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Quote from: fullzero on May 07, 2017, 10:37:47 AM

$90 after rebate

Edit: supports 6x GPUs

MSI Z270-A PRO (in stock: 5 per customer at Newegg; also at Amazon)

I added a second nvOCv0014 image which fully supports this motherboard.

Example rig; 1.02 $/hash (hash in sol/s) or less: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18903759

Okay I have a lot of mobos

does your os support

biostar b150s1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138424R

biostar z170gt7
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421

gigabyte b250m-gaming 3

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145007

gigabyte aorus z270

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128966

gigabyte ga270-hd3
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128974

I have all of the above on hand

I have this mobo on the way
biostar tb85

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381737915980?

I want to test your os in any or all of the above.

Quote from: xleejohnx on May 07, 2017, 09:42:06 AM

Is this os completely sustainable on its own?
Like I mean burn plug and mine?
I don't need to mess with the interface once the USB is setup?

If you use one of the fully supported motherboards, currently:

ASRock H81 PRO BTC, BIOSTAR TB85, MSI Z270-A PRO (in stock)

then yes; it is essentially:

burn, configure oneBash (or replace the one on the usb with one you have already configured), plug and power on.

If you are using an untested motherboard; most likely all the cards will be recognized and mining will automatically start: however their may be slight differences which cause the xorg file to not properly enable OC on all the cards. This may be hard to notice without directly connecting a monitor and inspecting the mining process. If using an untested motherboard, you probably should connect a monitor and ensure everything is working as intended ~6 minutes after initial boot. If you have a motherboard which doesn't properly enable OC on all the cards; tell me. For any motherboard commonly used, I will get one myself and provide a fully supported image.

Phil,

the biostar tb85 will work for sure; use the ASRock H81 PRO BTC or BIOSTAR TB85 image

if any of these mobos don't OC a card let me know and I will get one myself and provide a fully supported image for it.

biostar b150s1 ( try the ASRock H81 PRO BTC or BIOSTAR TB85 image )

biostar z170gt7 ( try the ASRock H81 PRO BTC or BIOSTAR TB85 image )

gigabyte b250m-gaming 3 ( try the MSI Z270-A PRO image )

gigabyte aorus z270 ( try the MSI Z270-A PRO image )

gigabyte ga270-hd3 ( try the MSI Z270-A PRO image )

Edit: also v0014 is for USB keys only, it will NOT autoboot an SSD or HDD.

IMO USB keys are easier to build and deploy plus are (usually) significantly cheaper. If you use this one: https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-JumpDrive-16GB-Flash-Drive/dp/B00S5V5PMY it is also fast enough to even use the GUI with ease.

I now use the lexar usb keys on all my rigs and have a stack of unused SSDs and M2s waiting to be made into a burst or storj or sia rig.

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The existence of ETC is a major reason why ETH really can't go POS; not that I think it was likely in the first place.

This two statements are intriguing, especially connection between ETH not being able to go POS because of ETC staying POW.
Could you elaborate?

ETH going POS would be like Coke deciding they will no longer produce Coca-Cola Classic, but will only sell Coke zero.

In the future you will get 100:1 chance to get Coke Zero when buying Classic!
https://github.com/ethereum/research/wiki/Casper-Version-1-Implementation-Guide

Their bullshit has its own bullshit.

Called this over a year ago; took 6 months longer than I expected.

Quote from: fullzero on April 24, 2016, 03:56:12 PM

The closer you look at ETH; the more questions you will have.

The best thing ETH has going for it is that most people will never read the whitepaper or review any of the code.

I'm betting in 6 months there will be a nerf announcement; which drastically reduces what ETH will actually do.

So with POS essentially being out of the door, the question of Ice Age remains.
As I understand it, its main purpose is to prevent the necessity of another hard-fork.
But this article https://btcmanager.com/ethereum-ice-age-approaches-community-vote-on-mining-reward-cut/
states

Quote

The Ethereum ice age is a mining difficulty adjustment scheme that was created to incentivize miners to switch to the new PoS blockchain. Once the fork is executed, the mining difficulty rises exponentially to a point where it would be impossible for miners to keep up with the difficulty increase that would hike block time and make the blockchain effectively freeze.

So, with POS being postponed (indefinitely?), how will Ehereum deal with bloated blockchain now? Another hardfork is imminent. But it leads to the question of increased difficulty.
In context that is also relevant to our interests, there is also the issue of proposal to reduce the mining rewards in an effort to boost ETH prices.
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/186
But that proposal was written when ETH was worth less then a dollar.
With current high prices of ETH, the incentive to reduce the rewards diminishes.

So with all this in mind, I am totally confused still. So much smoke and mirrors.
POS coming and not coming at the same time, increased difficulty on current blockchain to force move to a new blockchain, reduced mining rewards, you name it, ETH has it all!
Please somebody tell me whether I am to go forth and build another (Vega?) rig.

I think gpu miners are a good investment. Crypto is on the cusp of going mainstream.

ETH is in the business of selling 'the idea of' a magical unicorn POS; which is supposedly everything Bitcoin is, but without anything inconvenient.

Bitcoin was well conceived to survive and work as it has. Anyone who doesn't see how the choices made in its design have most likely saved it from being destroyed multiple times over; and instead chooses to think of any inconvenience as a deficiency: can go join the ETH cult.

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Quote from: KaydenC on May 07, 2017, 02:31:18 AM

$90 after rebate

Edit: supports 6x GPUs

MSI Z270-A PRO (in stock: 5 per customer at Newegg; also at Amazon)

I added a second nvOCv0014 image which fully supports this motherboard.

Example rig; 1.02 $/hash (hash in sol/s) or less: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18903759

Okay I have a lot of mobos

does your os support

biostar b150s1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138424R

biostar z170gt7
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421

gigabyte b250m-gaming 3

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145007

gigabyte aorus z270

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128966

gigabyte ga270-hd3
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128974

I have all of the above on hand

I have this mobo on the way
biostar tb85

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381737915980?

I want to test your os in any or all of the above.

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Why not use the Pentium G4560, it is significantly cheaper, also 2C4T and only has 10% slower clock speeds compare to i3 7100.

I will get one and try it out. Thanks for the suggestion.

Quote from: Truthchanter on May 07, 2017, 06:22:34 AM

What do you cpu mine with that cpu and what hashrate do you get for it?

XMR, while also mining ZEC on 6x GPUs. Core i3 averages 70 H/s (~$5 a month) at current settings without interfering with the GPU mining. I am slowly walking up the intensity of +cpu mining, trying to find the highest settings which don't interfere with the GPUs.

Quote from: flminer on May 07, 2017, 09:26:33 AM

imho even us small miners would like an OS like smOS that would run both AMD and Nvidia that we can access from work, travel, etc. Thanks

Noted

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 07, 2017, 09:30:21 AM

well if it comes down to 2 os's 1 for nvidia and 1 for amd that would be good enough for me.

I am drifting into too many nvidia and not enough amd.

I need to stop buying the nvidia and wait to see if vega is a good card.

I think vega will be good for ZEC.

Quote from: xleejohnx on May 07, 2017, 09:39:06 AM

I agree with Phil
Having to run two os isn't a problem at all
I'm sure smos will have nvidia support sometime
But for now you have my support

Thanks

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Quote from: cashen on May 07, 2017, 09:45:58 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 07, 2017, 09:36:37 AM

you have an hp gpu am i correct?

if you do it is a custom bios and may not work like a standard 1080.

did you load msi afterburner and try to use that?

also zotac has a tweaker

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/zotac-firestorm-download.html

I would try msi afterburner 4.3

with

75% power
100+ core
300+ memory
75% manual fan

then try the same settings with zotac firestorm.

Thanks

Looks like I have 5 HP, 1 ASUS, 1 EVGA. They look the EXACT same.

I tried looking up supported clocks for each card and I got the same thing.

Okay then the hp bios could be in conflict with the evga program .

load msi afterburner 4.3 and try to set each gpu with

75% tdp
100+ core
300+ ram
75% manual fan.

this means you don't check the synch gpu on afterburner

you need to understand it may not be the hp gpu but you have 7 gpus that are mixed and this can cause a conflict in the software you are trying to use.

BTW trying to run 7 cards can be very hard.
trying to run 7 cards mixed can be impossible.

trouble shooting can be next to impossible

in fact you could have 1 riser that is weak and it causes the conflict.

5 hp
1 asus
1 evga

is complex.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 07, 2017, 09:36:37 AM

you have an hp gpu am i correct?

if you do it is a custom bios and may not work like a standard 1080.

did you load msi afterburner and try to use that?

also zotac has a tweaker

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/zotac-firestorm-download.html

I would try msi afterburner 4.3

with

75% power
100+ core
300+ memory
75% manual fan

then try the same settings with zotac firestorm.

Thanks

Looks like I have 5 HP, 1 ASUS, 1 EVGA. They look the EXACT same.

I tried looking up supported clocks for each card and I got the same thing.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 07, 2017, 09:30:21 AM

Quote from: flminer on May 07, 2017, 09:26:33 AM

Quote from: fullzero on May 06, 2017, 11:36:17 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

just wondering if your Linux OS is a good candidate to be integrated in Tytanick's smOS ?

I am testing your OS soon standalone - looking fwd to it

I don't want anyone to have to pay to use nvOC, now; or in the future. Running a website does have overhead costs, and requires maintenance; so I can understand why Tytanick is planning on eventually charging a small fee (especially with the number of smOS users; demanding resources from his server or instance).

I have already had members request farm management tools and local stats / web management. I will probably make an application users can run on a single computer on their lan to get stats / push updates from. Then maybe, I will make a website like smOS. I am guessing that most members who run a farm would be able to ssh / vnc / rdp ect... into a single rig running the stats/push application on their lan to remote monitor and push changes to rigs; so there isn't really a need for a website anyway: however maybe I am completely wrong with that assumption. You can probably give me solid feedback on that.

imho even us small miners would like an OS like smOS that would run both AMD and Nvidia that we can access from work, travel, etc. Thanks

well if it comes down to 2 os's 1 for nvidia and 1 for amd that would be good enough for me.

I am drifting into too many nvidia and not enough amd.

I need to stop buying the nvidia and wait to see if vega is a good card.

I agree with Phil
Having to run two os isn't a problem at all
I'm sure smos will have nvidia support sometime
But for now you have my support

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Quote from: cashen on May 07, 2017, 09:31:42 AM

I'm trying to force P0 and then use power limiting to manage power.

1. I can't see my supported clocks
2. Nvidia Inspector is not setting it correctly

you have an hp gpu am i correct?

if you do it is a custom bios and may not work like a standard 1080.

did you load msi afterburner and try to use that?

also zotac has a tweaker

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/zotac-firestorm-download.html

I would try msi afterburner 4.3

with

75% power
100+ core
300+ memory
75% manual fan

then try the same settings with zotac firestorm.

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I'm trying to force P0 and then use power limiting to manage power.

1. I can't see my supported clocks
2. Nvidia Inspector is not setting it correctly

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Quote from: flminer on May 07, 2017, 09:26:33 AM

Quote from: fullzero on May 06, 2017, 11:36:17 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

just wondering if your Linux OS is a good candidate to be integrated in Tytanick's smOS ?

I am testing your OS soon standalone - looking fwd to it

I don't want anyone to have to pay to use nvOC, now; or in the future. Running a website does have overhead costs, and requires maintenance; so I can understand why Tytanick is planning on eventually charging a small fee (especially with the number of smOS users; demanding resources from his server or instance).

I have already had members request farm management tools and local stats / web management. I will probably make an application users can run on a single computer on their lan to get stats / push updates from. Then maybe, I will make a website like smOS. I am guessing that most members who run a farm would be able to ssh / vnc / rdp ect... into a single rig running the stats/push application on their lan to remote monitor and push changes to rigs; so there isn't really a need for a website anyway: however maybe I am completely wrong with that assumption. You can probably give me solid feedback on that.

imho even us small miners would like an OS like smOS that would run both AMD and Nvidia that we can access from work, travel, etc. Thanks

well if it comes down to 2 os's 1 for nvidia and 1 for amd that would be good enough for me.

I am drifting into too many nvidia and not enough amd.

I need to stop buying the nvidia and wait to see if vega is a good card.

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Quote from: fullzero on May 06, 2017, 11:36:17 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

just wondering if your Linux OS is a good candidate to be integrated in Tytanick's smOS ?

I am testing your OS soon standalone - looking fwd to it

I don't want anyone to have to pay to use nvOC, now; or in the future. Running a website does have overhead costs, and requires maintenance; so I can understand why Tytanick is planning on eventually charging a small fee (especially with the number of smOS users; demanding resources from his server or instance).

I have already had members request farm management tools and local stats / web management. I will probably make an application users can run on a single computer on their lan to get stats / push updates from. Then maybe, I will make a website like smOS. I am guessing that most members who run a farm would be able to ssh / vnc / rdp ect... into a single rig running the stats/push application on their lan to remote monitor and push changes to rigs; so there isn't really a need for a website anyway: however maybe I am completely wrong with that assumption. You can probably give me solid feedback on that.

imho even us small miners would like an OS like smOS that would run both AMD and Nvidia that we can access from work, travel, etc. Thanks

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Quote from: KaydenC on May 07, 2017, 02:31:18 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 06, 2017, 11:54:59 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 06, 2017, 10:55:43 PM

$90 after rebate

MSI Z270-A PRO (in stock: 5 per customer at Newegg; also at Amazon)

I added a second nvOCv0014 image which fully supports this motherboard.

Example rig; 1.02 $/hash (hash in sol/s) or less: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18903759

I like that it is a new a z270. So what CPU did you use?

Core i3-7100

I'm sure you already noticed on the other thread. I really like this cpu, I usually go cheap with cpu's using G1840s or G4400s; glad I tried this one. 4x threads makes it alot better for +cpu mining; reasonably priced as well.

I have that CPU.

I just have been busy and not tried the new os.

Why not use the Pentium G4560, it is significantly cheaper, also 2C4T and only has 10% slower clock speeds compare to i3 7100.

Okay I do have a few pentium and they are next worthless for mining cpu.

I do have a lot of 6400t four core and when I am mining with gpus they are turned on and using power.

If I mine xmr with it only 3 threads the extra power is almost nothing at all. say a bump of 20 watts

20 watts = say ½ kwatt or at 10 cents a kwatt it is 5 cents a day more power. I have 2 6400t psu running xmr at the moment they spend 10 cents in power and earn 60 cents

a net of 50 cents

I have one running hodl it earns 16 cents and spends 5 cents a net of 11 cents

71 cents a day x 365 = 259 usd extra for 3 6400t cpus

You can find them on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-6400T-Quad-Core-2-20GHz-Skylake-CPU-8-00-GT-s-6MB-SR2L1-FCLGA1151-/332205631246?

I get 9 % off due to an ebucks promo so the 145 price drops to 132

the pentium 4560 is 62 after promo it is 57 so I paid 132-57 = 75 for 1

I have 3 so 3 x 75 = 225 and I earn 259 extra in a year a profit of 259-225= 34.

And the i5 6400t will hold value for ebay resale.

here is a new i3 7100t newegg on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Core-i3-7100T-Processor-LV-/292045109236?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 06, 2017, 10:55:43 PM

$90 after rebate

MSI Z270-A PRO (in stock: 5 per customer at Newegg; also at Amazon)

I added a second nvOCv0014 image which fully supports this motherboard.

Example rig; 1.02 $/hash (hash in sol/s) or less: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18903759

I like that it is a new a z270. So what CPU did you use?

Core i3-7100

I'm sure you already noticed on the other thread. I really like this cpu, I usually go cheap with cpu's using G1840s or G4400s; glad I tried this one. 4x threads makes it alot better for +cpu mining; reasonably priced as well.

Edit:

fully understand on your objectives for this OS.

Some form of dashboard will be useful for farm deployment (ie. 10 rigs and above)

Noted

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 06, 2017, 11:54:59 PM

I am looking forward to test your OS on my development machine soon.

Let me know if you have any issues. What kind of motherboard does your development machine have?

What do you cpu mine with that cpu and what hashrate do you get for it?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 06, 2017, 10:55:43 PM

Quote from: fullzero on May 06, 2017, 11:48:31 AM

$90 after rebate

MSI Z270-A PRO (in stock: 5 per customer at Newegg; also at Amazon)

I added a second nvOCv0014 image which fully supports this motherboard.

Example rig; 1.02 $/hash (hash in sol/s) or less: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18903759

I like that it is a new a z270. So what CPU did you use?

Core i3-7100

I'm sure you already noticed on the other thread. I really like this cpu, I usually go cheap with cpu's using G1840s or G4400s; glad I tried this one. 4x threads makes it alot better for +cpu mining; reasonably priced as well.

I have that CPU.

I just have been busy and not tried the new os.

Why not use the Pentium G4560, it is significantly cheaper, also 2C4T and only has 10% slower clock speeds compare to i3 7100.

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Quote from: kopija on May 05, 2017, 11:29:46 PM

Quote from: fullzero on May 04, 2017, 10:26:06 AM

Quote from: kopija on May 04, 2017, 08:01:24 AM

Quote from: fullzero

The existence of ETC is a major reason why ETH really can't go POS; not that I think it was likely in the first place.

This two statements are intriguing, especially connection between ETH not being able to go POS because of ETC staying POW.
Could you elaborate?

ETH going POS would be like Coke deciding they will no longer produce Coca-Cola Classic, but will only sell Coke zero.

In the future you will get 100:1 chance to get Coke Zero when buying Classic!
https://github.com/ethereum/research/wiki/Casper-Version-1-Implementation-Guide

Their bullshit has its own bullshit.

Called this over a year ago; took 6 months longer than I expected.

Quote from: fullzero on April 24, 2016, 03:56:12 PM

The closer you look at ETH; the more questions you will have.

The best thing ETH has going for it is that most people will never read the whitepaper or review any of the code.

I'm betting in 6 months there will be a nerf announcement; which drastically reduces what ETH will actually do.

So with POS essentially being out of the door, the question of Ice Age remains.
As I understand it, its main purpose is to prevent the necessity of another hard-fork.
But this article https://btcmanager.com/ethereum-ice-age-approaches-community-vote-on-mining-reward-cut/
states

Quote

The Ethereum ice age is a mining difficulty adjustment scheme that was created to incentivize miners to switch to the new PoS blockchain. Once the fork is executed, the mining difficulty rises exponentially to a point where it would be impossible for miners to keep up with the difficulty increase that would hike block time and make the blockchain effectively freeze.

So, with POS being postponed (indefinitely?), how will Ehereum deal with bloated blockchain now? Another hardfork is imminent. But it leads to the question of increased difficulty.
In context that is also relevant to our interests, there is also the issue of proposal to reduce the mining rewards in an effort to boost ETH prices.
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/186
But that proposal was written when ETH was worth less then a dollar.
With current high prices of ETH, the incentive to reduce the rewards diminishes.

So with all this in mind, I am totally confused still. So much smoke and mirrors.
POS coming and not coming at the same time, increased difficulty on current blockchain to force move to a new blockchain, reduced mining rewards, you name it, ETH has it all!
Please somebody tell me whether I am to go forth and build another (Vega?) rig.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 06, 2017, 10:55:43 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 06, 2017, 10:55:43 PM

$90 after rebate

MSI Z270-A PRO (in stock: 5 per customer at Newegg; also at Amazon)

I added a second nvOCv0014 image which fully supports this motherboard.

Example rig; 1.02 $/hash (hash in sol/s) or less: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18903759

I like that it is a new a z270. So what CPU did you use?

Core i3-7100

I'm sure you already noticed on the other thread. I really like this cpu, I usually go cheap with cpu's using G1840s or G4400s; glad I tried this one. 4x threads makes it alot better for +cpu mining; reasonably priced as well.

I have that CPU.

I just have been busy and not tried the new os.

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$90 after rebate

MSI Z270-A PRO (in stock: 5 per customer at Newegg; also at Amazon)

I added a second nvOCv0014 image which fully supports this motherboard.

Example rig; 1.02 $/hash (hash in sol/s) or less: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18903759

I like that it is a new a z270. So what CPU did you use?

Core i3-7100

I'm sure you already noticed on the other thread. I really like this cpu, I usually go cheap with cpu's using G1840s or G4400s; glad I tried this one. 4x threads makes it alot better for +cpu mining; reasonably priced as well.

Edit:

fully understand on your objectives for this OS.

Some form of dashboard will be useful for farm deployment (ie. 10 rigs and above)

Noted