It seems to me that these 1080ti's love core clock, and memory speed really doesn't make that much difference. I also found -300 mem was good Smiley


What core oc are you doing in those benchmarks?

And ya seems like mem clock doesn't make a difference, does -300 just save heat/power?
sr. member
Activity: 349
Merit: 250
Can someone recommended settings for 1080ti?

I have a 6x 1080ti rig, each running 60% power limit, +250 core, -500 mem (mem oc or underclock, no hash difference).
Getting only about 600 sols and 4sol/w. 900w at the wall for about 3600 sols. Voltage is unchanged.


It seems low compared to gtc 1070 which can do 450sol at 60% power limit. Should I undervolt?

I have a pair of 1080ti FE's in a closed rack mount case and they get the following:

Power limit of 50% gets me ~525 sol/s and 4.2 sol/W @ 120W per card
Power limit of 60% gets me ~620 sol/s and 4.1 sol/W @ 150W per card
Power limit of 70% gets me ~670 sol/s and 3.8 sol/W @ 177W per card
Power limit of 80% gets me ~700 sol/s and 3.5 sol/W @ 200W per card
Power limit of 90% gets me ~725 sol/s and 3.2 sol/W @ 220W per card

It seems to me that these 1080ti's love core clock, and memory speed really doesn't make that much difference. I also found -300 mem was good Smiley
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Hi guys hoping to get some feedback on my room plan:



#1 is my current plan: pull cold air in from the window and push them over rigs with fans behind each rig, then pull hot air out from the front of the rigs and use an exhaust fan in the ceiling to collect hot air and exhaust it out of the roof.  This should be sufficient cooling for about the ~105 GPUs I can fit on that shelving unit

HOWEVER! I would like to leave open the possibility of expanding in the future without having to move the exhaust fan's ceiling location. So I was wondering if #2 would work if I double my size. As you can see I'd be using fans on the ground to push the incoming air up at all the rigs but I'm unsure if that 15 ft (4.5m) is too much distance to hope to carry the air.

Fwiw, I'm dealing with 75-85 Fahrenheit (24-29c) ambient temps

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Getting this as efficient as you can is HVAC math.  I'm good enough at HVAC to be dangerous, but I do my own work and haven't ever screwed anything up majorly.  Your most limiting factor is probably input and exhaust air volume of the room based on the opening sizes.  I'd calculate that first and then the fans you have pushing the air over the rigs may be an issue or a bonus, but if those are portable, easy to cope later.  You want input and exhaust as far away from each other in the room as possible.  Ideally you also input from near or in the floor and exhaust from the ceiling or very near as well.  Guessing is why most home cooling systems are inefficient, almost nobody nobody does the math, they just slam in a too big or too small system and cash the checks.

What type of fans are you going to use for input and exhaust?

My room is about 17x12 ft.

My window is 54x34 in and I was going to mount one of these 3150 cfm fans in the window (next to the screen) for pushing air in: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ventamatic-20-in-High-Velocity-Floor-Fan-HVFF-20UPS/202795625

And this 5000 cfm fan for air exhaust in the ceiling.: http://www.homedepot.com/p/iLIVING-5000-CFM-Power-30-in-Single-Speed-Shutter-Exhaust-Fan-ILG8SF30S/207174738

I just learned its supposed to be a 2 to 1 exhaust:intake ratio so maybe I should find a slightly less powerful fan for air intake?

The fans I am planning to use behind each rig is the 550 cfm version of this fan, easily portable so yeah I can cope with issues pretty easily: http://orionfans.com/products/dc-fans/item/od254.html

In the front of each rig I was going to put a line of 5 x 180 cfm fans where the GPUs end

I didn't know the exhaust should be far away from the intake as possible. I thought I could put the shelving unit right by the window (close to the cold air) and use tarps to control the hot air side and try to exhaust it immediately right there.

Appreciate any advice!



In a closed room, yes, you want BOTH those rules goin on if you can.  I think I'd put the heat generator right smack in the middle of thee room.

The home depot cheaper fan, spent that kinda money on fans and ran em 24x7 and dead in 2 years or less  That's why I turn my wife's off every morning. Ain't no wind tunnel.

Go stand in front of 3500 - 5000 cfm fans at home depot or lowes, get 'em to plug em in for ya.  I don't think you'll be real impressed.  Ain't no wind tunnel.  Could be enough but won't know without including size of openings and cfm in the calcs, and prolly also BTU or estimate, avg ambient air temp outside and inside with no heat and cool running at all, etc.  Attic fans are awesome IF you open every window in the house, yer air isn't dirty, and you have a high temperature differential inside versus in. Like 20-30 degrees. That one is not much more expensive than a good bathroom exhaust fan nowadays.  I think you are mostly paying for the metal there.

It could work but you don't wanna overspent or underspend to get the job done.

Most HVAC forums are filled with tradesman that don't really like to give DIY advice in varying degrees but since you aren't working on a furnace or an air conditioner at all they may point you right at the correct formulas if you include all the measurements mentioned in this thread.

legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
The Galax Katana 1070 has sold out.   I only have 1 and 1 on order.

It is what happens when you post a nice thread  some whale looks at the work  and buys out all the hardware fucked again.

I think I won't be posting for a few days.

Panda

Now this. Angry

Here's what you should do going forward Phil.

Get one, test it and see if you like it. If you do, go back and buy however many you think you want, THEN post the nice reviews online.

This way you'll have secured yours and let other people scoop up the remaining stock.

yeah  I should have also really looked better at the facebook message  back on May 1 or May 2.

ah  such is life.

back to the drawing board over here.... I think I will just go for a slightly chubby 1070 then - any recommendations?
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
Can someone recommended settings for 1080ti?

I have a 6x 1080ti rig, each running 60% power limit, +250 core, -500 mem (mem oc or underclock, no hash difference).
Getting only about 600 sols and 4sol/w. 900w at the wall for about 3600 sols. Voltage is unchanged.


It seems low compared to gtc 1070 which can do 450sol at 60% power limit. Should I undervolt?

wow.... 6 x 1080ti is an incredible$ rig

Post some pictures will ya?

I know;  after seeing the hashrates out of just 5x 1080's, I can only imagine how the ti feels when you get the pools payout 3 times a day... lol.

Thats a $6K rig .. hope the rig can touch at least 5000 sol/s  Shocked
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Can someone recommended settings for 1080ti?

I have a 6x 1080ti rig, each running 60% power limit, +250 core, -500 mem (mem oc or underclock, no hash difference).
Getting only about 600 sols and 4sol/w. 900w at the wall for about 3600 sols. Voltage is unchanged.


It seems low compared to gtc 1070 which can do 450sol at 60% power limit. Should I undervolt?

wow.... 6 x 1080ti is an incredible$ rig

Post some pictures will ya?

I know;  after seeing the hashrates out of just 5x 1080's, I can only imagine how the ti feels when you get the pools payout 3 times a day... lol.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
Can someone recommended settings for 1080ti?

I have a 6x 1080ti rig, each running 60% power limit, +250 core, -500 mem (mem oc or underclock, no hash difference).
Getting only about 600 sols and 4sol/w. 900w at the wall for about 3600 sols. Voltage is unchanged.


It seems low compared to gtc 1070 which can do 450sol at 60% power limit. Should I undervolt?

wow.... 6 x 1080ti is an incredible$ rig

Post some pictures will ya?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
The Galax Katana 1070 has sold out.   I only have 1 and 1 on order.

It is what happens when you post a nice thread  some whale looks at the work  and buys out all the hardware fucked again.

I think I won't be posting for a few days.

Panda

Now this. Angry

Here's what you should do going forward Phil.

Get one, test it and see if you like it. If you do, go back and buy however many you think you want, THEN post the nice reviews online.

This way you'll have secured yours and let other people scoop up the remaining stock.

yeah  I should have also really looked better at the facebook message  back on May 1 or May 2.

ah  such is life.

sr. member
Activity: 390
Merit: 250
What are fan speeds at? Those are really good temps

He said
Getting 442 sol with 54 degree without fan in warm room


i meant external fan.

GPU fan is 63%
Pages:
Jump to: